I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
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As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.
My Kaiser just arrived in the mail, and it came preloaded with DCS 1.7 rom. Since this ROM has already been loaded, I assume the the CID is already unlocked and HARD SPL has already been run once.
So does this mean I don't have to run it again to flash to Dutty's latest rom? Thanks.
not a good assumption, as there are other ways of flashing without hardspl. just put the device in bootloader and see if it says.....something with olipof in it. if that's the case the case then you have hardspl
And if I have HARD SPL, then I just go ahead and flash the Dutty ROM?
Giving Wise Educational Noob Instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904
Thanks. I read through a lot of that stuff already.
I just checked and HARD SPL is already on the phone. So now it's safe to flash Dutty's rom?
Soounds like you have your answer
Well, it sounds like you've checked so if you're sure, flash away. Although, if you haven't already, I'd do a id10t check first to be doubly sure (i.e. press the camera button+Power button+soft reset) and verify you have Hardspl installed otherwise you run the risk of brickin your phone.
~Gwen
it doesnt hurt to do it again? or am i wrong? its just to be on the safe side
Hi,
Just a quick question (not sure if this should be in the ROM section...)
I updated the ROM on my TD and I followed the steps of putting HardSPL on and, then the new ROM.
I now want to upgrade the radio on it, and it says you need HardSPL and then follow steps again.
My question is, if I put on HardSPL for the ROM, is it still there, or does it get wiped when the phone get flashed for the new ROM? Hence, would i need to reintall HardSPL!
Prolly a stupid question, but don't want to brick my phone and kick myself for not asking beforehand!
Thanks,
DG
DanGlee said:
Hi,
Just a quick question (not sure if this should be in the ROM section...)
I updated the ROM on my TD and I followed the steps of putting HardSPL on and, then the new ROM.
I now want to upgrade the radio on it, and it says you need HardSPL and then follow steps again.
My question is, if I put on HardSPL for the ROM, is it still there, or does it get wiped when the phone get flashed for the new ROM? Hence, would i need to reintall HardSPL!
Prolly a stupid question, but don't want to brick my phone and kick myself for not asking beforehand!
Thanks,
DG
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It stays there. You can always verify by manually entering bootloader and reading off the version of the HardSPL. Make sure you read the guides regarding Radio upgrade!
Hey,
Ok so my attempts are failing at upgrading to Dutty's latest ROM. I've followed everything in the USPL section in crackwhore's dummies guide, and I keep getting a [262] Update Error, and it sticks at 0% on the phone.
I then followed the other dummies guide about using USPL, and downloaded the latest blac_uspl and ran than. That worked fine, and I got the ROM installed, but then suffered from the green fuzzy screen and being stuck in airplane mode. So I tried again, and had the same problem. I then used that blac_uspl and installed from SD, but still had the same problem.
This is driving me mad, I can't seem to find anything on here which works and now my phone's not working
Can anyone pleease help??
you have the wrong SPL for newer roms, Crackwhore's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377 and typing green screen into the search box should help, question gets asked a lot.
Ok I've just read that for 1.56+ ROMs I need HSPL. I was worried about installing that because I've read that if not done correctly it will brick the phone. But I'm guessing that's what I need to install first?
You either need the standard SPL version 1.54 (which can also be flashed by using USPL and an official stock 1.56 rom), or HSPL 1.56. Yes it's possible to brick a phone by having a bad SPL flash, but a standard rom upgrade from HTC flashes the SPL anyway (unless you have HSPL 1.56 installed which protects itself)
I use HSPL - I don't care about the warranty issues.
Ok well I'll try and flash the HSPL 1.56 and keep my fingers crossed!!
Don't worry...it worked for me and will work for you...
Hey Moderators, this is a good topic do be deleted isn't it? (Repeated issue)
Hi,
yesterday, I did the hard spl and then flashed my xperia with a new rom. I just wanted to try a new rom but i was wondering if i have to hard spl everytime i change roms???
if not, then what happens if i do it? if yes, then what happens if i dont do the hard spl?
Also, if someone can explain what hard spl actually is.
please reply.
Thanks
hard spl is a bootloader from which you can load unsigned ROMs.
Hars spl is the thing that makes custom roms usable
you don't have to hard spl your device everytime you want to flash a rom.
it stays in your device if you might say so
regards
Thanks a lot
I really dont have to HardSPL before Flashing, if I did it once?
Thats cool - even if I hardreseted after that?
Hard reset is just for rom: it does not apply to the Hard SPL