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This is probably a silly question, but where is the the microphone located on the Tilt? Is it the small round hole at the bottom, the two larger round holes on the bottom, or somewhere else?
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Robert
Same hole as the reset button hole. I'm not sure if it uses the same Mic for speakerphone, though.
Where is the reset button hole? (I never have used it, so I don't know where it is. Sorry that I am such "newbie".)
On the bottom of the device, just to the right of the USB connector. Note that there are two holes; the big round hole is for the reset, the small oval hole is the mike.
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Where is the reset button hole? (I never have used it, so I don't know where it is. Sorry that I am such "newbie".)
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You are not a newbie. You have chosen to be ignorant by not reading the manual that came with the device. If you do not have manual then you have still chosen to be ignorant by not visiting htc.com and downloading the free and very easily searched PDF file. If you did not assume you need to read the manual for such a sophisticated device then you shouldnt be asking such a simple and easily answered question.
I've read the manual 3 times so far.
Me again, my Kaiser is for sale now on Ebay and I'm waiting for the end of the auction; I complained a lot about the fact it is a very bad device for entertainment, but the pad really sucks also for everyday usage !
The two windows buttons around the pad, on the top, are too small. I tried to use my Kaiser as a phone for the first time today, but when I wanted to access the contacts using one of these two windows buttons, most of the time I also pushed the pad at the same time, I was about to throw my Kaiser away !!! Of course same problems when using the other apps of the Kaiser (calendar, etc ...).
Why the hell HTC designed this ****ing pad like that ??? It is too large, and the buttons around it are too small.
If only they would have reduce the pad to make it square (like on the old TYTN) then the buttons around it would be bigger and easier to use !!!!!!!!
A child could imagine that !!!
How much was paid the ergonomic designer of the Kaiser ???????!!!!
And to that I add the fact that the looseness of this pad is really annoying for me, it makes me think I'm using a cheap device.
I really want now my Kaiser to be sold quickly because as long as I will still have it, I will always want to give it another try, and each time I'm getting so nervous that I want to break it !
This is the first pocketpc, out of the seven I had, wich makes me so angry each time I'm using it. And it will also be the one I will have owned for a so short time ! (less than a month)
Too bad because its size is very good when you think about everything it has inside, on the paper it should be a close to perfect device, but the realisation and some conception defaults makes it really a "not worth it" device for me.
The only thing I really appreciated is the integrated GPS, and that's it !!!
Actaully, I like the Kaiser pad for the most part.
The flat keypad on the original Tytn is a pain in the ass to use, as you can't really navigate by feel (useful if you are trying to hit the answer key while reaching into your pocket). Using a completely flat d-pad means you hit the center button almost every time you try to navigate, and it makes diagonals almost impossible.
(Note: I never tried the sculpted keypad of the AT&T flavor of the Tytn - thought it was ugly and liked the flat look of the HTC branded Tytn better. Never will I choose esthetics over functionality again)
There's a Kaiser variant from T-mobile that uses a similar flat keypad design, though the d-pad is a little more sculpted. I don't understand why HTC doesn't stick with one D-pad design for all of it's models. It's pretty sad when the phone that has everything you need at the moment is ruined by a lousy physical UI.
Now, I do agree with you that the elongated d-pad takes some getting used to -- and I can definitely see that being either a love it/hate it thing.
My previous PPC/phones were a Tytn I, a Toshiba e800, and an HP 4150 (HTC design). If you think the Kaiser pad is bad try the e800! HTC got it right on with the 4150 design though, possibly the best Pocket PC I've ever used.
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Actaully, I like the Kaiser pad for the most part.
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But there are still people who complain and cry for there own stupid mistakes.
A little tip: go to a shop next time and try a device before you buy.
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But there are still people who complain and cry for there own stupid mistakes.
A little tip: go to a shop next time and try a device before you buy.
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in a shop, using the device for 5 minutes, does not tell you if you will get use to it (if the seller does allow you to play with it for 5 minutes !).
I also would be glad to know the interest of such a large pad.
Just sell it and buy an other pda and go on with your live.
Don't make such a difficulty of it.
It's not good for your stress level.
I've never had problems with my D-Pad. I'm able to use it just fine without feeling that it's that small. It cold have been a little prettier but it's okay. About the loussiness, maybe it's made that way to protect it from heavy usage. Maybe it' the same principle of ventilators that are never fixed that well on the ceiling. You can notice that it's shaking and that makes it look like it's properly placed, but that happens to protect the device from tearing the ceiling apart over the years.
Weird that the two buttons he is talking about correspond to 1) the soft menu buttons on the screen and he could thus just tap the screen as a workaround or 2) when you use the keyboard, the buttons are replaced with the hardware buttons at the top of the keyboard.
I found it weird for a while moving from a Hermes to a Kaiser - different buttons, screen sliding open the other way but YOU GET USED TO THE CHANGES!
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Weird that the two buttons he is talking about correspond to 1) the soft menu buttons on the screen and he could thus just tap the screen as a workaround or 2) when you use the keyboard, the buttons are replaced with the hardware buttons at the top of the keyboard.
I found it weird for a while moving from a Hermes to a Kaiser - different buttons, screen sliding open the other way but YOU GET USED TO THE CHANGES!
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I was talking about the "soft menu" buttons, but not only, also about the buttons wich are below it. All buttons around the pad in fact.
You say I can use the on screen buttons, yes ,for sure !
But then you can also say that the soft menu buttons are useless ...
I don't think they are useless, they are very usefull, they allow us to use the device with only one hand, and also I hate pressing the screen with my fingers.
If HTC would not put these soft menu buttons around the pad, I would just not buy the Kaiser. But if they put it there, they should make them easy to access (and it was very easy to do !).
I just want to say that I have quite large hands/fingers and I have no problems with those buttons at all. If I go to push one, I dont wind up pushing the ones next to it. If you have such trouble you must really have some sausage fingers. If that's the case, I dont quite see how you can blame HTC for it.
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I just want to say that I have quite large hands/fingers and I have no problems with those buttons at all. If I go to push one, I dont wind up pushing the ones next to it. If you have such trouble you must really have some sausage fingers. If that's the case, I dont quite see how you can blame HTC for it.
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lol. i feel the same way. i have big hands and fingers, and i have no troubles with the keyboard. Must be some brought wurst fingers.
No problem for me either. Other than the Dpad should be a bit tighter, I like it better than the rest of the HTC devices.
Well it is isn't it? I've been making allowances for the fact that with pretty much everything I try and get my Kaiser to do I start off using my fingers, then get the stylus out and finally resort to sliding out the keyboard. For example, I want to write an SMS, so I press the HTC Action app with the left soft key and press the screen for New SMS, so far so good. But then I want to enter a recipient; no-can-do with the tiny itsy bitsy HTC keyboard, so out comes the stylus, now all's well and good if you're sitting at home but if you're in a train or something forget it, the hardware keyboard is the only way. Now I know other touch keyboards are available but those that I've tried are still fiddly and coupled with the unpredictability of the screen itself, are not up to the job. About that unpredictability, the final straw came for me when a woman in a car park asked me if I'd be kind enough to dial her number because she'd lost her phone somewhere in the car and wanted to check it was there and not in the supermarket. It was a bright sunny day so the first problem I had was that I could hardly see the numbers on the screen, but after cupping one hand round it to shade it I could just about make them out. So she reeled off her number and I attempted to dial, it took three slow attempts, what with the latency and all, before I managed to enter it correctly, at one point it interpreted a 2 as an 8, a 5 I could forgive but an 8? There was no way my thumb was anywhere near the 8. Also, just entering the initial pin number on startup can be a struggle, sometimes the key I've pressed lights up, so I know the kaiser's recognised it, but the * to show the number is entered doesn't show up. Other times the * appears but the key doesn't light up. Sometimes I get two * instead of one. If I'd have had a bog standard hardware keypad then I'd have had the number in first time, in seconds. So anyway, at the risk of being a luddite it seem to me that touchscreens are very pretty and clever and all, but you can't beat hardware buttons for speed and accuracy.
You know - until I got your message I was happy with my tilt - but you have convinced me - You are right!
When I open a word document that is 207 pages long the keyboard on screen covers up a lot of what I can see. An an EXCEL spreadsheet - forget it - when there are over 100 rows and more than 40 columns - you can't see anything hardly.
And when you go to print - well - 'nuff siad there right?
And logging on to a remote computer - well - good grief - I am gonna send this piece of trash right back immediately. Only the iphone for me -man - with that HUGE screen I can see - well- not really much more - maybe if I did all this stuff on my computer I would be happier?
Bill
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Well it is isn't it? I've been making allowances for the fact that with pretty much everything I try and get my Kaiser to do I start off using my fingers, then get the stylus out and finally resort to sliding out the keyboard. For example, I want to write an SMS, so I press the HTC Action app with the left soft key and press the screen for New SMS, so far so good. But then I want to enter a recipient; no-can-do with the tiny itsy bitsy HTC keyboard, so out comes the stylus, now all's well and good if you're sitting at home but if you're in a train or something forget it, the hardware keyboard is the only way. Now I know other touch keyboards are available but those that I've tried are still fiddly and coupled with the unpredictability of the screen itself, are not up to the job. About that unpredictability, the final straw came for me when a woman in a car park asked me if I'd be kind enough to dial her number because she'd lost her phone somewhere in the car and wanted to check it was there and not in the supermarket. It was a bright sunny day so the first problem I had was that I could hardly see the numbers on the screen, but after cupping one hand round it to shade it I could just about make them out. So she reeled off her number and I attempted to dial, it took three slow attempts, what with the latency and all, before I managed to enter it correctly, at one point it interpreted a 2 as an 8, a 5 I could forgive but an 8? There was no way my thumb was anywhere near the 8. Also, just entering the initial pin number on startup can be a struggle, sometimes the key I've pressed lights up, so I know the kaiser's recognised it, but the * to show the number is entered doesn't show up. Other times the * appears but the key doesn't light up. Sometimes I get two * instead of one. If I'd have had a bog standard hardware keypad then I'd have had the number in first time, in seconds. So anyway, at the risk of being a luddite it seem to me that touchscreens are very pretty and clever and all, but you can't beat hardware buttons for speed and accuracy.
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I hardly ever use the stylus, so I'd have to disagree. The touchpad works fairly well for me and I have very large hands. To each his own.
look9001 said:
Well it is isn't it? I've been making allowances for the fact that with pretty much everything I try and get my Kaiser to do I start off using my fingers, then get the stylus out and finally resort to sliding out the keyboard. For example, I want to write an SMS, so I press the HTC Action app with the left soft key and press the screen for New SMS, so far so good. But then I want to enter a recipient; no-can-do with the tiny itsy bitsy HTC keyboard, so out comes the stylus, now all's well and good if you're sitting at home but if you're in a train or something forget it, the hardware keyboard is the only way. Now I know other touch keyboards are available but those that I've tried are still fiddly and coupled with the unpredictability of the screen itself, are not up to the job. About that unpredictability, the final straw came for me when a woman in a car park asked me if I'd be kind enough to dial her number because she'd lost her phone somewhere in the car and wanted to check it was there and not in the supermarket. It was a bright sunny day so the first problem I had was that I could hardly see the numbers on the screen, but after cupping one hand round it to shade it I could just about make them out. So she reeled off her number and I attempted to dial, it took three slow attempts, what with the latency and all, before I managed to enter it correctly, at one point it interpreted a 2 as an 8, a 5 I could forgive but an 8? There was no way my thumb was anywhere near the 8. Also, just entering the initial pin number on startup can be a struggle, sometimes the key I've pressed lights up, so I know the kaiser's recognised it, but the * to show the number is entered doesn't show up. Other times the * appears but the key doesn't light up. Sometimes I get two * instead of one. If I'd have had a bog standard hardware keypad then I'd have had the number in first time, in seconds. So anyway, at the risk of being a luddite it seem to me that touchscreens are very pretty and clever and all, but you can't beat hardware buttons for speed and accuracy.
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I'm sorry, I've been seeing more and more of these big blocks of text. And I'm not reading them.
Not to sound offensive but if you don't break up what you are saying into palatable paragraphs some people will figure it is too much work to read what you have to say.
BTW I think my touch screen works just fine. Though I'm not sure if thats what you are getting at becasue I only read the last sentance.
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I'm sorry, I've been seeing more and more of these big blocks of text. And I'm not reading them.
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+1 Jimmy
The return key is your friend.
JimmyMcGee said:
I'm sorry, I've been seeing more and more of these big blocks of text. And I'm not reading them.
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At least this one is using punctuation... that's progress.
JimmyMcGee said:
I'm sorry
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Apology accepted!
look9001 said:
Well it is isn't it?
I've been making allowances for the fact that with pretty much everything I try and get my Kaiser to do I start off using my fingers, then get the stylus out and finally resort to sliding out the keyboard.
For example, I want to write an SMS, so I press the HTC Action app with the left soft key and press the screen for New SMS, so far so good. But then I want to enter a recipient; no-can-do with the tiny itsy bitsy HTC keyboard, so out comes the stylus, now all's well and good if you're sitting at home but if you're in a train or something forget it, the hardware keyboard is the only way.
Now I know other touch keyboards are available but those that I've tried are still fiddly and coupled with the unpredictability of the screen itself, are not up to the job. About that unpredictability, the final straw came for me when a woman in a car park asked me if I'd be kind enough to dial her number because she'd lost her phone somewhere in the car and wanted to check it was there and not in the supermarket.
It was a bright sunny day so the first problem I had was that I could hardly see the numbers on the screen, but after cupping one hand round it to shade it I could just about make them out. So she reeled off her number and I attempted to dial, it took three slow attempts, what with the latency and all, before I managed to enter it correctly, at one point it interpreted a 2 as an 8, a 5 I could forgive but an 8? There was no way my thumb was anywhere near the 8. Also, just entering the initial pin number on startup can be a struggle, sometimes the key I've pressed lights up, so I know the kaiser's recognised it, but the * to show the number is entered doesn't show up. Other times the * appears but the key doesn't light up. Sometimes I get two * instead of one. If I'd have had a bog standard hardware keypad then I'd have had the number in first time, in seconds.
So anyway, at the risk of being a luddite it seem to me that touchscreens are very pretty and clever and all, but you can't beat hardware buttons for speed and accuracy.
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Better?
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I hardly ever use the stylus, so I'd have to disagree. The touchpad works fairly well for me and I have very large hands. To each his own.
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Of course YMMV and IMHO etc. But really, can you honestly type in numbers accurately at faster than approximately one per second on the touch screen?
look9001 said:
Apology accepted!
Better?
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You need to tab when beginning a new papgraph. Sorry I couldn't resist
However i find the touchscreen very user friendly, but that is in my opinion and the wat i use it. I use excel all the time.
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Better?
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Much
Also, If my Kaiser PDA phone didn't have a touchscreen, than it would be a smartphone.
The fact they original keyboard is terribly small it's true, that's why we have the hardware keyboard, I mean, why buy a Kaiser if you're not gonna use the keyboard? There's plenty other good SIPs like pocketcm, touchpal or even the HTC Touch keypad, which, with xt9 is awesome tbh.
The pin "part" is ofc true, but if you have programs loading at the boot, how can you expect to do it all at once, just wait 10 more seconds for the programs to load and then the pin can be entered.
The sunlight in the screen is indeed a big damn flaw, I can perfectly see my n80 at the sun, but the Kaiser is impossible to read, sometimes I can't even tell if the screen is on or off, cuz you just can't see a thing.
As for the screen "response", well mine works well, I play and type fairly much and I rarely have problems with it, I suggest messing with the "pressure threshold" settings, maybe you have it too high.
I believe I nearly went blind trying to read that rant. He does have a point, but the problems are a bit exagerated.
Why does this type of thread constantly come up? If you don't like the phone, return it, sell it or throw it away and buy one you like. This type of thread has nothing to do with XDA-Developers. Notice the word Developers in the name? Has this thread provided any useful information or has it just added to the mass of useless threads?
i like my touch screen and everything else about my tilt. Now where r those video drivers... (couldn't resist as this is the only flaw imo)
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Of course YMMV and IMHO etc. But really, can you honestly type in numbers accurately at faster than approximately one per second on the touch screen?
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Yes, for the most part I can.
Are you sure that chick at the supermarket lost her phone? Or was she discreetly giving you her phone number and you couldn't type it in? So much for a phone hampering your game.
Man the Kaiser forums are way more fun than the Polaris ones.
To be fair the Kaiser was not designed from the ground up to be finger friendly. Yeah they lack capacitive screens, but I didn't find the Hermes all that bad, neither is the Cruise. The Cruise is a bit better because it's flush, so touching the edges of the screen is much better.
I have no problems with my Touch Screen. With a few tweeks I have got it to a level that works well.
Id like to make a example. Its called consumer research. For instance, when you go to AT&T and are interested in purchasing a Cell Phone, What do you do? Well I for instance, use the product and see if I like it. Now when you go to AT&T you wouldn't just say give me a tilt because it looks cool, at least I would hope not. You use it, take it home and you have 30 days to return it.
There is really no reason why a thread like this should even exist. The kaiser/tilt is a very unique device. I could go on for 10 hours about it. To me the video driver situation is not a problem, i would however like it to respond quicker but I have become used to it, as i don't watch video on it. But this thread is about the touch screen, so out of respect to the originator of this thread ill stay on topic.
Hopefully all of you by now realize the difference between a Resistance and capacitance touch screen, to simplify the Iphone is capacitance the kaiser is a resistance. A resistive has a bunch of resistors under the screen and when pressure is applied the specific area the resistor shorts out making the screen realize the area of the screen to respond to. A capacitance touch screen responds to the biometrics (the electric current we all have in our bodies) so as you run your finger over one of these screens it follows, and is more accurate than a resistance screen.
So when you are at any local wireless store and try the difference between the two devices. Furthermore if your so unhappy with the device that you so decided to purchase then sell it, there is no reason to spend a bunch of money on a device that you are not happy with. I also believe (and again no disrespect to the author of this thread) many people that complain right off the bat about the GUI or the overall performance of this or any other device, is just jumping on a "bandwagon" without knowing all the technical details.
So if your unhappy, you have two options.
1. Keep the device and, tweak it, customize it and make it uniquely yours. and by doing so complimenting the "seniors" and "chiefs" for working so hard to DEVELOP the software to make it better.
2. Return it or sell it and do RESEARCH and buy a device/phone that you are happy with.
P.S. Many people work very hard here creating software to help you, the user. Post's like this can be very disrespectfull to the people that help you.
^^^ touche, i'm sick of reading "my kaiser suxx omg !!one" threads, enough with the *****ing already.
While we all appreciate that the OP is entitled to his own opinions, it's clear to me that the premise of this thread is not going to lead the forum anywhere except to yet another *****fest, which will eventually lead to closing this thread.
Why wait till then...
Hi folks,
I have figured that there are Diamonds out there with a declination in the accelerometer, which can be noticed by playing Teeter.
Some of them do have the declination, some of them don't.
Mine does .
When you hold the Diamond completely straight, or lay the device down on a flat surface (table), the ball doesn't stay in place, but rolls down in my case.
Another guy having the Diamond has the same, but in his case the ball rolls to the other side. A few other Diamonds I have tested where working the proper way, when "flat" means really "flat".
Who has the same? And would there be a way to sort of calibrate the accelerometer?
Could it be because of the back casing not being completely flat?
Could be, but I have seen Diamonds where the ball just stayed in the middle without movement when lying flat on a table.
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Could be, but I have seen Diamonds where the ball just stayed in the middle without movement when lying flat on a table.
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You're sure the table was levelled?
I'm sure they only calibrate it roughly. There probabaly is a way to do it yourself, but first we'll need to know the API's for the accelerometer.
And have you measured the table with a water-lever or similar device? Because if not then putting the diamond on a table that you just believe to be flat seems like a really really stupid argument....
The only way you can tell is to put them alltogether on the same table. If you can hold the Diamond in your hands in such a possition so the ball doesn't move anymore I would say your table is just not exactly horizontal.
Try to remove back cover...
Guys,
Trust me, I know what I'm saying.
The thing is that my and a few other Diamonds have the Teeter ball rolling towards one side when held exactly the same way (or lying on the same table) while other Diamonds have the ball lying still in the middle of the screen.
May be they're not calibrated right then, like someone1234 said. Can you hold the Diamond in your hands in such a possition - even if tilted, so the ball doesn't move anymore?
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May be they're not calibrated right then, like someone1234 said. Can you hold the Diamond in your hands in such a possition - even if tilted, so the ball doesn't move anymore?
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Yes I can.
And then it's tilted (not much, but it is tilted).
I found the solution. HTC knows that they unable to calibrate the accelerometer. So they chose to have that fancy looking backplate to cover this shortness of the device. Hmm. Evil me. Sorry
In my diamond, inside teeter, the ball fall down, even if in a flat surface.
tomorrow it will be replaced with a new one, and i hope it will got a well calibrated one.
at the moment its not a big problem, but think about the future, maybe "improtant" application developed starting from the accelerometer, that will get a wrong feedback...that could be a problem...
They (or a third party) just need to come with a tool that allows the user to calibrate the accelerometer himself, in sort of way the touchscreen calibration goes. Or something.
Developers challenge?
Now, i'm not saying you don't have a right to be annoyed and I see exactly why you'd want to get i fixed. However, does it matter that much? I'm just thinking, it is only an issue when you place the Diamond on a flat surface, how many games are you going to play that involve you placing the diamond on a table? What i mean is, the whole point of the sensor is it detects you moving the device, if you place it on a table the sensor becomes useless anyway.
Like I said: other than the table, when I hold the device in my hands I need to tilt the Diamond in order to have the ball stand still.
This means there is a declination in the accelerometer, and I would like to have that calibrated. And yes, that matters to me.
In the OEM pack for the Sensor (PACKAGE_Diamond_SensorSDK)
Code:
REGEDIT4
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\HTCSENSOR]
"Order"=dword:00000008
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"Keep"=dword:00000001
"Context"=dword:00000000
"Dll"="HTCSensorService.dll"
"Prefix"="SEN"
"DisplayName"="HTC Sensor Service"
"Description"="HTC Sensor Service"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCSensor\GSensor]
"RotateAngleThreshold"=dword:0000002d
"CheckingTime"=dword:000001f4
"TilingAngleThreshold"=dword:00000014
"NotifyAppRotationMask"=dword:0000003f
"FaceupAsPortrait"=dword:00000001
"FaceupToLandscape"=dword:00000000
"LandscapeToP0Threshold"=dword:00000028
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\MASD]
"SensorSDK"="3_3_18153516_0"
Does editing the "RotateAngleThreshold" value do anything? I think an increase should reduce the sensitivity.
Accelerometer..
I have the same problem.. I was about to start a new thread when I saw this one.
I just sent a mail to HTC with de problem description. Maybe they can tell me what to do about it. If not.. I will contact the company where I did order the device. So they can ship me a new one.
same problem here
Isn't that thing meant for measuring DIFFERENCES (change in G-force) instead of continuously measure currend position of your Diamond?
The second option is pointless to me, and so rough calibration should do exactly what it is supposed to do: know when you change your Diamonds position and to where it changed...
From searching this forum, I can tell that others are having the same issue I am having. It started out with just a couple keys and now about 50% of my keys require me to push really hard for them to type. It is not a lag issue as covered by another thread. It just feels like the there may be dirt or something under the keys that makes it harder to type. This issue also is not ROM related as I have flashed my device with several ROMS with the same result.
Has anyone had any luck taking apart the keyboard and cleaning underneath the keys? If so -- maybe post some tips on what worked or not.
Thanks.
I'd vote for compressed air
I agree. You might be able to disassemble the phone and take the keyboard out and use compressed air. That would make certain that all the dirt is really out of the board...
A work mate of mine did this the other day. He took it fully apart and cleaned it out with contact cleaner. Ill ask him wether it worked or not but I think it did because I saw him using the phone today.
contact cleaner
I've never heard of contact cleaner. I'll have to try that. After looking at this video for disassembly, it doesn't look like you can get underneath the keys. How did your co-worker do it? Pop off the keys like a laptop keyboard?
I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
About screen, but went through keyboard also ..
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I guess some older thread on how to replace Kaiser keyboard will be useful.
Found this
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Yes, I found that as well and it was not of much use. The problem is not removing the keyboard from the phone. The problem is getting underneath the keys. You can see the keyboard front/back removed from my attached image. According to this other thread #119, #126, #127 they say it is impossible to get at the keypad underneath.
I might just take a can of compressed air and spray on top of the keys as best I can to see if it helps.
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Hmmm, seems that no other way but perhaps replace the keyboard ..
You cant get under the "actual" keyboard without breaking it off the housing. The keys can be pulled off from the top, but the actual buttons are sealed below.
For what little it cost, just replace the whole thing and problems are solved. Just did my son and daughters couple weeks ago.
Im foolish I forgot to ask him about it. Thinking back he may have damaged it lol. He does kind of charge into things and then realise he cant fix it.
Agree with carhigh, just replace the whole thing. Kaiser parts not that expensive nowadays. Just need time to open it up.
I have the same problem. Tried blowing compressed air from the top, but didn't have much success with the keys. I'll probably get a new keypad and replace it!
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
Dommo said:
Sorry if this is a common question but where do people recommend getting kaiser parts? My N key and spacebar dont work without pressing it really hard and it's doing my head in!
Cheers.
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Your problem will slowly get worse. More and more keys will require extra pressure. Not sure where you could buy a replacement now (the phone is kind of old). After attempting to clean the keyboard, I gave up. I am just using onscreen keyboard program that is included in TPC's ROM. I think it is called finger keyboard. After a little practice, I am actually faster typing on that than I was with sliding the keyboard.
Try this guys - worked for me in fixing my S key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431925
Ah. Did not realize the keyboard did not come out of the housing...