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Confused about ROM install

Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.

Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.

I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.

First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?

Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00

kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.

Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.

missed upgrade

I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance

sailors_be said:
I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance
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To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292

More info required.
When having problems with Rom Upgrades you really need to provide as much information as possible about your situation.
Please state the following:
What Rom did you have prior to upgrading, include IPL/SPL numbers.
Do you know if your device is G3 or G4 flash chip?
Is your device CID Unlocked?
Have your read (thoroughly) the instructions provided for the Rom you attempted to upgrade?
My initial guess would be that the Rom you flashed doesn't include IPL/SPL (as Risidoro clearly states in the Original Post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700)
In this case, you need to flash one of the Operator provided AKU 2.x Roms to get your IPL/SPL up to 2.x BEFORE you flash Risidoro's Rom to your device.

Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.

I'm going to give you some general info but you will have to do your own leg work to put this together.
The Wizard Wiki will contain some of the information you need:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
Also see the stickied posts at the beginning of the Wizard upgrading forum.
I am assuming that your device is not properly CID Unlocked (although it may be doing it again will not harm your device).
First you will need to download an Operator Rom, I would suggest this one:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
as it is an official Qtek AKU 1.x Rom.
Second place your Device into Bootloader Mode (search on it) and run the update that you downloaded.
At this point you are pretty close to where you were when you started.
Now, CID Unlock your Phone! Use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
If you have followed the instructions and everything went okay then you can now flash any of the Roms you (except one that are marked as G4 only since you appear to have a G3 Device).

sailors_be said:
Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.
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Looks like you flashed a 2.xx rom with no bootloader into a 1.xx system.
First try a full 2.xx rom from a carrier (cingular 2.25 comes to mind) then reflash the rom you want. Be careful playing with the phone in the current state as the battery will drain and not re-charge. I had to have a friend charge my battery for me when I did this same thing.

many thanks
I followed the procedure you give and recuperated my phone.
Thanks a lot for the assistance.
Merry christmas and happy new year
Jean-Michel

CID Unlocking question...

Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus

As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard

I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?

Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck

Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.

Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?

radio rom problem

hi...
i am a little noob when it comes to rom upgrading. so, i apologise if this is a stupid question. i flashed my wizard with wizard love rom. the ipl and spl both show 1.01 and os 2.26.10.2..but, no gsm.also, my phone doesn't catch signals.now, if i need to flash a radio rom, which radio rom should i flash, and is there any risk of bricking my device ??
thanks..
puja

There's very little risk (I'm definitely not going to say there's none because you always take some risk when flashing) with flashing a radio ROM. I kind of curious though, most people only flash the wizard love ROM so they can CID unlock before going on to flashing other ROM's such as a WM6 version. Are you planning on keeping the wizard love ROM as your OS? Which radio ROM you decide to flash kind of depends on where are and what ROM you're using. 2.19.11 seems to be the most popular one to flash though. Check the wizard wiki if you need to download it.

Basically flasing Radio ROM will not brick the device, and it also does not require CID unlocking.
Beside 2.19.11, 2.47.11 and 2.69.11 Radio ROM are also popular.
If you have unlocked your device after downgrading IPL and SPL, just get a 3.08 IPL/SPL upgrade package and you will get all IPL/SPL/Radio ROM upgraded to the most current version.
p.s. You now have IPL/SPL 1.01 that is too old and should be upgraded (Instead you MUST upgrade to at least 2.xx if you plan to use WM6)

i was earlier having ipl n spl 2.xx..but i wanted to unlock my device.so, i downgraded to button's 1.05 rom..but i couldn't unlock it (See my post in the topic 'The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards'), after which i decided to simply flash the love rom...

What by mean of "couldn't unlock"?
What error is shown from lokiwiz/aWizard?
p.s. Unlocking require ActiveSync connection

edit. sorry

starkwong said:
What by mean of "couldn't unlock"?
What error is shown from lokiwiz/aWizard?
p.s. Unlocking require ActiveSync connection
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when i run 'lokiwiz.bat' as instructed, it says 'your phone is now unlocked', but my device doesn't reboot..u may read my post in ''The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards"..is there any way to check if my phone is unlocked or not ???

Search for and download wizard service tool. It has a button on it that you can press and it will tell you if you're unlocked or not.

I'll save you the searching since about 10 seconds after I wrote that last post I saw the wizard service tool thread. It's here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038

please help me

i tried to update my wm5 to wm6 rc1 to my wiza200 (t mobile)
i followed all instructions as in Rc1 thread but this is what happened
my phone unlocked
cid unlocked
i upgrade the IPL/SPL to 3.08 both
but when try to install wm6 rc1 or any other wm6 it still give me the erorr 302
i tried to downgrade to IPL/SPL 2.26 but i failed all the times
please help me i lost every thing
please hellllp me i want either to install the WM6 or go back to tmobile wm5
note the only os can be installed on is WM6 ANTC V2.0 but it shows wm5 on my ppc i really confused here please help
thanks in advance
blue

FIRST-- Please do not make repeated posts, you posted this same damned thread in the Wizard/Wizard section and again in the Wizard/Wizard upgrading section. It is New Years Eve, people are out partying rather than sitting on xda, if someone comes online and can answer they will.
SECONDLY-- the big font is rather annoying (see what I mean, by my post here)
Finally-- good luck. BTW, if you flash back to a stock rom then make sure you have followed all the unlocking steps EXACTLY, you should be able to flash any rom after the stock rom. And while I am not sure, but if you were able to flash a custom rom, then it is WM6, even if it reads WM5 somewhere.
PS- I believe error 302 has something to do with unlocking the phone...you may not be unlocked. You need to be CID unocked. Read the unlocking sticky carefully and after reflashing a stock rom, make certain you have cid unlocked your phone (as I stated above)...get into the bootloader mode and make sure you use a STOCK rom.

Your phone isn't completely unlocked, go to the unlocking sticky thread and read on how to unlock your phone there. Also, please don't make giant text sizes, that shows impatience and it's just plain rude.