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do we have a ROM in the ftp that i can flush to?

do we have a ROM in the ftp that i can flush to? thats working? just wondered if that could fix my storage folder missing problem.
a link to the directory would do it. thanks in advance!

we have lots, check wiki

i mean is with an SD Card..the following doesnt work:
O2 Asia xdaiisradio10200.zip
O2 Asia xdaiiscerom11262.zip
XDA 2s HK Eng 1.31

Would answer the question then of why they were never posted in wiki!
The radio 1.10.00 you can install as per wiki
Extneded roms you can get all applications and patches form those roms that have been cooked of wiki
The operator customization is in the kitchen on wiki
As for the 02 asian rom, well nobody has uploaded a ship.exe

that was quick.
thanks for the fast reply MDAIIIUser!
last question MDAIIIUser..do we have a solution for my Storage folder missing problem?(please!) this the problem why i wanna try to flash a ROM with an SD Card..

I dont like flashing from sd, to much work!
I still think the i-mate 162 rom of wiki is good, used it untill I had to reflash my device with all the passed Type I and Type II versions on wiki.
Then went with the 1.31 arabic and cooked my exteneded rom, added the 1.10 radio and the BT 3900.
Both of these roms work with the old tool.

ive almost tried all the ROM on the ftp..but still Storage Folder disappears after my first reset. ow yea on the my first boot i can see the storage folder and on the settings in memory i can also see the storage..its full..i guess thats one of the reason why im having this problem. any suggestions on why did this happend and afcorse a solution on how to fix this would be the nice.
thanks again MDAIIIUser!

Hmmm...first time I see this problem...
What is in the Storage Folder?

ow yea also the Extended_ROM doesnt load(ive tried all the unlock cabs doesnt work..and also flash manager errors! task manager error connection manager error all of the permanent save options..i guess cause windows cant save it or find the Storage Folder..and after first soft reset as ive said it disappears..
please anybody..there must be a solution on this?!

Looks like something is seriously messed up.
I suggest as a last resort to reinstall a complete new SHIP ROM that is closest to your original configuration...you can always upgrade later.
Look here to find the version you want and download it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
Upload the ROM to your PDA in the cradle, not via SD card. Hard reset and tell us if that is better...?

i have this problem for a long time now..so thats why ive almost tried all of them..can you imagine how much this problem is really been a pain for me? DAMN!
ow yea in order for my IIs to work..i figure the reason why i always hang is because some folders are missing..like the extended_ROM and storage folder so i made a folder with the same FileName..after ive created the Folders it almost instantly stabled(doesnt lag when i press a button or somthin) and files already in them. like on the Storage folder the PerSaveBackup Folder is instantly created.
so i guess my problem is why is it when i hardreset some folders that are really important for windows to function are missing on my phone? how can this happen?

Programs in ROM - vs. installing CAB's

I hope this is not too noob'ish a question:
What is the advantage of
1. installing (most of) your programs in a ROM,
vs.
2 having a rather clean/small ROM, and installing (a lot of) CABS afterwards?
I know 1. is a bit easier.
But is there any difference in performance?

I would say that you can't install anything into the ROM
That's why they use the ROM to fill it with the "cookers" special needs

The Advantage of Rom Installed Software:
You don't have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it saves you some time.
The Disadvantages of Rom Installed Software:
Uses Rom Memory for the original copy of files and Storage memory for anything that must be moved as part of initial setup. So anything that can't simply stay in Windows folder is duplicated elsewhere. For example if you prefer to have your programs in folders under the Program Files Folder then a program that uses 1mb will use 1mb of Rom memory and then when it is copied (remember you can't really delete Rom Files) it will use 1mb of Storage Memory also for a total of 2mb of used memory.
Can't uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
More files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it slows opening the windows folder and I believe that it does cause a general slowdown in the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Advantages of Manually Installed Software:
Saves Rom Memory which increases Storage Memory. Basically since you have everything in Storage Memory you aren't paying extra for anything as nothing took any Rom Memory.
Can uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Yes, since everything was installed into Storage Memory you can actually deleted the files to upgrade thus saving Memory.
Fewer files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it speeds-up opening the windows folder and I believe that it does affect the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Disadvantage of Manually Installed Software:
You have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it costs you some time. UC Compliant Roms can overcome this.

Well, as some cooks report: there seems to be an extra advantage of installing into ROM: everything seems to work a little smoother and faster. Don't know how or why exactly but has to do something with the after-installing process which makes the device less stabile.
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
Kyphur: I believe the second red and green titles are wrong? (I believe yoe mean Cab Installed Software?)

One of the reason that loading windows up with files slows everything down is because the are all paged & cached, depending on the settings. Once the device catches up, it's not as noticable.
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.

GSLEON3 said:
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.
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I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?

kyphur said:
I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?
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No, I don't either. But also with installing on the device there seems to be some (speed)difference in ROM installing and CAB-installing.

I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.

pietrucci said:
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
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Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?

How to actually mark as deleted files in ROM?
Hello, this is an interesting thread, and I also hope you guys know more on this, since you're explaining the concept (and I also searched for a solution, but sorry, didn't find, I might have not used the proper keywords for searching):
kyphur said:
Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
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So I flashed Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM (but which ROM it is, doesn't really matter) as my question is related to "deleting" (or at least marking as deleted) ROM files. My problem is, I want to delete \Windows\Long Send.lnk because I don't like the Comm Manager show up when holding the green Send key during a call, while I'm expecting the phone to go into speakerphone mode like used from many other phones (even my Sagem cordless at home behaves this way). The folks in this ROM's thread suggested to delete that shortcut file (which is what I think they know right if they hadn't omitted the fact that the file is in ROM), but none of the in ROM or read-only attributes can be changed with Total Commander, so I can't "delete" it. Now I understand it's supposed to be just marked as deleted as it is "in ROM", so it is supposed to survive a hard reset, but how can I mark it deleted for the time being (next ROM upgrade for example, or hard-reset)?.

pedefede said:
Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?
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No I don't have a benchmark of this. But then again: the current benchmarks (SPB and VS Benchmark) aren't that reliable.
I remember one cook from the Hermes device (maybe it was Pandora) made a ultra-lite version with an option to autorun everything afterwards with cabs.
This ROM wasn't as fast and snappy as the original full ROM. I think he quitted developing the ROM further.
Don't know if it's always true that everything's worse installing with cabs, it was just something a remembered from the past.
(by the way: I also install a lot from cabs...)

ChaOConnor said:
I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.
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the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares

calvinzhang said:
the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares
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But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation

Zoolooc said:
But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation
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That's what "UC" is for! Auto Install all of your apps. Just remember to keep the cab files updated.

For me, one of the biggest advantage of full rom is I save a lot of time in doing backup since the files in the rom already.
Another advantage of full rom is they don't need to store any files under \Windows\AppMgr since they can't be uninstall anyway.
To overcome the bad effects of full rom. I tend to consider the following when putting programs in my full rom.
1. File can be run under \Windows
2. Programs that don't change that often, or doesn't need the latest version.

RAMDISK 2- how to remove it

I recently gave my XDAII (on Ather's WM6.1) away as a gift to friend. A few days ago he told me that after changing batteries a "RAMDISK 2" suddenly appeared and that his storage/memory was now half of what it was. Needles to say he wants to go back to the standard single RAMDISK config and recover his lost storage/RAM memory. I've been searching xdadev for two days now and all I could come up with is this:
"paulpax
01-08-2008, 02:16 AM
myxxx
youve got a case of weak backup battery, and you do frequent removal or changing of your main battery. doing this can cause you ramdisk to appear and disappear for no reason at all, sometimes your OS compensates by naming a folder RAMDISK but its not really a real ramdisk, when the real ramdisk gets restored, you will have RAMDISK - not real and RAMDISK2 - real ramdisk, where RAMDISK2 has a removable storage icon, it has happened to me a lot of times, but since i dont use RAMDISK because of this, its no problem."​
Can anyone pls. tell me how to remove/delete the "phantom" RAMDISK2 and restore the full storage/memory of my friends XDAII. Thanks in advance

thats a quote from me alright. hehe.
just erase the folder RAMDISK then restart or soft reset your xda. then ramdisk2 will be named ramdisk after the restart and the old ramdisk, well you just deleted it.
also, if you installed some programs our your ramdisk, then copy those programs first to a storage card before erasing ramdisk, then just copy them back after restarting your xda.
hope that helps.

What can I delete for files?

Hi I upgraded my 9090 to WB 6.5 from Xplode latest release. I’m really happy with this and everything works fine.
In this phone the memory is only 43.2 Mb, (I have another one, broken but it has 60Mb.) and the upgrade take almost all of this.
My question is what files can I delete to have more space?
Is it possible to install the OS on a memory card?
I’m really happy with this release so I hope there is a solution.
Regard
Ola A

you should downgrade to wm2003 first and repart your storage space, so that the device also has 60mb, also, the rom takes up 32mb in the rom storage, even if there was a rom with nearly nothing inside, just the operating system itself, it would still take up 32mb, because that is the rom size. and it must be in the rom space, there is no way to install it somewhere else.
so, what you can do to gain those extra 16mb, to need to flash wm2003 and then do exactly, what i wrote here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4706441&postcount=2
in the end, flash wm6.5 back and following that guide, it will run smoothly and fast and you will have slightly more space. still, you will never have more than 60mb of internal storage, unless you pick a rom with a ramdisk, which can offer you yet another 16mb in another partition.

I’m really pleased for the solution...
Please tell me where can I find how I go back to wm2003?
You had in your mind to do the repart for the storage space as in the link you suggest?
Wye can’t I do the repart in WM 6.5?
The download for repart_doc.exe and the second file have download problems, you couldn’t have some down load alternatives...?
How can I install the OS on the Memorycard?
Regard
Ola A

1. for the downgrade to wm2003:
1.a go to firmware.atspace.com/blueangel.html
1.b look for a firmware to match your device, it doesn't matter much, but it should be either an english rom or one in your native language, i guess english would be best though.
1.c Important! Extract the rom, so you have a folder, containing files like nk.nbf, ms_.nbf, baupgradeut.exe and so on. don't just start the exe you downloaded!
1.d download maupgradeut_noid, if the rapidshare download from the link above doesn't work, search the forum for "Chef_Tony Ruu", you will find several mirrors.
1.e download "repart_doc" and "xda-unlocker.cab" also from the link or search the forum, i uploaded it many times
1.f put the maupgrade in the same folder as the nk.nbf and all the other stuff from the wm2003 rom
1.g hard reset your device by pressing reset+power and camera+record, in the menu appearing set
Enable Kitl No
Format Storage Yes
Clear Registry Hive Yes
and confirm with the mail button
1.h after the device started, switch it off and remove the sim card and sd card
1.i put your device into bootloader mode by pressing power+record+reset, the display shows Serial V2.0x, where x is a number from 5 to 7
1.j start MaUpgradeut_noID and flash the device
1.k perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset
1.l wait for the extrom to install and the following soft reset
1.m proceed with the manual from the link i gave you.
2.yes, the reparting of the useless extrom partition is, what i had in mind, it slows your device down and is just a collection of useless cab files with carrier customizations like dialer skins and wallpapers, that are installed after a hard reset in wm2003
3. it cannot be done in any os but wm2003, that is what makes this partition so useless, it is just not accessible
4. for downloading those files, if rapidshare doesn't work for you, as suggested in 1. use forum search and look for the file name, together with my name, and you will find several direct download links from the forum.
5. there is absolutely no way, the os can be installed from or to the memory card, in fact, while installing the os, the sd card may not even be inside the device, it can lead to serious damage of the device. like i explained in my earlier post, the rom does not take away any usable space anyway. you have 60mb of storage space for programs and files and 32mb rom space for the rom. if your rom is 20mb, then it is still filling up your 32mb of rom space and your storage will still be 60mb. if you have a rom with a lot of stuff inside, that is really taking up 32mb, you still have 32mb rom and 60mb storage.
that is why it is even better to take a big rom with lots of programs inside, because that way you really save space... since you don't need to install those programs in your storage space.
with best regards
Chef_Tony

A big thank you for your support. I’m now going to try this out.
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Three hour later.
Yes, now is everything done. Some hard to find WM2003 file but at last... (They who were in your link weren’t there anymore.)
Now the memory is big and clean. All my apps installed...
A happy new year
Ola A.

Possible corruption of OS?? Kaiser doing something odd.

Hi all,
I have recently flashed a new rom onto my Kaiser and have since had loads of problems with the OS. It will flash fine and runs fine for the first half hour or so then the problems begin.
Programs will fail to open saying that they are not installed, when I go into file explorer or total commander I am unable to access the "program Files" folder on the device. At this point the system then starts to run slow and eventually crashes, upon rebooting it'll do a hard reset and I'm back to the beginning.
I have had a white screen twice on rebooting stating something like the OS or file are not accessiable press any button to hard reset. I am wondering if the internal memory is knackered?
Is there anyway of testing the internal memory? Like a windows check disc for windows mobile?
If anyone has any ideas and has a solution I would be grateful.
Cheers
Blinky
Radio 1.71.09.01
Prot Ver 25.75.40.02.eMoH
Rom shifu_4.2 WWE

Try flashing a stock ROM first, then reflash with your intended ROM.

Cheers mate, worked a treat. Never needed to do that before but will remember it from now on.
Thanks again.
Blinky