I came across this while browsing the registry on my Wizard
Enter the following in the dialpad as if it were a phone number:
*#*#364#*#*
You will access an engineering page which shows the cell tower you're connected to, and a whole lot of other radio-related info.
It does'nt work on mine.
Juste type *#*#364#*#* and press talk ?
But, you can activate it, by launching \windows\GSMTestMode.exe
Running on WM6
You have to enable it from the registry too using most ROMs.
Worked for me... Kind of cool...
I noticed the RSSI on "neighboring cell information" Does anyone know how to actually get a real dbm signal level?
-Padawan
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can someone up the .exe and tell me which registry key to change
Didn't need the exe or do any reg editing for it to work here...
Just key in the # sequence as you would dial a #.
Just my .02c.
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Didn't need the exe or do any reg editing for it to work here...
Just key in the # sequence as you would dial a #.
Just my .02c.
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You must make sure that "HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\EngineerMode\BuildInEngineeringModeApp" is set to "1"
TestMode / EngineerMode in HTC HD
I am very interested in this kind of functionality.
I have try dialing *#*#364#*#* but it does not work on HTC HD.
The \windows\GSMTestMode.exe is not in HTC HD
I could not find either the key "HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\EngineerMode\BuildInEngineering ModeApp".
Does anyone know how to activate it in HTC HD or an third party application?
so what
after change something in registry you have to make a soft-reset
it works but i can't do anything in this menus
atmospherico, do you mean it works for you in a HTC HD?
what was the way you use?
You were talking about changes in the registry but, at least in my HTC HD, there is no "HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\EngineerMode\BuildInEnginee ring ModeApp" key. How did you manage it?
You just have change with regedit the "BuildInEngineeringModeApp" Key to "1" in HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\EngineerMode\ than You just make a soft reset and type *#*#364#*#* (you can change it also with regedit) in your phonepad
but you can only look to the parameters its not possible to change it
it works with my wizzard an the CR86_Touch_HD_1.6_Fixed rom
I tested with the latest official ROM and it does nor work. I created the key and reset but at dialing I just get an error message from the operator
Anyone know if this would be possible. I would luv to get this phone. Am using a tytn at the moment on softbank network. Considering purchasing a Kaiser from overseas on next business trip to bring back to Tokyo and give it a whirl.
Thanks,
Theoretically it is possible as the radios and sim cards should be compatible.
However, the Softbank AP for the flat rate data plan has not been cracked. Yet. There are a few people with Treo 750s that are also interested in seeing this password revealed - as well as me. I would like to try the Libra - or perhaps even the Omni or Wings (when and if they debut) if they have the right radios.
If you don't mind paying more for data, then the expensive/slow data connection to Softbank is possible.
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Anyone know if this would be possible. I would luv to get this phone. Am using a tytn at the moment on softbank network. Considering purchasing a Kaiser from overseas on next business trip to bring back to Tokyo and give it a whirl.
Thanks,
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Here's the interesting thing. Ordered a Kaiser from UK via DHL (delivered in 3 days!) and today when I stuck in my Softbank SIM, I found that the Kaiser (TytnII) software automatically detected that I was on Softbank and automatically installed the connection settings for Softbank. I am able to surf using that auto configured connection though I cannot confirm this is the connection that uses the flat rate 3G thing. More investigation needed.
There's been tonnes of posts on how people can setup a link using software/hacks/whatever to access the flat rate software package but haven't had enough time to check it out.
At the moment, except a direct HSDPA (as indicated by the icon) internet link, there's no MMS or SMS (!) so I need to figure out why; latter might be because MMS and SMS seems to share the same mailbox now so maybe because I've not setup mms as yet, even SMS won't come in
Boy, why has everything in Japan got to be so complicated...
Auto-configured the connection huh? Cool trick. It should be easy to check.
The access point name of the flat rate connection is open.softbank.ne.jp. I believe the non-flat rate connection is [email protected] (or something like that).
You should be able to check by looking at Settings>Connections>Manage my existing connections, then select edit to view the particulars for the Softbank connection.
As far as SMS/MMS, you hit the nail right on the head. I have had troubles with the integrated SMS/MMS mailbox here in Japan with various ROMs for my Hermes. It might (big might) be possible to overwrite your SMS/MMS software with a previous verson of Arcsoft MMS that has separate mailboxes. That might (again, big might, never tried it before) free up your SMS. If that succeeds, we can get you to try installing MMSlite.
Hi!
I know this is off topic, sorry about that.
But is there a recent 2007 'how to install Japanese support' on a TyTn II?
I have read a lot and some of it is scary !!
Sorry again to jump in on your thread !
Ofiaich
ofiaich said:
Hi!
I know this is off topic, sorry about that.
But is there a recent 2007 'how to install Japanese support' on a TyTn II?
I have read a lot and some of it is scary !!
Sorry again to jump in on your thread !
Ofiaich
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Ofiaich - no, no, don't worry about the off-topic post.
And you don't ever need to be scared of modding your phone as long as you have a backup utility. I recommend SPB Backup, but some are fond of Sprite.
The Kaiser is a relatively new device so you are kind of flying blind. However, since both machines run WM6, many of the same packages should be viable. Let's start with the directions found in Make your X01HT a WM6 Device (for Gaijins)
Now time to have your Hermes speak Japanese
Japanese fonts
Use the excellent work from Asukal, that you can find here:
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Japanese input
Not using for myself, but these work perfectly (I tried):
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/BagojsINPUT.zip
If you prefer a Japanese input without the annoying "Floating bar", ie just the same input way as your original WM5 Softbank ROM, just downlaod and install the "MS IME31 J" link from Asukal's page:
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
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I believe that these files are generic for WM5/6, and that they should work on any QVGA machine. The picture from Asukal's page shows them working on an Alpine, so they are not specific to Hermes.
The following directions however, might be specific to the Hermes, as they are registry settings for the keyboard. The above packages should actually automatically change the two HKCU registry entries below.
To map properly your Softbank Keyboard, do the following registry modifications:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hexadecimal base)
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload] "Default"= e0010411
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1] "Default"= e0010411
More details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...keyboard+x01HT
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I am really interested in helping you (i.e. using you as a guinea pig) as I am also interested in importing different devices for use in Japan and need Japanese support.
thanks very much larsuck !
I sent you a PM !
I have found some of those pages before! I am an absolute beginner for Windows Mobile so some procedures are a bit daunting !
I hope to get a TyTn II very soon ! Saving up and trading old phones etc!
I will read your links again thoroughly and come back to you!
Ofiaich
I purchased Kaiser.
There was environment I displayed Japanese, and to be able to beat against Japanese with Atok.
I tested SB in Kaiser with usable ConnSBM_ORE2h.zip, but Password was not formed.
I think that Password is made if I do not understand that I make ORE2cert.cab for Kaiser, and it is possible for this.
Maro,
So, let me just make sure I understand: you have a Kaiser, and that the Kaiser can read Japanese, and that you can input Japanese using third-party software called ATOK.
That is good news for our friend ofiaich.
Now, I understand you tried to install Softbank's flat rate connection set up using ConnSBM.cab, ORE2cert.cab, Out.xml, and WIFIwake.exe, all four of these files being the ones used for the Hermes. (There is also a package for Universal called ConnSBM_ORE2u.zip.)
And you say that you can make a ORE2cert.cab for Kaiser and if you do that then the password will be made?
If that is so, then that is great! But I have a feeling that you don't need a new ORE2cert.cab. The ORE2cert.cab for the Hermes and the ORE2cert.cab for the Universal seem to be the exact same file.
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Auto-configured the connection huh? Cool trick. It should be easy to check.
The access point name of the flat rate connection is open.softbank.ne.jp. I believe the non-flat rate connection is [email protected] (or something like that).
You should be able to check by looking at Settings>Connections>Manage my existing connections, then select edit to view the particulars for the Softbank connection.
As far as SMS/MMS, you hit the nail right on the head. I have had troubles with the integrated SMS/MMS mailbox here in Japan with various ROMs for my Hermes. It might (big might) be possible to overwrite your SMS/MMS software with a previous verson of Arcsoft MMS that has separate mailboxes. That might (again, big might, never tried it before) free up your SMS. If that succeeds, we can get you to try installing MMSlite.
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Ok, bit of progress. Can verify that the auto-configured connection (which works fine) is the non-flat rate connection so would strongly advise folks to be careful in using it.
Installed MMSlite and ended up having constant irritating reports that storage memory is full! No way MMSlite can occupy so much memory! Anyway, ended up having to hard reset. Once reset, this time I installed CE Star to provide japanese font support and then installed MMSlite. Worked a treat. Can confirm I can receive both MMS and SMS but at the moment can only send SMS; MMS is no go as that 'special S!Mail' mail box will not allow phone number as destination. I think the S!Mail MMS mail box is configured as a normal email mail box so is expecting an email address or something. Next is to find how to get access to the flat rate connection so time to dig the archives...
Any other fellow Japanese Kaiser users who can share some experiences?
Thanks Larsuck for the comments and tips....
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Ok, bit of progress. Can verify that the auto-configured connection (which works fine) is the non-flat rate connection so would strongly advise folks to be careful in using it.
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Well, that's a bummer, but as Softcrank keeps their flat-rate settings top top secret, it was also to be expected.
Can confirm I can receive both MMS and SMS but at the moment can only send SMS; MMS is no go as that 'special S!Mail' mail box will not allow phone number as destination. I think the S!Mail MMS mail box is configured as a normal email mail box so is expecting an email address or something.
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This is how MMSlite normally works, unfortunately. It can't send to phone numbers (or at least I have never been able to do so). However, build 275 has a function that, when you try to send an MMS to a phone number, it looks up the phone number in your contacts list and gives you a list of 'real' email addresses to choose from. Of course, there have been stability issues reported with build 275.
Question here: did your Kaiser have the joined SMS/MMS inbox? Or were the inboxes separate before you installed MMSlite? I have had trouble with the joined SMS/MMS inbox on some Hermes ROMs on Softbank.
Next is to find how to get access to the flat rate connection so time to dig the archives...
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Happy hunting! I (and a slew of other Japanese cell phone otaku) have been looking and digging and decoding and packet-sniffing and begging to try to get our hands on the password. The pre-April 1st connection informaiton is out there, but unfortunately they shut that connection down.
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This is how MMSlite normally works, unfortunately. It can't send to phone numbers (or at least I have never been able to do so). However, build 275 has a function that, when you try to send an MMS to a phone number, it looks up the phone number in your contacts list and gives you a list of 'real' email addresses to choose from. Of course, there have been stability issues reported with build 275.
Question here: did your Kaiser have the joined SMS/MMS inbox? Or were the inboxes separate before you installed MMSlite? I have had trouble with the joined SMS/MMS inbox on some Hermes ROMs on Softbank.
Happy hunting! I (and a slew of other Japanese cell phone otaku) have been looking and digging and decoding and packet-sniffing and begging to try to get our hands on the password. The pre-April 1st connection informaiton is out there, but unfortunately they shut that connection down.
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Thanks for the info relating to MMSlite; think I have build 275 so could give it a shot I guess.
My Kaiser did indeed have the joined SMS/MMS box prior to installing MMSlite; post-installation they're still joined. What type of trouble did you have just out of curiosity? I've yet to have any issues.
Bummer, thought there existed some means of generating the password etc etc using some really convoluted means of installation in xda forums? So I take it there currently exists no means of accessing the Softbank flat rate connection outside of using the original Japanese mobile? I thought there was a post that would auto-populate the password field after the convoluted setup?
Yes, there is a convoluted process like that. Unfortunately, it depends on an .exe file called WIFIwake.exe that is device specific. There is an .exe for the Hermes and one for the Universal - none for the Kiaser yet. If you would like to try either of those links, they are
here
If you have the knowhow to delve into an .exe file and make the right changes (I have compared the files and there are only two changes to make it seems), I know you will make more than a few people happy. Needless to say, I don't have any idea how to even start editing programs.
I have been searching, trying to find a work around for a couple of months now. At first, I had been looking for the password itself, but I don't know that it is such a good idea for the password to get out. That's what happened before, and in response Softbank closed down that access point and switched to the current one.
So, now I'm looking for a solution in the form of a .cab or registry hack - one that can be used on a wider range of machines. If and when I succeed, I will post to this form and you can give it a shot.
I tried two ROMs with the SMS/MMS joined mailbox. The first one was Black Satin, and on that ROM the SMS wouldn't send or recieve. I didn't even keep that ROM long enough to check MMSlite. The second ROM was T-Lite by edhass. That ROM had no problems sending and recieving SMS, but when I installed MMSlite it created a separate mailbox called MMS1. So, everytime I would go to send a MMS, it would automatically try to send it using the joined SMS/MMS settings and it wouldn't go through. So, it wasn't that it didn't work, it was just kind of a pain in the ass.
Hi!
ordered the TyTn II and, with luck, it should be with me tomorrow!
At the latest Monday before 1.00pm!
I am an absolute beginner with Windows Mobile, and yes, I will RTFM thoroughly and also search and search.....
But if anyone can help with like an Idiots Guide to Installing Japanese, I would be grateful!
larsuck, I have downloaded the files that you told me about, from the post on the 19th!
Good weekend for all!
Ofiaich
Patched WIFIwake from Chaimd
Huzzah! Huzzah!
Chaimd has apparently patched WIFIwake to work for Kaiser!
With this, Kaiser users should now be able to get the flat-rate Softbank connection working.
First, here is the thread where Chaimd first posted this info and the patched WIFIwake: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031&page=11
Read it first, because there is something about CID-unlocking the Kaiser and memorizing the Pre-unlocked CID. I will alert Chaimd to this thread and hopefully he can answer questions.
Thank you, larsuck. I'll try to explain the working WIFIwake.exe on Kaiser, in my terribly poor English.
Now, we can connect to the flat-rate Softbank access point, to patch and sign WIFIwake.exe.
That WIFIwake works copmpletely on my Kaiser. But that method depends on;
Pre-Unlock CID must be known!
CID unlocked, I used Pof's Hard-SPL.
Patching WIFIWake.exe;
01C760h "KAIS1300KAIS1300", 16 chars in UTF-16.
01C784h Pre-Unlock CID, 8 chars in UTF-16.
01C798h Pre-Unlock CID, 8 chars in UTF-16.
Self-Signing WIFIwake.exe
To Install not only connSBM.cab, Out.xml ans WIFIwake.exe,
but also your Self-Signing CAB file.
If you understand Japanese, you can get some informations of Kaiser & WIFIwake in this blog;
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/chai99/20071008
Now if you don't mind me asking, how do you use a non-japanese sim based phone on softbank with a data contract (not technically) but actually like go about it? As i go back and forth between japan frequently and in ~6 months will be moving there again for a year or two. Last time i lived there, I never had a mobile. Times change and now i need one for sure while there. I'd love to use a Kaiser that I have on hold at AT&T (can get it completely unlocked...). I thought they don't give SIM cards on there pre-paid phones...
@Philz,
If you get a cheap phone from softbank with a voice plan, you can use the sim card from that in your Kaiser. If your Kaiser is unlocked, the sim card should allow text and voice without messing with any settings. There is also a .cab program called Carrier Settings Wizard (or some such) that is floating around in the Hermes threads. It might be able to set up the (non-flat-rate) data settings for Softbank.
If you are a heavy data user and want a flat-rate data plan then, after signing up for one, you would need to apply the treatment that we are discussing here. However, from what chaimd says it doesn't sound easy.
Unfortunately, contracts from Softbank are usually for two years - not ideal for someone who is always traveling back and forth. Depending on how long you are in Japan, it might be cheaper just to roam here until you make the move.
@chaimd,
You said you used Pof's tool. Is your Kaiser Super-CID? It seems strange that the CID must be known if the device is Super-CID.
Also, you said:
"5. To Install not only connSBM.cab, Out.xml ans WIFIwake.exe,
but also your Self-Signing CAB file. "
What is this Self-Signing CAB file? Do you mean the patched WIFIwake?
Or perhaps ORE2Cert?
Will the ORE2Cert from the Hermes package work with the Kaiser?
Hi, larsuck! I'm writing on Kiser through the flat-rate Softbank connection, now.
First: Is my Kaiser Super-CID?
Yes, my Kaiser is Super-CID. First, I checked "info 2" command, after the installation of pof's Hard-SPL. As WIFIwake works on my unlocked Treo750, and I jumped and thought "Yes! Super-CID! WIFIwake will work without patches!", ..... but it does'nt generate the password in real. Indeed, it is strange. I was confused.
We tried many many patterns of patching WIFIwake, but WIFIwake did'nt generate the pass, and we spent a few days. Finally, one of us found the right way! and we've got to the flat-rate Softbank connection. We found pre-unlocked CID was known to work WIFIwake on Hard-SPL Kaiser. I don't know why?
2nd: What is self-siging cab file?
The itamae's WIFIwake has already been signed by him to work without a ROM cooking. ORE2Cert, ore-ore-certification means self-sign certification in Japanese, is his signature to allow execute a previllaged code for WindowsMobile devices. But, if you patch the WIFIwake, WindowsMobile rejects it as a illeagal modified code. Then, you must re-sign WIFIwake, and install yor own Self-Sign-Cert.cab with your WIFIwake. You need to make your own Self-Sign-Cert CAB file. ORE2Cert.cab from the Hermes package does'nt work on Kaiser.
I described how to make Self-Sign files without VisualStudio in my blog. It's almost the minimum procedure of self-siging, but it's in Japanese.
Aloha All,
I can't find the field test program in my tilt. Or maybe it's not there? If it is not where might it get it.
Much Mahalos in advance...
I think this is what you're looking for.
HERE
That's the program that I need. I work for AT&T Operations and will use it to test the network on Kauai. Thanks and mahalo.
No worries .. another satisfied customer
dniitani said:
That's the program that I need. I work for AT&T Operations and will use it to test the network on Kauai. Thanks and mahalo.
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I am not here to be a critic, but man if you really work for AT&T you would know that you don't need the Field Test application to enter into the field test mode. For instance on the AT&T Tilt to enter the field test mode WITHOUT the Field Test application is *#*#364#*#*. Just my thoughts.
OK so is there a way to turn this on via the USB port?
I am looking for the steps to enable a 2nd diagnostic port and have this same data sent out the USB port Can you help me with that?
KDKobes said:
I am not here to be a critic, but man if you really work for AT&T you would know that you don't need the Field Test application to enter into the field test mode. For instance on the AT&T Tilt to enter the field test mode WITHOUT the Field Test application is *#*#364#*#*. Just my thoughts.
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Very nice, didn't know you could use that code. I ended up making a shortcut icon for it.
Just use Windows Mobile itself!
Set the File Explorer to show all files and navigate to the /Windows folder. There you will find FieldTest.exe , copy it and then navigate to wherever you want and paste as shortcut.
KDKobes said:
I am not here to be a critic, but man if you really work for AT&T you would know that you don't need the Field Test application to enter into the field test mode. For instance on the AT&T Tilt to enter the field test mode WITHOUT the Field Test application is *#*#364#*#*. Just my thoughts.
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damn do you know any more codes?
A few. I will gather a list and post them later.
What is a field test?
dniitani said:
That's the program that I need. I work for AT&T Operations and will use it to test the network on Kauai. Thanks and mahalo.
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Interesting, Operations huh. So i guess your regional supervisor is jack, Tell him I said hi. Since i cover the northeast region. Not to meddle, but don't you have all the test equipment provided to you by AT&T that is far more extensive than a field test mode on a tilt?? I mean damn go to any tower and use your AT&T provided test equipment, then tap into the switch. Operations HUH, I always thought we go by the name "Field Technician" guess i missed that memo.
test mode cell site id?
I am a contractor that builds cell sites for AT&T in Southern CA. We also install BDA's for customers that have poor indoor coverage. I am using the tilt and cannot figure out how to get the cell site id to show up while in test mode. Is the field test mode capable of showing this? Is there another program that I could install to have this ability? Having this ability would allow me to determine where the cell site is located in order to properly orient the donor antennas when we are doing a field. Also, does anyone have a link for what all the field test information is and what it means? I know most of them but a few of them are new to me. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
MAC
macleanbs said:
I am a contractor that builds cell sites for AT&T in Southern CA. We also install BDA's for customers that have poor indoor coverage. I am using the tilt and cannot figure out how to get the cell site id to show up while in test mode. Is the field test mode capable of showing this? Is there another program that I could install to have this ability? Having this ability would allow me to determine where the cell site is located in order to properly orient the donor antennas when we are doing a field. Also, does anyone have a link for what all the field test information is and what it means? I know most of them but a few of them are new to me. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
MAC
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http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ril.html
RIL_GetCellTowerInfo
For an implementation: http://dalelane.co.uk/blog/?p=241
http://maps.alphadex.de/index.php?section=mylocation
For non-coders: http://fucawi.com/mobile.php = FindMe app.
Load, go to the, "Menu," and check, "Status." Your CellID is displayed.
macleanbs said:
I am a contractor that builds cell sites for AT&T in Southern CA. We also install BDA's for customers that have poor indoor coverage. I am using the tilt and cannot figure out how to get the cell site id to show up while in test mode. Is the field test mode capable of showing this? Is there another program that I could install to have this ability? Having this ability would allow me to determine where the cell site is located in order to properly orient the donor antennas when we are doing a field. Also, does anyone have a link for what all the field test information is and what it means? I know most of them but a few of them are new to me. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
MAC
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Damn A BDA Repeater, those people must have some cash, I have one in my house but it was given to me by AT&T. Sorry don't know what relevancy that has.
KDKobes said:
A few. I will gather a list and post them later.
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Sorry for nagging, but ...
Any chance of seeing some more of these "secret" codes (or an indication of where I can get them myself ;-))
KDKobes said:
I am not here to be a critic, but man if you really work for AT&T you would know that you don't need the Field Test application to enter into the field test mode. For instance on the AT&T Tilt to enter the field test mode WITHOUT the Field Test application is *#*#364#*#*. Just my thoughts.
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When you work for companies they don't tend to tell their employees stuff like this, during training they probably only told him/her about the field test program because that is what they want them to use.
arabbitte said:
Sorry for nagging, but ...
Any chance of seeing some more of these "secret" codes (or an indication of where I can get them myself ;-))
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I use my old Nokia 6600 with CellTrack application installed (http://www.afischer-online.de/sos/celltrack/index.html). It has an internal database created from a .csv file where I have loaded all the cellId, Lac, Network name, Site Name and descrition of all the radiobase station managed by me for my company (I work in Wind tlc).
I immagine an application for my Tytn that collecting the cellId and Lac (and ofcourse signal strenght) could perform a quick search in the database to load other info about name, description and address.
May be someone could write down an application like this?
sorry for bad english..
ciao
fausto
CellTrack is great but
CellTrack is great but we need a similar application for Windows mobiles. I am a telco professional as well and so many fellow eng use Kaiser. Sure we have tools as well, but sometimes we like to play with cell infos when we are not at work. Telco is our hobbi as well
riping data
Hi there,
is there a posible way to get all info saved to a file as seen in the 'field test' program.
has anybody managed to get this working on the X1? I've tried a few java beds and currently on tnt thanks to another thread to get sky+ mobile record working but no luck on entering log in for SI. Their site says compatible with HTC / winmo devices so should be a way? thank
You have provided inaccurate information. There is no cuch application...
The company "sportingindex" has a mobile app called "Bet On The Move". If that's the app you are asking about, provide a download link and I'll try it.
Sorry orlesi, yes that's the app I meant. Link here
Just can't get any keystrokes into the i.d. or password boxes from on screen or hardwear keyboard.
Well, it's weird, but you'll have to use the number keys to enter the information. When you hold the blue button and activate the numbers on the keyboard you can use them as a keypad on a regular phone, the one with several letters for every number. It's kinda annoying and bizarre, but you'll get used to it.
Cheers .
I'd not thought of that, bizarre! thanks very much