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Since the 'Report Real Problems' thread about Faria's AKU 3.2 ROM has just about stopped making any sense I thought I would start a new one specifically regarding this memory 'leak' issue.
I have a G3 QTEK 9100, I have installed Faria's 8MB AKU 3.2 ROM. I initially had the wake-up issues but I think I have worked around these. The issue I am seeing is the Program Memory gradually decreasing. After a soft-reset the phone shows about 19MB of free Program Memory. Without doing anything other than answer phone calls it will decrease to about 12MB after a day. After 2-days it goes to about 8Mb and now the 3rd day (in the morning) it tells me 7.4MB.
I am not loading any applications what so ever, just answering the phone. It is sat in a cradle connected via USB to my PC so all it is running is ActiveSync. I have two applications installed - TomTom 6 and MS PocketStreets 2006, neither of which have been started since it was soft reset 3-days ago.
Can anyone explain this memory leakage
Oh, there we go again - 7.3MB
Thanks
Andy
Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.
Good, sort of, at least it's not just me......
It is now 13:20 UK time and if I am to believe it, it reckons now only 5.9MB of program memory is free. It is now showing signs of slowing down, refreshing the screen is taking time, going to Start Settings and then hitting the close 'X' is now pausing
I am going to restrain myself from soft-resetting it until it comes to some sort of conculsion...........
Andy
I think I am going to have to soft reset it now, its getting just too unresponsive
Storage
Total: 47.46MB
In Use: 13.64MB
Free: 33.83MB
Program
Total: 44.01MB
In Use: 39.40MB
Free: 4.61MB
I have made 2 calls and received 2 since I last posted and I am now down to 4.6MB.
Does anyone think a re-flash or a hard-reset is likely to fix anything? As I said I only have TomTom6 and MS Pocket Streets 2006 installed in addition to the stuff included with the extended ROM from Faria?
Thanks
Andy
My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront
I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy
ADB100 said:
I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy
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Good luck...let us know the results.
Kirby
how is it after hard reset?
My G4 with 12MB ROM is ok
... run TomTom6, Exchange push email, Today agenda plug-in, bluetooth handsfree and make/take 20+ calls a day
It never seems to go below 10MB
I will see if I can 'make' it.
dim4x4 said:
how is it after hard reset?
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I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy
ADB100 said:
I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy
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one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
pencilcase said:
Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.
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Pencilcase - do you have the Wizard connected to a PC for long periods? I am trying to see whether it might just be the fact that it is connected to my PC for the majority of the time - sat in a cradle with ActiveSync running continuously.
Do many people leave their Wizard connected to a PC (with ActiveSync running) for most of the day?
Andy
faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy
ADB100 said:
Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy
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This is a very good question. I run version 4.5 beta on my PC but can't find anywhere on the Activesync on the phone where it would tell you what version it is.
Kirby
faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?
vseehua said:
you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?
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Thats my guess wonder which one it is?
Kirby
Then i shall try disabling Active Sync client within my Wizard to see how it goes...
rkwhyte2 said:
My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront
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I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio
peraltah said:
I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio
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I know that there has been some discussion about the radio. Let us know what you come up with.
Kirby
I have not connected the Wizard to my PC for a day and guess what? the free program memory has stayed constant at around 9.3MB.....
Can anyone else confirm leaving your Wizard connected to a PC with ActiveSync running causes the free program memory to gradually decrease?
I am running Faria's AKU 3.2 8MB ROM and English ActiveSync 4.2 on my PC.
Thanks
Andy
I love that ROM but unfortuntely the memory leak is severe for me - just want to know how many people are experiencing that issue??
How much free RAM do u have after a soft reset and how much after running for 1 day?
I have around 17MB after reset (with not much more than the built in apps - just GPRS Monitor and SIMName running additionally) but that drops to less than 10MB within a day or even a few hours of usage!!
17MB free after soft reset; down to about 12MB after a day.
No good for me, with Voice Command and emoze taking over 3MB. My minimum target is 15MB free and stable with both of those loaded, so for the moment I've switched back to a previous Molski ROM.
just made a test: if I leave my Wizard powered on (prevent standby) the RAM drops around 3MB per hour without even touching the device...
[EDIT] have to correct it - running for 1h now and it went down from 17 to 12MB - so 5MB per h... [/EDIT]
new finding: if I take out my miniSD card I get another 4-5MB!! now I have 22 after soft reset - will see whether it still drops so fast...
I remember to have read something about storage cards taking up RAM but forgot what - does it depend on the card/the formatting options etc.??
However, it still doesn't solve the leaking problem... :-(
DoctorT said:
new finding: if I take out my miniSD card I get another 4-5MB!! now I have 22 after soft reset - will see whether it still drops so fast...
I remember to have read something about storage cards taking up RAM but forgot what - does it depend on the card/the formatting options etc.??
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I believe so... we should be waiting for an expert s advice before deleting any reg keys or reformat our SD cards...
Odd, I have no mem issues at all
with everything in the rom, plus voice command 1.6 and remote display, I have 15 meg free. And it stays that way. Have not reset my phone in two days. Cingular 8125 G4 device. And yes, I have an SD card as well.
i would say that its stable with me too, dont have that much running, i dont know some of them like elatepushservice, sapsettings, but with 19 processes in task manager, stay around 14 mbs mostly, it seems to drop low sometime with browsing texting but goes back to 14 or more... i might be wrong here but could it be the installation procedure, i followed dr p method, then added molskis 3.0 then the 3.3... i am still figuring out stuff, mostly a reader than a poster...
I woke up this morning w/ only 2MB!
I have a G3 8125 and here's my install:
3.3 v1 installed on top of the Cingular 2.25.11 IPL/SPL
Upgraded TodayAgenda to v0.9.22 using the install, uninstall, re-install method
Upgraded to BatteryStatusExt.1.04.beta2
Installed DaylightSavings.cab
Usage:
Yesterday, my friend accidentally ran the UK_Jersey_Telecom auto-config
I was trying to set up MMS for Fido (still doesn't work but I no longer receive error messages either)
Voice Dialing
Other Symptoms:
I've also noticed that my date keeps on going haywire. keeps on going 18h 20mins ahead.
I have verified that no other programs are running in the background but on occasion when I check, I see ActiveSync (I use ActiveSync 4.2).
Might try V2 on Tmobile 2.26 when I get the time and see how goes.
Tsuioku said:
I woke up this morning w/ only 2MB!
I have a G3 8125 and here's my install:
3.3 v1 installed on top of the Cingular 2.25.11 IPL/SPL
Upgraded TodayAgenda to v0.9.22 using the install, uninstall, re-install method
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Remove TodayAgenda.
On my Wizard, using the 3.3 ROM, TodayAgenda (both version 0.9.20 and 0.9.22) loose appx. 1.5MB RAM per hour.
Without TodayAgenda I see no memory loss at all.
andersh said:
Remove TodayAgenda.
On my Wizard, using the 3.3 ROM, TodayAgenda (both version 0.9.20 and 0.9.22) loose appx. 1.5MB RAM per hour.
Without TodayAgenda I see no memory loss at all.
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Just upgraded to V2 (6MB ver) and memory availability seems a lot better. Running for two days and only lost 5MB (which is much better than losing 15MB in 12hrs). The combination of embedded TodayAgenda upgraded to 9.22 may have been the culprit. I currently have V2 with 9.22 installed and it seems quite stable.
The current memory loss seems to be caused by certain programs/functions not releasing memory when closed/disabled. I still notice ActiveSync running in the background out of the blue. I was just playing with wifi and noted a 1.5mb drop in memory when enabling but it does not return after disabling. I will update this post as I see more possible causes.
For those who installed SPB PocketPlus: for me most probably SPB PocketPlus caused a leak - I just found out with the WM6 ROM, so might be the same with AKU3.3! I also had a leak with WM6 before (although not as serious as on AKU3.3) and now with the same config as before except PocketPlus I don't experience it anymore!!
Regarding the large mount of RAM taken by the storage card (I know it's not a leak, but anyways): this did the trick on WM6 (before took 4MB, now 0.2MB), so might be the same on AKU3.3:
change the FATFS cache size back to 0 (most tweaks change that, but anyway I didn't realize a slow down of the device after changing it back to that factory default):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\StorageManager\FATFS]
"CacheSize"=dword:00000000
Tsuioku said:
The combination of embedded TodayAgenda upgraded to 9.22 may have been the culprit. I currently have 9.22 installed and it seems quite stable.
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I noticed a huge memory leak in TodayAgenda running:
a) 3.3 beta ROM with embedded 0.9.20
b) 3.3 beta ROM with upgrade to 0.9.22
c) WM6 beta (both the clean version and pdaviet) with 0.9.22
So if you're not seeing a memory leak, my guess is that the memory leak is depending on a specific configuration option inside TodayAgenda.
I think I have a reverse memory leak....lol mine went from @ start 3.34 to 20.57 MB after 1-2 hrs....
Seriously though, just wanted to chime in and say I don't have any issues....before this ROM I was running Crossbow for a little bit and before that I was using a custom home brew...
Applications Installed:
Simbsoft Volleyball
vijay555 VJSlippyPalm
PalmThreadedSMS
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Ilium Software eWallet
Dr.Shultz Smart Dial+Eten skin RUS
TomTom Navigator 6
Spb Backup
Meschle calendar month view tweak
Resco Explorer
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-Plugin
andersh said:
I noticed a huge memory leak in TodayAgenda running:
a) 3.3 beta ROM with embedded 0.9.20
b) 3.3 beta ROM with upgrade to 0.9.22
c) WM6 beta (both the clean version and pdaviet) with 0.9.22
So if you're not seeing a memory leak, my guess is that the memory leak is depending on a specific configuration option inside TodayAgenda.
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Oops... skipped a thought there.. I meant to say V2 with 9.22 installed. There's still some leak but I wouldn't blame it completely on TodayAgenda yet. The leak is lower now and less significant with extra ram being available in V2. I find certain programs/functions not releasing RAM when closed/disabled to be a bigger issue (ie. enabling then disabling Wifi, voice dialing etc)
@lvlolvlo: That sounds about right. Even though it appears as if the phone is done loading, there are still some processes running in the background. Wait a few minutes for the processes to release the ram and you'll see a big jump.
how about download the memoryleak cab and install it
paypalbid said:
how about download the memoryleak cab and install it
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Where can I find this cab? Is it designed for TodayAgenda? I tried doing a search and skimmed through some threads from the last couple of months and didn't see anything. From what I have read, most people are pointing at ActiveSync (I am running 4.5 Beta at home) or TodayAgenda.
On avg, I need to reset my phone every 5 days or so. While this is not a huge issue, I'm curious as to what may be causing it.
What you guys can also try doing is getting SK Tools and using the free up ram feature on there. i have that on my phone even thou i hover around 20 mbs with wisbar, ilauncher, and pocket breeze on there and also rltoday. It'll get me back like 3 mbs when i do that. but i think it would really help you guys.
I have tried to transfer file from my nokia phone via bluetooth to my xdaIIs with Windows mobile 6.1. But the sending process always fail. I search to this forum and i have upgrade the radio into version 1.13 and download the broadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900 but it also doesn'work . When i tap to the link Bluetooth Manage it shows error like this "The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insuffient driver memory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."
Is there anybody can help me to fix this problem so i can receive file via bluetooth ?
i had that problem once. first of all, you don't necessarily need a new radio rom or the broadcom bluetooth stack to get it to work. all you need to do, is clen up your device, like the message says, there is not enough ram available for the driver to load, because your device is stuffed. you should have a look into "remove programs" and in the task manager, whether there are just too many programs installed and/or running.
you might also want to consider performing a hard reset to clean your device, you can simply sync your device afterwards to get the pim data back and install your commonly used programs again. you will see, that although nothing has changed in the data and programs, the device will run faster, more stable and bluetooth will work again. after all, each installation, uninstallation, everything that passed through the device leaves trash anywhere.
of course that is not supposed to mean, that either a higher radio or the broadcom stack are bad, you can install whatever you want, i just don't think it will help you in this case.
and make sure that, when you want to receive a file, you turn both bluetooth and beam on and make the device visible, then there should be no problem finding and pairing the phones and transferring files.
with best regards
Chef_Tony
I have checked my main memory the condition is
Total Memory in
Storage Total 42.92Mb , In use : 17.19 Mb , Free : 25.72Mb
Program Total 99.93 Mb, In Use : 41.96 Mb , Free : 57.97 MB
in which memory should I freed ? Is it in the storage or program ?
how should i remove the data from the storage to the SD ?
mmh, that does not look too full, still, i wonder what your device uses 42mb of ram for. plus, apparently you didn't resize the extrom, because storage total should be 60.30mb.
but both those things shouldn't influence the bluetooth behaviour. still i would perform a hard reset, then your device is clean and ready to use. depending on how long it's been since your last hard reset, who knows, what broke the bluetooth.
and after the hard reset, without installing anything, try the bluetooth again. if by then it does not work, you know there is something wrong, either with the rom or the radio, but i doubt that. as mentioned before, i used to have that problem in wm2003, and it was due to too many installed programs and too much stuff running in the background. i can't tell you, how the values were, but it does not matter whether you think the device is full, as long as the bluetooth driver does, it won't start.
but apart from that, man i tend to get off-topic sometimes...
your actual question was, which memory to free. since the error message is about ram, it would be program memory (i know the driver is not taking up 60mb).
moving files from the storage to the storage card is generally not such a good idea. when it comes to photos or mp3s or videos, of course you should move them, but 17mb of used space is really not much, probably a few installed programs there, and those should not be moved, since their paths are stored in the registry and maybe, they wouldn't work anymore afterwards.
ok, this was a long answer with no real advice. i say back up your files, look, whether you have all the cabs of your programs, sync your device, perform a hard reset and then you'll see.
just my 2 cents.
with best regards
Chef_Tony
To Chef_Tony, I have upgraded my Windows Mobile Into 6.5 version d-two version. But the Bluetooth connection still can't receive files from other handphone. But strangely it can transfer file to other phone. Is it my bluetooth receiver broken ?
when you want to receive files, you have to check Beam, you must activate "accept all incoming file transfers". that should do the trick. beam is actually IrDA and should be independant from BT, but it isn't when it comes to file transfers
thx a lot,chef_tony. after i downloaded xplode's rom file it can receive files from bluetooth.
the problem now is xplode's window media player can't play the WMV files. Can you help me how to fix this one ?
there is 2 possibilities:
either, you take a completely different media player (c'mon, nobody uses wmp! ), you could have a look at tcpmp for example. since you want to play videos, tcpmp is probably the best player for you. it is free, small in size and plays any format out there, kinda link vlc on the pc, it plays avi, mp4, wmv, mpeg, mkv, 3gp......... and also all the audio formats, like mp3, mp4, wma, flac, aac, ogg........ that would certainly be a good option.
or you search your rom's thread whether someone else experienced similar problems, if not, contact xplode or write that in his rom's thread, since he cooked the rom, he'll surely know the bugs and what to do against them. make sure to write as much detail as possible, you should write, what exact build you're using, when the problem is experienced, what exact model of blueangel you have and what exact codec the stuff, you play, is using. it will be much easier for him, to see the problem then, since it is hard to tell, what the problem could be, just having the vague information that something doesn't work. but that would be for him or his thread to determine, because those additional information wouldn't help me much, since i use neither xplode's rom, nor the media player, so i can't recreate your problem, which is essential to finding out, where it comes from.
good luck
Chef_Tony
My kaiser phone has standart rom, win 6,1. It is laging all the time from the day I bought it. My memory card is almost empty. I read a lot in this forum, but nowhere found the solving to my problem.
I am thinking, maybe it lags because of my connection, sometimes it is 3G, sometimes EDGE. If any one knows where the problem is and how to solve it, THANK YOU.
Is the actual phone lagging, or just your connection speed?
Trying a different ROM is a good idea, you will find one that is certainly faster and more capabile than your stock ROM.
everything is lagging. I have to click some times, or even wait for about 5-10 seconds or more, until phone reacts.
Reflash your current ROM or grab a new one (how to's are in the ROM dev section), something must have happened in the registry or something that is bogging it down.
Tried a hard reset? Solves all manner of problems.
thank you guys, I will try hard reset and maybe then will flash my rom
diablom said:
thank you guys, I will try hard reset and maybe then will flash my rom
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Maybe you sold your Kaiser. I have the same problem: orig. wm6.0, orig wm6.1, Tir 18 and others, tried different radio and hardspl. But the lag is often there, not ever but often. I can't say why, I think it's related to the gsm signal: try to work putting the phone functions off (airplane mode) and play bubble breaker....
wayting for Android porting.
Bye
Matteo
I was having the same problem while i was using Windows Mobile 6.1 . Then i upgraded my ROM to 6.5 and this problem has almost disappeared. I have an observation that this thing happens while i am roaming at a low or no signal point. Finally Windows Mobile 6.5 proved to be the remedy for me.
Use task manager and kill all the programs that are running. Many times when my Tilt (WM 6.1) is lagging there are 8 to 10 programs active. In IE, clear the history and hit the delete files button, this usually clears a lot of memory. Make sure that you have plenty of free "Program" memory, install non essential programs to the microSD card to free up some space. My Tilt usually runs quick just by making sure to check these things every now and then and it is the stock rom.
I also use Raiisak's KaiserTweak, increased my cache file size for faster ops plus many other tidbits, HTC Home Customizer by emunutz, FdcSoft TaskManager a really good one with regedit, HTC Classaction 3d drivers, EXT mod for File explorer, etc. Just another route you can go if you don't feel like flashing.
Hello!
Recently I bought my Trinity, and very satisfied with it, BUT
I have some problems with iGO 8.
Precisely my problem is the program memory.
When the phone is in idle, I have approx. 16-18 Mbytes of free program memory. It's enough for almost everything but not iGO 8.
If I try to plan a longer route, the program says not enough memory.
When I'm using it, every hour the phone simply resets itself.
Is there a solution for this, or a possibility to make more free program memory?
I'm using WM6.5. I've tried the WM6.1 ROMs also, but didn't get much more free memory, only 1-2 Mbytes more.
Regards,
S100200
try another navi program,
i am using igo 2006+ and everything works fine...
The problem is that the newest maps work only with iGO 8.x.
S100200 said:
Hello!
Recently I bought my Trinity, and very satisfied with it, BUT
I have some problems with iGO 8.
Precisely my problem is the program memory.
When the phone is in idle, I have approx. 16-18 Mbytes of free program memory. It's enough for almost everything but not iGO 8.
If I try to plan a longer route, the program says not enough memory.
When I'm using it, every hour the phone simply resets itself.
Is there a solution for this, or a possibility to make more free program memory?
I'm using WM6.5. I've tried the WM6.1 ROMs also, but didn't get much more free memory, only 1-2 Mbytes more.
Regards,
S100200
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Hai,
I had the same problem and I wend back to wm5 original! Now I have 28mb free mem and can use Igo8 and the new Navigon7.
I don't need all the gadgets from wm6.5.
Good luck
Antoine