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I posted this for the few people that were awaiting for the Herald kitchen.
So..i know that you must probably hate me till now, but sorry again i have to delay the porting of my Core Kitchen to the Herald.
It has come to my attention that there is still no way of flashing an Terra because there is no RUU and thus no means of flashing. I will see what i can do, meanwhile i got some work and i will leave for about 5 days.
If anybody has any ideas on how to help these people, please put it into action or give me a pm.
Cheers !
you can flash using Aserg's method which is what other cooker's have resorted to!
blackout203 said:
you can flash using Aserg's method which is what other cooker's have resorted to!
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From what i understood ...
Aserg's method only works from ActiveSync . So this means that if you cook a rom with my kitchen and make a mistake and the rom doesn't work then you have a brick. That's why i didn't focused my attention on this. I was waiting for a proper RUU so that people wouldn't brick they're devices.
Hope you understand.
Well hopefully they roll out that new RUU for WM6 before the months end. Would love to do some experimenting with it during my vacation next month.
anichillus said:
From what i understood ...
Aserg's method only works from ActiveSync . So this means that if you cook a rom with my kitchen and make a mistake and the rom doesn't work then you have a brick. That's why i didn't focused my attention on this. I was waiting for a proper RUU so that people wouldn't brick they're devices.
Hope you understand.
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Yes that´s true. And nothing to say sorry - you had enough trouble with your PC.
But this is what I got as away for falshing from bootloader.
The problem is that the singing of the nbh file doesn´t worfk correctly - i guess.
I've been using his tool from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311909
He doesn't really show a method, so what I've been doing is:
1. Using NBHExtract to dump an .nbh that's on the Herald Wiki.
2. I rebuild the .nbh using Dark Simpson's little utility using the information I had luckily written down before I bricked the phone. So I plug in my ROM (4.10.531.3) in the Version, HERA110 in Device ID. The only other thing is that I'm not sure about the CID.
3. Place the new .nbh file in a folder with an updater (the ROM Update Utility that comes with the ROMs from the Herald Wiki).
4. Get the phone into Bootloader mode, start the updater.
In this way I've got rid of the Invalid Device ID error (error 243 or something?) and now it goes to 3% and tells me that the image file is corrupt.
I'm very new at this so maybe you can see a flaw in what I'm doing, or maybe with your knowledge we can figure this out. I was *almost* to the point of trying to cook using a couple links you've posted (XIP, dumps, etc) and then put it all together in a signed .nbh, but Rapidshare was holding me back... making me wait 80 minutes between downloads -_-
Anyway... I've only been trying to update the OS.nb portion since I believe I only screwed up my OS, not anything else. I can still get into the bootloader, my IPL/SPL still reads 4.xxxxxx, and by "brick" I mean that the phone just hangs on bootup at the T-Mobile splash screen. Correct? Incorrect?
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Perhaps we can work with it.
It is not a huge problem for HTC branded devices as there is a RUU to flash with if everything goes wrong. It's just a problem for our T-Mobile Wing and O2 Terra cousins (if they brick their devices). But it's nice to see some proper chefs taking an interest, never liked the pdaviet ROMS ever since they used a whole bunch of Faria's stuff without asking.
im running pdaviet now, but im hoping to see something other soon, its not bad though, just a bit slow..lots of "lagging" on the today plugin, I used the herald dump from tupisdin earlier, and installed my fav progs on that...was pretty dam fast on my phone...only problem was that it occupied more space on the main memory when stuff was not cooked into the rom itself...
trying to learn about cooking myself, not so easy as a thought
But I guess im lucky to have a unbranded htc p4350, If i brick, I just install the official Ruu from HTC
(btw, I DO use Vista for flashing, just changed the usb driver that WMDC uses to connect via USB to the old activesync 4.5 USB driver...)
can anyone explain which one is the best one for 8125 g4 locked
and how im am to go about it thanks alot sorry for the noob question
Just depends on your operator, so you need to try yourself and find out which is the best one.
i have at&t and running on wm 5
Basically, like starkwong said, it's pretty much trial and error. You have to try out all of the different Radio ROMs to find out which one works best for you in your area. Nobody here can really tell you for sure which one will work the best for you, unless maybe they live just down the street from you or something.
i know that im just asking is it safe and not brick my phone because its not unlocked in anyway
Normally Radio ROM can be updated directly with the Update Software (RUU) regardless unlock state of CID.
OH NO!
I have a Cingular 8125 G3 unlocked and have TNT's Touchflo rom on it. I tried updating my radio using Faria's 2.69.11 updater, but now my phone won't work, usb won't work, and when I reboot, it reads the IPL/SPL is still 1.xx and the OS is 6.00.0.0 but there is NO GSM line at all! Seeing how I can't the usb to work, I can't flash it with the T-Mobile rom or anything, however I can transfer things onto the phone via IR. So is there something out there I can use to fix at least the usb so I can reflash my phone. Thanks in advance!
Got it!
Nevermind, I got it working. I was able to transfer the bootloader.exe file over to my phone, ran it, and then was able to reflash my phone. Whew, I was so scared. Anyhow, thanks for all the info on this page, I love this site!
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
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I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
I'm new to all of this, so please bear with me.
I know that the device is G4. I've already played around with flashing to where I've only flashed once and flashed using the Faria G4 step by step...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298967
I'd like to try a different ROM, but different things I've read have mentioned flashing back to the original ROM and starting over. However, I don't have the T-Mobile ROM. In the end, I would be using the device on ATT's network. I didn't know if I could "start from scratch" by using the ATT rom (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe).
I pretty much want to blow away the T-Mobile stuff as I'll never use them.
I'm doing all of this because "something's wrong". It seems that any use of the wi-fi and using IE kills the battery. If I set the power management to anything other than "best performance" I cannot surf the net as everything "times out" and pages don't load.
The reason I started all of this is because I needed the newer version of WM so I could connect to an AP using WPA with AES. The WM5 that was on the MDA didn't have AES.
Any ideas/thoughts/help?
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I'm new to all of this, so please bear with me.
I know that the device is G4. I've already played around with flashing to where I've only flashed once and flashed using the Faria G4 step by step...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298967
I'd like to try a different ROM, but different things I've read have mentioned flashing back to the original ROM and starting over. However, I don't have the T-Mobile ROM. In the end, I would be using the device on ATT's network. I didn't know if I could "start from scratch" by using the ATT rom (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe).
I pretty much want to blow away the T-Mobile stuff as I'll never use them.
I'm doing all of this because "something's wrong". It seems that any use of the wi-fi and using IE kills the battery. If I set the power management to anything other than "best performance" I cannot surf the net as everything "times out" and pages don't load.
The reason I started all of this is because I needed the newer version of WM so I could connect to an AP using WPA with AES. The WM5 that was on the MDA didn't have AES.
Any ideas/thoughts/help?
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I never flash to an original ROM when trying new ones. I don't believe in the myth that an official ROM provides a strong base for upgrading. It's all a matter of deleting bytes and writing new ones so why bother?
If you don't want operator customizations then just do a hard-reset (loosing all user data) and soft-reset before the customization process. But i strongly advise to try new 6.1 ROMs out there that you'll have a great system to work with (don't forget to use an overcloking/CPU sacling app to get speed)
cheers
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I never flash to an original ROM when trying new ones. I don't believe in the myth that an official ROM provides a strong base for upgrading. It's all a matter of deleting bytes and writing new ones so why bother?
If you don't want operator customizations then just do a hard-reset (loosing all user data) and soft-reset before the customization process. But i strongly advise to try new 6.1 ROMs out there that you'll have a great system to work with (don't forget to use an overcloking/CPU sacling app to get speed)
cheers
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YUP! Very well said m8 excellent tip and info,cudn't agree more myself.I have never reflashed to any stock rom before any upgrade and never had any problems.
I'll just add here,as you have a G4 device,don't use 'Shell Tool',just 'HardSPL' it and you'll never feel the need to reflash any official stock rom to have a solid base.
Cheers!
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I'll just add here,as you have a G4 device,don't use 'Shell Tool',just 'HardSPL' it and you'll never feel the need to reflash any official stock rom to have a solid base.
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That's one other thing I wanted to check. The instructions I've read on this site explain pretty well the step by step of going from the original ROM to a new ROM. I followed the "Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies" on the wiki and then used the files from the Faria how-to. Once I've did the HardSPL install steps, is it always there? Or was it overwritten by the new ROM?
I guess I'm wondering what step I would start at for a new ROM...would I just repeat all the steps?
Also, I guess I'll always have to do the soft reset to stop the T-Mobile stuff from loading? If anything, I'd rather have the ATT stuff as I'd use their network and not T-Mobile or just have nothing.
The last thing I don't want is a brick.
Thanks for all the help! This is quite the learning experience and after my first flash I totally "geeked out".
Also, I've notice that it seems some of the ROMs are unclear as to if they are G4 or not. Unless I missed it, is there, by chance, a running list of all the ROMs? Or is it just a matter of reading all the pages of the forum? It'd be handy if there was a list of all the ROMs and if they were G4 or not.
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That's one other thing I wanted to check. The instructions I've read on this site explain pretty well the step by step of going from the original ROM to a new ROM. I followed the "Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies" on the wiki and then used the files from the Faria how-to. Once I've did the HardSPL install steps, is it always there? Or was it overwritten by the new ROM?
I guess I'm wondering what step I would start at for a new ROM...would I just repeat all the steps?
Also, I guess I'll always have to do the soft reset to stop the T-Mobile stuff from loading? If anything, I'd rather have the ATT stuff as I'd use their network and not T-Mobile or just have nothing.
The last thing I don't want is a brick.
Thanks for all the help! This is quite the learning experience and after my first flash I totally "geeked out".
Also, I've notice that it seems some of the ROMs are unclear as to if they are G4 or not. Unless I missed it, is there, by chance, a running list of all the ROMs? Or is it just a matter of reading all the pages of the forum? It'd be handy if there was a list of all the ROMs and if they were G4 or not.
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Well,once 'HardSPL' applied will remain 'HardSPL' unless you remove it personally to revert back to official stock wm5 rom .Remember,there's no official wm6 upgrade offered by either T-mobile or At&tt,all the wm6 roms available here in this forum are custom build wm6 roms and they don't have any T-mobile or At&tt stuff included in them.
All the wm6 custom build roms are safe for G4 devices as they don't have any IPL/SPL included in them.Only roms with IPL/SPL in it are not safe for flashing to a G4 phone.Even after the 'HardSPL',the official stock rom cannot be flashed,until and unless,first 'HardSPL' is to be removed and official G4 IPL/SPL are flashed back.
Cheers!
Ok, now I understand!
Thanks!
I'm having a lot of fun with this.
Hey there,
since I'm new to the community I hope I'm not doing it wrong
I will receive my new Herald within the next days and now I'm seeking for all the stuff I will need then.
1. Hard-Spl. I don't get it. What is it? Is it some kind of firmware update or whatever? The ROM's thread says that I would need SPL 4 or later to successfully finish the Update but I can't find that SPL application in version 4+ :/
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437385 - http://www.evolvers.net/Herald_Roms/Version 7.7/ => I'd like to use that ROM. But I'm not too sure whether to use Manilla2D or Omnia.
3. What if I needed to send my device back for warranty reasons. Is there some way to flash back the standard Win Mobile 5.0?
I hope I will get your attention!
Regards,
Chris
Hey there,
A friend of mine just told me about flashing ROMs literally a few days ago. I did my first successful flash just yesterday and I am very happy that I did. FYI, yes I am using a stock TMobile Wing from 2007.
Rom's are not interchangeable across different phone models as far as I know. So you need to get ROMs made for the wing a.k.a. the Herald. Any Rom for the Herald should work.
Just remember one thing that I forgot to do, make sure that you back up your data. I forgot to do this and lost all of my data. Luckily, I did not have any pictures or music that I was too sad to lose. However, I did lose my contacts. Again luckily, I had an old Sim card from last year that had my contacts on it, so I was able to get back 90% of my phonebook, except for a few people that changed numbers or new contacts. So be sure to save anything you want to keep somewhere else.
I am pretty technically savvy, but I must say that flashing the Rom did take me several hours. The process itself only takes about 10 minutes, but it took hours to figure out what type of Rom I needed and how to exactly flash it. You will see many people trying to tell you that you need to know your IPL and SPL version, and there is no way to know this until you start flashing! It wasn't until I did my first accidental flash that it showed me this information, and this ended up being my first successful flash. After trying for several hours the night before and not succeeding, I guess that's why it slipped my mind that flashing successfully would erase all my data.
The one that actually worked for me was the Canonyang Rom. In the link below please look at post number 216, and you will see a link to download the ROM that worked for me. The file is "HardSpl_WM6".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&page=22
I tried to flash directly to open touch, and no matter what I tried it was not successful. When I accidentally tried this Canonyang flash it worked successfully the first time, and after that now I was able to flash to any other Rom.
I am currently running open touch light version 6.5 because I read in another thread that it's supposed to be the fastest. I don't need a lot of features so I'm happy with what it has, and it is much, much faster than the stock T-Mobile Rom.
Since you are now getting it, yes, warranty is an issue for you. I am very new to all this, but from what I gather, once you flash, it does void the warranty. Perhaps someone else can answer if there is a stock TMobile rom, that you can flash back to. However, since the roms are digitally signed, I'm not sure that by even doing that, if TMobile can tell you modded it, and therefore elect not to honor your warranty. I guess that's a risk you have to decide if it's worth it or not. IMHO, I found out about rom flashing this week, and my warranty was up last month. However, if I had found out about this during my warranty period, I would have still done it. The Tmobile stock rom is sooo slow, compared to these roms. If you've never used these roms, you'd think like hey, it's got some bugs, but it's not that bad. But if you've used them, you're never going back to stock rom again.
I apologize if there are any typos, as I am using voice to text recognition software that I am testing. I thought I'd help you out by writing this as well as I test it. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions, we're all here to help.
Hey,
thanks for all the information. Was very helpful. I decided to you the ROM from that link. Should work, shouldn't it?
The only thing I don't get is how to get to SPL4+ :/ I heared of different methods of SPLing. Like Hard SPL and USPL. Can you bring light into that cave?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Your link goes to the Open Touch thread. The link I'm referring to, is this one:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
As I said, I was NOT able to flash directly from stock to OTP. I tried many methods, and Canonyang was the only one that worked for me. After I successfully flashed to CY, then I was able to flash to OTP without issue. But in theory yes, any Herald rom's should work fine.
In regards to IPL/SPL, my wing is from September 2007, and I had IPL/SPL both above 4. I had NO WAY to verify this before flashing. When I initiated the flash for CY, and the wing rebooted, it was THEN I saw my IPL/SPL versions. I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
Actually as I write this to you, I remember a critical step I forgot to tell you. You need to Application Unlock your device as well. This is probably what I was missing in my failed attempts. After I did that, then the CY flash worked. I got that information, from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356295
So I would suggest following the steps there first, then trying the link earlier to flash to CY, then flash to anything else. This is the procedure that worked for me. Good luck!
Hey there and thanks again for that bunch of information
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I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
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What does that mean then? I do not have to HardSPL my phone? But still, would you mind telling my step by step (And I really mean step by step^^) how to HardSPL a device? I really do not want to brick my phone directly at the beginning.
Oh and what should I rather be using, SoftSPL or HardSPL?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Sorry but I just flashed my device less than a week ago as I mentioned. I don't have many of the answers you ask, because I'm asking them myself. I don't know the diff between Hard vs. Soft SPL.
The file I linked you to earlier, is a hardspl, as denoted by its filename "HardSpl_WM6". It hardspl flashes to the canonyang rom. It was then I saw the IPL/SPL versions, and then was able to flash to other roms.
FYI, I was concerned about bricking my device as well. But during the roughly 5 hours I was trying to flash it correctly, every time the flash failed, it did NOT brick. It just errored on the pc, and the Wing itself just restarted and went back to the stock TMobile rom. It never actually bricked. Make sure you do the application unlock though; I think that's a step that people may not do and could cause it to brick. Good luck.