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Hi,
My new Kaiser/Tytn II/P4550 (why are there so many names for it!) is arriving tomorrow.
Anyway it's on Orange, and according to many posts i've seen on various forums from other orange users - it's missing the cool black htc home screen. For some reason orange see fit to remove loads of things (MSN Live Messenger, Remote Desktop to name a few) and change the home screen to their own version.
I've searched this forum for a "HTC Home Plugin" but there's over 1,000 posts on one thread with various versions/bugs etc.
What i'm trying in a rather long winded way to do is ask...
Where can i find the most stable, best version of the Black HTC home screen?? I dont want to ruin my new toy on the first day with a buggy/broken today screen!
I suggest someone should create a sticky thread with all the latest versions of the various .cabs and then lock it so it doesnt have thousands and thousands of posts -then just edit the download links as new versions of the .cabs become available?
Cheers...

Bradley, As much as what you have posted about seems sensible and logical there are in fact various different versions about for the different models and generally the 3rd party products and programs are better than the OEM HTC apps as they are far from infallible. Because of the very nature of us all wanting things how we want it rather than how other people think we should have it (case in point you not wanting orange's incarnation) it would be a logistics nightmare keeping things up to date and in one place (although search google and you get good results) especially as there are so many different strains out there.
For an example look in the kaiser cabs posting and duttythroy has done his best to accumulate a repository of working cabs for the kaiser however there are still a lot of bugs in some of the cabs and until people get that cab and fix it then resupply it everyone will be using different versions that they have fixed better than joe bloggs over there.
One thing also to bear in mind that the HTC Home plugin is different for different countries and roms, T-Mobile is different to HTC and AT&T so someone updating the t-mobile package cant update the at&t package because they dont have the phone or able to test it and some people are reluctant to because of reasons you yourself have given "I dont want to ruin my new toy on the first day with a buggy/broken today screen!" without people willing to test and break stuff nothing ever gets fixed and therefore it ends up being the same people doing all the work over and over again.
Have a search on the google search in the main forum pages for "HTC Home Kaiser" and you should find what your looking for.
HTH
Russ

do you not see the sticky called "Collection of Latest Cabs for kaiser"? It has exactly what you are asking for.

Software recommendations for the Kaiser/Tilt wiki

I started this wiki because of many threads popping up every week about newbies wanting to get more software for their shiny, new Kaisers. There is a lot of stuff out there so I thought that I would start gathering some common and popular applications in one spot, organize them intuitively, and post them for the world to see. Let me know what you think. Feel free to add it yourself or post in this thread and I'll add it myself.
Software recommendations for the Kaiser wiki
To Do:
- Continue adding software, free/pay status, and information about each entry
- Possibly organize it a bit better
- Add a table of contents if I can figure it out
- Alphabetize the entries

Hi I'm pretty new here, in my Signature is the all the useful stuff I have come across so far, hope it helps.

Core Player
I think CorePlayer is missing in the video section. Its a pay software. Thanks for starting this wiki

Thanks both of you guys. I'll get those things added today probably.

Noobies, Roms & Program Compatibility Issues...

I have been a Windows Mobile user for quite some time. I was a lurker in these thread begining in the 2002 & then Blue Angel days. I didn't really start try to contribute until the Kaiser came around. By this time I had spent 2 years watching, learning & reading. I also still consider myself very much new to CE & embeded devices.
One of the biggest complaints, the highest number of posts revolve around program compatibility issues with roms, both OEM & chef prepared.
One of the things most overlooked is the effect that installed programs can have upon each other. But it's not just the apps themselves that can cause issues.
Did you know that apps can both work or not work depending on the order they were installed? Have you ever wondered why a certain program just works for most, but not for you?
Before jumping to conclusions & thinking it must be something that the chef did that prevents you from using that favorite application, think about all of the programs you install & realize that many of them have to interact with parts of the OS at the same time & each program affects both the system & registry & hence can also affect each other in turn.
I have seen suggestions from others, particularly Kyphur, suggesting you to start over with installs. This is good solid advice. Install a few, see that they work & keep a few notes on the order of installation & what has issues when.
One point often overlooked, is that the order in which you install programs can have a great & varied effect on what works & what doesn't.
For instance, I know that with some Dutty roms that my favorite SIP, Teksoft FingerTouch, will not work if I install it before SPB Pocket Plus. I haev issues with BlackBerry Connect many times if I don't install it as one of my first applications.
You need to remember, that these roms are written by many different people. The are partly written by the Manufacturer, partly by Microsoft, influenced by OEM's & carriers, altered by chefs & then you are installing a dozen programs written by at least that number of developers. That leaves a lot of variables in which something can very easily go wrong.
Know your applications, always install your priority apps first, & don't install a high number of apps manually without a reset. You are much more likely to have issues mass installing apps than you are when you install a few, soft-reset, test them out & then continue your installation process.
Today alone, I had 6 messages about programs not working. For a few of these I installed the same rom, & after changing the installation order, I had no issues.
There are too many variables in these systems & their programs to think you can just install everything the same & always have it all work. Sometimes you need to take a little initiative & try something new, a different way.
The same can be said for Auto installers, UC & Shashimi. Installation order can make a difference. Now hopefully I get a few less messages about this, LOL, yeah right.

Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.

My thoughts exactly as I happened to be online during Leo's Diamond v.1 feeding frenzy and the day the TyTn II update came out. Then reading the follow up soon later. Such as wait a minute, this is crap. It doesn't work with Igo , It doesn't work with HHC and on and on. Like Leo or HTC was supposed to load every obscure piece of kit ,to make sure that all of you could load your phones with garbage and they will still work as smooth as day one.
A little prethought and common sense go a long way. Well said GSLEON.
Edit: And congrats AllTheWay on the promo.Well deserved
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AllTheWay said:
Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.
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I read it makes sense too
-McMex

Great post! Now to get the noobs to read...

GSLEON3 said:
This is good solid advice.
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It most certainly is. I didn't know this info before. Thanks GS.

i've read it

footnotes please? lol j/k
Seriously great post how many will read. Make sticky!!!

thanks for the post

Great information GSLeon (as usual). That's why I prefer clean/lite ROMs, and installing the apps myself. I didn't know the reason - just noticed I had less (ie no) problems doing it my way. Now I know why!

This is also basic troubleshooting... This is exactly why when you come to a thread asking for help (particularly cooked roms) the first question the chef will usually ask is:
What all have you, or what do you have installed...
Most chefs wont even begin to consider YOUR issue a problem until this base has been covered. Installation of programs is the #1 cause of issues when dealing with the billion variable cooked roms.
My best advice is to actually spend the time knowing your programs, know what they depend on, know what goes where (kinda like sex ed). If you want everything to work straight out of the box without any fine tuning then your probably in the wrong place!

Excellent Post!!!
Thanks for the info GSLEON!!!!
I have had my Tilt since Oct 07......having never owned a Windows based product ever before I read this forum like is was war and peace.....also never creating a thread just searching, searching, searching!
I have ran into this before and have a word doc with the order to install when flashing anew
Thanks for the great post and all of your help in the past.

I agree with most of what you're saying GS except for one instance that is messing with me. I jus bought a TyTn II to replace my water damaged Tilt. I bought it here from the U.S. but the box says Singapore. I flashed the WM6.1 update and everything is cool except for the HTC weather. This is a HTC application and they should have gotten it right b4 releasing the Rom. Things that come STANDARD with an OEM ROM should automatically work. All the 3rd party stuff that you said I do agree with. Now, anybody know how to fix this little issue?

Well said! Consider myself as wery fresh on CE, this can probobly be repeated to the even more advance user as it is easy to forget that every brick plays a part on how the device acts. When I am starting on a new rom the first 2-3 days goes to the setup, alot of testing and hard resets. Its easy to forgett the fact: what worked yestoday on duttys rom does not automaticly work today on Laurentius26 (or any other chefs) rom.

[RESOLVED] In-Call Volume

Hi All,
The 'In Call' volume is so low that I cannot hear the person on the other end of the call - they sound like the are far away.
I've looked at several threads here and on other sites recommending changes to the AudioPara & AudioPara3 files as well as some registry tweaks ... no luck! To rule out the possibility of a bad phone, I tested my wife's touch as well ... same result - purchased to identical units; makes it easier to support.
I would greatly appreciate any insight from seasoned experts.
Advance thanks,
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Appears to be an issue with the 1.90.707.1 WWE ROM that AudioPara3 doesn't resolve. It doesn't happen on all TouchPRO/Fuze ... so it's possible that the ROM may not be compatible with certain hardware revisions.
5.05.xxx.x WWE ROM's do not exhibit this problem.
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ROM Version: 1.90.707.1 WWE
ROM Date : 08/01/08
Radio Version: 1.02.25.19
Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U

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Make sure that there is no tape pasted on the speeker ! That what i did ~

Just checked ... nope, pulled the protective plastic off when I took both unit out of the box.

hilareg i wouldn't be surprised if you get banned for spam on this website three problems all posted in a row. Please search for all your problems. There is an audiobooster.cab file around search for it, or go to the Rom Development thread and go to the RRE 4.5SE and go down about 4-6 posts the cab is posted for download there.

Hi mikemorris,
I posted three separate problems as I see them as being such; appologies if it was interpreted as being spam
I did try the audiobooster.cab and unfortunately, it did not address the issue with the In-Call Volume - hence the reason I posted the ROM details on my HTC as I suspect it may be a ROM related bug.
Cheers,

if its a ROM you downloaded here, then all these porblems should be consolidated to the ROMs main thread.

Appreciate the response,
I have no issue with consolidating these to a specific ROM thread; but since these are the initial ROMs that were on the Fuze(s) when I purchased them, I figured I would post here first.
Cheers,

Complete dummy (guide)

Please can one of you clever people help me. I have read loads of posts and sticky's but remain totally confused. Let me lay it out:
The first smart phone i had was a motorola A1000. using a symbian operating system. This was a quite a few years ago and I played with this loads, flashing it, making it a remote for my tv, etc. Since then I have got married, had kids, got two jobs, blah blah and totally fallen out of the loop. I used an SPVM500 on Orange as standard for a couple of years and then an HTC Touch as standard for the last couple of years. Never bothering to play or flash or fiddle.
Two days ago I upgraded to the HD which I was happyish with until someone told me I had a great phone, the best phone, infact even better than an Iphone, but within a month it would be out of date because it uses an old operating system (which lets be honest, isnt great) and I would have no access to a new iphone type store, easier menu's, iphone rival home screen etc
Now reading on here, it seems i need to flash my phone to a new Windows Mobile 6.5 release, which I assume will then make it the best phone ever again!!
Right, if thats correct and I have understood right so far I have only two questions
1. Why so many of these roms - is there not a simple list where the best one goes on top when its released
2. Is there a link to a very simple, some may even say slightly retarded, explanation on how to hold phone in one hand and magic rom impregnator in the other and let them bump uglies? I have seen a post by crackwhore (I assume you arent really one, althuogh if you are will you sort my phone for me for a small rock?) but still remain unsure of some of the language, processes and of course, which ROM to use
Basically, I want the ROM that makes everything work to the best of its ability. I also need and use office apps and want to put my tomtom mobile 6 on to it too
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Please accept my sincere apologies for being inexcusably slow - I am starting to feel like my dad needing to be tought how to text.

Hi,
Flashing a ROM is now childs play. All you need to do is put Hard SPL on your phone (See Crackwhore's step by step guide or the wiki articles on the Blackstone), and then download and flash your ROM. Hard SPL allow's you to flash custom ROMs BTW.
There is no best ROM by the way. It's too subjective, Alice's favourite ROM maybe nothing like Bob's, etc... I'd try one of the more popular ROM's on the Front page (Personally I started on Dutty's ROM's many years ago). There are so many ROM's because different people like different things (some are WM6.1, some are 6.5, some have lot's of apps, some have none).
Take your time to read through wiki articles, they go through ROM flashing step by step. All the information is there.
Thanks
Dave

1. There is soo many roms because everyone has different likes and dislikes. Some are based on WM6.1 and either 1.19, 1.56 or 1.57. Some are based on WM6.5
People have tried previously to make a list, but to judge which is better is a different story and a whole new can of worms.
Check out the wiki and section on roms. You'll find a list (slightly out of date) listing roms. Link to wiki in my signature
2. If you follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide you'll have no problems. If you don't want to follow the whole guide, I'd recommend using new HSPL 1.56. Someone on "cRaCKwHoRe's guide" thread will help you out if you get stuck. Link to guide and HSPL in my signature.
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Arrrgh!!!........I see DavidShaw beat me too it!!!! LOL

Then again if you just got your phone, why the need to flash it right away?
I would play with it for a while, install a few apps here, read through some tweaking guides there. Eventually you will learn to use the phone, and thus also learn how to use your phone. If you have been out of the loop for some time, let it grow on you before you manipulate your newly acquired device. It is a great phone, even without all the roms out there. Many aspects of the newer roms out there can be achieved by installing some apps. Granted not all of the newer features are available on the stock rom (calendar tab for example).
Once you start flashing you will always want more, let me tell you that . So enjoy your phone for a while before you start experimenting.

Ati75 said:
Then again if you just got your phone, why the need to flash it right away?
I would play with it for a while, install a few apps here, read through some tweaking guides there. Eventually you will learn to use the phone, and thus also learn how to use your phone. If you have been out of the loop for some time, let it grow on you before you manipulate your newly acquired device. It is a great phone, even without all the roms out there. Many aspects of the newer roms out there can be achieved by installing some apps. Granted not all of the newer features are available on the stock rom (calendar tab for example).
Once you start flashing you will always want more, let me tell you that . So enjoy your phone for a while before you start experimenting.
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Good advice.
Yes definately get to know your device and read up on the wiki. If after all of this you want to flash, at least you'll be prepared

great advice, thanks all - will try and get tt6 working first as thats what is really annoying me most!!

mineistaken said:
great advice, thanks all - will try and get tt6 working first as thats what is really annoying me most!!
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Your problem is that your most likely not using correct version of tomtom. TT7 is out, but you'll need to check which build or version of 7 works on the HD.
Go to Themes, Applications and Software forum and do a search for tomtom. I've started you off with these 2 threads:
TomTom On HD
TomTom - What Version??
Hope this helps

fantastc - thanks so much. will be bedtime reading for me tonight
(its the same tt6 i had on my touch. i have just taken the mini sd card out of one and into the other which has the .cab files and maps already on it)

mineistaken said:
fantastc - thanks so much. will be bedtime reading for me tonight
(its the same tt6 i had on my touch. i have just taken the mini sd card out of one and into the other which has the .cab files and maps already on it)
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I'd keep all your files, especially the maps etc. Go onto one of the threads I listed above, probably the first is the best one and they'll be able to guide you in the right direction. I'd imagine your maps should work on another version.
I have version TomTom 7_910.9185 working with no problems. If you PM with your email address I'll happily email it to you. I do however believe their is some newer versions, though some have had problems with them