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Hi guys,
Like many of you, I come here to get the latest and greatest firmware updates for my Wizard (8125 for me).
>>> Summiter is king! <<<
One thing I noticed about our Wizard firmware threads, though, is that they are such a mess, and the threads are almost unbearable to sort through.
It's a wonderful community, and friendly posts are fun, but please.. let us try not to 'pollute' serious threads that pertain to new Firmware releases.
When someone like Summiter posts a new firmware, it's wonderful to read the threads to see if other users are experiencing problems, errors, or bizarre behaviour.
By reading other people's experiences, I knew (for example) not to install the previous firmware.
However, did I really have to read through TWELVE pages of things like:
"I've installed it 5 minutes ago!!! So far, so good!!"
or
"I have been using it for 8 minutes. I like it!!"
or
"I think it's stable! But I am not sure... it's still installing!!"
and maybe we should make a thread devoted to "Who thinks Summiter is God!?"
I will post there, for sure! Set it up!
But let's all please try to pitch in and keep his new firmware threads as clean as we can.
If you are excited because your Wizard booted up in 45 seconds and not 3 minutes the first time... that is WONDERFUL! Share it with your wife!!
...but please at least test/try the thing before posting.
The cleaner these threads are, the more useful they will be.
And not only that, 20% of the threads are from users complaining about other users who don't read the posts! I love the, "Hey N00B! You have to read all 16 pages! The answer is in this thread!" posts....
....I hope you guys agree with me. I'm not a mod; not an admin; not even a frequent poster... but like you, I am a PocketPC enthusiast and power user. Like all of you, I am also pressed for time.
I am all for "chit chat", and like to meet new people, but when a new ROM gets released, PLEASE let's try to be a little mature, and at least let us use our devices for... a day(?!) before we post up the:
"I'm downloading it now!!"
type of posts...?
I know it's exciting. I love new ROMs as much as you. But if we all exhibit a little bit of self-restraint, I think we would all benefit from leaner and meaner threads, full of USEFUL info.
I'd love to hear your thoughts. I sure don't mean to insult anyone!
Thanks,
Mike
Michael - Your idea is spot on however I have never seen an open forum anywhere that is as disciplined as we would both like it. All the same it is worth raising the point so that maybe a few contibuters will think twice before making the post. My pet hate is when the thread changes mid way and there is no way of knowing about the change unless you have the time to plough through 18 pages.
Hey there,
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
I agree with you... most open forums end up going off on tangents, and so forth.
I'm only a member of about a dozen forums, and I really think that of all the threads in all the forums, the most 'crowded' threads are Summiter's ROMS.
....and the worst part of that, is that of alllll the threads I read on all my forums, I think his is the most important of all to me!
The best Forum for 'lack of noise' is VBA Express. Wow, it's increadle. Questions - Answers - Clarifications - Thank yous... then you mark the thread as solved.
Unbelieveable. New topic midway? You open a new thread. Sweet.
All the off-topic fun stuff goes into the Misc/Bar & Grill/Lounge type of threads.
Well, at least a few people have viewed this thread.
I am just trying to do my part to give us all - N00bs and pros alike -- a more efficient and enjoyable experience here.
I LOVE to hear about other user's experiences (good and bad!) with new ROMS and so forth... but like you and everyone else, it's tough to sort through 18 pages of some silliness and topic-changes to get to the "meat"!
Well, hopefully a few others will agree with us, and we'll have some nice, clean, and enjoyable threads...
Now I am off to read about the latest ROM... I hope it's as stable as 2.17!
Adios!
Mike
Great! Amazing!
I just started reading your 1st post 20 seconds ago, and I think it's great! I'll let you know what I think when I'm done reading it! Then I'll let you know what I think when I look at the replies! Oh, and do you know where I can get a stylus that writes in invisible ink!? :wink:
I think this is a good concept in principle, however you're missing out on one important aspect. When a new ROM is released, I'll admit I'm not usually an early adopter. I look for problem reports from others to know if I should jump in. But its also important to know that a few folks are trying it. No news is good news usually, so if a bunch of folks end up saying "yeah I tried it" then no negative follow-ups, maybe the ROM is OK. If there's only a few problem reports, how do I know those weren't the only ones who tried the ROM...see what I mean? Oh yeah, and there may be 18 pages of crap, but at least the crap is short and sweet...
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
You get my vote for Noobie of the year!!!!
You came,
You read,
You flashed your Rom!
Thanks for showing us that sometimes it does happen this way.
Welcom to XDA-Dev and enjoy the Wiz...
I second kyphur's words!
Congrats and thank you for taking the time to research first!
Steven
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ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Now that's the way I like it! The same way like I learned everything.
Nest time I see some one-time-poster I'm gonna place a post with this topic link in it
ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Yes. Excellent job. Now you should work on seeing if you can fix the dropped calls issue with that ROM while using data apps
Good to see some successful posts.. out of many unsuccessful ones.
impressive! didn't think it was possible anymore but I have reason to continue living! thanks ec9!
In the famous words of myspace addicts...."you're in my top 8!"....
But since I'm on T-Mobile I can say...."you're in myfav5!"
ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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That is amazing to see now. Very impressive.
hey!!
ec9, i feel exactly the same way as you!! i started the same way as you did. this device is awesome, i bought it the 1st week it was out went around looking how to customize it. after reading a lot on here ive successfully unlocked and flashed my 2nd ROM! it was moliskis rom. awesome site... Thank you all for making it what it is!
Just f*ucking Google it...
I too, came to XDA on a chance Google search. After spending several hours reading and chasing various links around, I identified my device as a G4, performed the reception fix, CID-unlocked it via the $42 IMEI site, and flashed it with Molski 3.0.0.0 -- NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER. (Except for missed calls, non-responsive buttons, etc., but that's ALSO covered in a separate thread)
XDA is an amazing resource, with some incredibly talented people. All I can say to other noobs is to be patient, thorough, and to READ READ READ.
The answers are there, you just need to calm down and LOOK. Don't try SH*T until you're confident you know what you're doing. (Excuse my language)
I LOVE XDA-dev!!
Very Impressive.
Great !
This is a great forum for ANYONE to learn about their devices and see how much they can push to do the things that the devices can do.
I think right out of the box, these devices are kinda limited in their potential. The great guys here in this site make it better and help these devices achive higher grounds.
I am very glad that you had a great experience. I have been this forum for a little over a year and always had great help and experience.
I'm also glad to see someone actually knows how to READ!!
Even though I've had my Wizard for almost 10 months now, xda was one of the FIRST sites I bookmarked after getting it. Even though I registered right away, I read threads for several weeks before ever posting anything.
I had CID and SIM unlocked and flashed to two of Summiter's ROMs within the first 6 weeks I had my phone. That was all it took to become addicted. If I'm not on here reading every day, I go into "information withdrawal".
I'll never be at the level some of these gurus are at, but I'm learning some of the "how-to's" little by little -- and, expanding my knowledge of how to do things that I wouldn't have DREAMED of doing with this phone a year ago.
I'll admit it -- I'm HOOKED!!
Congrats on picking up the information so quickly. I'll have to echo what's already been said here about a GREAT first post by a NOOB!!
Im glad that some newbie's are able use the info here and in the immortal words of the crystal method "there is hope"
We must all give credit to all those ROM cooks for all there hard work and diligence and to the other members that have made it so simple to understand and learn through there trials and errors.
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ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Sorry, I have to totally dissagree with all the praise you are getting.
How can anyone know that thier new device is not 'going to be what they wanted' in less than a day? You will have no base line to measure changes against.
I believe everyone should be made to use their new device for a month, dead standard! I can't help singgering, laughing and shaking my head in disbelief when I read about people complaining that they have to reset 4-5 times a day, that their device freezes, crashes, conflicts, or things don't work, etc, etc. Then they abuse HTC, MS and anyone else they can think of - some people curse and abuse their device, describing it as crap and shouldn't be sold like this.... then they tell you all the changes and mods they have made, and the rubbish they have installed and.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!!!
My Hermes is dead standard and runs like a dream - constantly impressed by it.
I have no quams about people wanting to mod, develop, experiment, etc. but please use your device in original config for long enough to know if you are making improvements or making a mess.
IMHO anyway.
Welcome!
Since a longer time I'm reading the forum and thanks to you guys I learned a lot about my Wizard. I know now how to unlock and "unsimlock" my phone, how to flash it and many many more.
Before I will ask a question I'm reading and searching a forum to find that what I need, that's way until now I didn't post anything, so I want just to say hello to all members.
People gatherd here are very talented and helpfull people.
Best regards.
esseff said:
Sorry, I have to totally dissagree with all the praise you are getting.
How can anyone know that thier new device is not 'going to be what they wanted' in less than a day? You will have no base line to measure changes against.
I believe everyone should be made to use their new device for a month, dead standard! I can't help singgering, laughing and shaking my head in disbelief when I read about people complaining that they have to reset 4-5 times a day, that their device freezes, crashes, conflicts, or things don't work, etc, etc. Then they abuse HTC, MS and anyone else they can think of - some people curse and abuse their device, describing it as crap and shouldn't be sold like this.... then they tell you all the changes and mods they have made, and the rubbish they have installed and.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!!!
My Hermes is dead standard and runs like a dream - constantly impressed by it.
I have no quams about people wanting to mod, develop, experiment, etc. but please use your device in original config for long enough to know if you are making improvements or making a mess.
IMHO anyway.
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If you buy a truck for off-roading and find out the first day that it doesn't have 4 wheel drive, should you continue to drive it for 30 days to see if it will magically appear?
Congrats for researching, mate... I dunno if anyone else feels this way, but there seems to have been an influx of semi-retarded users posting recently saying things like "why won't my Sony Ericsson P990 flash???"... ok it's a bit of an exaggeration, but they're still bloody dum questions!
Like you when I found this site, I spent at least 2 days researching before I even tried to modify anything and everything I searched for came up with appropriate answers... in DEPTH! And the pay-off was quick and painless as a result... my universal now works - full stop. With the O2 ROM, it was a bag of poo compared to what it was made for, and I say that after 8 months or so of usage with original ROM.
I will be pointing resident idiots to this thread too from now on. Many thanks for your intelligence, it's what contributes to this site being as great as it is
Geez. this is the first time I've seen this post. That was like the XDA Developers Hall of Fame at the beginning. Anyway, congrats to the original poster and all who learned the right way. Mods can we re-title this thread "The Perfect Newbie" and make it a sticky to replace some of the outdated ones?
To be or not to be Noob ........
There are loads skulkers like myself that have never bothered to post.
I bow to the superior knowledge of the Windows Mobile gods and keep my trap shut until I have learned / read enough to say something intelligent on the topic.
Most things are clearly labled and easy to find.
Some of the useless post just add clutter and makes it difficult to find the truely useful info.
There will always be impatient PFY's and noob's that can't be bothered to search.
Search + Google is your friend.
A few good, KNOWLEDGEABLE, patient, info-giving, members to keep an eye over the Q&A section here in G1.
If you would like to be part of this team, please leave a post and we, mods, will get back to you.
We have a spanking new Q&A section lets keep it clean and organized.
PLEASE
Id love to help. Im on here all the time anyways messing with stuff.
I'll help out ^_^ Been a mod/admin of various forums if that helps and its nice to be part of a more developer type forum than just tech.
I'll be dropping in now and then to check and help out where I can. No problem.
im new to xda, but have and will be spending great amounts in these forums. I am a very patient person and also have a good knowledge with android to help users with their Questions!
Sure, Love to help =) Good at support hehe ^^
You know I'm always willing to help mikey
i would love to help moderate this part of the forum
always active member.
I'm almost always on
Let me know if I can be of service.
Mikey, I would love to help!
"I live to serve all believers."
Not as many replies as I expected. I haven't posted a lot here, but I've been using XDA to tinker with my G1 from the day I bought it. I've done customer service or tech support for many years and have plenty of patience to deal with all sorts of users. I think I've gotten to know the community enough that even if I don't have the answer, I know where to start looking.
I'm pretty active and have learned a lot, so I'd be glad to help out.
im still learning about everything on the g1 but im willing to help and pass what i know
Would love to be of some help! I am an Admin on another android site too! I could help you out alot!
I'd like in!
I like this forum because answers are always nice and clear even though the questions are a bit vague.
willing to lend a hand if its wanted...
don't claim to know it all but have enjoyed my time here at xda. if i can help keep things squeaky clean let me know.
I can throw in my two cents on subjects I know about. I spend atleast a half hour on here everyday or more.
I don't mind helping if it will keep people from bashing noobs.
I would love to help. I consider myself an experienced user, started developing a bit but I've had work to keep up with so I can't give to the community with developing anything.
I really want to give back to the community, so I hope my knowledge can be of good use.
Sup peeps. I just wanted to drop by and share my thoughts with you. I have a Xperia X1 at the moment and have used lots of other HTC devices before that.
A couple of weeks ago, while looking for a backup device, I got a second hand Kaiser from a friend of mine. It was a good deal and the device is in a very nice shape.
I am mostly done installing apps and tweaking it. I must say that, I am very happy with my puchase. It is a great device and can serve me well even as a primary!
I want to say a big thank you to all the people contributing to the Kaiser forums. I was able to fix all the little issues and to find useful tweaks in the threads of the this forum. All the question I had, have been answered already, with solution for most of the problems as well.
Cheers and keep it up! I am expecting to get many years of service from this device .
Morning ladys and gents! Id just like to say a HUGE thanks to those who keep this forum up and running, provide info, tutorials and development for these handheld wonders!
the reason for my outbirst of gratitude is because ive recientley upgraded my imate PDA2k Smartphone to wm6.5!
After spending a few days getting everything in place, following instructions from chef_tony and a few other issue threads, and runing a few mock runs in my head.. the final thing came together and was finaly put into physical motion this morning arround 7am! with Complete success!
So, next thing is to figure out how to install various bits and bobs without compomiseing the installation and feel my way about.
So again, thanks a bunch everyone, if a complete flashing novice can do it, then im sure allmost anyone can, if they can be arsed to read the information provided
keep up the fantastic work everyone!
Mark.
ditto
i know exactly how you feel man...after reading and browsing several threads here in this forum i finally get the courage to upgrade my BA...it took me 'quite' a while before having a go at it..
i would never have the guts to push through with it without the support and generous nature of the people in these forums, especially Chef_Tony, who helped me out and patiently guided me through the steps that are needed (as of this writing, i've already 'flashed' two ROMs)..now i feel like i have a new phone each time i flash ROMs..
people who are not selfish to share their knowledge and expertise to those like us who are 'newbies' in this area, are what keeps this forum alive and prospering..may their tribe continue to increase..