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8125 w/G4 Rom -how to get rid of stock 2.25 rom?

Hi, i've been looking and reading now for a couple days looking at comments and stuff on those with the newer 8125 G4 chipsets. I can't find a dedicated thread on how to switch it to another rom. I would like to use summiters test2 rom. I had this installed on another 8125 which i returned a couple days ago as the screen had a blimish on it. Too bad as I did downgrade and do everything following the guidelines for it and it worked great. I've seen threads pointing to other threads on the G4's but it seems like people get off topic or don't post what worked and what didn't work. Anyway, if i'm just missing it would someone kindly point me to the right thread or maybe use this thread to post the way it's done currently. I've read you can't go below the 2.xx but what rom's can you use? The main reason I want to put another rom on is the constant locking up. When I had summiters on the other unit it ran perfectly. I have the 2.25.0001 IPL/SPL when it first boots up so i know that's the G4. Thanks for reading......
J

From what people have said, there's a query as to whether or not the CID/SIM unlock on a G4 chipset can be done. That's your major problem.
What I can say for certain, is that if anyone is developing a G4 solution, that would be machinagod. Search for his posts... and see if a tool LokiwizMSL0.3a will do the trick for you. To do this, search for all posts by machinagod, and you'll find a thread on lokiwizMSL which apparently states it works for 2.xx spl's.
BTW, don't forget to enablerapi.cap =) don't say i didn't warn you.

thanks....I looked up machinagod's stuff the other day when looking thru the forums....I guess until I see someone's reply that says thier 8125 with the 2.25.0001 has been changed to ?? rom i'll wait. I get that you can sim unlock the unit if you have another sim to use but after that there is some confusion as to what to do. It would be nice if someone knows exactly what steps to take and all. What options are avail for this G4 unit when you sim unlock it and even pay to cid unlock it if that is necessary. I would just like to use a different rom than Cingulars 2.25 as my unit keeps locking up....mostly after a call but also when browsing on the net. It has locked up using IE and Opera. I called Cingular this morning and the guy said they are upgrading the towers here in So. Florida and people have been complaining about dropped calls and thier phones locking up. Mine though locks even when not on a call...I asked him if they had any "older" new phones but he said he wasn't sure so guess i'll just keep plugging along and reading and hope to find a thread explaining the solution. Thanks again!
J

What we're all not sure of is the address differences between the G3 and G4 chipsets.
One thread, which I cannot recall right now, did detail a way to go from a G4 stock rom to a summiter rom, but I am not sure where it is here, nor what to search for amongst the thousands of threads. My suggestion might be to search for anything that has like '.0001' or 'g4 spl' in it. That might narrow your fields down. Also setting the search to things such as 'posts' instead of threads, that will help. Narrowing the field even further, you can specify the wizard to forum threads, or the wizard upgrading forum threads. I'd stick to the upgrading threads for g4 issues, as for unlocks and such, that machinagod usually posts that in the general wizard forum.

thanks man for the reply....I downloaded the rom from HTC just to reflash and see if maybe it might help with the locking problem somewhat...um, well, it got to 95% complete and an error popped up saying something about the nb file was bad....so, it was looped i guess in the boot screen....turned it off and on only to have that screen come up...tried to reconnect, which it did and started to reflash and again it stopped at 95% after using a new downloaded rom...the same 2.25 from HTC that is...oh well, took it back to the store and got a new one...still has the .0001 on it so will do some more searching and reading and will wait for a viable fix...not gonna be in a hurry if it runs without locking up....call sounds seem to be better i've noticed but that could just be wishful thinking...oh well...thanks again!
J

T-Mobile MDA Question

I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance

it's first time for everything mate. now start searching for the first time.

If you absolutely have to update it and you have no idea what you're doing, go to t-mobile's web site and download the official 2.26 update. At least then you'll have some defense if it goes sour. In the meantime, there's a ton of information already here, it's not all that hard to find and, not to be smart but no one is going to hold your hand, press the buttons for you and take the blame when you flash the wrong thing and fry your expensive new toy. Personally, I use T-mobile's official 2.26 release because it works quite well and I don't have to worry about voiding the warrantee.

SO if you had your 8125 tricked-out then how do you not know what or how to do this to your MDA Vario?
I mean they're basically the same device except for some minor cosmetics.
If you had the 8125 how you liked it just do the same to the MDA.

Bu11D0z3r said:
I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance
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Congrats man I love my mda and T-mobile has been good to me thus far but as for as roms you should do the your homework and use the search. Try a few different ones till you find one that suits you best. Good Luck

I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.

Bu11D0z3r said:
I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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It's not flaming, just imagine how many people come to this forum the first day asking the same question. There's no answer to your question as what was already said.
The 8125 is the same as the MDA, the T-mob ROM mentioned is the basis for most of all modified ROM's in this post and for you the safest.
If you use this, it is the latest, try this one first, instal your stuff, backup with spb or sprite, then read thru the posts and see if there is something you could use or do.
I even went back to the 2.26, the Molski one with 30mb RAM free.
Again do what's suggested go to the T-mob site and download/install th update. The flaming is only to stop you from being the next one on forum with: "Help I bricked my MDA.........."

http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/Software_Detail.cfm?ID=80
Is the one.

Bu11D0z3r said:
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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Well, actually there is one thing more annoying: Someone who is too lazy to do their own research!
Now back to the serious...
Meaningless questions like "What should I put on my phone" can't be answered by anyone here. First you need to ask yourself some basic questions such as:
What are you looking to do with your phone?
What function is most important to you?
How much performance are you willing to give-up to achieve this?
Which is more important to you Battery life or speed?
And the list goes on...
Dude, you just need to think about this and ask yourself not others.
Now if you asked something like" I want to be able to see everything that I have coming up on my calender in the next month on my today screen, which program handles this the best?" you will several helpful answers but first you need to define that feature you are looking for.
Just asking "What is the best Rom" or "Which programs should I install" makes you look lazy, stupid or both.
While we're at it, your Thread Title "T-Mobile MDA Question" is useless. It doesn't give the reader any hint of what the question is. The Thread title really should have the basic question in it like "I'm looking for advice on Calendar Today Plug-ins". This will at least allow those who couldn't care less about Today Plug-ins for the calendar to skip your thread while attracting the attention of those who have extensive experience and knowledge of such plug-ins because they share at least one of your goals with their phone use.

I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.

RikR said:
I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.
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Upgrading doesn't relock (either SIM or CID) your device.

In that case, I'll do my first ROM upgrade!
Thanks

i've T-mobile also But one problem..i can't open it.....want security code .......anyone tell me how i got security code??????????????????

The T-mobile rom install was smooth, no problems. Only took about 10 minutes.

Dont think it will but even if it does all you have to do is unlock it again. Not a big deal

CDMA Harrier Upgrade, is possible ?

Hello pals,
I have a Audiovox Harrier PPC 6600 with Wm2003SE,
is possible to upgrade the OS to WM5 or WM6 ?
Please, im desperate to upgrade this.
Sorry if someone has answered this question in another thread.
Best Regards.
Anderson

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I have a Audiovox Harrier PPC 6600 with Wm2003SE,
is possible to upgrade the OS to WM5 or WM6 ?
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In a word, no.
Sorry if someone has answered this question in another thread.
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Not to be an arse about it, but it's obvious that you did no research on this question before posting. A search of the forums would have shown you the thread located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=244441&highlight=CDMA+Harrier+wm5
You might get more results if you at least look first. If you have looked, you didn't state it and your post sounded like you couldn't be arsed enough to look.
Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to make a point that many people seem to have problems grasping.

I've searched the forums many times, and I would still post the question from time to time if others didn't just to be sure someone didn't just discover something.
I personally would like to know if there is a Harrier CDMA upgrade to WM5 or WM6 that forgoes the the radio, or if someone has tried to use the radio "drivers" out of a 6700 (Apache) to any degree of sucess. In my research, I've seen the idea floated, but I'm not sure how deeply the situation has been probed.
I do appreciate the work Helmi and others do, and I simply want to know if there is any update on this front.

Guys, does a harrier get completely bricked if it is upgraded to WM6 or does it just lose its radio/phone functionality? The reason I ask is I am a Kaiser user but I have my old Verizon Harrier that I'd like to make use of its gorgeous 3.5" display for movies while in the car (very safe, I know).
I'm on ATT now, so no more Verizon. I'd be using this device strictly for its PDA functionality.
I realize I can just use TCPMP on the wm2003 OS as is, but i figured there were some chefs that had done some pretty sweet roms for the device. Heck, I don't even need WM6, I'll just take the best Rom, regardless of which winmo version.
I know in the kaiser forums, duttythroy is pretty much the heavyweight chef. Is there a similar heavyweight rom or chef that everyone tends to lean towards on the harrier/BA? I spent about 15 mins doing some searches and reading Wikis but honestly couldn't find any info on harrier cooked roms.

It is now possible that Harrier could be hacked.
Unfortunately, the HTC CDMA hacking community has moved on. The HTC encryption on the ROM wasn't broken until after Harrier was long discontinued.
And, with new devices sporting gpsOne and EV-DO Rev A, there are now clear technical advantages to modern devices.
Ideally, HTC would have done the right thing and kept supporting older models. But, you already know that...

I don't care about the radio on the Harrier
As the previous poster mentions...Can I slap a Blue Angel ROM on my Harrier if I don't care about the radio? It would be a great 2nd device if I could get WM5 or WM6 on it. Again...I don't need (nor want) the CDMA radio on it to work.
Thanks.

no sir, tried myself, almost bricked phone DO NOT DO IT.

Please help with radio question (yes Ive read wikis)

OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!

Shinare said:
OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!
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1. the radio you have is a WM6.0 radio. It will NOT work with WM6.1 which is what the rom you mentioned is.
2. You definitely need to get HardSPL flashed first. Not jumpslp. ONLY HARDSPL.
3. The video issue for me is minimal if that. I use Coreplayer and the video playback is perfectly fine.
4. The camera will always be weak. Nothing you can do about that without HTC fixing. it.
Hope that answered all you questions.

some rom's only work with some radio's (i think dutty includes compatible roms usually)
the cooked roms are faster than the standard rom so i wouldn't worry about the driver issue (that might be solved real soon anyway)

Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.

OK, question again (sorry) but in Dutty's WM6.0 ROM there is this question and answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361544
Q: I can’t hear any sound after flashing. When I make phone calls I can’t hear the other person either.
A: You need to use a NON-ATT radio. 12.32 is a proven radio. You can find them on the ftp as well.
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Does this mean I can change the radio version and be able to use one of the newer ROMs? I'm just worried that Dutty's WM6 ROM is from January which is older than the Feb. HTC AT&T Tilt Rom I got from the HTC website.
Maybe I should wait since I read the post about new video drivers for HTC phones that should make the phone work better?
Sorry for the confusion.

Radio
1. Yes radios are interchangble
2. Some roms are compatible only with certain types of radios
2. A chef might or might not include a compatible radio. Best is to check in the specific rom thread

Shinare said:
Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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You don't need to look for a rom that is compatible with your radio. You can find a 6.1 rom that includes a compatible radio. There are many on this site

Shinare said:
Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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WHOA, I think you misunderstood. If you want a 6.1 rom, you just need a 6.1 compatible radio. To make this as painless as possible, I suggest you find a 6.1 rom with the radio included, such as Dutty & Laurentius. Good luck.

It's all in the links you linked and in plain english, but still hard to understand.
These are the ones that are for WM6.1 roms (as mentioned on each listing). You will need to mix and match to see which works best for you and your area. I hope this gives you a better understanding of how to read this. It all came out of the last link you posted..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.25.14
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.26.20
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.06.04
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
There are reports that this radio doesn't allow the phone to reset. You have to reset the phone using the stylus.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.08.21
This UK radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
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Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. The Radio FAQ says the 1.64.08.21 radio is the best for GPS and best for battery life but has to be used with WM6.1. But it says it is "UK". OK, so I went into that thread and, sparse as it is, people are saying it is a "vodaphone" and "UK" radio. Does this mean that it will only work in the UK with whatever "vodaphone" service? I live in the US and have AT&T service.
So, from what I've learned so far, it looks like I need to get Dutty's hybrid WM6.1 [Apr 29] (I'm assuming hybrid means the radio ROM 1.65.14.06 is included), thats a WWE radio (whatever that means). Because the radio 1.64.08.21 is for the UK I cant use it in the US (another assumption on my part).
So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am.
I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.

Shinare said:
Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. .
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You don't HAVE TO find a rom with a radio in it. You have access to all of the radios. Find the rom you like, if it happens to not have the proper radio, then you now know where to get ALL of the 6.1 radios. After that test each one if you can't decide which is best.
Shinare said:
So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am..
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It should, but sometimes things don't go the way they are supposed to. Rest assured someone has documented your problem and searching it out will save you.
Shinare said:
I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.
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As with any noob, I think your fear of the situation blinds you of the obvious. These wikis (as dry as they are) are extremely straight forward. If you start with the understanding that they provide everything you need then you will understand more. I hope.

OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.

Shinare said:
OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.
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It's all in the wiki info for flashing roms.
Q: What is a Radio ROM?
A: The Radio ROM contains the drivers for the communication devices of your phone. Some ROM’s need one or more specific Radio ROM’s to work properly. Usually the chef, who created the ROM recommends a Radio ROM. But don’t mind, if your Radio Rom does not match, you can always flash another without needing to flash the ROM containing the Operating System (OS) again.
You can check the version of your Radio ROM when you click Start > Settings > System > Device Information or booting your device (there will appear three lines of red text. The Radio ROM version is the number after the R:.
You can download Radio ROM's at the xda-developers FTP-Server in the Uploads/Kaiser/Radio-Folder. Username and password are both 'xda'. To install it, download, extract and execute it. Then follow the instructions on your screen. Flashing a Radio does not delete any files on your device's ROM.
To choose the perfect Radio ROM for you check this thread.
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EDIT** sorry I was in a hurry to get this out and it didn't make sense.
Um doesn't it look like more then just the radio? For instance
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
If it was just the radio (as you say) then it would be listed like this
1.58.21.23
Seems like what you just said wasn't there, was there..
I honestly think people are mentally blinded by their fear of the unknown.

i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one

OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one
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And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.

Well first of all, lol you're going to hate me, you should have read the only sticky in the roms forum. When I saw that you linked the GWENI post I assume (yes I know what that means) that it was..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
That faq/gweni that tells you everything you need to know.
Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
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They are the different phones listed on the main forum page (like you had to pick the kaiser phone as the one you wanted) and they are listed in the wiki.
It tells you they were taken from a polaris phone.. It's english.. What else do you want, the frequecy, ohms, etc that it transmits at? There really isn't much more to tell about this specific radio.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
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How hard is it to give someone the answer, literally paste answers they could have found on their own and then deal with them *****ing about it?
Did I just tell you to go read something? No I told you the answer and showed you where it was. I tracked down everything. How did I know where it was? Because I can read english.. This is not the OH LETS HELP THE NOOB site. This is the let the noob help himself site.
Noobs need to understand this place is a library for people interested in XDA gadgets (mainly htc branded) and in a library you can't just walk in and yell out. HELP ME, and then have **** downloaded right into your mind.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Why are you sorry, you got every bit of knowledge you needed? What is your freakn deal?
I hope you enjoyed your spoon feeding. You won't get anymore from me.

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Here, let me help you swallow this.
Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!eek:
Shinare said:
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!

Shinare said:
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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" Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime." end of story.

TMOTouch Pro 2 Radio 3.45.25.14 on Touch HD

I have searched both google and this forum and have not found any relevant information so I am hoping someone might know the answer to this. I have the Touch HD in NYC working on Tmobile with no 3G service. It appears that Tmobile now has the Touch Pro 2 with 3G service. I called Tmobile and they confirmed that it has the 1700/2100 bands. I then called HTC and was told that the radio can/may unlock the needed bands to run on Tmobiles high speed service. So....has anyone tried this? The radio version for the Tmobile Touc Pro 2 is 3.45.25.14 but I cant find it available anywhere to give it a try. Maybe it's lucky I didnt find it as I dont really know the effect it would have on my phone.
So....any thoughts?

OK. I now found a tmobile test version shipped with radio 3.44.25.17
I figured since noone seems to want to take the time to answer I would
just see what I can figure out.
Using NBHextract I was able to get to, from what I can assess is the radio file,
02_GSM.nb
I then found another program that supposedly should help to create a new nbh file with just the radio. I followed the instructions including a text file with the following inside:
Blackstone
00000000
3.44.25.14
USA
300,02_GSM.nb (I do not know if 300 is correct for the HD)
It did create an NBH file, when I tried to run it all I got was an error code "0058002"
I have no idea what the error code means and I do not know what else I can do to try and make this work.
Anyone have any suggestions as to where I might have gone wrong?
Is it just that you cannot use the radios interchangeably between the 2 devices??

bugdeyez said:
noone seems to want to take the time to answer
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You should read that first :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521206 (sticky on this forum)
Where you find that :
Security Unlock lets you flash radios from other devices... technically speaking you can flash any radio, but some will brick it (such as Topaz) - however, Diamond, Raphael and Kovsky should all be fine. It can also be an insurance policy against evil radios - people who had the Kaiser radio from hell will know what I mean.
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as CaiCai says you will need security unlock your HD.
this will cost you £10 gbp read the thread, as you have minimal posts.
Please also be aware this isn't a helpdesk, if you ask a question there's no guarantee it's going to be answered with your 1st 1 1/2 hour of asking
I'd suggest trying some patience, some people actually do have a life away from this forum, I know it doesn't appear that way sometimes, but we do try to escape the cords that bind us..
Personally I cant see how unless they included the hardware to enable the extra frequencies it could possibly work how you want. But I can hex edit the radio after you've done security unlock.
If you read this very forum there is a thread on radios, in fact there's two.

CaiCai: thanks for your straight forward answer and info. I will look into the things you suggested.
Fards:
If I am reading into your post incorrectly, forgive me, but I just sense as if your response has a tinge of attitude. You are absolutely right, i am impatient. However I was not disrespectful about it. I just explained my experience with the methods i tried in attempting to apply the new radio.
That being said, the two radio threads from what ive read, dont address this kind of question. I will reread them to be sure. In regards to your statement about the phone not having the physical capability to work on those bands, there are some people that have postulated that it may be more of a low level programming issue. Also as I said I spoke to someone at HTC and he said it is possible for a radio to allow a phone to work on additional frequencies.
Thanks for your suggestions also. I will look into unlocking the phone as you suggested. I was under the impression I had already done that, but as you see, I am still relatively new to this. Ive been around for over a yr and half, just not many posts. Also, how would hex editing the radio file help in the inatallation of it? I havent heard any references made to that before.
Thanke again fpr taking the time to respond.

As stated previously by others you need to security unlock your device first. Info on this is available here. Radio's from other devices which are known to work on the HD with this security unlock can be found here. Once your device is security unlocked it will state 'Security unlocked' along the top of bootloader screen.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17, I don't believe has been tried on the HD before, it may work with this security unlock, but it may not. Some radio's from other devices can still brick your device even when you use security unlock, so do this at your own risk.
As fards stated, try and be patient and don't go trying things unless you are 100% certain. Read up on everything first. Myself and others will always try to help when online. If unsure of anything, you can always PM me.
Ta
Rick

Rick, thanks for the info. I know people ask the same questions over and over and it can get annoying. There is just such a wealth of information on here that sometimes it definitely is possible to get lost in it all. I really appreciate all the help i get, especially when it is packed in such a friendly tone.
The radio you mention 3.44.25.17
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Ideally, I am looking for radio 3.45.25.17
I havent found it as of yet found it. That 3.44
was from a test rom for the TMO touch pro 2.
I have the raw files from the TMO TP2 but from
what ive read, you cant make a radio installer from
a rom dumped from a phone. You need the ruu-signed.nbh file.
Thanks a lot.

theres a good chance that the radio will still need hex editing, if you read the threads about radio unlocking it's mentioned in both of them.
It's not hard to do at all, it just needs one section changing
me attitude.. noo never ..

Thanks guys for directing me to the right locations. I think the problem was I was searching with my terms being too specific. Looking for exactly that radio on the HD. Anyway, I will be bringing up the same issue here for anyone that would like to follow how it plays out.
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I guess you can delete this if you would like.

Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, they will kill it.

wat a shame. Very disappointing. Well, maybe they will come out with another winmo 3G phone soone to help me out. Thanks everyone for your responses.

If Olipro states Rhodium radios are not compatible with the HD, and they will kill it. Then I would believe him. Unfortunate though
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