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Hi,
The OK button at the side of the device is not "connected" to the OK button on the face of the device.
I was wondering if anyone knows how to remap the side-ok button to do something else.
I would love to know the same.
The killer app for this button for me would be as a 'back' button for pocket IE, which means it'd hit the left soft button.
shaharprish said:
I was wondering if anyone knows how to remap the side-ok button to do something else.
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Without third-party apps.....you can't
Moaske said:
Without third-party apps.....you can't
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Well then, how about WITH third party programs? AE Button Plus can't do it. What other ones can?
The side "ok" button is a tough one because it has multiple functions. In programs, explorer windows, and settings it acts as an OK button but when you're at the today screen it acts as a Start Menu button. I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be able to change this for a while. Not until someone releases a keymapper specifically for the Kaiser.
Whats wrong with the ok button?
its like an alt-tab to the today screen! so awesome.
even with the 8525 nobody has been able to re-map the ok button...it's still the biggest mystery, hehe....but now that they eliminated one button on the Tilt we really do need the ability to remap the ok button now...
I didn't have much luck remapping the OK button either. In AE Button it sort of maps to the Windows button, and I was able to change it...but never was able to get everything else working right after that and had to put it back.
I don't know the kaiser, but isn't Hbutton a solution for remapping hardware-keys ? On my Artemis i'm very happy with it...
Hbutton does not work on Tilt. especially setting it up
petervbeck said:
I don't know the kaiser, but isn't Hbutton a solution for remapping hardware-keys ? On my Artemis i'm very happy with it...
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is the same issue in Kiaser as well?
SPB Pocket Plus can remap this button.
Blowfish64 said:
Well then, how about WITH third party programs? AE Button Plus can't do it. What other ones can?
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For me AE Buttons Plus did work. Then I wrote a MortScript to have the button act as a back button only in PIE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342464
Hope this helps.
v3patel said:
is the same issue in Kiaser as well?
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now i got an kaiser and using hbutton of course - working very well, mapped "OK/Close" and CommManager to the ok button and no issues.
Hbutton is one of the best ppc apps imo.
edit - damn - i remaped the front ok button - the side ok button can't be remaped with hbutton afaik.....sorry, my mistake...
I have the side OK button remapped in spb pocket plus v4 under the buttons menu in settings and the only thing you have to do is take focus off the start menu then it works as expected.
Russ
Hi all,
Anyone can help to remap the hard button??
I want to change the Home key to Alt-tab, and the Back key change to OK/Close (1 press for ok and long press for real close the application). I have tried AE button plus, but not function very well.
Attached is the Alt-tab s/w i have used.
Don't know why HTC put a Home and Back key in WM pro device
Thank you very much,
did you reset the device after you changed the settings?
yes, but still doesn't work
There's a software called Hbutton. You might wanna try it.
Just tried Hbutton, but it doesn't work on diamond.........
Awww.. now how am I gonna survive on the diamond without Hbutton?!
There's another software called SmartSkeys (or something oike that) Not sure of it'll work.
Anyone got any suggestions on which software to use to map diamond buttons to many functionalities?
This one works on Diamond: AE Button Plus.
To my understanding from testing AEButton on the Diamond, I have realized that:
The HOME key cannot be remapped.
The Back key is essentially a "WIN" key. You can create a new button and remap the Back key. HOWEVER, the shortcuts DOES NOT WORK when you are at today screen. So here is what I do, I remapped the Back key single click to "Escape". double click to close program, long click to close all programs.
Thats the only logical thing i can think about using the back button due to the limitations.
Any ideas?
Escape = ok/close ?
With AEB Plus I managed to map "action long" to "task manager", but the setting doesn't seem to survive a soft reset.
Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
Tried AE Button Plus 2.6.3, the "ok" button in AE Button Plus list can refer to back key, my setting is press 1 to minimize, long press to close current application. However, AE Button Plus can't handle the Home button. I already sent a request to them, hope their next version can sort it out.
I'm posting here to find this later. I use AEB on all my devices and want a Diamond. Hopefully it gets "worked out".
tkhs said:
Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
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Yes, the mappings worked when TouchFLO was disabled. But when TouchFLO was enabled again, the mappings then didn't work.
Can someone please help me?
I use a golf GPS/Scoring program on my diamond (mobile golf scorer) and on it there is an option to use hardware button to turn display on/off, this keeps the gps active permantly. Its mapped in the program as 'button c' which from what i can tell should be the 'right hardware button' on a usual ppc.
I'm trying to map it as 'back button' using AEBPlus but it will only work on the main diamond screen or 'today' screen. I've tried mapping it to various buttons on the diamond but When i start the golf program it does not work.
Has anyone any ideas? I need to remap a button that will turn the display off no matter what i'm running.
Thanks again
I'd love to change the function of the "Back Button" aswell,
it has been annoying me since the first day I got it.
HButton seemed very promising, but sadly, it doesn't work.
Do hardware keys also have a registry number like the softkeys?
Like 112/113 for the softkeys?
Wondering anyone will use "Home" and "Back" button regularly....Maybe u guys can share your experience on how to smartly use this 2 buttons as I don't have any idea.........
Hello everyone!
This topic is very actual especially on all russian forums (hpc.ru 4pda.ru 4pda.info). Did anyone overcomed this difficulty with remapping hardware buttons? I tryed AEButton Plus but I was unsuccessfull in remapping the dimaond's "back" button - is there any one who did it? Please share the experience - it would be very very usefull to remap this button and to bind it to launching Dynamo3 task manager.
Thanks in advance.
ILya.
None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
aydc said:
None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
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so this method willn't work too? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355141
the silly part on the htc side is to have 3 of 4 hw buttons do almost the same - if you are in an application, pressing home, back or hang-up button will act as "escape". am i wrong?
for one thing, it would be at least useful to have an "ok" button.
the ideal setup for me would be to use the "go to the tf3d home tab" function of the home key by pressing the "hang-up" button and use the home key as "ok"...
With the limited Hardware buttons on the diamond I find apps like HButton indispensable.
I have tweaked mine to suit the Default Diamond layout very nicely
Looks like it was meant to be like this from HTC
Link to a video clip of how it works.
http://home.telkomsa.net/edgepc/HButton.AVI 2meg
Mine is set to Cycle through the following apps
Voice Dial
Note2Self
Comm Manager
HButton Vibrates on each switch so it is easy to select the right app without looking at the device
Attached is a pic of the config screen to show you how to set it up like mine and a screenie of it in action
Link to Hbutton
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306794
Enjoy
Jules
thanks for the tip..very useful.
That was a really cool application indeed. Thank you!
Thank you, muy buena
Very interesting, THX!
sssssssssssssssssensational!!!
Oooh
It is even better for Diamond than my friend's AEbutton Plus wich Id used before! (Don't tell him please
Thankss!
Hi,
I tested Hbutton, but it seems I can only assign the call button (hold).
There is no other buttons available.
Anybody have the same problem ?
Thanks
Yea only one button but its better than nothing
Jules
I'd also pick HButton IF it were possible to assign the "<--" button.
With AEButton I can do this, so sticking to that for now.
hbutton settings
Which HButton is the call button on? Hope I can get this working it was great on my vario 3.
Pete
hbutton on diamond
Looks like I cant even see any buttons in settings/buttons. I think T-Mobile have locked even the call button!
Pete
Thank you.
Thats really nice program.
If you have spb pocket plus installed you can assign to the ok key
this allows you to also assign a Hbutton to the key in the buttons dialog
therefore giving to h button enabled keys (Which is excelent
tried it ... adopted it
Thx.
Perfect completion for VoiceCommand.
Just set the "HButtonX.lnk" to toggle WLAN and rename it to "WLAN.lnk" or "WiFi.lnk"
After a soft reset you can switch on and off WiFi by starting this "App" with VoiceCommand.
this is genius!
thanks a lot
cookie1977uk said:
If you have spb pocket plus installed you can assign to the ok key
this allows you to also assign a Hbutton to the key in the buttons dialog
therefore giving to h button enabled keys (Which is excelent
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There is no key in the buttons dialog, that's my problem. How do I get one there?
Pete
No Hbutton in T-Mobile MDA Compact IV
Same here,I can't see HButton listed under buttons application.Looks like T-Mobile has removed it.Only Diamond people can see it.
Thanks
Sorry if it was already covered elsewhere, - is there any way to remap auctions for these side buttons on Diamond ? I don't change volume level that often, all done through profiles, imho up/down arrow or scroll function would be much more beneficial ...
Update: AEButton Plus does the thing perfectly, thanks to Geekess for the hint
volume up/down is OK but long press may be very useful for Explorer, task manager etc...
In other words configurable .. would be great for camera too, not easy to make pictures with central button, not stable enough ...
I did not follow development news for previous HTCs, so not sure if it was ever done before ...the fact is that these buttons are not available from Settings (
You can use PQZ II for remapping the volume key. Try to google it.
csc0503 said:
You can use PQZ II for remapping the volume key. Try to google it.
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thanks mate, you are a star
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
no version for diamond yet, will play with WM6 version tonight ...
hertc said:
will play with WM6 version tonight ...
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well, does not look good at the end, maybe these are hidden features, but I could not find a way of how to use the volume buttons independently (they work as Ctrl or Alt, no problem here, but I wanted to use them as one button - one action, not two buttons - one action). Another problem, Up/Down or Scroll are not available for selection as actions ....
So it should be possible to change that, the matter of finding the right program now ..
Wish there were more buttons on Diamond, or at least proper navigation buttons ...
Hmm... for me it does not work, get the message:
keyboard hook faild
any suggestions?
What works for me is AEButton Plus (payware, no affiliation). I have reconfigured my volume buttons to single press = arrow up/down and long press to volume. The program has a nice function: you can choose to let the volume buttons have their default behavior during a phonecall.
I'm using the trial right now, but if I can't find a freeware program that has the same functionality I will probably buy this.
May I ask how you've gone on with AEButton? I'd be interested to hear your long(er) term experience of having used it as it sounds like exactly what I want/need.
Mathew
all good, does what it says, configured it once and just using since ..
Tried latest HButton 2.3, but think it is not compatible ... anyone else tried it?
I still have problems with the "arrow keys" left and right (up and down working fine).
Is it possible to use the capacitive buttons for do this function. I know, there are programs like gscroll, but there are too much functions and this program is not working fine on my Touch Pro.
So very simple "double click" for left and right will help me and I have the feeling many other users of the TP.
highforest
highforest said:
I still have problems with the "arrow keys" left and right (up and down working fine).
Is it possible to use the capacitive buttons for do this function. I know, there are programs like gscroll, but there are too much functions and this program is not working fine on my Touch Pro.
So very simple "double click" for left and right will help me and I have the feeling many other users of the TP.
highforest
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theres a guide on here showing where exactly to press on the capacitative area to go left or right without pressing the other keys... you get used to it eventually. if not though, Gscroll works wonders man... ive disabled alot of the functions on it and just use it as a launcher and to scroll up/down/left/right.... really good man. have you tried the newest release. i reccomend it highly
theres software called dreadsensor i believe that disables the other functions of keys on left and right so for games its better
highforest said:
I still have problems with the "arrow keys" left and right (up and down working fine).
Is it possible to use the capacitive buttons for do this function. I know, there are programs like gscroll, but there are too much functions and this program is not working fine on my Touch Pro.
So very simple "double click" for left and right will help me and I have the feeling many other users of the TP.
highforest
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I have been trying this out. Works pretty good.
Try this: SensorScroll v0.6 beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466377
I download gscroll again, test it and buy it (Thanks to manoli20)
The problems, I had before with this software is the fact, that I use a branded TP from German Telekom (MDA Vario 4) and the capacitive keys (and the normal keys) for Telephone, Home and Back are different from the original TP.
So pressing the capacitive key, brings not the right reaction.
Thanks to all for the tipps.
highforest
any idea where that guide is to using the capacitive arrow keys?
I have almost thrown my phone out of my car window while speeding down the highway. MUCH TOO OFTEN i accidently execute the "hang up" button when trying to press RIGHT.
There has been nothing more frustrating than this experience ..
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any idea where that guide is to using the capacitive arrow keys?
I have almost thrown my phone out of my car window while speeding down the highway. MUCH TOO OFTEN i accidently execute the "hang up" button when trying to press RIGHT.
There has been nothing more frustrating than this experience ..
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1698
Dude , That should be in the wiki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been trying to use GScroll for reliable d-pad functionality. I wish my phone came with the instructions in that video!
Thank you