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When I first got my Herald I spend a good day or so customizing the hell out of WM5, editing the registry, installing custom themes, dialers, etc... so everything was to my liking. Then I saw screens of WM6 and waited eagerly for HTC to release the official WM6 ROM. By the time the ROMS were out there I was already happy with the way my Herald was functioning under WM5.
My question is this: Of those of you who have used WM5 and then upgraded to WM6, was it worth it? What benefits can I expect to see other than a slightly better looking interface??? Does the phone itself operate better? Do you have better reception? Better memory usage when using multiple apps?
Doug M
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Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
Apart from a few complaints that I had, I think that there are actually many things that are improved, for example the graphics when you turn portrait to landscape...and this is a remarkable one. And also, you are able to 'zoom in' in the latest Internet Explorer (WM6.1 standard one).
i was happy user with WM 2003, and later with WM2003 SE, and later with WM5, and later with WM6, and now with WM6.1... so you can say i'm a happy user in general i beleave you can be a happy user with any Mobile OS... i beleave is a choice...
Cheers
Very happy here. I'm running the official 6.1 ROM with the accompanying HTC SPL (overwriting the Hard SPL I used previously, as mine is a Vodafone branded phone) and it's far more responsive device - no more pauses or missed button presses, very little waiting around generally, and certain tasks like browsing files are markedly quicker. The new features (threaded SMS and improved IE) are good, having the camera and bluetooth fixes in ROM is worthwhile, and the whole package just feels like a much better, snappier device.
If I had to criticise it on anything, I'd say that at times the GPS can be slower to get a lock on - but then, at other times, it seems very quick - so I probably need to test that some more.
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
Found no grounds for complaints as of now (4 days and counting). Using the SWE version of the official update.
Happy user here!
corleno said:
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
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same here.
me happy 2
Yes I confim being happy by the new official 6.1 release from HTC ... I was never happy with any cooked rom except with only one 2003 rom I had to cook it myself to add certain applications I didn't want to loose them with hard reset ...
with so much due respect to all gurus and chefs here, but playing with the core components and registry tweaks are not gauarnteed to hold against all types of applications a user may decide to install later ... actually this is the main reason for most of complaints.
I only didn't like the new threaded sms, but it's only a matter of small tweak .. but all the rest is so fine for me.
After about 3 flashes. a lil bit contented... but not happy.
The only reason i stick with this official rom is because i am kind of a purist, there are other very good roms from various cooks on this forum. But i prefer this one becasue its just generic* and i consider it pure from the manufacturer without person tweaks as a result of peoples personal preferences.
Sorry, I'm NOT happy with the latest official HTC 6.1 ROM.
BUT, I'm running udK's Vega R0 WM6.1 ROM for weeks, and I'm very happy with that one!
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
But if you were to try the HTC rom with the HTC SPL your opinion might change!
Personally, I think, like Boingg, that the new ROM is great PROVIDED you re-install the HTC SPL.
As another person also said, there are some very good cooked ROM's here, but while they introduce some speed/performance improvements, they can also introduce their own bugs. One cook in particular seems intent on providing quantity over quality by uploading a new ROM seemingly every hour - always amuses me when I read the responses, like 'What a great rom, I am wetting myself its sooooooo good!! - By the way, here's a list of the bugs I found' (This isn't a direct quote, but you get the idea!!). I think at the end of day that the ROM that has been designed for a particular device will always be better than one that has been manhandled from elsewhere - although some of the ported ROM's do get pretty close, there is always some niggle or other.
Anyway, I will stop rambling.... yes I am happy with the HTC ROM but I reserve the right to re-flash at any time!
I'm using the WWE version and am happy with it so far.
rubinho93 said:
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
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lol ... it draws in the background and displays it latter
no not fast actually... same speed about 2~5 seconds depends @cache (I think)
Doemaarwat said:
Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
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Do you plan on doing something with this data/poll/etc....
Or is this a venting thread
This is a developer's forum .... not tech support or customer service
The purpose of this forum is to develop
If you've been around these devices for a while, you'll know that factory ROMz are the worst. Page Pools are set low, they contain alot of unwanted bloatware for compaines to brand their devices and as a result of this, storage space is low.
These ROMz however, provide a base for devlopers to work with. These are the ROMz that 95% of us have on our devices. On that note, we should be thankful that ROMz are updated by manufacturers....beacuase, again it provides raw materials to work with.
Try joining a manufacturer or carrier forum where thoughts & concerns of the ROMz in question can be viewed by representatives of the manufacturers.
Rom behavior:
There's no such thing as a perfect ROM. Some work better than others. What works good for me on my device may not work for you....
Factory or Cooked
D W N Y +1
Development is the name of the game. Move the thread to Walala land
And no, you should not be fooled feling "happy" with a glimp of possibilities provided by HTC. Nice quote "raw materials".
(and believe me, I DO know how they "develop" @ HTC here. They still learn from our own chefs (from outside the mouth of the horse)
I am Glad to see the WWE Official version out now.
Now that the Official version is out I will wait for our resident cooks to make a good rom out of it. Since the first day I got the Tilt I Hard SPL'ed it and got rid of the AT&T bloat and flashed a Schaps rom. I did try the new WWE from HTC but had some problems with it but I didn't take the time to try a different radio. So I am sure with the correct radio it would have been better then the one it came with. Depending on where you live your carrier and the service offered in your area have a lot to do with what radio works best. At least that has been my experience. But the one thing I know that is I seem to prefer the cooked roms if they use an official base. So I will wait and hopefully Schaps will be releasing soon. Thats my 2 cents!
Ed...
happy user, but could be happier.
I consider myself the type of person to be 'whoooed' by a gimmick. The iPhone user interface looked pretty nice, but I have been called Bill Gates love child on several occasions from certain people who know me personally and know of my love for Windows (Mobile and Desktop), the iPhone really was not a suitable product. I do like Windows Mobile. In fact I like it a lot. But it IS UGLY. So UGLY.
I have my fair share of experience with Windows Mobile, from 5 on my HTC Hermes then to 6 on the Touch, to 6.1 on my Touch Dual and now the Diamond. I purchased the Diamond for several reasons but the most important reasons were
1. The phone is beautiful.
2. TouchFlo 3D is beautiful.
Even though it did not cover 100% of Windows, most of the functions I regularly use were. The animations were great - I do love the 'fly in' and 'fly out' menus.
However after a while of use (especially when patience wears short after a few pints during those sociable moments), I found myself acknowledging the fact it was sluggish. So I decided to flash the device with cooked ROMs based on the 1.37 ROM's. Yes I did see a difference, but there are times when it would still run rather slow. OK, I thought, with the emergence of 1.93 ROM's, I immediately flashed my device. Very responsive now, but no menu animations? Just a fade in/out transition effect between menus?
I know this may sound rather anal (in fact it is), but I love the UI as it was. Now every cooked ROM is based on 1.93. Now the official HTC site offers the 1.93 ROM as an upgrade. I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. I feel as though HTC themselves have indirectly publicly acknowledged that either a. the spec of the phone is insufficient or (which is most likely) b. that the software is too inefficient. Now I have a fair clue on how to find information and while searching for a 1.37 ROM, I found the stock 1.35 ROM. Just for a laugh I flashed my device with it. Just for a laugh....
Now it seems to me that this ROM runs better than the 1.37 ROM with the animations intact, not sure if anyone else has experienced this but overall I am rather disappointed on HTC's decision moving forward with TouchFlo3D is to sacrifice the UI presentation to improve responsiveness. HTC do not provide previous ROM versions (as far as I am aware), if someone were to flash the ROM and was unhappy with the result then it is not as easy as it could be to return to the stock ROM..
Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
Riel said:
Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
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What a totally random number, but palindromic too! lol - Made me chuckle at 2:24:22am!
odyssey96 said:
I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. .
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Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
Black93300ZX said:
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
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I did not, because a majority of the cooked ROM's on offer already implemented registry tweaks so I just flashed a few of them. Diamond Project v1, bElite, etc.
orangecrush said:
Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
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I do not believe anything was removed from 1.37, I was referring to the removal of animations in 1.93. I will be sticking to 1.35 until the ROM's with TouchXperience emerge. I really would like to cover the Start menu and also settings control panel, PointUI does not seem to work on the Diamond.
Flash your device with a lite ROM based on 1.93 and diable TF3D. Install Spb Mobile Shell. A much much better GUI and which covers more functions than TF3D.
hello guys!
wm 6.5 is now available but htc won't supply it for touch diamond phone.
now i have a question, @ the rom section there are many wm6.5 rom files, but i am a newbie and dont know which one is the best?
is anyone familiar about that roms? is there a rom with the final 6.5?
and which one is clean? some guys are changing everything... i just want an original touch flo 3D (newest version) and wm 6.5?
thx!
so long
Mmmm...
I'm afraid no one can tell you which is best because everyone has different tastes. All you can do is try them and see which suits your needs.
None of the 6.5 ROM's are completely bug-free. They are improving, and the ROM cookers are doing a good job making them work, but as they're not designed specifically for the Diamond, bugs are bound to exist however small.
If you can live with a bug or two, go ahead and try some, but don't expect perfection. I know it's a bind, but you really have to read through the posts to find out what users of the various ROM's are experiencing.
I've tried all the 6.5's, some better than others, but as I would like one to be how you would by it new, they all seem to disappoint somewhat. I'm gonna wait and buy a new device with 6.5 pre-installed
foxm said:
hello guys!
wm 6.5 is now available but htc won't supply it for touch diamond phone.
now i have a question, @ the rom section there are many wm6.5 rom files, but i am a newbie and dont know which one is the best?
is anyone familiar about that roms? is there a rom with the final 6.5?
and which one is clean? some guys are changing everything... i just want an original touch flo 3D (newest version) and wm 6.5?
thx!
so long
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How do you know that htc will not supply it for diamond? That is a bit of disappointment for me because i was waiting for some realase xD
grahamkdt said:
I'm afraid no one can tell you which is best because everyone has different tastes. All you can do is try them and see which suits your needs.
None of the 6.5 ROM's are completely bug-free. They are improving, and the ROM cookers are doing a good job making them work, but as they're not designed specifically for the Diamond, bugs are bound to exist however small.
If you can live with a bug or two, go ahead and try some, but don't expect perfection. I know it's a bind, but you really have to read through the posts to find out what users of the various ROM's are experiencing.
I've tried all the 6.5's, some better than others, but as I would like one to be how you would by it new, they all seem to disappoint somewhat. I'm gonna wait and buy a new device with 6.5 pre-installed
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thx a lot! i think i found one, but i am afraid of that hard-spl bootloader
McWpl said:
How do you know that htc will not supply it for diamond? That is a bit of disappointment for me because i was waiting for some realase xD
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there was a public saying about it... i am very disappointed :/
so long
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
Put Hardspl on your phone and you can test yourself You can always go back to the 6.1 rom.
is there a stock manila 2.5 ROM offered by t-mo?
if not, 2.5 + CHT is definately worth using the HTC ROM.
I would not mess with Sense 2.5 unless it is cooked. You need a lot of tweaks to make it run smoothly on the TP2, especially in HTC messaging. I am using a cooked version of the T-Mobile stock rom with Sense 2.1, has been the best and most stable rom for me yet. Sense 2.5 is good if you don't mind giving up some performance for new features. Sense 2.1 is what our devices run best with. Hope this helps you decide.
EDIT: In comparison to WinMo 6.1 with TF3D, upgrading to 6.5 with Sense2.1 will in my opinion make the device run smoother. 6.1 is a very solid OS and works well with TouchFlo to make scrolling much easier. However, I say if you can upgrade the device to 6.5 without losing performance go for it because it is much better integrated than TouchFlo, making the touch experience much better. Through my testing, the TP2 functions best with WinMo 6.5 with Sense2.1. The newer WinMo builds are probably better off using on the HD2 and other high performance devices. Same thing with Sense2.5, it can run smoothly but you will be giving up some speed as well as memory and battery life. I have come to terms with my phone, lol... Nothing beyond Sense2.1 and WM6.5 from now on. But you have to test on your own to see which you like better. Good luck!
I've been cooking own ROM for a few weeks now, and it's a T-Mobile no frills ROM.
It's not quite finished, but it's very stable and the battery life is excellent. I could always use another tester if you're interested.
krodby said:
Hi everyone,
I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have been torn on whether or not to upgrade to 6.5 for some time now. Well I finally decided to go for it, but then came across the official unbranded HTC rom.
My question is (dealing only with official release updates from tmobile and htc):
Who has upgraded to both branded and unbranded and can relay pros and cons of both compared to 6.1 and each other? Or has anyone heard enough about both, or can give me any relevant information?
Also, do I need to HardSPL in order to flash the HTC rom?
EDIT: I used the official T-Mobile for several weeks, it is OK. I'm on NRG now.
I'd really like to lose all the bloatware and sh!tty splash screen and everything else t-mo, but I don't know if there is any clear-cut advantage to doing so.
Also, if I am completely daft and missed a similar pre-existing thread, please inform me of my mistake. Same goes if I posted in the wrong section, this is my first post in evar.
THANKS!!!
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You would have to hard SPL to use the HTC ROM.
The Official WM 6.5 is a sense 2.1 version, but you would not need to hard SPL.
Thanks for all of your help!
I'm still not sure what i'll do for now, but i'll probably end up just biting the bullet and becoming an addict. I'll start with the official sh!t and gateway into flashing every stable rom that exists lol.