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Hello fellow Wing users. I'm willing to bet that if you're reading this you're probably a little frustrated with your phone's lack of performance. The reason why I'm starting this post is to try and gather in one central location all the improvements that we as local community would like to see happend for the Wing. The idea is for you to complete this sentence:
"The T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if..."
I have already contacted T-Mobile's customer service and gave them my suggestions,but I thought it might be a good idea to see what other users are looking for/need. Any idea is a valid idea, and after a month I'll draft a letter and we can all send it to customer service. And if we see more things that need to be added we can send it monthly with new updates. Sound good?
So this is what we have so far:
1. [email protected]
2. Official ROM
3. non-Buggy My Favs Program
4. Screen Lock w/Button Lock even when an incoming call comes in
I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.
I'd love my wing as well. The only thing I can think of that I'd love to see is UMA support for [email protected] Not really a big issue for me, as I have no signal issues at home, but that's about it.
How bout a list of all the suggestions in the first post. The main thing I'm waiting for is a release of the official rom to fall back on.
I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.
Updated rom with less memory leaks.
Hotspot @ Home
That's all I can imagine for right now. Wing's a pretty all-in-one device.
For developers:
Would love TOUCHFLO to be implemented into a rom.
Rom's with freed up memory
Less customization
Faster and more stable.
suggestions
for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...
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for now, I guess these will be the 2 main things
1. A small-sized rom, with all t-mobile apps as optional installs
2. An actual RUU rom file for us all upgraders...
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Like a T-Mobile Kitchen? That would be cool
Here here! I totally agree.
Here here! I totally agree.
Not sure if these are really T-Mobile's issues or WM6 issues or HTC issues, but ...
Alarms are Unreliable
...If I set an alarm, I can NOT be confident that it will sound. The WM6 alarms worked fine the first time I set it active. A day alter I changed the alarm time and alarm sound, and the alarm hasn't worked correctly since. I eventually installed a 3rd party alarm clock, and deactivated the WM6 alarms. The 3rd party one worked OK for a week, then it wouldn't work either! It only seems to work when the phone is On, and set to stay on (plugged in). If the phone goes into suspend mode over night, the alarm doesn't seem to play the alarm sound. It does wake up the device, and does flash the light, but no sound!
Volume Up/Down Buttons:
...Seems like the hardware volume buttons (which are my first choice for volume control) do not adjust volume for most 3rd party applications. In fact every 3rd party app that I've installed starts with sound blaring, and no WM6 volume control seems to control the volume. Only after entering the game, going to the game settings, and editing the game volume controls (if there are any!) can I change the volume. Why doesn't the hardware volume control actually control the speaker volume?
Listen to Music & Vibrate Mode:
...Seems like I can't set my phone to vibrate (through the quick ring/vibrate phone mode switching tool) and have volume for my music. When I set it to vibrate, the volume is set to 0. When I trun the volume up for my music, the ringer switches from vibrate to ring.
NOTE: I really wonder if all these sound issues are related ... ? It seems to me that there are a variety of volume settings, and a variety of controls to adjust these volume settings. Ringer volume, in call volume, speaker volume. , mute/vibrate mode. There is the hardware button, there is a software volume slider, many apps have an additional volume sliders. It seems like some *other* internal volume setting is getting adjusted (other than the main volume controls) and all programs (not the phone or ringer) are affected by this.
Locked Screen with Call:
...With the screen lock enabled, and the phone in suspended mode, an incoming call wakes up the phone and activates the two phone buttons. Every time the incoming call is answered as I am pulling the phone from the phone case ... !! This really sucks because I don't want to have to answer every call. If I don't remove the phone from the case, the calls are still answered just by the pressure of the case on those buttons.
Music Player Library:
...The Windows Media player Library automatically loads up all sorts of ringtones and WM6 sound files (that are not in My Music or My Videos folders)?? There is seemingly no settings to prevent this? manually removing them asks you to really delete the file (dangerous), and has to be repeated every time you reload the Library? I ended up using a new media player that has more settings and isn't so stupid.
User Modes: (not an issue, but a desired feature)
...I have found the need for 'usage modes' for the phone. I mean things like 'phone mode', 'internet mode', 'music/movie player mode'. Somethng that would enable the appropriate device settings to facilitate using some program without the screen turning off, or auto-suspending.
...I know you can manually go through all your settings and enable/disable the auto-suspend, change the backlight, change the volume/ring type, etc. in order to use the Wing as an MP3 player, phone, or news reader ... but different usage modes would seemingly be a *must have* for anyone who really uses these different functionalities one after the next.
... for example, as an MP3 player I want the device to stay on (no auto-suspend), the back light off after 30 sec, and vibrate only ringer, and music volume adjustable (only makes sense). BUT if I get an incoming call, I don't want the backlight shutting off after 30 seconds anymore! OR if I close the MP3 player and want to read my email or RSS news feeds, then I want the ringer back on, the device to auto-suspend after 5 minutes, and the backlight to stay on that long too.
...It is time consuming to be constantly swapping settings back and forth, trying to remember what needs to be changed. I feel like I spend more time tinkering with settings then actually getting good use out of the Wing. Sometimes I only have 5 minutes to read news or play a quick Sudoku game, and don't want half that time wasted futzing with settings.
...Maybe there is 3rd party software for this, but I haven't found any as of yet.
Business Contact Manager Pocket PC / Contacts Button on TMobile Wing
Thanks for this thread. I think we should also post replies when members post questions about their needs....
I like my Wing and I am trying to keep it clean - minimal software. Having said that there are some things I would like to remove / change....
I have installed business contact manager pocket pc - which sync's with my business contacts in Outlook. The problem I have is that one of the Today screen soft button (just above the ok button) points to "contacts" and not business contacts. I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
I would also like to see a new forum category for all posts regarding Wing and/or WM6 professional. A lot of the threads deal with older OS's and I am concerned to install software written for WM5 and older. Also you find WM6 posts buried under different devices, etc...
This is the only way I know how . . .
zerodiscount said:
I am wondering if anybody knows how to get this button to point to the business contacts. I do not want to install new software - I think this is a registry edit type fix. Any help will be appreciated.
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See attatched and it's the 'official' T-Mobile applet so . . . . .
Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
aLdaRiS said:
I really love my wing.
The T-Mobile Wing would be a better pda if it had 3G, so i don't have to buy a new phone when t-mo's 3G networks comes out.
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RUU updater
T-Mobile Wing would be a better phone if they released the RUU updater with the stock version of the ROM that comes on the Wing!!
When do they plan on doing that?
I'd mainly like to see a faster CPU (preferably keeping the dual core, so the radio stuff is independant) and more onboard RAM/ROM space.
Then, there is the feature T-Mobile announced recently -- a special box that goes onto people's home LANs, where people can make voice over IP calls, and have it automatically handoff to and from the cellular network. Calls made on the wireless at home are free, even if the call gets handed to the cell network.
Of course, I'd like to see a RUU ROM file, as well as a "bare/clean" ROM from TMO, providing pretty much WM6, and the basic T-Mobile network customizations, as a starting base to work from.
How about having the extra storage space built in to the phone instead of having to buy an sd card?
How about [email protected] for the Wing?
Now here's a GREAT Idea! Hotspot @home for the Wing - god knows it'd take little to no-effort for them to allow/enable us to utilize this . . . . .
My wife switched over to T-Mobile cuz she wanted the Sidekick (bleh) so she offered to get me the Wing...I really didn't like how slow and sloppy the phone's interface is. Still don't like how slow it is but I've warmed up to the phone since it's so handy. But I do wish that the apps where not so buggy and was more customizalbe. Like customizing the homepage to have using only icons for certain things or framing some parts of the homepage so that you can view different info without having to leave the homepage and watch my phone akwardly blink to the next screen.
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I'm having email issues. My wife and I can not get the send/receive function to work with my home email accounts (Cox Communications). I'm using the Wing and she's on the Dash, both using WM6. We didn't have this problem with WM5 so what's the deal?
This phone would be better if I could get an answer from Tech support why I'm having this problem.
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That is an issue with Cox. Recently alot of ISP's have locked their outgoing email to be only able to send from approved IPs. T-Mobile right now is working on getting added to those. Dont worry about it being 6.0, that was just a coincidence.
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Don't hold your breath for T-mobile 3G . They only have a little bit in Manhattan (apparently) and they were saying early this year that it would be rolled out in August and 1 week away and nothing so far
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The ITCs ban on 3g chips is probably the real culprit behind the 3g launch delay. Why launch 3g when you cant even get any 3g phones imported??
!st letter going out on Friday
Hey everyone, I just wanted you to know that out first letter is going out on Friday. If you have any other ideas please add them.
SIP please . . .
how about giving us the built-in ability to use SIP/VoIP that WM6 provides . . BACK to us . . .
Hi all, my first post here. I have had my Kaiser now for about 3 weeks, its going well but I have a few questions.
On my old Moto, I had a bleep that sounds every 30secs if I had a text message or missed call alert. Is there a feature like this? Its very useful.
I can't seem to find the TV or VOD in the T-zones.
Is there a quicker way of sending a text instead of doing Messaging, New, SMS etc..??
Anyone used Bluetooth Audio program to send all sound to the BT headset (like MP3s)? Handy for when I am using my mono BT headset.
Is there a program that will switch off the phone and BT overnight and back on in the morning on a sked????
My Kaiser is a UK unlocked handset all as standard.
Now just waiting for Krussel to bring a case out for it. I have e-mailed Krussel and PDA Addons but got no reply.
Thanks all for the help.
P.S Tomtom have refused to support me as they say the TyTN 2 is not a supported product.
As far as the beep on text message alert I use PhoneAlarm. It will let me set the notification time interval as well as how many times it repeats itself. I also use Kaiser Notifications by Phil_UK LED notification program to change what LED's blink for missing Texts, emails or calls.
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328596
As far as TomTom goes, I called them and they say that they dont support any WM6 phones as the front line guys have not been updated on WM6 yet. I think they may want to get on that in all honesty.
And I have no idea what you are talking about here:
I can't seem to find the TV or VOD in the T-zones.
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It was the 3G TV on T-zones and also their Video on Demand (VOD). Thanks for the other info.
Guys, regarding tomtom. They do support the Kaiser/TyTn 2. BUT, you must tell them that you have installed THEIR specially adapted tomtom version designed for the TyTn 2 and that your installation disk has their logo on it. It seems their staff have not been informed about this in many cases. However others who have been persistent have been successful. Ask the person to get their supervisor.
By the way the tomtom software and GPS is pretty straightforward and works well, so if there's a problem - report it in one of the GPS threads here and you may well get an answer.
Mike
Hi -- I'm a newbie to PDA/Smartphones (not to PCs, though) and just bought my first... an HTC Tilt (AT&T branded). My last (and still working) phone is the SE637 which did well by me for years, so this was my next step. When I wanted to make a voice executed phone call, I pushed the "-" (minus) button on the left side of the phone and was prompted for name and then home, work, mobile, etc. This worked well for me.
I don't use PTT and would like to "re-map" (?) that button to work similarly. Reading various threads, aside from waiting for my head to explode, I've discovered that my voice can control operations beyond those that are dial-related.
I've come across Cyberon Voice Commander which looks pretty slick. Slick is very good to me, but performance and stability are best. Would you recommend this? Any others, free or not? Thanks in advance!
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you write with brilliance
I'm happy somebody made this thread good work.
Fantastic Article Bengalih!
One added request. It would be great to include, perhaps in a text attachment, ms voice command's list of progam files and registry entries.
Seperate by the two primary versions for 1.6.
The information would invaluable for cooks to go back into a clean rom and clean out left over files and registry entries or allow them to strip the full version out if they wish to upgrade it or leave it out entirely.
Left over files/reg entries may as you know cause issues when adding or upgrading the ms voice.
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Fantastic Article Bengalih!
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List of File and Registry Entries for Voice Command
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Cancel VC announcement while In progress?
Bengalih, Great write up!
Is there a way that you know of to cancel VC's announcement mid stream? That is to say, there are times when VC will start to announce an email, or read SMS while I am on a call and I would like a way to shut it up quickly. It is terrible when you are on the phone with client A and your phone starts to announce a call from client B, or even worse sitting quietly on a conference call and it starts reading an SMS... Some how this always bleeds through my BT headset so the person I am on the phone with hears it.
Thanks!
crussell
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Bengalih, Great write up!
Is there a way that you know of to cancel VC's announcement mid stream? That is to say, there are times when VC will start to announce an email, or read SMS while I am on a call and I would like a way to shut it up quickly. It is terrible when you are on the phone with client A and your phone starts to announce a call from client B, or even worse sitting quietly on a conference call and it starts reading an SMS... Some how this always bleeds through my BT headset so the person I am on the phone with hears it.
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crussell. Thanks for the vote of support. Unfortunately the issue you describe plagues me as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with the software and by this I mean it isn't a bug, just something the developers didn't think through very well.
There are only two ways to stop the incoming announcements:
Turn them off
Check the box in Notifications that says "Only during free time"
What this box means is that if you have an appointment in your calendar that sets your free/busy disposition to "busy" then announcements will not come through.
However, if you get an incoming call you will still get the call waiting beeps which can be just as distracting (if anyone knows how to turn these off please let me know...they are unrelated to MSVC).
So, if you know you are going to be on an important call you can first go into your calendar and make an appointment and set your time to busy.
The only solution I can see, short of a new version which takes these things into account is if someone can figure out how to fool the system into thinking your time is "busy". I don't know if MSVC looks for a registry flag or if there is a free/busy connector (API) that it taps into. If someone could make a little app that would toggle free/busy time that would be fantastic. Unfortunately I cannot code for WM to this degree.
AHA!
I take back what I said...at least the part of me not knowing how to fix it
There does indeed appear to be a registry location that records your current free/busy status.
I have written another script tool which will perform a toggle of your free/busy status effectively turning off any incoming announcements when toggled off.
Check it out here
ROM: 1.62.502.0 (ATT Tilt Shipped ROM)
MSVC Version: 1.6.17913
Bluetooth Headset: Motorola 89199N
Description:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I've stopped using MSVC on my Tilt via Bluetooth because 3 of 3 times I've messed with this (getting battery status, call person, etc type commands) I've found later that the phone won't dial out or receive calls anymore! First two times it happened I was a bit puzzled, but the third time it clicked that it only happened sometime after initiating a call or such via MSVC with Bluetooth.
Anyone else noticed this? I find it odd that it'd freeze up the phone portion of the Tilt, but it does 100% of the time for me. IIRC, hitting the Green button shows the Phone titlebar and menus but the screen itself never draws. I can hit the OK button to get back to the Today screen, and the Phone app is listed in the list of applications running I believe, but it won't die and won't work until I do a reset.
I installed MSVC from a CAB here on this forum, and it generally works but this problem with bluetooth is pretty annoying as the main reason I wanted to get the program is to do bluetooth commands for dialing.
The more I think about it, it's possible that using the bluetooth commands then doing "run command suspend" (I think that's the syntax, it's been a few weeks since I tried it last) to turn off the Tilt immediately might also cause it problems. I was doing that because otherwise it stays on for quite a while, when it seems to me it should turn itself off fairly quickly.
I'll try your new version and edit-back
I have never experienced this issue with MSVC. I have tried it out successfully on at least half a dozen ROMS.
Although I am not intimately familiar with the inner working of code in either MSVC or WM in general, I don't know really know how this could interfere.
Other reported issues with MSVC involve:
Audio gateway being left open
Radio going dead
I'm also not sure how MSVC could interfere with the radio....
My first thought is Don't Blame MSVC!
I say this since I (and many other's) haven't had problems with it...it obviously is a program that CAN function properly.
If you are using a cooked ROM that has MSVC built-in or you are installing it from scratch, read through this whole guide and make sure you understand and update/tweak your copy.
I would recommend installing the latest version I have posted 1.6.19290 as I have already had reports of this clearing up some people's issue.
When posting problems regarding MSVC in the future, please refer to the main thread posts, where I will detail the information you should provide.
Let me know what you come up with!
I've got an issue I can't find an answer to. I have MSVC installed on my Tilt and it worked fine up until about a week ago. Since then I can initiate MSVC via my bluetooth headset but get no audio for the prompts (i.e. the ding to tell me it's ready for input, the audio confirmation for who to call).
Also, notifications stopped working via bluetooth. I've checked all the settings and everything is fine, they're exactly as they were when VC was working properly. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling and deleting and repairing my headset. Nothing seems to work.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
HI all,
I have setup MS Voice command on my Fuze to announce the name or phone number of the person calling on in coming calls. On my Tilt, it would announce the name either thru the speaker or my BT headset. With the Fuze, it will not. Is anyone else having this problem.
Also, with my Tilt, my ring tones would play thru my BT Headset and it will not on the Fuze. I don't know if this are related. I am using the BT headset on both.
Thanks
billf.
Yes, I'm having this same problem, and it is making me consider returning my Fuze and sticking with my tilt. Unless HTC or someone comes up with a fix within the next 2 weeks, my Fuze is going back. The only other bug I have noticed is that auto-correct does NOT work for the keyboard. It's supposed to automatically add in apostrophes for words, such as "can't, don't, won't" etc. Also, the word suggestion never shows up when I type, like it did on my Tilt. Of course it gives you suggestions with T9 turned on, but that's not the same as word suggestion. It would provide suggestions based on previous typing habits, and even predict entire phrases it thought I was going to type. Anyway....if someone figures out how to fix these problems, please let me know ASAP! Thanks.
I just noticed this tread. I too am having the same problem with it not announcing. My Tilt did it just fine and I have the Fuze VC set up exactly the same way as my Tilt, but all I get is my ringtone and no announcement.
Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.
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Check your settings. I think you have to announce notifications using bluetooth hands free if available. and uncheck "only durning free time"
I think that may work.
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That is the way I have it set up. No go. What is weird is that my ring tone plays over the bluetooth headset, but the computer generated voice doesn't speak.
it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.
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it has to be a bad version or something.
also..last night i tried to install the cab i've used for over a year on top of the at&t version thinking it would overwrite the necessary files. no go. it corrupted the phone and had to hard reset to fix.
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I'm glad that you decided to be a "guinea pig!" Because I was going to try this today! I was going to re-install the .CAB that came from my Tilt. But I'm glad to see if that doesn't work. In order to find a solution, do you think I should call AT&T or HTC? Which one would give me the solution? Because I only have 25 days left before my Fuze is non-returnable.
Hmm I never tried it yet on the fuze with my BT. I'll try it and report back.
Ok crap. Yeah. It doesnt "voice" announce. I never noticed it because I can dial from headset and even number dial from headset and it'll work. I can hear it repeating the number back.
BUT its not like its not working... If I remove the announce incommming calls, it makes my phone ring, but in my earpiece I hear a tone to tell me I have a phonecall. When I enable announce incomming calls, my phone vibrates and I hear my ringtone in my ear, and faintly I can hear that "tone" I heard before. So it sounds like the voice side of things isnt working.
Ok tried one last thing before my BT headset died. Doh!
When it died, my phone announced the caller. So it does work. Its just not working from the BT headset, you hear a bell sound or something.
Also, I just noticed my cars BT doesn't show battery of the phone. When my Tilt was on the car BT, it would show the battery remaining.
MS Voice Command
Check out the MS Voice Command guide on WinMo-Experts. There might be an answer to your problems in there.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2
Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.
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Thanks for the link. I dont think it solved anything we're getting. Since Fuze has it built in, I dont think we can overwrite the files.
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Guess I didn't notice, but dose not work for me either. I do enjoy that on the Tilt, but I more like the Tilt for the message and email voice notification.
Beahcboyde/JON
PS. I'm simply not keeping the Fuze. I'll stick with my Tilt and TF2. love the whole setup and the speed of the touchflo usingHyperDragon Raphael
Signal is average compaired to my Tilt, when testing out T-Mobile connection. On 3G, I'm constantly around 2 bars(but it spurts to full so I know its working) So I think Hawaii is still bad with 3G is some areas.
I use VC ALOT. So I'm amazed I never noticed this issue where it wont say the caller in my ear.
I'm not sure if I'll keep the phone/drop ATT/both.
Please someone fix this! I dunno if it helps, but all you hear is a bell sound in the background of your normal phone ringtone. I know thats from the MSVC. The only thing not working is the announcement of whos calling. I think everything else is working. I can voice dial,recieve calender announcements and appoinments,etc from my BT headset.
Oh, not just BT headset. It won't announce it from the phone either.
I even did a "bloat free" installation.
the fix is on pdaphonehome.com i had the same problem with my sprint touch pro. weird since the diamond doesn't have this problem. you have to edit the registry to use the wav file instead of the default. only side effect with the fix is the phone will ring once and VC will announce the rest of the duration.
sid
Eww,junk fix. I'll check it out tho. While not a problem when I have my headset, it would be if i had my phone sitting on a table.
Reg hack
I copied this from pdaphonehome.com....kuddos to the person that figured this
out. Kind of a hacky way to get it to work though. Perhaps the brains around
here can figure it out.
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This isn't a complete solution - but it's an improvement.
With this fix - the ring tone will play for a second and then be cut off by the call announcement. The announcement will be at a lower volume. The announcement will repeat - the ring tone will not be played again.
NOTE THAT YOU SHOULD ATTEMPT THIS FIX ONLY IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN UPDATING YOUR REGISTRY.
Change the following registry keys:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Category
change from VoiceCommand1 to Ring
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\TTSAnnounce\Script
change from as5p to v0p (that's v-zero-p) - for vibrate & ring, or p (ring only)
The above fix seems to get the announcements reliably, and doesn't break the set vibrate/set ringer features in the TF3D interface.
Hopefully we can find a better solution - that will restore the full functionality of Voice Command incoming call announcements - and not need this hack.
Another option is to manually overwrite the ringtone file name:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sound
change to \Application Data\Volatile\TTSCallerID.wav
This fix replaces the ringtone with the call announcement - and at full volume.
BUT this solution has several problems, including breaking the set vibrate/set ringer feature in TF3D.
From reading that, if I DON'T use the TF3D ring/vibrate, but use the windows mobile one, I should be fine by doing the second hack listed above? I think I could live with that as I eventually will kill the TF3D just so I can get the calender of my Pocket Informant to show instead. Only thing I like was the Weather and clock of the TF3D anyways and ATT crippled the clock by removing the animation.
Doe anybody know how to do the 2nd option? Not sure if I'm supposed to delete the whole registry line or somehow add to that line?