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There's been s much talk of late about the release of WM5 on the BA. I've got my BA still running original rom WM2003 and am undecided if I need to upgrade to WM5.
Can we use this thread to list the basic benefits o the rom upgrade please? I've read page after page about problems and fixes but what will I actually gain from the upgrade?
1. More stable WLAN when it's on (at least for me).
2. No loss of data if the battery runs out.
3. It's cool to have the latest stuff! :twisted:
4. Better looking dialpad.
5. More stable MMS. On 2003SE I had to soft reset the unit after every second to every third MMS sendt to be able to send more. On WM5 I haven't had that problem at all.
6. The softbuttons at the bottom of the screen always has a handy shortcut to whatever's needed at the moment.
this is a topic i'm quite interested aswell.
i've been reading a few topics related to the WM5, and i'm still not sure if i should upgrade or not.
a few more replies with some feedback would be nice.
thanks Mastiff for the reply, and thanks anyone else who gives his feedback on this.
What Mastiff said plus:
Nick Name for contacts which Micrsoft Voice Command picks up on [rather than say First/Last Name]
Nice Personal Picture/Ring Tone that is set from the WM5 Contacts.
To add more :
- Increased battery life
- Overall stability of OS as now it is on ROM and not in RAM.
- Improved driver database, improved quality of audio
Thanks for the input guys, i'm starting to think it may be upgrade time!
Please keep 'em coming...
According to some promise-stuff by Microsoft. WM2005 finally adds support to synchronize SMS/MMS with Outlook.
Too bad, I couldn't do that when I tested WM2005 BA.
Maybe it's too early... Maybe it requires some pluging for Outlook, I'm not sure.
Wonderful work by mamaich is still in its infancy. I hope the patched WM2005 ROM will get faster, better and badder :twisted:
Or hopefully HTC will make up their mind and do official BA 2005 bussiness.
I use jeyo mobile extender to sync SMS mesages with outlook. It is a bit buggy, but is compatible with WM5.
odie3 said:
What Mastiff said plus:
Nick Name for contacts which Micrsoft Voice Command picks up on [rather than say First/Last Name]
Nice Personal Picture/Ring Tone that is set from the WM5 Contacts.
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You can also say "call [nickname]" - That's new with WM5.
that is what I meant...
Mastiff said:
1. More stable WLAN when it's on (at least for me).
2. No loss of data if the battery runs out.
3. It's cool to have the latest stuff! :twisted:
4. Better looking dialpad.
5. More stable MMS. On 2003SE I had to soft reset the unit after every second to every third MMS sendt to be able to send more. On WM5 I haven't had that problem at all.
6. The softbuttons at the bottom of the screen always has a handy shortcut to whatever's needed at the moment.
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Unfortunately I found three main problems which has forced me to return to 2003SE:
1. Much slower than 2003SE, did try the prog to up CPU speed but that only made my M2000 hang often, could live with it except for 2.
2. Email accounts lost if you remove battery (even for only a few seconds).
3. Netfront Access doesn't work!
1. Slower, yes. So much slower that it outweighs the benefits? Hell, no!
2. I have no idea why you have that problem. I just took out the battery and waited for a minute or so, and nothing happened to my mail account. Maybe something has gone wrong during your upgrade?
Well i did the upgrade to wm2005 yesterday. So far it works fine. In fact I see little difference to 2003 version except a few missing apps and wifi has to be switched on manually every time you turn on, pain in the a**e.
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2. I have no idea why you have that problem. I just took out the battery and waited for a minute or so, and nothing happened to my mail account. Maybe something has gone wrong during your upgrade?
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Have upgraded twice and same problem, also it would seem I'm not the only person who has this problem
Yeah, i had the email problem. Plus I downgraded because it kept losing my GPRS settings at random moments which was a pain. I really like WM5 and can't wait til next year when i can upgrade to an O2 Exec or similar.
I liked it but found it waaaaaaaay too slow, keyboard lag made it impossible.
And yes, same after resets.
i have read the postings on the upgrade of WM5 on the Blue Angel device..
what i would like to know is what will WM5 do for me that WM 2003SE won't... are there any real benefits.. and do all the functions still work... wifi, gprs, phone etc..
i'm using the 1.40 ROM and don't really have that many problems..
every now and then the device resets by itself.. if i open the inbox, or change the phone on/off... otherwise it seems to run great.
is there any speed increase in using WM5 ??
any benefits in wifi or GPRS and emails ??
thanks..
hi
I had the opportunity to test WM5 in my himalaya device...
It wont be so different than yours but here is my 2 cents:
-Slower than WM2003SE
like 80% of WM2003 speed
-sometimes the cellphone rings once but for the other party is the 3rd or 4th ring.
-Lot of software bugs and incompatibilities.
bugs with camera and MMS
Camera= worse than the WM2003 one
MMS= I can send but when I receive, the page is blank (no objects, sounds, pics)
I just return to WM2003SE
Yes, is ugly than WM5 but is better, bug-less
hope this helps you.
Anyway, you can try WM5 and If you dont like it, go back to WM2003SE again, well at least work for me that way.
Same 2 Me...
I just get back to 2003SE...
But I miss the look of WM5
I'm back to 2003SE too!
The only thing i miss of WM5 is the Persistance Storage.
2003 gets my vote for now
I'm back to 2003, I ran several versions of the WM5 roms from Maimach. I can say that WM5 is fun, cool and all that but I didn't see any reason to stay with it. The persistent storage thing can be solved for me by backing up my contacts and appointments to a SD card along with the main apps I use on a daily basis on my SD card. Then when I lose power, I just reload the backup of my contacts database, re-load the apps from my SD card and I'm back up and running in just a few minutes. The speed and reliability were the two main reasons I came back. I ran WM5 for at least 6 weeks so I know I gave it a fair shot. I've found that I only use my phone for a few things:
1. Email
2. Phone (duh!)
3. Mp3 player (TCPMP)
4. Limited internet (google/froogle/weather/movie times/news/etc)
5. A few games when I'm stuck in traffic. =)
None of these functions were necessarily performed better in WM5, most of them actually were quite a bit slower but I decided to live with it because I was on WM5!!!
After going back to 2003 (1.42 rom) I was SHOCKED at how much faster it was. I had gotten so used to the sluggish performance of WM5 that I had forgotten what it was like to answer the phone on the first ring, watch outlook email open immediately instead of "within a few seconds" and not have skips when I listen to mp3's. Don't get me wrong, I TRULY appreciate the work Maimach and others are doing to get wm5 on our devices but it's more of a developers toy right now than an actual OS replacement for our devices. When they get a version of WM5 that's written for the xScale processor I think we'll see a HUGE difference.
For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
Me 2
I am also back to 2k3 three weeks ago after 1 morning running 2k5.
Re: 2003 gets my vote for now
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For now, I'm back to 2k3 and not dissappointed at all.
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Which version of ROM 2k3SE did you use...
I'm using 1.42.... Some times when someone call me, the name not show...even that number already in my phone book....
Thanks
i have used windos mobile 5 since the first version on this forum (yep with all bugs and no camera) i have tried all upgrades and versions. and i have all most satisfied with the wizard version (v2) its really more faster. but i onlgy have no problems if i dont use my BA . some times i don´t have fone, other time don´t have sms, mms. lots off crash, with gps and tomtom navigator very instability, every time i put some software in today screen, the BA crash.. etc. etc..
now i have finaly go back to 2003 (version 1.42) and use wall memory (like wb5) use the wisbar advance 2 and my Ba its great.. but i still come here to see if there is some advance in stability on the wb5 .
when the ppl off this forum "bill" a windows mobil 5 running at 95% i reflash my rom again
thanks guys for everything
I upgraded BA to Wizard BA WM5 and found out that if i make call then the call will be disconnected within 1 mins only. Any idea guys?
It was ok in V1 but I get it in V2a and Tuatara's one.
It's REALLY ANNOYING. happens EVERYTIME!!!!!
yeah... This is happen to me too, even there is error in contact and calender apps.
Please KTmasa waht is your thinking? I really appreciate the guy out there working on it.
Looks like 2003SE is the best. No problems just lacking some of new stuff on WM5
My only concern with WM5 right now is the speed when GPRS or WiFi is on. I've just got my GPRS plan from my provider and I'm using it a lot, but it slows down WM5 way too much. As soon as this is resolved, I'm back to WM5.
Yeah, My calendar and contacts went bonkers after A SINGLE DAY OF USE!!! javascript:emoticon(':evil:')
Evil or Very MadI had to reformat the storage on my BA (Xda IIs). That wasn't very useful... I had to go back to mamaich's v3 patched... surprisingly, it is LOADS faster, almost on a par with my official ROM... and I've been using for a month without any problems.
iainparkes said:
I upgraded BA to Wizard BA WM5 and found out that if i make call then the call will be disconnected within 1 mins only. Any idea guys?
It was ok in V1 but I get it in V2a and Tuatara's one.
It's REALLY ANNOYING. happens EVERYTIME!!!!!
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This is also happening to me, but i also have the problem that when i first dial it hangs up straight away and then have to dial again, then hangs up after 1 mintue and it's driving me up the wall.
It seems really strange that i've only come across us very few that this is happen to. Could it be a hardware/software imcompatablity with our specific hardware.
Is there any way that i can get detailed information our hardware to see if we have the same.
Thanks
satpal
So I have just purchased an unlocked 750 and love it, but the rings are...interesting. I have scoured here, Google and hofo but searches brought up nada....so, here it goes. The stock ringtones as well as the .mp3 files I loaded seem to have like a 3-4 second gap between when they play...i.e. if there is a call coming it, the phone will play the sound for 1 second (or however long it might be) and then wait 3-4 seconds before playing it again. This doesn't seem to be an issue with my friends' 650 or 700w/wx. This is really fairly annoying as it tends to make me miss calls...I have heard of a .cab file called tweaks2k2 that supposedly fixes this on other platforms, but I was unable to find such an app for WM5.
I have a Cingular branded phone running WM5 (presumably with a Cingular ROM), if that means anything.
Thanks!
Anyone know what's goin on?
Upgrading the phone to WM6 didn't seem to fix this either...nor did disabling VC or downloading the audio patch from Palm.
I am really at a loss here.
Hi all,
first of all big thanks to all the guys on here, my MDA is nearly how i would like it to be using some of the information from here, great work and keep it up, donations sent to those deserving!
I am using the latest version of windows live mail (10.6.33.0600 thanks duttythroy!) but not matter how i put the settings (currently as items arrive and alway) email tends to have a mind of its own as to wether it is forward automatically or not. seams to work for a while they just stop forwarding, anyone else had/having/resolved these probelsm?? Access is via tmobile web'n'walk unlimited access.
cheers
Matt
I also have had this problem...it just kicks back an error telling me that sync failed!
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I also have had this problem...it just kicks back an error telling me that sync failed!
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yup works every now n then for me too
Yep... Me too
Also having Hotmail and Windows Live problems. So much so that I am seriously considering downgrading to the new BlackBerry, just to be able to stay online and keep my emails and MSN chats available.
Anyone know how to rectify this problem before I go the route of BlackBerry???
PS. I received a email from my mate saying that Yahoo has some or other version of push mail available, if that helps. Got the link somewhere, aint tried it yet as it dont help me with my current email accounts.
I'm probably headed down the same route. One of the primary reasons I decided on the Vario III was for email capabilities and viewing Excel files at work but so far it's been nothing but a disappointment.
Syncing constantly fails. Sometimes my inbox comes back with nothing in it. I haven't managed to download a single attachment successfully, pdf, xls or doc. This is ridiculous.
Microsoft Push Email
I phoned my service provider as my Vario ii came with BlackBerry connect software, but I never bothered with it until I got the Vario iii and started having all these problems. Long story short, they say you cant use the BB software or service unless its with a BB. BUT... they said something about Microsoft Push Email... Which I am on the phone to them now to find out about, but the TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT WONT PICK UP THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!
Update: There is nothing that these ppl can do to get me what I want, so... What I ended up doing, and its costing me a few quid a month, which is worth it, is set up a NEW PUSH ACCOUNT with my website. So far, it seems to be working.
But, I am also told, for you Hotmail users, that if you upgrade to Hotmail PLUS, that it might also support the push option. Not sure yet, going to try find out now. If you are like me that lives for email on the go, (well, only recently that is) then it might be worth spending the extra cash. Will be in touch to let you know what else I find out...
No good news to report
Ok guys... I tried almost everything. I dunno if its the Windows Live Software or the T-Mobile Internet Connection, but even after I signed up for a PUSH EMAIL from my website hosting provider, I still get SYNC ERRORS or SENDING MESSAGE ERRORS, so Im putting it down to one of 2 things... A consistant connectivity problem with either the Vario 3 or with the Service Provider, in my case T-mobile.
Which makes my next statement rather contradictory. I am getting rid of the Vario 3 and replacing it with the new BlackBerry Curve 8300, but sticking with my T-Mobile contract (kinda because I still have a year left on it) I will also be upgrading my current contract to provide me with the BlackBerry Service, which pushes up my monthly tariff but, saves me from Burst Blood vessels and anurisms in the brain, when the emails wont send or retrieve.
I weighed up the pro's and con's of the BB and the Vario3. Sure the Vario3 has more features and the touch screen and so on, but the BB doesn't have a sliding keyboard which could potentially wear out (Like on my Vario 2 from constant use) Its thinner than the Vario3 and way lighter.
This is not a product review, I guess, so if anyone out there knows why I shouldn't make the swap, please let me know asap before I go ahead and do it.
Take in to consideration that reliable email service and connection is mostly what I am after.
Good News... sort of
My email has been holding sold for a few days, since my last post. That is with the PUSH EMAIL I set up from my website.
The other thing that I thought was rather interesting, was that I removed Windows Live and Messenger from the SETTINGS, SYSTEM, REMOVE PROGRAMS. But... Its still on my Vario iii even though it shows that it was removed and... I have yet to have a SYNC FAILURE message. It seems to be working brilliantly.
So, in conclusion, decided to keep the Vario iii especially since doing some surfing and finding some awesome accessories aswell as Games like Quake and Duke Nukem to play on it.
Have fun and good luck.
hotmail - vario 3 - pop3 imap help!!!
I am also tearing my hair apart with my vario 3 trying to get my email. I have hotmail plus surely that should do the trick....
has anyone bottomed out what the problem is? Could be of interest but my work TMob account (uk) synced fine to hotmail/push email up until the other day.
my boss emailed me the other day saying that he'd just opened his bill and found that my months access charges was £800 as web and walk wasnt enabled on the account. which it is now.
so, in summery my hotmail syncing was fine when i wasnt on web and walk. but it 90% fails to connect now its on web and walk. (not tried pop/imap yet though, just push/normail windows live setup.