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I've bought locked version of cingular SX66 some how managed to unlock the set, but I'm affraid of trying upgrade my SX66, will it be safe to upgrade after unlock? or it'll lock the set again... I've downloaded the file from siemens' site but never tried?
I have a Cingular SX66. I unlocked the phone prior to upgrading to Win 2k5. Once you upgrade, you would need to unlock your phone again with the win 2k5 unlock took found in the Wiki.
As for upgrading, I have upgraded following the Wiki to the Himalaya ROM without any problems. There are some settings you will need to change when flashing your files.
XGULA01 is the carrier code I think. You need to double check that in the forums as well. The ROM is very stable but may give you delays like when you press the Start key. Other then that, there has been no problems after upgrading.
I too have a Cingular (AT&T version). I have not unlocked my phone (not sure it ever was, but I currently don't care) and have tried both the Himalaya and Wizard versions.
I found the Wizard version to be more stable and with a few less installation headaches. You do need to create a EXTROM directory on a SD card before you upgrade, but the results are worth it.
Siemens SX66 locked??
Cingular sells these unlocked. I bought mine at a Cingular Corporate store not a reseller and it was not locked. The one my roomate bought at a different Corp store was also unlocked. We have both upgraded to the last ROM Siemens had before they removed this device from their site without issue....
I didn't want to try the Wizard version due to its lack of resolutions with MS voice command.
Can you list your updates and your programs that you got to work?
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I didn't want to try the Wizard version due to its lack of resolutions with MS voice command.
Can you list your updates and your programs that you got to work?
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I ran with the Wizard ROM for a while, but went to the Himalaya and believe it is much better. I posted a couple of my reasons in the BA Wizard ROM thread. One of them was how smooth Voice Command ran with the Himalaya ROM. There seemed to be a delay with everything using the Wizard ROM. There's a new Wizard ROM out there that I hope Mamaich can release for us to test. Maybe it will be better.
Thank u so much guys.. I'm noob and want to ask a stupid question: The WM2003 upgrade that siemens offer on their web site is either Himalaya OR Wizard? and what r the main differences between these two? do u guys recommend to upgrade to WM2005? any link for??
Regards...
I recently attempted to update the ROM in my Cingular 8125. The process stopped at 95% and I received an "Internal Error". Now, when I turn on the phone, it gets as far as the color RUU screen, and nothing else.
How can I find out if I can repair this situation myself or if I need to take it back to Cingular.
Hopefully you'll give Cingular a little more info regarding this than you gave us.
My psychic advisor is STILL on vacation so I can be of very little help to you, sorry!
What ROM were you running before and what ROM were you trying to flash it with? Did you CID unlock before you flashed?
Sorry - When I posted the 1st message, I was in a hurry...
I am not sure what ROM version was on the device before I attempted to update (I know, I should have paid attention, but I was not). The phone was new from Cingular and I had not done anything else to it besides load a couple of apps (Skype & Agile).
I attempted to run the file RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe that I downloaded from the HTC site. The update go to 95% and I received the error "ERROR [326]: INVALID COMMAND" - This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file." (I have attached a screenshot of the error to this post).
I am not sure what to do at this point.
Thanks,
Chris
Some folks at the Cingular forum are having the same issue with no solution offered.
I'd suggest putting the device into bootloader mode (Holding Record and Camera buttons while soft reseting) and then reflashing. Make sure not to launch any programs while flashing. I also don't touch the device at all as I've noticed the USB connection might slightly disconnect.
Good luck and let us know what happens.
I just tried reloading from the bootloader screen - no luck. Exact same error at 95%. Would it work to try to reload an original earlier ROM? If so, how would I go about trying that?
Chris
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I have re-downloaded the ROM file from the Cingular site (actually it just redirects to the HTC site). Same problem. I cannot get to the point to even shut down any programs because the phone OS does not even load at this point. When I do a soft reset, I get the following (sorry for the blurry image - as you can see my good phone with the good camera is dead...)
I had a similar problem. I posted the fix on another thread and ppl said i was wrong, this wasnt it...but heres what worked for me.
Are you using a usb port on the front of the computer? if so, try pluggin into the ports on the back of your computer. I tried flashing the official rom from cingular a few times using front port and it stopped at the exact same % each time. got the same thing as you, colored bars.
Someone had mentioned to me that front usb ports don't work as well as back ones. give it a try. good luck
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
Thanks to everyone for their input. From the suggestions above, I have tried various USB ports on my laptop and I always get to the same point. I have also called HTC tech support and they are pretty sure I have bricked my phone. I talked to Cingular and they have agreed to replace it. I have also researched the G4 chip issues (looked at the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56408).
Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
xtreme23 said:
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
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I second this observation! :shock:
This makes a major difference on wether or not you can even upgrade.
Search for G4 issues.
The .0001 in the IPS/SPL number will tell you which one you have.
The way I understand it is:
2.25 - G3
2.25.0001 - G4
I think this is the proper way to identify it.
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Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Chris, LokiwizMSL ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 ) can SIM Unlock your device. Be sure to read the instructions.
Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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If you installed an unofficial ROM then they are correct. You should never admit that you used a ROM that was not provided by HTC.
There are warnings all over this site about VOIDing your warranty.
Since you used the Official Update they are wrong.
Same problem with official Cingular 8125 ROM
I tried to flash the official Cingular ROM from the HTC site here:
http://www.htcamerica.net/docs/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe
I got the same error at 95%:
"Error [326]: INVALID COMMAND This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file."
When I reset the phone I get the RGB bootloader screen and nothing else.
My phone is a G4 and was running ROM version 2.25.11.1 WWE before. The reason I tried to apply this ROM is because there was apparently no Extended ROM. None of the customization cabs executed on a hard reset. Also, in Device Information, there was no "ExtROM" listed.
This is the second phone that this has happened on. I thought the first time was just a fluke thing and I had a bad phone. But now I think there is an issue with this ROM.
Anyone have any idea what is going on here with this ROM? Does the fact that there was no Extended ROM have anything to do with this ROM not flashing properly?
Is there anything else to try or do I need to try to return the phone (AGAIN)?
how to fix the problem
read this thread carefully. The upgrade problem seems to be occuring on G4 chipped Wizards with the most current IPL/SPL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
take the official update. run it, when it finishes extracting look for the extracted NBF file in your
C:\Documents and Settings\yourusernamehere\Local Settings\Temp\the newest directory just made
find the NK.NBF file
extract it using the tutorial in the post above you will be flashing with the official cingular components sans IPL/SPL.
flash it and your are back up and running
I would have posted this earlier but i had to make sure it worked and was repeatable.
I think the problem with the new update is the new IPL/SPL version checking. It seems that if the patcher sees the same version already running it will give you that error at 95%. I've seen it on 3 phones already and I have been able to fix them by doing what i've told you above. You are already in bootloader mode and your phone is ready to accept a new rom anyways. My solution may not be the best for your phone and take no responsibilites but you are already desperate and need a fix. Good Luck!
Thanks for the reply, evilito. Since I hadn't gotten any replies for a few days, I decided to go ahead and try to exchange the phone at the Cingular store. They were baffled that this was the second phone I had returned for the exact same problem, but gave me a new phone anyway. I wish now that I had waited so that I could try evilito's solution to see if it works. As it is now, I am too scared to try any flashing on this new phone after my results with the first two. I would really hate to have to try to return a third phone
Can anyone else verify that there is a problem with the latest Cingular ROM when flashing a G4? Or did I really have two bad phones?
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Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Thats good to know, I thought that when we unlocked it and updated the ROM we lost Warentee Support. Where can you get the official Cingular 2.25 ROM. I am still on 2.17.
Hi,
I used to upgrade roms all the time on my 8125 and never had a problem - until a couple of days ago. I tried installed the wm6 "most beautfiul" rom on my ppc and it bricked my phone. After many attempts I finally realized that I needed to install the official cingular 225 rom (available on the site) in order to get my phone to work. Since then I have tried downgrading to button and to wizard love with no success. My ultimate goal is to get to WM6. I have tried unlocking and have read all the threads and followed the directions but I cant switch roms. Can someone please help me with this. I am getting desperate.
thanks
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Hi,
I used to upgrade roms all the time on my 8125 and never had a problem - until a couple of days ago. I tried installed the wm6 "most beautfiul" rom on my ppc and it bricked my phone. After many attempts I finally realized that I needed to install the official cingular 225 rom (available on the site) in order to get my phone to work. Since then I have tried downgrading to button and to wizard love with no success. My ultimate goal is to get to WM6. I have tried unlocking and have read all the threads and followed the directions but I cant switch roms. Can someone please help me with this. I am getting desperate.
thanks
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do you have a G3 or G4?
What are your IPL/SPL?
Which other ROMs have you had installed on this wizard?
ecomajor said:
Hi,
I used to upgrade roms all the time on my 8125 and never had a problem - until a couple of days ago. I tried installed the wm6 "most beautfiul" rom on my ppc and it bricked my phone. After many attempts I finally realized that I needed to install the official cingular 225 rom (available on the site) in order to get my phone to work. Since then I have tried downgrading to button and to wizard love with no success. My ultimate goal is to get to WM6. I have tried unlocking and have read all the threads and followed the directions but I cant switch roms. Can someone please help me with this. I am getting desperate.
thanks
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So, you start a new thread with the same problem you posted in another thread hoping to get an answer??
My answer to you is the same one I posted to you before --
READ THE STICKY ABOUT UNLOCKING AND FOLLOW IT STEP BY STEP!!
Then -- and ONLY then -- will you be able to flash to a custom ROM.
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So, you start a new thread with the same problem you posted in another thread hoping to get an answer??
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Yep, I've replied to ecomajor's various posts in various threads and have basically given up. Very little info each time and having a problem that nobody else that has followed the steps has had.
Sorry ecomajor, don't know what else to tell you that hasn't already been said numerous times.
One Last Try -- Then, I Give UP!!
Read the following post on how to flash ANY Wizard (yes, that includes the 8125) --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1177659&postcount=1
Now, follow the directions in that post WORD FOR WORD and STEP BY STEP. The only reason it wouldn't work is that you're NOT READING and/or NOT FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS STEP BY STEP.
If you CAN'T read and follow directions, then don't be trying to flash different ROMs to your phone. If you're not willing to do what's necessary to help yourself, then noone else is willing to help you, either. . . especially when your problem has already been replied to with the same information over and over in 2 DIFFERENT THREADS now.
Let me detail you the exact steps I have taken. I have read through those posts, many times so I am certain I took those steps
1)device starts normally goto step 3.6 since unsure if unlocked.
2) read farias thread
3) download buttons rom
4)attempt to downgrade rom - failed
4a)tried 1.08 rom instead of button - failed
4b)tried wizard love- failed
5)download lokiwiz
6)followed all directions -failed - since was not able to downgrade rom.
Obviously these directions are not 100% foolproof - I know that the first time I tried installing WM6, I did not read through all the threads and after much effort I discovered that if I installed the official cingular 225 rom then I could get my ppc back working but since then I have had no luck getting flashing to work. Please tell me what I am doing wrong because noone has had my exact situation. there is no need to act all holier than thou and accuse me of not reading because since I screwed up the first time I have read through all these threads numerous times.
Ok, one more thing to try (shot in the dark, but I have no clue what is happening here)...
On your PC (its running XP, right???), do you have Firewall and/or Antivirus? If so, reboot your pc and don't start anything and then turn off your Antivirus and Firewall programs (I found a couple of threads where people were getting the error 260 when ZoneAlarm is active). Now try flashing the button rom. Don't try doing any other roms, don't try doing lokiwiz, just try to get the button rom on. If that works, then continue on with the steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
You might even try booting your computer into safemode and try flashing that way (I doubt activesync would be there, so put the phone in bootloader mode, and if you see USB above the left softkey then you should be able to flash it this way from safemode. Never tried it, but it pretty much eliminates anything that may be on your PC thats causing problems).
If none of that works, then get back to an official stock rom again and report back here with exactly what you did, what you saw, and all. Don't worry about the post being long, because to me, too much info is better than just short posts that don't tell us anything. Also, only update this thread. Forget all the other threads you have stuff going on about this problem.
Final question, I asked this before (and I don't remember if you answered or not)... Have you tried to flash your device from another PC?
And I've attached the ROM Update Utility Readme.doc that describes the error messages and how to fix them.
The weird thing is I never get code 260 with the cingular rom update just with the other roms. I will have to try the disabling all firewalls, antivirus etc at home bc at work there is all sorts of stuff i dont want to mess with. Problem if I do it in safemode is then the activesync driver wont be loaded and it will give me an error for that.
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Ok, one more thing to try (shot in the dark, but I have no clue what is happening here)...
On your PC (its running XP, right???), do you have Firewall and/or Antivirus? If so, reboot your pc and don't start anything and then turn off your Antivirus and Firewall programs (I found a couple of threads where people were getting the error 260 when ZoneAlarm is active). Now try flashing the button rom. Don't try doing any other roms, don't try doing lokiwiz, just try to get the button rom on. If that works, then continue on with the steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
You might even try booting your computer into safemode and try flashing that way (I doubt activesync would be there, so put the phone in bootloader mode, and if you see USB above the left softkey then you should be able to flash it this way from safemode. Never tried it, but it pretty much eliminates anything that may be on your PC thats causing problems).
If none of that works, then get back to an official stock rom again and report back here with exactly what you did, what you saw, and all. Don't worry about the post being long, because to me, too much info is better than just short posts that don't tell us anything. Also, only update this thread. Forget all the other threads you have stuff going on about this problem.
Final question, I asked this before (and I don't remember if you answered or not)... Have you tried to flash your device from another PC?
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ecomajor said:
The weird thing is I never get code 260 with the cingular rom update just with the other roms. I will have to try the disabling all firewalls, antivirus etc at home bc at work there is all sorts of stuff i dont want to mess with. Problem if I do it in safemode is then the activesync driver wont be loaded and it will give me an error for that.
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I've never tried it in safemode so I don't know if that will work or not, it was just an idea as we are grasping at straws here. But if you boot to safemode, and with the phone at the bootloader screen (hold down the camera button while you turn it on to get to the "rainbow" bootloader screen), if it shows USB above the left softkey then the computer and phone are communicating and Activesync does not matter. BTW:You can try the safemode way there at work as you will have no network connectivity in safemode so you don't have to worry about violating security policies.
You still have not answered my one question directly... Have you tried flashing the button rom to your phone on multiple computers? Or have you always done it from the same PC? And are the PC(s) that you are using running Windows XP?
What DOC chip does your device have? G3 or G4?
If you have a G4 then i guess you ruined your bootloader since G4 devices don't have and don't accept 1.xx IPL versions!!
I have tried button from multiple pcs. This time it gets up to 98% on button and then dies and it gives error 302 - update error for the button. This is a problem that I was having before.
Did you read the document I posted?? If you're getting Update Error 302, you're not going to be able to recover with anything other than the stock Cingular ROM.
Chances are that you did indeed ruin the bootloader when you tried using the ShellTool to flash a G3 phone. And I doubt seriously that you'll be able to do a warranty exchange if you can run the stock ROM successfully, so I'm afraid you're stuck now with the stock-shipped ROM.
So you are saying there is no way to fix the bootloader (like flashing it or soething) I was figuring I had screwed something up. I actually had read the document before but thanks for your help. Why is it that you can fix many other issues with the 8125 but not the bootloader?
I'm not saying it CAN'T be done. What I AM saying is that in the year I've been registered and active here, I've not seen any posts/threads about recovering from a bad bootloader. But that doesn't mean that there ISN'T a way to do it.
You might want to do a search of the Wizard section for bootloader error or recovering bootloader to see what might come up.
Good Luck!!
hi there,
on running k-jam_Lokiwiz02b ... i did all the instructions , after unlocking (step 1) , & rebooting
a message appeared : SIM Lock
"Data crashes..contact your service center"
i tried to install the old ROM ,, nothing happened & the same error
tried to unlock my device several times as mentioned ,, also the same error reappears every time ????
when i remove the SIM card , the ppc works normally (but not the phone of course) , tried another SIM & also no use
plz HELP
Do you have a G4 or G3 device? What ROM version do you have? We'll take it from there.
i've a G3 device 3.
installed this ROM lastly :
KJAM_ROM_1010903_103_10110_cdl_me_ship
on boating the following appears :
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
GSM 1.1.10.0
OS 1.1.9.3
up.....................
While your KJAM rom is 1.01, why don't you try using the Button ROM just to see if it makes a difference.
No clue about the SIM Lock error though. You can use lockiwiz .3 to do the SIM Unlock to see if that fixes that issue, then go back to trying the CID Unlock with .2b.
thnx for concern mfrazzz .. u mean i should try the oldest ROM available ? i tried so & no use ,,,,
i'll try .3 Lockiwz version & c ....?
i tried .3 Lockiwz version .... problem still exists
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i tried .3 Lockiwz version .... problem still exists
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Bummer... Ok, I just did a google search on your message and found this form Howard Forums:
The data crash message means that the encryption block controlling the simlock is damaged.
That should not be possible, but it apparently IS possible, because you're not the first person who's had it happen.
What I would attempt to do to recover is:
1. Take OUT the SIM card.
2. Bring up the phone in boot loader mode.
3. Reflash an official RUU that matches the phone (T-Mobile US) OR restore an SD image that matches the phone (T-Mobile US)
See if that works. If it DOES, then use the Lokiwiz again BEFORE you go screwing around with anything new. If it does NOT, then attempt the RUU to the Qtek or Imate ROM, again, with card out, and see if THAT one can be booted.
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There was no indication in the thread if this worked or not, but its something else to try.
Hope that works for you (or lets you make progress).
FYI: Here's a link to the thread Google put me in where I found this. Just do a search on "data crash" in your browser on this thread and you can read from there down (for aways). I didn't dig real far though.
http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/872974-1.html
A similar problem with solution !
i searched the forum & found that post
earljg said:
Just in case everyone is wondering what I did before I decided to pay for the IMEI and wanted to try before buying a program...
Having the 2.17 ROM installed when I started to have this problem, I first decided to try the method suggested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768
That still came up with the "Data crashes..." error with both T-Mo and Cingular SIM cards inserted. The same as the method in the above link (Lokiwiz3a, etc...).
So then I decided to try an alternative method followed by in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848
Which involves downgrading, then unlocking, then upgrading. Also with no luck on removing the "Data crashes..." error. I tried inserting my SIM after the downgrade and running Lokiwiz02b and still same error message.
Then I finally broke down and paid for the IMEI unlock program as posted in this thread (suggested by meschle, and in many other threads):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43319
If the two previous methods mentioned before the pay method do not work and you decide to pay for the IMEI unlock mentioned: PLEASE follow jt_armstrong's advice (mentioned in above post) for obtaining your phones IMEI # when ordering the program!!
Since I did it as a last resort, it was already too late for me to obtain the IMEI from my phone as the pay website suggests (dial *#06# on your phone). This is due to when I insert my SIM the "Data crashes..." message comes up and there is no way I could obtain my IMEI without looking at the label behind my battery.
All is well now after running the $38 program. I finally realized (with the help of the previous posters, and other threads in this great forum!!) I have exhausted all other options.
Unless you can wait for someone to come up with a definitive solution to this rare (from what I have read) problem, I highly recommend using IMEI unlocking program. I have been trying to find a solution for about 5 days in the forums and this was my last resort...
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will the IMEI unlock program work with my Imate kjam ?
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i have recently bought a htc p4300. it came with wm5 and as u can tell from the title im tryin to upgrade. i have unlocked the cid using m3000v4unlock from a website. i was told that i have to use it since i have a g4. i have used three different roms for this and all it says after about ten seconds of the upload bar is: error 300, update tool somthing. my goal is to upgrade my phone to an extremely stable wm6 on an american tmobioile network. can anyone lend me a hand. i really need help. also, if anyone can hook me up with a seriously detailed install readme file with the software that would be great.
shastri said:
i have recently bought a htc p4300. it came with wm5 and as u can tell from the title im tryin to upgrade. i have unlocked the cid using m3000v4unlock from a website. i was told that i have to use it since i have a g4. i have used three different roms for this and all it says after about ten seconds of the upload bar is: error 300, update tool somthing. my goal is to upgrade my phone to an extremely stable wm6 on an american tmobioile network. can anyone lend me a hand. i really need help. also, if anyone can hook me up with a seriously detailed install readme file with the software that would be great.
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Can't you just read the "How to flash a new ROM to your Wizard... a little tutorial!" sticky ?
C'mon, is it that hard ?
i did read the tutorial. but when i put it in tricolor and i use the software to unlock it, it works. then i have to restart the phone, and i open the upgrade software and run the ruu. but when i do it i get to a screen that saws" 300 error" i dont know if in doing it wrong or if its the software im usng