Hello all, as you can see i'm a total noob, and was an Iphone user until i found this website and found out about the HTC Diamond Touch. I have a quick, and probably stupid question, I have just sold my iphone with the intention of buying an Diamond. I had bought my iphone in the UK on O2, happy enough with the contract as you get unlimited data usage with it. As my iphone was non 3G, if I put my O2 sim card in the diamond can I access the 3G network. I know this is prob a pretty stupid noob question, but if I get a Diamond, I would want to use it with 3G for net surfing.
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It depends if O2 have enabled 3g on your SIM. Should have done, it would be really stupid for them not to. If you find you can't get on 3G ring up customer services and get them to post you a 3g SIM
The SIM card you got with your iPhone would have been data enabled. It should work with no problem. Btw, if you're buying a Diamond you wouldn't want to use 3G because O2 has one of the best 3.5G (HSDPA) coverage in the UK so forget about 3G
cheers for the replies. Again without sounding too stupid, does that mean if I put my O2 sim card in the diamond I can access O2's 3.5 G network, you can really tell I dont have much of a clue, cant you.
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Hello,
I've been reading up on the kaiser for a little while now and think the specs are amazing.
I've been meaning to get a new phone for a while now, upgrade from my samsung e715. I'm thinking about getting the t-mobile wing as a replacement.
I was wondering if this is a feasible idea, I mean, with the possibility of at&t getting the kaiser, should I wait for that to unlock it?
Will T-mobile be getting a nicer/better version of the p4550 when/if there 3G network goes up?
Just seeking some input, and any would be much appreciated. Thank you
Yea... upgrade! WM will be a bit of a shock to you, it's quite different than what you're used to in terms of mobile telephony. The Kaiser would be a great piece of technology for anyone to own, however the price tag may not be everyone's cup of tea. Personally I plan to get an unlocked one for some 800 dollars. ATT may offer it for 500 with 2 year plan. As for unlocking, if you have international travel ahead of you in a near future then I believe there is a SIM unlock solution already. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until you need it unlocked.
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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if i were you i wouldnt get the wing. its too slow, plus on a lot of them theres a memory problems. i used to have t-mobile but when i switched to cingular i found out they're much better and the signal is much better. also you get more minutes for the same price t-mobile offers.
so right now i have a t-mobile sda unlocked for cingular, just waiting for the kaiser. I dont know how long it will take before there is a Kaiser Sim unlock utility, so you can either get an unlocked htc kaiser or the AT&T Tilt (their calling the 8925 that now) and wait for a sim unlock utility.
think it would work on the t-mobile 3g network? on the 1700 band?
hi:
guy in att store told me that my old sim card wont fully utilize 3g ..
i have to upgrade to new card..
is this true?
thanx
it would help you to use a 3g phone. u do need a 3g sim card
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it would help you to use a 3g phone. u do need a 3g sim card
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what does this even mean, seriously?
of course im on a 3g tilt.. why else would i ask here?
the question is 3g utilization capabilities..
i was using old card and its still waay faster than neighbor's t-mobile card..
i would like someone who knows what im talking about and what they're talking about to gimme solid opinion..
thanx
it varies from operator to operator as in some have been giving 3g cable sims to 2g suscribers for ages as having 2 types of sims is bothersome and expensive for many operators
i would ask my operator
3g to 2g phones is no prob.. thats obvious..all new phones have em whether they need it or not..
i dont believe att just cuz they say something. (that i need it)
they lie all the time-- they all do..
what youre saying is that you dont really know answer to my orig question..
AGAIN :: i ask cuz my tilt is faster w/my old card than w/t-mobile card....
thanx for the replies but i just wanna hear from someone who knows..
tahnx again
I got a 10 year old sim card that does 3g just fine...
i believe yaz..
i do wish i could find perfect answer on google or somethin.. my sim is 9y/o.
no one i know is even on att for me to compare sims..
so many on gay t-mobile
thanx
You're getting two speeds because 3G is just rolling out from T-mobile. ATT has had 3G for awhile and are evn rolling out HSDPA in some areas. Do you need a 3G sim from ATT, probably not. But thats the reason youre getting two speeds.
Well with your old sim do you see an E or a 3G for the type of signal? Tmobile no matter what will have the E for edge
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Well with your old sim do you see an E or a 3G for the type of signal? Tmobile no matter what will have the E for edge
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the att guy said that just because i see the 3g icon, doesnt mean im getting 3g speeds.. if my sim aint 3g, im not getting 3g..
this is what i question...
I didnt get a 3G sim card until recently when i had an issue where I needed a new sim.. i got speeds on both about the same. One was a 3G sim and the other wasnt. Sounds like your ATT rep is full of S**T
Well can always check out http://http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?t=4&s=100&r=8603&w. Anything over 300k is considered 3g. Just use PIE for it though. Opera doesnt do it correctly
I had to get a new sim from o2 before i got 3g speeds
Thats correct...If you have a 2G sim, you can only connect to GPRS or EDGE platforms.
To get 3G or HSDPA, you will need a 3g SIM...
sij,, how do you know.. is it just a guess?
are you saying that : even when the 3g icon changes, it doesnt mean anything?
it might stand to reason that full utilization of the 3g network needs a new card, that doesnt mean that its absolutely necessary..
sqwhatever-- i bought one from ebay for 3.50 shipped..
for reasons not even relating to this..
if there is a difference, i will see it immediately.
thanx
hi, that is the question.
Would you buy the DIAMOND again if you know you can't use the data transfer under the 3G technology??? is it worth the us$500 or eur450????
I dont really care about 3g when wifi is so readily available.
3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
for me 3G is essential as I use my Diamond extensively on Telstra's 850Mhz 3G network, and I can get far better coverage in regional parts of Australia. 3G is also essential for me as I use my Diamond as an external modem connected to my laptop. I could not imagine trying to use the internet at dialup speeds!! (or not at all due to lack of coverage)
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3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
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3G is a masssive bonus, especially when dealing with moving large files or for video calls. web pages are not so important.
As for stealing WIFI i think there is a strong moral question about doing that, especially as there are still people who are charge by the amount of data they use. Would you pick their pockets?
Thankfully most of the wifi spots i see people are wise enough to use WPA encryption. But still some people are relying on nothing or just WEP
in france we are massively under H (or a 3.5g or 3g+) so we don't care about 3g it's only when we goes to foreign country... but funny things there is a lack of wifi spot here
I'd buy it (again - my Touch Pro that is) in a second.
We do have quite spread UMTS and not bad HSPA and even some hot spots, but all these are just things "outside" the device; and the device rulez.
3g great...but
must turn off where overseas
don't want a big bill waiting for when i get home
I don't much care for the 3G, it's a nice bonus but it's not the reason I bought the Diamond.
The Diamond is the perfect phone for me (especially after I found this place and was able to upgrade the software tremendously) and I would certainly buy it again.
My biggest complaint in that the screen is so easily scratched. I hate using screen protectors and never really had a problem with scratches on my previous touch screen (Treo 700wx) like I do now. But minor issues as far as I'm concerned. I definitley don't have a problem with the battery as many others do, as I've become quite accustomed to carrying spare batteries since I use my devices quite a bit.
Good phone, even better tech support (here). How can you go wrong?
3G is a must!!! Still waiting over here in the U.S.
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3g isn't a a must, if you want to brows the internet get a computer, but for some people who work out in the field and needs Internet service then sure 3G is fun, but other wise than browsing the Internet you don't really need it, but for someone who is one of those emo Internet people myspace youtube what not, that its for u.
The answer depends on where you live as well as what you use your phone for.
In UK (and most of Western Europe) we have very good 3G and even 3.5G networks that can give us mobile broadband at very good speeds - not up to best wired speeds but getting close. You can really notice the difference between that and slow old GPRS when downloading emails or surfing the real web (rather than just WAP).
On the other hand in the UK free wifi spots are few and far between - most require some sort of payment or subscription - Holiday Inn hotels for example want £15 per day, and Hilton are £10! And most private companies (and households like mine) that use wifi lock their access so you can't park outside and piggy back.
Because there has been so much investment in these new technologies they are being pushed hard by the phone companies and many contracts for phones now come with "free" bundled data access. My HTC comes with "unlimited" downloads (sunbject as always to a fair use policy that I have never got near).
I understand that in other parts of the world including the US the roll out of this sort of technology is less advanced, and so the arguments for having 3G are less convincing at the moment.
I would not have bought the Diamond without 3G. 3G(Hdspa) is an absolutley must!
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3g is the s**t lol
i gotta say once you use 3G (HSDPA) you will never go back, most if the time i don't even bother connecting to WIFI coz there is honestly hardly any speed difference if you have good reception (and i have unlimited data plan).
Luckily i live the the UK and with orange we have decent coverage and the speed is increasing over the next year of so
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
Well I bought my Diamond (european version) not knowing that 3G wouldn't work in the US. Despite that, It was going in for some repairs at HTC America with Canada post and somehow, the phone got "lost" (yeah right).
So now, I'm getting back my insurance money and I will most probably buy another Diamond not taking into consideration weather 3G works or not.
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HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
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purchase a Telstra DIAM130 one from Australia and it will have 850Mhz 3G
3g or 2g
I'm in the camp of MUST have 3g, in AU with telstra and all prior htc phones have had 3g BUT I went and grabbed a Diamond 100 a while back BEFORE we all really knew about the different models being hardware (bands) different so long story short I've got 2g only and it sucks big time.
Reception outside of metro very average, data s l o w ..no video callls and
I live in the country area, even chucked my sim card into my wifes old motorola v3xx., Yea pink as well........
I am using the Diamond as I like the phone/features
I'm looking to buy a 3g Diamond or renew/upgrade my plan due next month.
Then the hardly used Diamond100 will hit ebay and thats it.
(Unless someone in AU is looking to swap as Diam100 works on Optus/Voda etc, but not telstra)
So if your provider is going to get compatible phones then wait, otherwise like driving a v8 in first gear.
Hi,
I am new user and want to get the HTC Touch Diamond 2 ( Topaz ) next week. My current provider is AT&T.
I found some decent deals on eBay, but one seller wrote back saying that this phone is 100% working with AT&T and I only have to switch my SIM card out. Except for 3G....... he said, 3G won't work.
So my question is : Why would 3G not work ? Is this a phone normally used for other providers or is the 3G just turned off ? If so, can 3G be turned on easily via a hack or something ? I don't get it.
Thanks for helping.
JCE
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the phone is 3G capable but I dont think the providers support it in your country.
If you are talking about AT&T in the USA, yeah 3G doesn't seem to work for me. I think the specific atenna range for 3G is not the one AT&T uses. I might be wrong though and just haven't seen a 3G link since its rare in my area and I don't use data that much. The best I can get is Edge.
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If you are talking about AT&T in the USA, yeah 3G doesn't seem to work for me. I think the specific atenna range for 3G is not the one AT&T uses. I might be wrong though and just haven't seen a 3G link since its rare in my area and I don't use data that much. The best I can get is Edge.
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America doesn't use the same 3G frequencies.., Europe 900/1200. America 850/whatever else. These phones are Euro 3G frequencies only so the best you'll get is GSM, which is quad band (i.e. work everywhere).
If you're cool with that that's fine, but when my phone drops from 3G to GSM I find it pretty unbearable (think dial up days).
jce2005 said:
Hi,
I am new user and want to get the HTC Touch Diamond 2 ( Topaz ) next week. My current provider is AT&T.
I found some decent deals on eBay, but one seller wrote back saying that this phone is 100% working with AT&T and I only have to switch my SIM card out. Except for 3G....... he said, 3G won't work.
So my question is : Why would 3G not work ? Is this a phone normally used for other providers or is the 3G just turned off ? If so, can 3G be turned on easily via a hack or something ? I don't get it.
Thanks for helping.
JCE
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Unfortunatley I don't think our phones support it. Here is my original post with the same question from May:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512828
Hello everyone,
Been away for a short while, but I'm noticing that not much is happening new with the Kaisers. The cooks are gone to other things, and therefore tech support is far and in-between by what I've been reading over several posts in each of the Kaiser forum sections. I was just logging in to try and get help with making my volume louder (for the in-call volume AND the speaker), but my cook has gone, and seemingly not much is happening with regards to the ROM's needs.
So, is everyone going to I-Phones, or FUZE devices, etc.?
I'm curious because I'm really aggitated with AT&T right now. I just realized when I bought my wife her Samsung Epix, that JUST for buying the phone, I'm REQUIRED to have a $30/month data plan for her. She doesn't cruise the net on her phone. But she DOES text (I have the family unlimited messaging plan). She needs a device with a storage card so she can text, use the MS Office Apps, etc.. NOT cruise the net.
So, I'm thinking about changing carriers, but don't know anyone else other than T-Mobile that will accept my SIM card. And SOME say that trying the T-Mobile SIM card in my Kaiser will render the GPS, messaging, data, etc... applications useless.
So, just tryin' to get a feel of what to do next.
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Thanks. I appreciate that.
josefcrist said:
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Isn't the bands of the Tilt regards 3G different than AT&T? Thought the Tilt couldn't get 3G when using a T-Mobile sim?
Indeed the bands are different. You can't get 3G on T-Mobile with the Tilt. I use mine on Tmo everyday, with full GPS and everything. Tmo doesnt really have great 3G coverage anyways, so I don't really miss it all that much. But yeah, just use the combo SIM and CID unlocker, and slap that SIM into your Tilt and all is good to go.
Le Kaiser est morte, Vive Le Kaiser
Yeah...with the advent of more powerful phones in the HTC line (I recently went Rhodium/Tilt2), the Kaiser/Tilt is pretty much a dinosaur. I am still keeping the lovable brick for a backup. I've tried many roms...Thanks Dutty, Mr. NATF and TwoPumpChump for creating and releasing them, but unfortunately the Tilt's time for "Operation Upgrade" had come.
On the flip side though there are still folks cooking out there for Kaiser, ya just gotta know where to look and who to ask! Yeah, the unlocked Tilt will run with a T-mobile SIMM ( or any other network's SIMM), just not at the full potential that one would get on it's native network.
Good luck and good use!