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I just thought it would be fun to see why people would want to buy a Kaiser/8925. As for myself, the one feature that I really care for is the built-in GPS. I have long been waiting to buy a GPS and this one-device-features-it-all looks very tempting; however, I am still not sure how good this Qualcomm GPS is compared to SiRFstar III types. I guess I will wait to hear from others before I buy this device. What is your reason?
I am not sure why everyone has thier panties in a knot over the qualcom GPS chips running Nimea. I run Nimea on my old Ipaq with a gps sleeve and it works fine. I always seem to get where I am going and back. I get on average 12 sats somtimes more, somtimes less so that is not a concern for me.
I could understand that sensitivity may be a concern, needing to be within a square foot, if you are say trying to guide a missle to a building that is sandwiched between a school and a daycare but for the average guy driving around it should not be a problem or a concern. Anways if you have missles, you probably also have way more soffisticated GPS needs than someone with one built into a phone.
Just my 2 cents.
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I am not sure why everyone has thier panties in a knot over the qualcom GPS chips running Nimea. I run Nimea on my old Ipaq with a gps sleeve and it works fine. I always seem to get where I am going and back. I get on average 12 sats somtimes more, somtimes less so that is not a concern for me.
I could understand that sensitivity may be a concern, needing to be within a square foot, if you are say trying to guide a missle to a building that is sandwiched between a school and a daycare but for the average guy driving around it should not be a problem or a concern. Anways if you have missles, you probably also have way more soffisticated GPS needs than someone with one built into a phone.
Just my 2 cents.
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Well, the thing is, I have never owned a GPS device and from what I have read so far people seem to like SiRFstar III more because it's more accurate (opinions). My statement was solely based on others' opinions.
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the one feature that I really care for is the built-in GPS.
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I like the idea of the builtin GPS but I'm not sure I'll use it. A few iterations back I had an iPaq with a CF GPS and I found the separate bluetooth unit MUCH more convenient. Some of that was form-factor, but a lot of it was being able to have the GPS out on the dash of the car right by the windshield for best signal and to have the display/input right in my hand. With some rental cars, particularly in bad weather the GPS would lose lock when held under the roof in a "normal" PDA-holding position.
Now the SiRFStarIII and later GPS chips are MUCH more sensitive, so maybe it won't matter.... Regardless, if I can get a Kaiser (for the 128MB RAM thank you!!!) I won't give up my BT GPS right away.
you should have included its 3mp camera!
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you should have included its 3mp camera!
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Completely forgot about that!
First Handset/pda in the world with HSUPA 2MB uplink speed( available in few months in the US)
Been on the 8125 long enough. Really looking forward to the CPU, ram, camera upgrades as well as the jump to 3G. I skipped the 8525, so it's about the right time. Can't wait!
GPS + Keyboard + it's smaller than my XDA Exec. Plus it's got double the RAM/ROM that the Exec has.
And my contract is up in just over a month.
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Been on the 8125 long enough. Really looking forward to the CPU, ram, camera upgrades as well as the jump to 3G. I skipped the 8525, so it's about the right time. Can't wait!
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Ditto. Every point. Plus I've dropped my 8125 so many times it looks beat up.
its all about the ram and rom... i just want quicker response
This will be my first PDA phone. I quite like the features this phone has plus the qwerty keypad and the GPS is a clincher
cheers
I have been limping along with the Wizard for about a year and a half now... not too happy about it. Usually my phone tenure is some 6-8 months and I am way long overdue for an upgrade.
During this year and a half I have used the BB 8700 and a SE w810 along with my Wizard but once I left those jobs the phones went with them.
Also, I think the tilt screen is real cool...
If you're worried about the GPS, go ask in the Trinity forums. It uses the same GPS chip.
i like the new functions of this phone, it's a very good upgrade for my MDA Vario 1 (qtek 9100).
i like the tilt-screen-function very much, the faster CPU is a must, and i just love the higher amount of memory!
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First Handset/pda in the world with HSUPA 2MB uplink speed( available in few months in the US)
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it will NOT have HSUPA
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it will NOT have HSUPA
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I thought it did... where did you find out it doesn't?
@iservealot: this comes straight fromt he horse's mouth, i.e., the ppl who gave the phone its heart....
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@iservealot: this comes straight fromt he horse's mouth, i.e., the ppl who gave the phone its heart....
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i heard ( think on BG.. maybe somewhere else) that it wont have it right now, but the supporting hardware is there so it could possible be released with an UKU type update... or if nothing else be unlocked by one of the briliant people on this site.. just what i had heard ... though i hope its true, because i had seen rumors of it haveing thise in several places
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i heard ( think on BG.. maybe somewhere else) that it wont have it right now, but the supporting hardware is there so it could possible be released with an UKU type update... or if nothing else be unlocked by one of the briliant people on this site.. just what i had heard ... though i hope its true, because i had seen rumors of it haveing thise in several places
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Sorry to dash ur hopes, but that will not be possible cuz enabling it will not be in the purview of "windows mobile"...IF possible, it would require hardware hacks as well radio rom hacking...
This new Pharos Traveler 137 has impressive specs, looks, gps, unbranded, unlocked, 3.5 screen, and best of all 3G for usa T-Mobile & AT&T(1900) users! It's scheduled to be out end of 1st quarter 2009. Here's more info...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1563...ne_offers_navigation_no_network_required.html
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/01/pharos-introduces-first-unlocked-t-mobile-3g-phone/
SPECS:
Operating system: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional (upgradable to WM6.5)
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Memory: 256MB DDR SDRAM, 512MB Flash ROM
Display: 3.5" TFT LCD Resistive
Resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA with 65K colors
Accelerometer
Phone: Unlocked with one SIM card slot
GSM Quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
EDGE / GPRS Class 12
Tri-band AWS 1700/1900/2100 MHz
UMTS 384Kb/s, HSDPA 7.2Mb/s, HSUPA 2Mb/s
Talk time: up to 4 hours ; 200 hours of standby
GPS: NMEA0183/AGPS compatible
Cold start <90 seconds (open sky, typical)
Warm Start <40 seconds (open sky, typical)
Hot start <1 second (open sky, typical)
Digital camera/camcorder: CMOS, 3.0 mega pixels, fix focus
Up to 2048X1536 resolution
0.3 mega pixels front camera for video conference
Antenna: Embedded (2G/3G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, FM)
Expansion: Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth® v2.0 + EDR
USB 2.0 High Speed
Micro SD slot support SDHC
Stereo audio jack through 11pin mini USB
Battery: 1380 mAh Li-Ion, rechargeable/replaceable
Device Dimension: 4.60in (L) x 2.40in (W) x 0.51in (H)
Device Weight: 4.94oz
gps services on a pay per day basis??!!?? euhm synonims like "prison sex" come to mind (something to do with ass and rape )
I WOULD NEVER get a gps phone that takes its gps service hostage against me the owner!!
Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.
Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?
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Processor: Qualcomm MSM7201A, 528MHz
Must be very Cool then,.
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I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.
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I'd rather have a Marvell Processor myself.
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or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/
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or this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. At least the 624mhz one thats in the Omnia would be nice.
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Does anyone know if the screen is resistive? Or capacitive?
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It's a resistive screen.
I've been looking at this phone for a while, and now that it's out, I'm having a heck of a time finding someone who sells it that has it in stock ( tried the websites suggested here on their website). I did find it for $517, out of stock, on provantage.com but it doesn't seem like this phone is very accessible
I have no reason to be a skeptic as to this phone's ability to get Tmo's 3g. The specifications show that it has the 1700/2100 bands required for the service, but I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to try it out yet and what kind of dl speeds they are getting ( oh, and where you managed to buy one from)
FYI...it has not been released yet. The Pharos forum tech said on 03-31-09:
"The Traveler 137 is due to be released into the market in a couple of months. Unfortunately, we do not have the exact release date at this time. Thank you, Natalie"
Hopefully, they are trying to get WM6.5 on this bad boy for a June release...
when it comes to hardware, i will always check the cpu used
qualcomm = slow, very preformance lag & flickering
Nice shame no physical keyboard and no HTC build...
Agree that HTC & XDA support is important...
Also, it has the same qualcom chip and I wish it had the snapdragon!
FYI...PocketPC Thoughts announced the unlocked Pharos 137 (dual USA 3G & upgradable to WM6.5) finally goes on sale tomorrow at Amazon, Expance, Newegg, etc...
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/mob...ilable-upgradeable-to-windows-mobile-6-5.html
what kind of freaking joke is this??
cant find the phone on amazon, dell, or newegg!
or any places that have the phone "available"!
^looks like Pharos Support replied to U on the their forum: that it would be delayed (again) for 1 week
they better not have anymore delays! i just hate waiting!
otherwise i'm going to get acer f900.
acer f900 uses samsung 533mzh cpu, is that better than qualcom 528mzh?
but f900 only has 256rom/128ram, but i think that is enough?
Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone know of any active ROM development for these phones? I would love for someone to cook up a custom build for this phone. Thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately, I have not seen any development (yet) for the PT137. It would be on the Pharos forum if there's going to be any cooking...
Note this just went on sale, so not too many have it...
i also have a PT137 and would love to see some rom development but i don't think it's going to happen here at xda. the pharos section in this forum is for the device htc made for them and i don't think htc is making the phones for pharos any more.
i will keep my fingers crossed and hope.
Hi all,
I love all 3 phones and I want to buy the best on GPS application, because I'll use it so much.
I saw on the web these information :
Diamon II use chipset GPS Sirf III
HTC HD and Touch Pro 2 use Qualcomm gpsOne
Does it true ?
Thanks in advance ,
Giap
I think there is no difference in their performance. It's just a matter of screen size which the HD wins.
really ?
I think that GPS Sirf III is better than Qualcomm gpsOne ?
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really ?
I think that GPS Sirf III is better than Qualcomm gpsOne ?
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In my experience Sirf III is WAY better than the Qualcomm junk.
I do however not believe that the TD2 does have that. I think it is also Qualcomm.
Robin
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I think there is no difference in their performance. It's just a matter of screen size which the HD wins.
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I used T2 HD, and I also have Nokia ld-4W which is sirf III. According to my experence, I think T2 has the best performace. HD is not so good. Nokia is lucky come to the second.
I have owned nokia for over half a year, and I used it once over 1500km for going home. I should say, the bettery is good.
For HD, I used it went the same way back with nokia. It is generally not better than nokia. In finding satellite, it is a little bit slower than nokia.
For T2, it is the best. It can find the satellite within couple of seconds, even I have windows film in front in my car.
BTW, all of the above is based on same navigation software and from every south part of China to middle of China, like Shanghai nevigation.
I failed to get a lock with my GPS in Shinjuku though but in places like Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima etc it worked perfectly. I guess Tokyo is just too built up for it to work unless there's a setting I should have adjusted?
GPS Sirf III
After reading and seaching the net, there is notting to tell that the Diamond 2
runs with a chipset GPS Sirf III
Can somebody verify this please.
It is not Sirf III.
All of HTC's phones with the Qualcomm processor that have GPS in them utilize Qualcomm's gpsOne because it is actually part of the processor, hence cheaper. It makes no sence to add a different seperate GPS chip when the main chip can supports it.
ah OK,
so three phones have the same performance in GPS.
thanks man
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I used T2 HD, and I also have Nokia ld-4W which is sirf III. According to my experence, I think T2 has the best performace. HD is not so good. Nokia is lucky come to the second.
I have owned nokia for over half a year, and I used it once over 1500km for going home. I should say, the bettery is good.
For HD, I used it went the same way back with nokia. It is generally not better than nokia. In finding satellite, it is a little bit slower than nokia.
For T2, it is the best. It can find the satellite within couple of seconds, even I have windows film in front in my car.
BTW, all of the above is based on same navigation software and from every south part of China to middle of China, like Shanghai nevigation.
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OK, I'll buy Diamond Touch 2. By the way, if I found a cheap Touch Pro 2, it will great.
For me it is 16.4 feet (5 meters). No matter what rom i try, it has never gone lower than that. Has anyone got a more accurate reading before? mine jumps between 16.4ft and 32.8, and sometimes 49.2 ft.
I am currently on Bell's newest jl2, and last night was hovering at 9/10 locks to 11/11 locks with 16.4 ft accuracy and sometimes 32.8 ft. Is it even possible to get better than 16.4 ft?
I heard somewhere that the U.S. Government does not want people to have GPS that is any more accurate than what you have (Security reasons). If this is true or not I do not know.
Ian
Mine also shows 5 meter as best 'accuracy'. Mind you it is not the accuracy, but it is better to interpret it as a 'probable error'. Thus your position may very well be outside the 'accuracy circle' - and it is a guess, which may not be comparable to other phones.
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Mine also shows 5 meter as best 'accuracy'. Mind you it is not the accuracy, but it is better to interpret it as a 'probable error'. Thus your position may very well be outside the 'accuracy circle' - and it is a guess, which may not be comparable to other phones.
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You can get a 5m accuracy and still be 500m off if you happen to have a Galaxy S.
It has to be something to do with the firmware. Why are all of the readings perfectly divisible by 16.4 feet? I only see this with the Galaxy S phones too. As far as the guess about government restricting accuracy, my friend's htc incredible bounces between 3 and 6 feet, and this lucky SOB gets down to 1 foot towards the end of the video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5scZhN8i0I&feature=player_embedded
Yes, I can't get any better than 5meter as well.
Now, when I use my handheld mapping Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx GPS, as long as I have a clear view of the sky it'll be accurate to 3 meters, sometimes up to 2 meter accuracy.
Well, I would bet some $ that the HTC is "faking" the accuracy (happy meter). The GPS on any phone has a very hard time getting a reading with an accuracy better than 5 meters independent of the GPS hardware. The accuracy is a statistical figure which will give you the probability (95%) of you being with in the that distance from your true location (so 1 in 20 readings could be 100 miles away in a one foot accuracy even if it is not likely).
The hardware, even if the phone could get a perfect reception and calculation, is not the main problem, for a one or even 10 footer. The problem in these scenarios is the space weather, accuracy of satellites etc. Ordinary earthly weather do not affect the GPS so much as some seems to believe. Anyway, 1 feet is hard to get even with a professional DGPS (differential GPS) and impossible with a GPS in a phone.
I get 5m and sometimes without any reason it jumps to 10m.
Every other smartphone(cheap or not) i used gets accuracy under 3m and most of the time 1m !! I am wondering , what the hell did samsung with the gps chip... I didn't believe that the gps was that bad until i saw other phones...
The main problem with being capped at 5 meters is that in residential areas where streets may be tighter any GPS app will bounce you around like crazy. Basically Google Maps uses the accuracy of 5 meters which is a radius meaning the circle in which Google Maps will think you're in could really be 10 meters wide. Since 10 meters can be on multiple streets at once in Google Maps, it will start bouncing you around.... And heaven help you if you have an accuracy higher than 10 meters, you might as well guess where you are.
Whether other GPS phones are "faking" their accuracy or not (and I don't think they really are), Samsung has CLEARLY developed their GPS firmware to only be accurate in intervals of 5 meters which makes NO sense at all because a phone can easily get more accurate than 5 meters of accuracy seeing as I've never had this problem of bouncing around navigation maps on much MUCH crappier phones than the Galaxy S...
Google accuracy + GPS and you will understand why you do not get under 5 meters. It is near impossible to get lower readings. The phones that get 1 feet are miracles. A dedicated GPS with good antenna sometimes get 3 meters.
Look at this page in german http://www.kowoma.de/gps/gpsmonitor/gpsmonitor.php. Translate it to english and you will be enlighten. He uses a dedicated Garmin antenna on the roof to mesure the error. With 95% he get around 4 meters 2010, with 50% he get 2 meters. You have to scroll to the bottom to get the figures from the archive.
Well you may argue that it is an old GPS but the technology has not been going towards more precision but to smaller and less battery draining components so the accuracy will be roughly the same. It is way better that you try to enlighten yourself about the GPS then nag on SGS so we can skip the rather uneducated guesses. I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.
I regularly get 5m which is approx 15ft.
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I regularly get 5m which is approx 15ft.
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Thanks for the info Nirvana. If I had that accuracy constantly I'm sure I'd get more accurate navigation. How does your phone handle Google Maps Navigation? Does your location jump around or does it uneccessarily reroute?
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Google accuracy + GPS and you will understand why you do not get under 5 meters. It is near impossible to get lower readings. The phones that get 1 feet are miracles. A dedicated GPS with good antenna sometimes get 3 meters.
Look at this page in german http://www.kowoma.de/gps/gpsmonitor/gpsmonitor.php. Translate it to english and you will be enlighten. He uses a dedicated Garmin antenna on the roof to mesure the error. With 95% he get around 4 meters 2010, with 50% he get 2 meters. You have to scroll to the bottom to get the figures from the archive.
Well you may argue that it is an old GPS but the technology has not been going towards more precision but to smaller and less battery draining components so the accuracy will be roughly the same. It is way better that you try to enlighten yourself about the GPS then nag on SGS so we can skip the rather uneducated guesses. I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.
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Well my point about the firmware only incrementing by 5 meters at a time still is valid. No other phone does that. It screws up Google Maps if you're not within 32.8 feet (10 meters). Believe GPS Test or don't if you want, but head to head navigation tests will prove the Galaxy S falls short of most mobile phones with GPS in speed and accuracy. I've never read as many complaints about GPS on any other line of phones than the Galaxy S line.
And as far as me believing in "magical phones" capable of pinpoint GPS accuracy, well then I suppose all of the HTC Android devices must have been made by freakin' Dumbledore himself because I've never once seen them bounce around a city so drastically while using Google Maps for navigation like the Galaxy S bounces around... My sister's G1 is better than my Galaxy S for crying out loud... But what do I know, I don't even speak German lol...
Sheesh..... Tough crowd.....
Read the last line "I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.".
However there are some issues with the GPS but I think they are within the tolerance at least for me. HTC may make better GPS phones but all I am trying to say is that there are so many misconceptions floating around the forum that and I just want to keep the discussion on a certain level.
My GPS for one thing do give bigger "false true location" for the first minutes than what is shown as an error. I tolerate that because I know that it takes time to adjust to true location. I think HTC is better in that sense. However my SGS has an extremely good sensitivity. I can get an lock in the basement with concrete walls on every sida (just a a hole for staircase on one side). To my knowledge no HTC unit has accomplish that. On the other hand there seems to be some trouble with Maps and MyTracks (especially) which seems to be way to slow in updating speed. If you use the built in test program for GPS and use http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html to manually set position you get much better readings. This pointing in the direction that there is some software problems. An educated guess is that the GPS has to low priority (read Hardcore thread) or the file system is to slow. We will see what happens with Gingerbread. I suppose it is going to have a faster file system and some prioritizing tweaks.
You make some valid points.... I still won't buy another sgs device but that's my choice. As far as gingerbread is concerned we're getting ahead of ourselves haha..... we don't have to go there though. At least not in this thread.
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It has to be something to do with the firmware. Why are all of the readings perfectly divisible by 16.4 feet? I only see this with the Galaxy S phones too. As far as the guess about government restricting accuracy, my friend's htc incredible bounces between 3 and 6 feet, and this lucky SOB gets down to 1 foot towards the end of the video!!!
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Just a quick introduction why I am writing this.
I've got technical background with a zillion years of experience in the electronics world ... and yes I'm a bit of a tech nerd. I will not go through the list of phones I owned but the last year it were a couple of Huawei's, Samsung S6, S7 etc etc... So I've never had a real 'China' phone and never had one with a MTK chipset and since I got a really nice deal on this one I bought the 6GB/64GB version for a steal.
I will not go through the unboxing since that is the ultimate crap youtube for me. Open the box, take the phone, cable and charger out and throw the box in the cabinet.
I've read people complain about wifi, camera etc and so I wanted to test this on a bit more than what you see is what you get level.
Wifi : absolutely no issue at all. Works perfectly on my Asus and Linksys 2.4GHz and 5GHz routers. To test this I installed wifi analyser and speed test from the play store. Range, I can see my neighbors wifi as good on the Alpha as on the S7 that is right next to it. Maybe slightly less on the Maze but just a bit.
Throughput. Well not as good as the S7 BUT more than good enough and explainable. The Maze is a single channel and it's max locking speed on 5GHz N is 135Mbps here which results in about 60Mbps download which is the max since it is half duplex. More than good enough for surfing, youtube and whatever.
10 meters further on and behind 1 thick wall I still have about the same speed which is excellent to me.
GPS : Since everyone was complaining about GPS with these MTK chipsets and since I am very much into GPS this was something I was looking out for to test. Test program used : Androits GPS and Google Maps. Cloudy and in the middle of my garden. Wow, didn't take long, probably 5 to 10 seconds and got a lock on 20 out of 20 visible sats. Ladies and gentlemen, there is more to it than a lock and the amount of sats. A couple of the sats over 40 dB snr and a lot of other in the 30 dB snr which is really good. But then the typical MTK which I saw in other reviews... accuracy 1m ... right. Open Google Maps and I am standing in my neighbors garden, mmm 1m accuracy my ... . After a while it slowly crawled into the correct spot and followed me around when I moved around. So, still a bit of a different behavior than the regular Qualcomm. Also now that I am typing this I didn't see any Beidou sats but I consider the amount of locked more than enough.
camera : As many have said not really top and especially comparing this to my S7 .. I will not do this. But good enough for posting on social media and a de-noise program on the pc also helped.
fingerprint : read some comments as 'the screen doesn't come on quickly, there is some delay' djeez, get a life guys. Comparing this to the S6 I had 10 months ago this one works extremely well and very fast.
There are some other things I am noticing and that I am currently checking. The charger that is supplied is a fast charge type, meaning in this case one that has 5V, 9V and 12V output. Well I haven't really drained it down completely yet but I checked the voltage and current. The voltage on my meter showed 5.35 V (which is actually a bit over the 5V default spec) and like 1.9 Amp current. So according to me at this moment the phone doesn't have any real fast charge (yet to test when fully empty, it was at 73%) but the redmi note 4 from my wife also doesn't have this and with a 4000mAh batt it means that it should become full in about 2 h to 2h30 since it should slow down charging above 80 or 90%. I find that more than fast enough since the old Huawei P8 that I tested only charged at 1 Amp max.
Now as some as you said the USB-C connector .... yes, seems a bit strange and 2 of my cables do not really fit well. They charge but the slightest movement and it is a no go, seems the connector is too deep into the device. Now I have a bunch of regular micro usb to c convertors and they are working perfectly. 4 for 1 euro or dollar and that issue is fixed for me.
The FM radio, well reception is not top notch and the stereo, or the lack of it is weird. Standing in the garden I had 1 station that I could hear stereo separation while I know the other ones are also very strong in signal strength and the stereo decoding did not happen. RDS works fine so it must be a threshold setting in the software why stereo did not work as it should. Also you can record FM which is really nice.
As far as the earpiece as I heard people complain about it. Installed my sim and dialed my voicemail. Yes, it should be a bit louder. It is a bit strange because the speaker is at the edge of the device but it sounded 'full' and nice. Maybe if we can root it we can alter the xml with the sound settings and bump it up a little.
4G seemed to work perfectly.
So far my second day of playing around a bit but I actually like it. Now need to get me a Xiaomi silicon case because this thing will eventually get to test Newtons law.
I have to agree with everything you have said, except for where you went indepth on sats as I haven't done that. I am loving this phone and currently there is only one other phone I would consider to replace it with, the elephone s8 in hopes the camera would be much much better.
When driving, google maps did disconnect on the odd occasion which I dont know is acceptable or not but as far as I can tell, it works better than my previous MTK phones which has been most of them.
I've just installed the Jan2018 update (4GB) but I missed the update reasons.
I've had my phone since mid October. :good: on the whole I am impressed. Average use is two days between charge.
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I have to agree with everything you have said, except for where you went indepth on sats as I haven't done that. I am loving this phone and currently there is only one other phone I would consider to replace it with, the elephone s8 in hopes the camera would be much much better.
When driving, google maps did disconnect on the odd occasion which I dont know is acceptable or not but as far as I can tell, it works better than my previous MTK phones which has been most of them.
I've just installed the Jan2018 update (4GB) but I missed the update reasons.
I've had my phone since mid October. :good: on the whole I am impressed. Average use is two days between charge.
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Well due to the festive days haven't really had time to play but tested some stuff again. Went outside with my S7 and the Alpha and checked on Google Maps. S7 said 3 meter accuracy and the Alpha 1 meter on Androits gps. When checking on the S7 I was spot on maps where I was standing, maybe 1 meter away but with the Alpha I was like 5 meters off.
I haven't had time to use it in the car. Since my new car has Android Auto I have not had a phone holder in it. (keeps my eyes on the road)
Maybe give 'GPS test' from Chartcross limited a try. Just go outside and start it up. Check the values above the bars. I consider above 35 (which should be dB snr, signal to noise ratio) to be good. That it lost lock might be another reason, does that happen on a regular basis or was that a 1 off?
lukesan said:
Well due to the festive days haven't really had time to play but tested some stuff again. Went outside with my S7 and the Alpha and checked on Google Maps. S7 said 3 meter accuracy and the Alpha 1 meter on Androits gps. When checking on the S7 I was spot on maps where I was standing, maybe 1 meter away but with the Alpha I was like 5 meters off.
I haven't had time to use it in the car. Since my new car has Android Auto I have not had a phone holder in it. (keeps my eyes on the road)
Maybe give 'GPS test' from Chartcross limited a try. Just go outside and start it up. Check the values above the bars. I consider above 35 (which should be dB snr, signal to noise ratio) to be good. That it lost lock might be another reason, does that happen on a regular basis or was that a 1 off?
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I'll give that app a test when I next go out, want to try it in the car and if/when I lose lock. It happened a few times in over 1,000 miles of driving but was quick to reconnect therefor emuch better than previous MTK phones.