Free Maps For Tomtom - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hi guys..if you are poor but does't wanna get lost in the wild here are the free map links for our tomtom software..
Mods if this is something i shouldn't share please delete it..in this links there are maps for almost the whole world..USA icluded
here is the second one
all free,from the bottom of my heart
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)

hayaticik said:
hi guys..if you are poor but does't wanna get lost in the wild here are the free map links for our tomtom software..
Mods if this is something i shouldn't share please delete it..in this links there are maps for almost the whole world..USA icluded
here is the second one
all free,from the bottom of my heart
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)
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haha. nice comment.

cool..thanks for the educating comment and deleting the links

Mod comment is in bad taste!!!
hayaticik said:
MOD EDIT: As you guess per your statement above, Warez is not allowed - links deleted. (anyway poor people don't own these phones and if they are lost in the wild it's 'cos a wild animal has dragged them off the barren famine afflicted desert where they practice subsistence farming and govt militia abduct the women folk for the dictators nefarious prostitution racket.)
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I welcome the removal of wares by the moderator above. Unfortunately his enthusiasm went overboard with subsequent comments about poor people I don't believe this forum is only for the "RICH" because I consider myself poor, and have been here a long time and owned many of these exclusive devices for the "rich".
I think that comment is not neccessary when you are correcting a bad situation. Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.

victoradjei said:
Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.
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You are so right. Those dictators can't be that nefarious. After all, they have to feed all those women once they are "acquired."

victoradjei said:
I welcome the removal of wares by the moderator above. Unfortunately his enthusiasm went overboard with subsequent comments about poor people I don't believe this forum is only for the "RICH" because I consider myself poor, and have been here a long time and owned many of these exclusive devices for the "rich".
I think that comment is not neccessary when you are correcting a bad situation. Let us stick to what we are doing here and leave our personal prejudices behind.
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It was meant to be funny, there is no place for thinned skinned people, get a sense of humor.

wpbear said:
It was meant to be funny, there is no place for thinned skinned people, get a sense of humor.
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I am very thickskinned. But if this is the kind of humour you like, it is certainly twisted

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I am very thickskinned. But if this is the kind of humour you like, it is certainly twisted
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I'm in trouble again I see. No offence meant and apologies for any caused.
As for "twisted" - others must decide!
That's my problem you see, I find humor a better tool for getting points across without causing offence or appearing dictatorial. However, humor can be misunderstood - is this funny:
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Well, it is to me
Not to the guy about to be shot out of picture I guess
Mike

I posted the free map links..and personally I got that you weren't serious with that comment..as a proud poor guy ,I just ordered the Att tilt today

hayaticik said:
I posted the free map links..and personally I got that you weren't serious with that comment..as a proud poor guy ,I just ordered the Att tilt today
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"Please Mr Att, can I have a Tilt"
Mike

Is there a specific version of maps for TomTom that work? Their site currently doesn't seem to be selling maps alone, so was wondering if any SD card with TomTom maps will work (I assume you would transfer them over to a microSD card).

Hi!
I note that you wrote " there are maps for almost the whole world "
Bit too much to ask you to list the countries, but was Japan included? I guess not !!
Ofiaich

maryjos said:
Is there a specific version of maps for TomTom that work? Their site currently doesn't seem to be selling maps alone, so was wondering if any SD card with TomTom maps will work (I assume you would transfer them over to a microSD card).
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Version 6 maps work fine. You add the maps to your SD card in a folder with a title given by tomtom (eg GB_Plus_Major_Maps_of_Europe). This folder is normally in the root of directory of the SD card. You would not normally have an SD card with tomtom maps alone on it as that would mean swapping in and out SD cards when you wanted to use tomtom.
Mike

Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.

maryjos said:
Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.
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google maps, if you don't mind data costs. I also hear that you can find lots of pirated material on the interweb. Such brand names as Igo and TomTom are easily found, often cracked and ready to install, if you can swallow your morals long enough to wait for the download to finish...
Seriously, we are all adults here. Seek and ye shall find... (i.e. use some sort of search engine)
take this link for example http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=+gps+software+ppc+torrent

maryjos said:
Well, looks like the HTC ROM does not have TomTom as some people thought? You can sometimes get just the SD card with maps on Ebay fairly cheap so I was hoping I might be able to do that, rather than having to pay $120+ for the software and maps...plus the additional cost of a microSD card to hold them (how much space do they need?)
I'm basically looking for a fairly low-cost way to use the GPS on the device. I already have GPS nav in my car so I wouldn't need it very often, but it's nice to have when you travel or are in someone else's car. I may just end up seeing if I can use AT&T's service, turning it on and off as needed. But that would probably be a last resort.
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No you are right, Tomtom is not in any of the ROMs it came on a CD (not installed), and even then not all areas of the world got Tomtom on the CD.
You would easily get the maps you use on an SD card alongside your other stuff. I have a backup SD I used to use which is only 1Gb and I had tons of apps a few photos various odds and ends and Tomtom GB maps plus major roads of western Europe.
Mike

maryjos said:
(how much space do they need?)
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Latest USA map will set you back 1.42GB

Okay, anything under 2 gig would be quite reasonable. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky and find a cheap copy somewhere. I'd rather not use warez, I'm a software author myself, and morally don't care for stealing just because you don't want to pay what they are charging.

maryjos said:
Okay, anything under 2 gig would be quite reasonable. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky and find a cheap copy somewhere. I'd rather not use warez, I'm a software author myself, and morally don't care for stealing just because you don't want to pay what they are charging.
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Well 99.9999999% of those eBay "cheap copies" are warez - just so you know.

i was little over my head with that line no Japan wasn't included..

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Do me a favour [NSFW or Children]

Guys, I want to ask for a favour.
Ages and ages back I read about what I thought was an amazingly cool gadget.
We like gadgets.
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I got speaking with the guy that invented this thing, and was mightily impressed. You'll be able to read my review soon... but this is the gadget:
The Alpha Grip:
It's a keyboard, compressed onto a gamepad like device. The keys are positioned around and under natural finger positions, according to usage and linguistic frequency; others are positions under the controller and used with rocker type switches.
It's difficult to describe, but the thing sits naturally in your hands and you have full keyboard access, in an exceptionally innovative, ergonomic design.
And, there's more - it also has a little trackerball that sits under your thumb position, so you can control both mouse and keyboard functions without ever taking your hands off the device.
It is complicated, and takes some getting used to, but when you are used to it, it's amazingly neat and geeky. I used to play all of my FPS games with a nostromo N52, but this thing lets you even further automate your gaming, macros and keyboard layouts. It's not quite the perfect game controller, but it's damn near close.
It is wired USB. Wires are baaad.
Unfortunately, it is not wireless or bluetooth etc, which is something I've spoken to the inventor about implementing. So, it's not quite ready for our phones yet, but as and when it is, wow.
However, I use it with an OQO mini computer and it's a perfect marriage, compact and highly productive (once you master the learning curve and get used to it). I guess you could use it with an xbox 360 and ps3 too, which would be cooool (although I've never tried). It emulates a standard USB Keyboard and mouse, so is highly compatible and doesn't use special drivers.
Anyway, enough blurb, I'm not selling this thing, I'm not even reviewing this thing here - you'll be able to read a full review from me eventually (and I'm in no way commercially connected or benefited from this).
However, my favour:
AlphaGrip, the company, have superb technical support and customer care. I like the product, I like the company. But you've probably never heard of either.
So: Yahoo have a competition on right now running between various small businesses that need more attention. I think Alphagrip needs and deserves this... so, have a look at the Yahoo page, and see if you think AlphaGrip deserves a vote. You don't have to buy the product, or even like it, but just decide if it deserves some of your mouse click love to get a gadget a bit more attention.
Gracias.
Yahoo Competition
V
PS. If you do buy one, tell Mike Willner, the inventor, that I sent you. I'll try to put in a good word for us and get us a deal.
EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Guys, I want to repeat. I don't work for these guys, and aren't commercially linked to them in any way. I've just found Mike and his guys (and gals) to be a refreshingly helpful and conscientious tech company. They don't over inflate their claims, but make 100% solid and innovative stuff.
its got my vote.. im not a gamer but love me some gadgets, can see that thing being very useful
Thanks shogunmark!
I have to say that I'm quite a fan of non standard input devices. My all time favourite is the Microsoft Strategic Commander. If you've never seen one, it's basically the thing the little dude in Flight of the Navigator uses to fly the UFO. It kicks ass, but it's a bit too clever for it's own good. It actually has one axis assigned to flexing space/time, like too much Prince of Persia!
Day to day I tend to use the Nostromo n52 (not just for games, but general productivity work with appropriate macros, keyboard hooks and Windows PowerPro - my all time favourite app)
And I've also reviewed the Wolf Claw, which is more conventional, but useful for WASD users. I'm not a WASD fan personally.
BTW, I finally managed to spend some time with the Wii this weekend. It's not a particularly accurate input device, but novel - has anyone considered porting the open source Windows Bluetooth Input Interface to WinMob? It'd be cool to play doom on your phone on the Tube. Way to get shot in the head...
V
EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Also, Mike said that if you want to complain, make suggestions or ask for something completely different, go over to their development wiki to shape what a future Smartphone Compatible version should do.
http://wiki.alphagrips.com/AG-6+Suggestions
V
vijay555 said:
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it)
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Who watches video's?!?? i just do what the voices tell me to
just do what the voices tell me
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Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
V
vijay555 said:
Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
V
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oh yeah, i remember those video's...
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
V
vijay555 said:
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
V
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oh i cooked breakfast.. you were still sleeping, must have been all those roofies i slipped you
wow, talk about hijacking a thread
This thread has gotten really saucy!
It's funny, when checked the thread and first saw the pics of the controller, I thought someone was having some fun with Photoshop. That is one crazy looking gadget!
I think it's wild enough to be pretty cool though. I like anything new and weird though. (including this thread )
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Don't encourage them for gawd's sake Taurus. Sounds like they're as fruity as a nut cake:
Mike
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is that anything like this:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
[SIZE=+1]Back Knobbler [/SIZE]Order code: BK
Manage your own chronic trigger point pain! The 2 different size ends and natural shape allow the user to apply as much pain releasing pressure for as long as required to achieve remarkable effects.
Price: £25.00 each
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Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
vijay555 said:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
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I just voted again, looks like your guy is currently in the lead
Has there ever been a "usual" conversation between the mods, i mean really?!?
I can think of a few people that would need those for christmas
Looking at that knobbler thing, the more it seems to make sense.
My brain overheats just thinking about the possibilities... you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
V
PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
vijay555 said:
My brain overheats
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I dont think thats your brain, but im sure you still think with it
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you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
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You think thats tough.. can you imagine the Research and Development team on that?
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PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
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I think thats pretty obvious, especially with that really old guy mikechannon
mikechannon said:
Since you boys obviously get on so well together and I'd rather keep well away from this very weird thread, I'm going to present you both with a much superior controller than vijay's suggestion. I think you'll find it reminds you of each other so you need never feel lonely again:
Mike
(and it's not even entered for gadget of the year!! Go on shake hands with an old friend!)
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was that from your private collection?
Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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brings a whole new meaning to those traffic cones...
And mike, if you accept V's open invitation, you may want to consider some help..
And dont forget to vote
Hey guys, would any of you consider using the AlphaGrip or any of the above toys, including those for external application only?
One game pad I haven't owned is the Saitek Pro Gamer Command.
I played with it once on a display model and found it tacky and clunky. I much prefer the ergonomics of the Nostromo.
Do you guys ever use these things? Like I said, Nostromo is great for FPS, but you can also configure it to do stuff in productivity apps like PhotoShop, Word, VS2005, Winamp etc (although of course you can do that with pretty much any input device with appropriate software).
V
Geez, what have I got myself into?! This thread degenerated in a hurry.

Why should i get a ATT Tilt?

Hello all i am new to the sight and to "smartphones" and im thinking about getting the Att tilt. But i have heard mixed reviews on the phone most dealing with battery life and other issues. I also am curious about the touch flo and how to make my screen look like an iphone but i have no idea how to do any of this stuff. So what im looking for is pros and cons about the phone and the best add ons to put on the phone. Please help me im a noob when dealing with smartphones/pda's and i NEED guidance.
sweet. Let me guide you right on up to the search function, right up there ^..
Or use either of the 2 linkings in my signature.
And as to why you should get a tilt, it's simple. Because you want one.
You should not buy a Tilt. You should not buy an iPhone. You should get a tin can and a string.
Rule #1, do not start meaningless threads, especially ones that have been hashed out 1,000 times already. Instead, search and then reply to someone elses "should I get a Tilt or iPhone" thread.
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And as to why you should get a tilt, it's simple. Because you want one.
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Brilliant!
Dave
07tacoma said:
how to make my screen look like an iphone
and i NEED guidance.
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And as to why you should get a tilt, it's simple. Because you want one.
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Sounds like he wants an iphone.
Oh then maybe he can wait a little while (say 12 hours) to see if the Iphone2 is coming out.
DOH, still no keyboard or tilt function, which is Uber duber.
I hope you meet Kimbo Slice one day and he uppercuts you for making such a stupid thread.
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Oh then maybe he can wait a little while (say 12 hours) to see if the Iphone2 is coming out.
DOH, still no keyboard or tilt function, which is Uber duber.
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I know for a fact after having my Tilt for the last few months, my next device will have a h/w kb as well.
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be careful doing a Google image search of the word yay at work. There are naughty bits.
I love how one asks a simple question and the rest of the community flames him. These are the types of answers that draws people away. You never know. That one person who you all are beeing so harsh on, might actually be the one to come out with real drivers for the tilt... Doesn't hurt to imagine....
Anyway to his answer: If you live in the USA then I would recommend the tilt. I personally find it the best phone out here but its not reccommended for the average user. The tilt does have a lot of problems though. One of the most noticable one is the camera, which moves tremendesly slow in low light condition but is real good if you have good lighting in your area.
Or you can wait till the new Xperia, Touch Pro to come to the US (which is what I'm doing, and yes I own a Tilt)
We mold men here, once we are done with this guy/girl, he/she will be a flaming machine that never has to ask questions.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
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which moves tremendesly slow in low light condition but is real good if you have good lighting in your area.
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Correction: the camera is = to **** with low light. My friends old ass nokia phone from 1943 took a clear cripst picture with low light vs. my "high tech" tilt in the same light. In fact, the picture didn't even exist cause it couldn't autofocus!
I also highly recommend the device. It's pros definitely outweigh its cons. Yes, as said before, the camera isn't good at all with low light. Touchflo just lets you scroll using your fingers and right now it went commercial to FtouchSL. If you want your device to look like the iPhone, look into iFonz.
i recommend you get this phone. i guarantee u wont regret it
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We mold men here, once we are done with this guy/girl, he/she will be a flaming machine that never has to ask questions.
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Well said, LMFAO!!!!
Hi everyone. Should I get a Tilt, iPhone or pre paid? I like the tilt but can I get a Tilt on prepaid? My brothers friend has a cell phone and I like the way he uses it so I want a phone too. If I get a Tilt, can I flash it? If so, how do I do that?
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Hi everyone. Should I get a Tilt, iPhone or pre paid? I like the tilt but can I get a Tilt on prepaid? My brothers friend has a cell phone and I like the way he uses it so I want a phone too. If I get a Tilt, can I flash it? If so, how do I do that?
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have no doubts, get the tilt! yes you can flash it, after you get one feel free to come back asking the question "how do i do that", you won't regret it
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have no doubts, get the tilt! yes you can flash it, after you get one feel free to come back asking the question "how do i do that", you won't regret it
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But I am worried that my phone will be a brick. Can I send it to you in postal mail and have you do it so that it is fine?
grizzley said:
But I am worried that my phone will be a brick. Can I send it to you in postal mail and have you do it so that it is fine?
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you can send you phone to me, i'll flash whatever rom you want.
as far as the op trying to decide whether or not to get a tilt, i love my tilt, in fact i had an issue with it and when att offered me a "better" phone of comperable value(iphone and treo 750) as a replacement, i laughed and told them that if they ever insulted Lucy(my phone) again like that i would switch to t-mobile to get the front facing camera. as long as you have att you will be dissatisfied with them, but the tilt kicks ass. most people look at it and laugh when i tilt the screen up but when you use a phone that can't do that after three months with the tilt it almost hurts inside.
then again it's all a matter of preference, much more freedom with the tilt than the iphone, and if you really want the phone to look like the iphone, REALLY REALLY bad then clilck the link in my sig(my files) and it'll take you to the place to get the home screen and some decent apps to be more iphone-ish. best of luck hope you choose wisely
grizzley said:
But I am worried that my phone will be a brick. Can I send it to you in postal mail and have you do it so that it is fine?
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Who can resist helping you out, it's what we're into here in this lovely forum. Alas I'll be out of town for some time now but fear not I heard there's a member here who'd love to help free of charge his name is, umm cuboosh or something like that - man we can only wish we had something like "search" function here so we can look up existing posts - feel free to contact him anytime.
LOL... priceless mate, priceless...!!

free drink mix software?

finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?
Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101
App
There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
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After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....
speed_pour said:
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Heck yeah!
+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol
iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
sherv said:
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.
This site works well for me Webtender
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This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.
this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
bigred727 said:
but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.
wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with
Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!

Ethical question why are Closed systems wrong?

Hi,
I have an assignment from school and I have to look for arguments that proves that Closed Systems are wrong in an ethical way. He knows there aren't any strong arguments he just want me to research a little.
The teacher said that I had to look into Richard Stallman but I couldn't find any strong arguments from him.
So the question is what makes Closed Systems Morally wrong if there are any. For example IOS from Apple.
I just need a couple simple arguments to show my teacher. I hope you guys can help.
Thanks in advance!
wingman4ever said:
Hi,
I have an assignment from school and I have to look for arguments that proves that Closed Systems are wrong in an ethical way. He knows there aren't any strong arguments he just want me to research a little.
The teacher said that I had to look into Richard Stallman but I couldn't find any strong arguments from him.
So the question is what makes Closed Systems Morally wrong if there are any. For example IOS from Apple.
I just need a couple simple arguments to show my teacher. I hope you guys can help.
Thanks in advance!
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You know I was about to help with this. But I see it's your first post. It's early morning in US. And you probably have this paper due in the morning. Given all those, I will say this. You should have studied harder, great first post , and look up the advantages/disadvantages of open source. Much to learn you have young padawon.
Well actually it's not due tomorrow. It's my first post because I don't have an android, I have an iPhone but thought I would get better answers on an Android forum. I did research on Open Source and Free Software but still couldn't find any strong arguments.
wingman4ever said:
Well actually it's not due tomorrow. It's my first post because I don't have an android, I have an iPhone but thought I would get better answers on an Android forum. I did research on Open Source and Free Software but still couldn't find any strong arguments.
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You hasz iCrap?!?! GTFO. NAO!
jk. No, but seriously..
wingman4ever said:
Well actually it's not due tomorrow. It's my first post because I don't have an android, I have an iPhone but thought I would get better answers on an Android forum. I did research on Open Source and Free Software but still couldn't find any strong arguments.
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then you haven't searched hard enough. What have you searched for and what have you found?
Well the thing is that Apple is not doing anything wrong "ethically". The buyer or user knows that the iDevice is a closed system and Apple has made that very clear therefore Apple has the right to do so. The user may think that they block all the software freedom of the iDevice. But the main point of doing so is that Apple did it to protect their company's profit and their "It Just Works" principle. And also they let you jailbreak it and you have the choice of not buying it.
I am also not looking for the benefits of an open system. I know it has a lot but what I am really looking for is why closed systems(IOS) are "morally" wrong.
The only thing I can think of is that Apple did that because of anti-trust problem but I don't know if my teacher thinks this is a valid argument.
wingman4ever said:
Well the thing is that Apple is not doing anything wrong "ethically". The buyer or user knows that the iDevice is a closed system and Apple has made that very clear therefore Apple has the right to do so. The user may think that they block all the software freedom of the iDevice. But the main point of doing so is that Apple did it to protect their company's profit and their "It Just Works" principle. And also they let you jailbreak it and you have the choice of not buying it.
I am also not looking for the benefits of an open system. I know it has a lot but what I am really looking for is why closed systems(IOS) are "morally" wrong.
The only thing I can think of is that Apple did that because of anti-trust problem but I don't know if my teacher thinks this is a valid argument.
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Do a lil research on netscape and internet explorer. I'll help you if you show work. That was a good post you just had there. And honestly I don't think that all people quite understand the concept of drm, itunes, and ios when they buy an apple device. Exactly how clear is it that what you just bought will only work on that machine and that device? It sure wasn't clear for my ex wife when she bought an iphone.
boborone said:
Do a lil research on netscape and internet explorer. I'll help you if you show work. That was a good post you just had there. And honestly I don't think that all people quite understand the concept of drm, itunes, and ios when they buy an apple device. Exactly how clear is it that what you just bought will only work on that machine and that device? It sure wasn't clear for my ex wife when she bought an iphone.
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I couldn't agree more. Not that this will help you in terms of your assignment but.... The mass media and social demographics are brainwashed by the term "iPhone." Look at Ziplock, Sharpie and other well-known names; It's common knowledge, per say. The vast majority of people who buy an iPhone or have one could care less about it being closed source or even know what that is.
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The vast majority of people who buy an iPhone or have one could care less about it being closed source or even know what that is.
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But when they like the look of a Samsung S4, or something similar they're told, "Yeah, that won't have access to all the tunes and books you've bought on your iPhone and iPad. Best stick with Apple." Of course software isn't interchangeable across OSs, but at least with other OSs you have a choice of what device you have, rather than "I want that one", or "I want that one s".
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But when they like the look of a Samsung S4, or something similar they're told, "Yeah, that won't have access to all the tunes and books you've bought on your iPhone and iPad. Best stick with Apple." Of course software isn't interchangeable across OSs, but at least with other OSs you have a choice of what device you have, rather than "I want that one", or "I want that one s".
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Wait.....totally not trolling you. But what was that you just said. I got confusimicated.
boborone said:
Wait.....totally not trolling you. But what was that you just said. I got confusimicated.
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I'm thinking:
The sheep are better off behind the fence in the pasture
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Wait.....totally not trolling you. But what was that you just said. I got confusimicated.
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Tally got it right
Nah, just that I find the "once we've got you you're going to lose everything if you leave" attitude quite immoral.
I totally agree. I had a lot of music I paid for years ago in iTunes, which Apple tries hard to keep non-Apple users from accessing on their mobile devices.
-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy
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Archer said:
Tally got it right
Nah, just that I find the "once we've got you you're going to lose everything if you leave" attitude quite immoral.
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Oh ok. Yea, that was the whole reason she stayed with the iphone. She wanted to switch to android where she could easily put her own content on her phone. She found out that all the ringtones, songs, and books she bought would be lost and only available on i devices. That was her only reason to stay with them. I thought it was pretty corrupt of them to charge her again for the music she had already paid for, to release the drm so she could transfer it from her iphone to android.
It goes to the netscape debacle. Creating a monopoly without fully notifying the end user of what they are buying into. It's fine to release software/hardware that only works with specific software/hardware if you tell the customer of such. That becomes an anti-trust issue border-lining on a monopoly that you have created to hook people into without a way out.
When you buy an idevice, you inherently know you are buying into a "system". But the extent of that system is not made clear to the end user.
Just take a look at the term you are signing into when you buy an apple device.
http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/
http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/appstore/dev/stdeula/
http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html
I feel I need a law degree just to comprehend the preamble.
Now have a gander at this.
http://play.google.com/intl/en_us/about/play-terms.html
Hey I can understand that. Big difference.
You can't tell me people understand what they are getting themselves into when buying an idevice unless they are tech savvy.
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jRi0T68 said:
I totally agree. I had a lot of music I paid for years ago in iTunes, which Apple tries hard to keep non-Apple users from accessing on their mobile devices.
-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy
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Yep, a loop. They try to hook you in to keep upgrading on their system on devices/hardware to keep access to what you bought in their system, not knowing that you have to stay there with them in order to keep what you have paid for.
My bad Apple actually did not clearly state that their systems are closed. But what matters is that they have stated in the The buyer is responsible for reading the agreement.
I also want to say that this assignment is just for a small discussion that I have to have with the teacher. No paper needed. But it does improve my mark though.
I am just curious what you guys have to say about Closed Systems. But the more I think about it the more I think there arent any legit arguments against Closed Systems.
So I may just turn it around and argue that Apple has all the right to do so.
Although I still hate Apple for forcing people by trying to block Jailbreaking.
I actually made it through all of this essay... good read....
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4371
wingman4ever said:
My bad Apple actually did not clearly state that their systems are closed. But what matters is that they have stated in the The buyer is responsible for reading the agreement.
I also want to say that this assignment is just for a small discussion that I have to have with the teacher. No paper needed. But it does improve my mark though.
I am just curious what you guys have to say about Closed Systems. But the more I think about it the more I think there arent any legit arguments against Closed Systems.
So I may just turn it around and argue that Apple has all the right to do so.
Although I still hate Apple for forcing people by trying to block Jailbreaking.
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Well good for you. We all like open source/systems, which is why we use it. You can't debate a subject without seeing both sides. And you don't see both sides.
And btw, there have been numerous court cases involving tos of companies that even though you click that you have read them, have been overturned becuase they have been ruled for some reason or another unfitting. So just because you say you read them, doesn't mean that's a good deal. tos can change after you buy a product. Which itunes does regularly. So you buy into something only to have it change, totally not right. And no backing out. But you bought into it. Are happy with it. So go argue for it.
Run along now.
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Cooincidence or long Term Plan Googles ? Why Android is called android

Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
PS You may think iam crazy, then again maybe google fed you the exact information to make you think that
bofh999 said:
Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
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This post made my head spin but I can't say that this can't be a possibility. I mean 10 years ago if you would have told me that mobiles were going to be important part of our lives I would have laughed!
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How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
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This!
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This!
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why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
I definitely think you're crazy
I also think the tin-foilers have a highly inflated sense of their own importance, thinking that everyone wants to know everything about them.
bofh999 said:
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
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Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
I say ,blame the humans...And those troll people like @Darth ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...un-millennial-ai-bot-into-a-genocidal-maniac/
Death to trolls!!
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No. Computers do not think and are not capable of thinking. They do what they are told and *nothing* else.
The Microsoft thing was misreported as click-bait to sucker people who will believe anything they read. The phrase "repeat after me..." was used to make it repeat offensive phrases. It did not "decide" that it liked Hitler - it did what it was told.
What you suggest cannot happen with our technology - it is simply not capable.
OP
I came from the machine world... I know it's coming!
Darth said:
Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
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Not the point. Practically everyone relys of computer if you use em or not, if he knows that or not.
Energy, Food, Money,information and communication,.... take whatever you want, its all running now deeply dependent on computers and networks.
you dont need to kill mankind, if you control every little piece of imnformation you control the people.
look like countries like north korea work. still they need violence but most people there really think kim is a god.
and if the biug AI wants to kill us, well simply change a few numbers.
make mankind believe we have enough food and energy until we drained everything to zero and then we simply starve, simplfied spoken
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.

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