Keyboard Backlight Query - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi All,
I'm new to the forum!
Have recently bought one of these TyTnII's fantastic PDA/phone. I have a query;
How long is the backlight supposed to stay on when using the keyboard? It goes out after a bout 5 seconds, is this right?
Maybe a silly question but I'm not sure.
Thanks in advance.

Its about 5-10 seconds, however you can modify the registry for it to display the backlight keyboard for 30 seconds or more. KaiserTweak has it in its library.

Thanks ekw

Is there a setting (i.e. 0) that would set it to not go off at all whilst the phone is open?
Thanks

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Screen Lock and Backlight

Is there a hack to not have the backlight automatically dim out when screen locking the phone? Any help appreciated on this. Thanks.
Yeah, use search. There's a quick & dirty fix that helps until HTC wakes up. It's in this thread somewhere.
Thanks,
I did search quite a bit. The fix I found was to diable the screen shutting off during a phone call. I haven't been able to find the fix for the backlight dimming out when screen locking the device.
Search
Hmmmm... Sorry you missed it. I went back a couple of pages and found ur answer; there are two:
1) Easiest remains to switch off-on your TyTN II after call. Ur back to normal then.
2) Option is a small app, written by Magxs that wakes the baby up after disconnect. See more here: link.
Hope this is of use.
edit: by the way, this only seems to happen to password protected systems. That is an option - switch off the PW. Lot of us can't due to corporate (exchange or goodlink) security pollicy.
Thanks Nukenine, however, this is not the issue I am questioning. Regarding the issue that you are speaking about, the following is the fix:
Modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on and will fall back to the backlight/power settings
My question is when I key lock my device (the action that we can have on our today screen which says "Device Locked" or "Device Unlocked"), the screen automatically dims out. And when I tap on the screen, it stays dim, it does NOT become bright again. So, I am asking if anyone knows the registry hack on this issue. I hope I clarified what I am trying to find. Thanks again.
Sorry for misunderstanding.
It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.
Jason Lee said:
It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.
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Hey Jason,
Thanks for the info. However, when I change the number to 4 (I even tried 9), and then I screen lock my device, my original Backlight setting (set to turn off in 30 Seconds) changes to 10 seconds. When I unlock it, go to the backlight settings, change it back to 30 seconds and then lock it, it changes automatically back to 10 seconds. So the hack works, but it gets rid of the backlight settings and changes them to the ones mentioned above.
The more serious issue is when I soft reset the device. It seems that the number I entered into the registry path goes back to the default "0" automatically. I tried this three times and it always goes back to the "0" default, rendering the hack useless.
Any advice?
Thanks again.
Jason, any advice on the above? Is it possible it is because of the registry editor I am using (Resco Registry)?
Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.
Jason Lee said:
Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.
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Thanks Jason, I appreciate the reply and feedback.
This is bugging me too. I hope we find a solution for it soon. Is there a place in registry where startup programs can be defined? If yes, is there a silent tool we can use to import a reg file in the background at startup?

Backlight bug

Hi all,
i have the Kaiser for a week, and was thinking the batterry autonomy isn't especially amazing..
Then doing some research, i've found out that that despite the backlight setting set to be turned off after 30 sec, it was NOT turned off.
Switching setting to 1 min doesn't help either.
Setting it to 10 sec DOES work, the backlight turns off after 10 secs, BUT turns back ON after various seconds (sometimes +/- 11 secs, sometimes after 21 seconds...), then 10 secs later again off, etc etc... (cycle forever).
I did removed from the today screen both SPB Mobile shell and HTC Home (today screen = blank). But the problem is still there...
so the questions :
1) Does anybody experience that (it took me a full week of use to note this... can you try it on your Kaiser ?)
2) Any idea/solution to fix this ?
Best Regards,
Mike.
Just letting you know, that mine works as it should.
I dont have that bug .... but another bug:
After soft-reset, the battery backlight will be set to 10 seconds.
No clue yet why that happen.
When having issues like that try a hard reset and do not use a back up just set everything back up by hand. I found that most apps still are not ready for WM6 just yet since it really is a new OS even though we have had it for what seems like a very long time now.
Hi
Then doing some research, i've found out that that despite the backlight setting set to be turned off after 30 sec, it was NOT turned off.
Switching setting to 1 min doesn't help either.
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When you set the back light to turn off, it doesn't actually turn off, instead it drops to minimum brightness. If you are in darkish room and so have the backlight set to minimum anyway, it looks like it isn't going off.
This is by design for Windows Mobile 6 devices, the Toshiba G900 was exactly the same. I can only guess it is because the screens are not trans-reflective, so they dim to the lowest level so you can still make out what is on the display and can tell it is still on, rather than in standby. This makes the behaviour seem similar to those moving from trans-reflective displays as while the backlight could go out completely, you could still make out what was on the display.
Regards
Phil

Locking phone after certain duration

Hi guys,
I've tried looking thru the settings of my phone for locking my phone after certain duration but i couldn't seem to find it. is there a way in the phone? cause sometimes i get too busy to even hold on to the 'end key' for 3 secs and and just dump it into my pocket. ended up it goes to other programs or something else.
hope you guys can point me in the right direction. i also found 3rd party software to do this but is there a need to?
anyway i'm not refering to getting timeout to the password screen.
Personally, I didn't find this kind of feature too,
but there is a nice app, that will do this for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
Automatically lock your Diamond --> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
Delay device autolock: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockTimeout -> Change the Dword value (30 = 30 seconds, etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
ah... apparently i didnt look hard enough for the possible tweaks.
i was trying out maniac's auto keylock. didnt quite suit me.
thanks a lot guys
SurfHost said:
Automatically lock your Diamond --> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
Delay device autolock: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockTimeout -> Change the Dword value (30 = 30 seconds, etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
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ok for the first tweak i understand what it meant.
but what does the second tweak do exactly?
Its suppost to delay the autolock for the specified amount of seconds after the backlight turns off.

Backlight problem

I'm having this problem with backlight. No matter what I do, the screen automatically dim after 10-12 seconds. I've turned off the all "Turn off screen after so many minutes" (on battery or on AC). I've changed the backlight settings and it still revert.
I've even watch the backlight setting moved back to minimum from max after that 10-12 seconds.
I can't figured out what is overriding the setting. I don't have much installed:
WM 6.1 with
HTC Home
HHC
BatteryStatus
TouchPal
Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2
Any thoughts?
Settings->System->Backlight & Settings->System->Power
To control BACKLIGHT settings, i.e. Backlight Brightness, Backlight timeout, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Backlight
...and check OFF the checkbox in the "Battery power" tab...or leave it checked ON and adjust the timeout
To control SCREEN settings, i.e. when does the screen turn OFF COMPLETELY, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Power
...and check OFF or adjust the timeout for the timeout that takes the device into standby mode
note that the above two settings applets are linked to each other from within via the Menu softkey
if you have already done BOTH of the above, i've no idea why your backlight dims so quickly
You have batterystatus installed and if you go to the preferences in it you have backlight as an option adjust your settings in there.
msg1285 said:
You have batterystatus installed and if you go to the preferences in it you have backlight as an option adjust your settings in there.
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Sweet! That was it. Thanks for the tip.
I don't have batterystatus installed. I do have pockettoolman but it uses regular power and backlight settings.
My issue is even without any reset, the backlight setting automatically resets to default 10s. I change it to 2min, but at some point it will reset itself to 10s. This is without reset or turning phone off. I don't know y it does this but its very annoying!
Any ideas? Thanks.
I am having the same problem as well here... the backlight timeout will automatically reset to 10sec everytime you switch on the phone (not soft/hard reset, just normal power on). I am using ATT Tilt with the offical WM6.1 ROM.
Tried to change the setting directly in Registry using Resco, still the same problem. The value got reset to 10 on the next power on.
Wondering if anyone got a solution to this?
(maybe it's a problem for ATT tilt only....some users posted the same problem in the official ATT forum
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=99891&view=by_date_ascending&page=8 )
I'm having similar problem with back light and also it is very annoying when screen goes black and kills wifi and gps. is there way to keep wifi and gps on when backlight goes off? thanks.
WM6.1 dutty's WWE rom, Att Tilt
ATT Tilt Backlight Fix {Maybe}
I have to put this here
"Making registry changes incorrectly can cause system-wide problems that may require you to re-install WM6.1 to correct them. Making changes at your own risk."
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Well here some settings to try:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight
There are several settings here with the word "Timeout" in them:
Assuming External Power
===================
ACTimeout
ACTimeoutTemp
ACTimeoutTempUnchecked
Assuming In Battery
=================
BatteryTimeout
BatteryTimeoutTemp
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked
Make them all 300 for 5 minutes
Now one interesting one...
AutoSensor try changing 1 to 0
Test run....
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Power on/off using switch etc..
Performed soft-reset using stylus...
Display did not timeout after 10 seconds... But is did appear to power off after 5 minutes...
To soon to say how long this will last, but it definately appears to have made a difference and now seems to last longer. Something like 2 or minutes. Go figure
I was pretty happy with the new AT&T 6.1 Rom until this problem came up. The ROM is fast, the battery life with the 1.65xxx14 radio is good.
After a couple of days trying to fix it based on some solutions I found on the internet, I have given up.
No matter what I did, it always came back even with just having exchange push mail and total commander installed only.
Reverted back to WM 6.0 just because of this problem that was very annoying...
Now I am having a problem flashing a different hard spl instead of the 3.56 on my phone for WM 6.0.
Anyway, so, has the problem come back yet?
Thx
Oz
Still no solution to this problem? I'm a little afraid to try registry hack but am getting desperate.
I also now notice volume resetting issues...volume will change on its own accord to different settings...
The registry tweak fixed problem.
Only changed the first batterytimeout to 96 (2 min).
It now timeouts after 2min and survives a soft reset.
Thank you!
tkellytpa said:
I have to put this here
"Making registry changes incorrectly can cause system-wide problems that may require you to re-install WM6.1 to correct them. Making changes at your own risk."
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Well here some settings to try:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight
There are several settings here with the word "Timeout" in them:
Assuming External Power
===================
ACTimeout
ACTimeoutTemp
ACTimeoutTempUnchecked
Assuming In Battery
=================
BatteryTimeout
BatteryTimeoutTemp
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked
Make them all 300 for 5 minutes
Now one interesting one...
AutoSensor try changing 1 to 0
Test run....
==================
Power on/off using switch etc..
Performed soft-reset using stylus...
Display did not timeout after 10 seconds... But is did appear to power off after 5 minutes...
To soon to say how long this will last, but it definately appears to have made a difference and now seems to last longer. Something like 2 or minutes. Go figure
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Back light issues Mobile 6.1
I have the TILT with 6.1 installed.... My backlight with default to 10 seconds also.. alog with that when I Turn the phone ff using the power button, if I sit there and watch it the backlight will come on with a black screen. Just backlight for no ryme or reason... I also have the issue of the screen brightness going full bright on me. All of these issues have really taken a toll on my battery life. Any thoughts from anyone...
I found that for some reason (probably Battery Status?) my backlight would always revert to 7-seconds when on battery. Every time I changed it via the control panel applet I could then go and see the value in the registry getting changed to 7. If I manually changed the value in the registry it would always revert to 7 after a short while.
I found that removing the 'BatteryTimeout' entry from the registry (HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight) and not touching the Backlight control panel applet (or changing Battery Status) prevents it being automatically updated to 7-seconds and applies the default of 30-seconds.
I am not sure if this will work for you as there seem to be variable results, however for me this works perfectly. I have all my defaults set in my custom ROM so I never need to change Battery Status or open the Backlight applet and the default 30-seconds for the backlight is set.
Andy
Here is a link to a cab to address this issue
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=1&dl_id=269
jgatlin1 said:
Here is a link to a cab to address this issue
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=1&dl_id=269
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Just to confirm I have just extracted the 'backlight.dll' file from the update posted on HTC's website and cooked it into a ROM, replacing the original 'backlight.dll' and it does indeed solve the problem.
I have played around with the backlight control panel applet and opened and closed Battery Status and the delay remains at what is configured - 30-seconds in my case.
Andy
ADB100 said:
Just to confirm I have just extracted the 'backlight.dll' file from the update posted on HTC's website and cooked it into a ROM, replacing the original 'backlight.dll' and it does indeed solve the problem.
I have played around with the backlight control panel applet and opened and closed Battery Status and the delay remains at what is configured - 30-seconds in my case.
Andy
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Scratch what I said in my previous post. With this updated .dll file the behaviour of the backlight is worse. I have done some testing today with the updated 'backlight.dll' file cooked into a ROM and it's painful. No matter what I try the registry values 'ACTimeout', 'BatterTimeout' & 'timeoutsaved' are ALWAYS reverted to a value of 8 once the keylock has been applied. In my case either by Battery Status (keylock on resume) or pressing the today screen icon. This results in the backlight dimming after 8-seconds when on either battery or AC, the only way to resolve is to either go to the backlight control panel applet or edit the registry directly. Hit the keylock though and your back at square one
I have now re-cooked my ROM and replaced the 'backlight.dll' for the previous one and the behaviour returns to normal. So my advice is don't install this patch or cook it into your custom ROM.
Andy
ASCIIker said:
To control BACKLIGHT settings, i.e. Backlight Brightness, Backlight timeout, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Backlight
...and check OFF the checkbox in the "Battery power" tab...or leave it checked ON and adjust the timeout
To control SCREEN settings, i.e. when does the screen turn OFF COMPLETELY, etc, go to:
Settings->System->Power
...and check OFF or adjust the timeout for the timeout that takes the device into standby mode
note that the above two settings applets are linked to each other from within via the Menu softkey
if you have already done BOTH of the above, i've no idea why your backlight dims so quickly
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Thanks so much for this post. I have been trying for days to get my back light to stay on and nothing worked. As it turned out I was only doing the setting in the backlight tab, not the in the power tab.
Finally!
Click Here for the .cab that fixed my unit. I got it off the ATT forum.
NOTE to all... Even this fix did not solve my problem until I checked the boxes to time the backlight. I like the backlight feature on all the time. If I don't want to see the screen, I turn it off.

Erm... Device Lock?? Can anybody help on this

I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
try holding the end call button for a few seconds
Thanks. Am guessing that was in the manual but must have missed it in skim reading it.
not sure mate i don't read the manuals either i just asked the same question on the TD1 haha
I was also very disappointed by missing LOCK option - thanks, maybe next time, i could at least download that manual from HTC
db_darryl said:
I Have gone straight from the Orbit2 to the Diamond2 however I seem to have a small problem with the device lock that i used to have on the front screen as it only works if i disable the touchflo3d homepage that i kind of like.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/3rd party screen locks that are practical?
PS. had the phone 2 days and not really had time to read manual thoroughly etc so if there is a really simple response to this then I apologize
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TouchLockPro works on the Diamond2, it unlocks by light sensor and taking stylus out.
you can set long press of the end call button to lock screen "settings/personal/buttons/end key tab.
Anyway to set the TD2 to switch on by pressing any of the 4 bottons? Now mine is only able to be switched on by pressing the on/off button.
This lock the device automatical everytime when the backlight goes off.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight
AutoDeviceLockEnable from 0 to 1
After change no softreset is needed.
No way to activate the screen with the call/start/arrow/end call button?
you can use smart lock, it is free and very good.
How does one change the lock time?
I've set it but can't now access the time setting - I've read the manual and still no clue.
Tony

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