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Hi, is it normal that srooling in programs is slower against other devices? For example my brothers Asus P535 has perfect speed, if he moves slider quickly, no problem, no lag, absolutely smooth, bud diamond isnt. Why?
Try doing the tweaks in the tweak thread for a start or if you want flash to another rom ie the TLR rom is pretty fast and tf3d is quite smooth and fast on that rom.
Have a look in the rom section of the forum and see which one sounds good to you.
Yes scrolling in "Programs menu" is reaaally slow ... compared to my previous 200 mhz original Touch it's ten times slower and almost impossible to control it with thumb because it takes a lot of time 'till it scrolls down...
I solved this by creating sub folders in programs menu so I don't need to scroll...
Maybe this is because of VGA display and slow GDI support, but I think this really needs some improvements or tweaks.
Any of existing tweaks I tried don't help - Glyph cache does nothing and Fatfs/Filters cache broke my system so I needed to hard reset... And as I can see this filesystem improvements have no influence on graphics performance...
ROM 1.37.401.3 speeds thinks up little bit, but I think windows GDI performance is still very bad on Diamond...
Is GDI accelerated in other ROM? Or can it be solved with some tweak to original 1.37.401.3 ROM?
Yes the scrolling speed is a real issue, it's laggy and sometimes not responsive.. This is a real pain in my ass because I'm coming from a 1st gen iPhone which had extremely smooth scrolling.
i must be lucky...my scrolling is so fast i wish sometimes to know how to make it slower because i can hardly have time to read the name of the programs before i stop...i usually have to scroll back..
no tweaks applied only bepe's last ROM....the biggest tweak of all
Any chance that HTC can solve this problem? I mean - can´t hardware handle it or just bad software?
Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
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I think we are not talking about TF3D but about basic scrolling in WM - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVRouS6HwE and on this video it is not so bad - the more programs you have the slower it is...
When I flash the Bepe's ROM can I then flash back to 1.37.401.3 without losing warranty? Do I need to flash back original SPL before and if so - is it available?
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I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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You might want to check out someone1234 post in the tweak thread above...hes figured out a way to shorten the lag between scrolling screens...give it a try and see if it helps.
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
We must hope that some new ROM will solve this. Anyway, same thing the HTC logo after start or power off. Why it is thare if it is not played smoothly? I know this is becou os phone quick start, but anyway, the should gave a picture there.
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Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
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i dont tink its a issue htc can resolve -> its a os problem -> so its a ms problem.
Do you? I dont know how WM6.1, but my last device WM 5 had 5 times faster scrooling. Is diamond scrooling speed on other devices from other brands? Some E-ten? Mio? etc? I think this is exactly kind of issu HTC can solve very easily, if they would want.
Can someone with other than official-production ROM tell us, if scrolling and GDI performance is better?
Thanks
Yes I tried TLR ROM and it is not. But some good news, I found articles about same slow speed in other devices after upgrade on WM 6. I found some tweak too, but it helped only bit. I wil continue, if I sort out this problem, i will tell you how.
The following ROM has been released on HTC HK site:
hTC Touch Diamond English ROM Code Update (2008/07/23)
ROM version: 1.93.831.1 WWE
ROM date: 07/18/08
Radio Version : 52.29.25.12H_1.00.25.05
* You can check device ROM version from Start -> Setting -> System -> Device Information -> Version.
Description:
1. Enable GSM 850 band.
2. Fixed sometimes no signal issue.
3. Fixed no action while touching navigator control in camera mode.
4. Fixed some files in internal storage which cannot be listed.
5. Fixed SMS sound alert notification delayed issue.
6. Improved audio quality after audio booster is enabled.
7. Improved TouchFLO 3D tab switching and movement speed.
8. Improved home page loading speed.
9. Turned off the 5-second auto screen off function when screen is turned back on by pressing power key during a voice call. Screen off timeout will follow system power setting.
10. Added random access bar to the right hand edge of the screen for selection of weather countries and cities.
where to download it
good question. Im currently on 1.37.707.... so thats a big jump
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this appears to be the HK website but cant find the upgrade
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=133&act=faq&cat=86
Monty Burns said:
good question. Im currently on 1.37.707.... so thats a big jump
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this appears to be the HK website but cant find the upgrade
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=133&act=faq&cat=86
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Need to log in to HTC e-Club..
Sound quality much better now..
I can't see it
I just can't see it - any one fance uploading it?!
the file is more than 100 M and the download speed is terrible or even cannot connect. hope someone can get it....
Totally Agree .
I,ve been waited for almost an hour .
The server is extremely slow .
I can't even find the link after logging into ma account.
Someone.. please
and no rapidshare... 4shared is allright.
Thanks!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720
so no improvements in camera quality and speed???
because i compared the HTC TD camera with the normale touch. and to be honest the normal touch camera is much better and faster, and the image is much more fluid when trying to make a picture. the TD on the other hand trying to make a picture is horrible the image is so slow when you move and try to focus... it's like playing crysis on an old 386 processor
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so no improvements in camera quality and speed???
because i compared the HTC TD camera with the normale touch. and to be honest the normal touch camera is much better and faster, and the image is much more fluid when trying to make a picture. the TD on the other hand trying to make a picture is horrible the image is so slow when you move and try to focus... it's like playing crysis on an old 386 processor
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You're forgetting that the TD's screen has FOUR times the resolution of the touch. Obviously it will be a bit slower if it has four times the work to do.
Look In The Correct Forum
http://rapidshare.com/files/13184678...1.93.831.1.exe
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzpqbz
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CU69CRY
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part1.rar
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part2.rar
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.part3.rar
let's move the discussion here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720
So does anyone know if there is a generic release for the UK market ?
My 1.37.405.1 WWE (Stock Orange ROM) is pants and the fixes here look like fixing a few issues I have... lag post using Opera, general randomness and hit and miss nature of tab sliding.
If so... what do I need to install it on my phone ?
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If so... what do I need to install it on my phone ?
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And ??? Is there an answer ?
joemax said:
And ??? Is there an answer ?
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Yes you do need to install it ..... and then report back and tell us if the rest of us should do the same
And where do I get it and how (in laymans terms) do I install it with a Mac ?
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
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1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
like in thread. I cooked WM6.5.3, build 28205 with Palm OEM. All works: sleep with red button, messaging etc. Without CHome etc (lockscreen too).
Known bug is not opening Start after tapping icon on the screen. You must open Start with hardbutton.
Please test, I try to fix any bugs you find
Download: CLICK
phone need to be hard spl unlocked?
nice work!
but :
1. when you push the phone buttom there is a white sqare that stay for ever...
2. you can choose ringtone only from the phone itself and not from the card.
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1. when you push the phone buttom there is a white sqare that stay for ever...
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oh, really ? I fix this when I could.
Thanks for your efforts! The WM6.5 work for the Treo has slowed to a crawl. Nice to see there are a few of us that still like the Treo's form-factor.
Wow, I really like this ROM. I thought nav's was cool, this is even better! As with nav's ROM, I'll pitch in with some bug reporting.
-Palm's messaging app cannot be closed. It can't be exited, apparently, when I tap the close button on the bottom right it won't close the program. I used Wakutask to minimize it but that's the closest way to minimizing it on one tap (another way to minimize it it to open Start ->Show Today and it should go to the RAM.) Unfortunately, I am unable to use the Task Manager to close it as well. Only a Reboot will clear it away.
-Where is the "Keyguard" control panel applet? I want to turn off keyguard but cannot find the option.
Some other none-Palm related issues:
-When I install FileExplorer Ext, it freezes the phone randomly. Could be a probem with it, so I use Resco explorer for installing cabs :/
-HTC Task Manager doesn't work. Does anyone know which task managing progam is good for the new close button position?
-The aforementioned Waku Task works as designed, but as I mentioned earlier the close button no longer works at the top right (it would if you enable X-button skinning), but having active tasks still on the top bar is great
So, seeing how good this ROM is, minus the above issues, I'm wondering what should we call this ROM? Mietas edition?
Thanks again fo keeping the Treo alive!
more bugs
1.it did not let me to install new programs. I did an hard reset and then i succeed to install softwares.
2.i installed spb keyboard, and when i entered to menu in this software it freez and i needed to do a reset.
Oh this is issue is tottaly awesome. I didnt hope, that someone make new stable rom, with palm oem things. how much free ram is after installation? Want you fix the remaining bugs shortly? I didnt already install it, but i'm going to try it tomorrow.
Many thanks from treo user from czech.
I fix bugs as soon I get a Treo. Probably this week.
Thanks for reporting bugs so much
What about stability, RAM etc?
Finally had the chance to install it. Nice work!
1) I have to admit that I do miss the 'Zune' look of the earlier version's homescreen, but will gladly give it up for the stability and features of this ROM.
2) I had an issue trying to select a ringtone on the Phone Settings Screen. It looks like there is an extra dropdown menu covering up the one where you actually select the ringtone. Once you managed to select the proper dropdown, you could change the ringtone, it just took a little fiddling.
3) When I tried changing themes for the today screen, once switching off the AT&T screen, I couldn't get it back the way it was before the switch. Some of the menus, fonts, and graphics had changed (for example the lower menu bar on the home screen), and the only way I could find to restore it was a hard reset.
4) As others have said, clicking on the Windows logo on the home screen doesn't do anything. You have to use the Windows button on the keyboard.
5) I didn't have the issue reported by mangatron regarding the Messaging app. Mine seems to work fine.
6) The Phone button issue reported by libal is present for me too. It appears to be the menu box that popped up when pressing the phone button, only it goes blank, and as reported it does not go away by leaving that screen. Soft reset does clear it.
Any chance you could share your kitchen with us? This would allow us to make a few of these fixes and will allow us to port to other versions.
Also - When using any mail program it will not allow any reply to an email.
Hmm, Messaging app works fine now. Maybe I had to receive a few sms first, or I suspect my sim card wasn't playing nice with the ROM.
I also use AE Button Plus to map the OK button to actually close programs. That does wonders.
The old battery indicator that used to be in WM6 is half in the top bar. Well, I say half because I can see a part of the lightning icon (when you charge your phone), and a bit of the left shows up. Any way to clear that? Or a bug maybe...
I would like to note people using this ROM for the first time:
-It's always best to clear data after flashing ROM's. Hold Power button and press the Reset button underneath the MiniSD cover. That should clear the old installation setup you had previously, which should fix installation errors.
-The phone may seem sluggish at first setup, just wait for it to load what needs to load, and after you soft reset, everything should be smooth.
-For those that wonder about program compatibility, I tested a WM2003 era program (MADE Text Editor), and it simply overwrites the bottom bar with it's WM2003 style icon style bar. Works fine
As for stability, RAM, the phone operates a bit slower than WM6.1. SKTools benchmarks puts the graphics rendering nearly 100 points lower than WM6.1, and almost 200 points lower than nav's WM6.5 ROM. Maybe if we use his specialized ATI dll it might be faster? Because the CPU is also a bit slow, but only by 1 point, although RAM access time and Main Storage Read/Write is the same as WM6/6.1. I don't really want to tax the RAM, I tested Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u and it operates the same way as on WM6/6.1. I don't want to test Beta 3 because that uses up twice the RAM than Beta 2u.
So far so good though, with a little bit of fixing this ROM can be a winner
Can this be used on Treo 700WX?
or is there WM6.5 ROM for Treo 700WX?
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As for stability, RAM, the phone operates a bit slower than WM6.1. SKTools benchmarks puts the graphics rendering nearly 100 points lower than WM6.1, and almost 200 points lower than nav's WM6.5 ROM. Maybe if we use his specialized ATI dll it might be faster? Because the CPU is also a bit slow, but only by 1 point, although RAM access time and Main Storage Read/Write is the same as WM6/6.1. I don't really want to tax the RAM, I tested Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u and it operates the same way as on WM6/6.1. I don't want to test Beta 3 because that uses up twice the RAM than Beta 2u.
So far so good though, with a little bit of fixing this ROM can be a winner
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I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
Having said that, I can confirm Z3rx's report of not being able to reply to emails. It just returns you to the Inbox when selecting reply either through the menu, or using the left action key. That's a big problem for me as I use e-mail quite a bit on my phone. Hope the OP doesn't disappear, as so many of the Treo 750 cookers seem to do after an initial release.
just wanted to say thanks! i also lost confidence in new wm6.5 roms for our old but good treo 750!
keep up the good work man!
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I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
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Hmm, I can only imagine with nav's ATI driver this Mietas ROM would be a whole lot better, nav's was good basically for font rendering (pretty much every program launched) and Camera quality. The rest, was like you mentioned, it wasn't optimized in a lot of places, most notably for it's RAM management and I would suspect CHome/Titanium existing in his ROM further slowed it down.
Other than that, isn't signal clarity/reception dependant on the Radio Firmware version? Although I wouldn't be surprised because Nav's ROM does not pull both CAP_package and the Carrier database from EXT Rom like Mietas' ROM [probably] does (which would explain it being able to lock on faster, a similar experience I had with Tacoman's WM6.1 and the Chinese WM6.1, with Taco's pulling from EXT Rom while the CHS one didn't)
I would like to add that I currently am using the Database from what was most likely the final Official ENG ROM released by Palm, Vodafone Version 2.30 which according to my digging contains the most up to date Carrier Database (that's where all the world's wireless carrier information is kept). I could imagine if you had this you'd have even better results with your wireless carrier.
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Other than that, isn't signal clarity/reception dependant on the Radio Firmware version? Although I wouldn't be surprised because Nav's ROM does not pull both CAP_package and the Carrier database from EXT Rom like Mietas' ROM [probably] does (which would explain it being able to lock on faster, a similar experience I had with Tacoman's WM6.1 and the Chinese WM6.1, with Taco's pulling from EXT Rom while the CHS one didn't)
I would like to add that I currently am using the Database from what was most likely the final Official ENG ROM released by Palm, Vodafone Version 2.30 which according to my digging contains the most up to date Carrier Database (that's where all the world's wireless carrier information is kept). I could imagine if you had this you'd have even better results with your wireless carrier.
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I'm on AT&T, and did not change the radio firmware when I flashed this ROM. On Nav's ROM I manually set up the AT&T config, but did not have to here. Could be the difference I suppose.
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I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
Having said that, I can confirm Z3rx's report of not being able to reply to emails. It just returns you to the Inbox when selecting reply either through the menu, or using the left action key. That's a big problem for me as I use e-mail quite a bit on my phone. Hope the OP doesn't disappear, as so many of the Treo 750 cookers seem to do after an initial release.
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I agree that I hope the cook does not disappear, which is why I have asked for his cooked kitchen so I can make further improvements or port other version (23541)... however I have not heard anything back.
The email issue is a big problem as many times I can not even start a new email.
Please share your work so we can make a great rom!
Thank you, i was specting for something like this for about a year, anyone has some pictures of this new ROM working???
how the radio works how can i change the radio to get a better signal? here we have 850 umts and gsm 1800
Hi to all,i'm looking for a qwerty-keyboard phone for my gf,and i can't afford umts Blackberry (she has h3g sim),is this phone a good choice,even if it's really old?
I've found it for 90 €,it seems good to me,but i don't want to buy a too slow device.
I'm used to HTC Diamond,which has slightly better hardware but suffers using 3d manila and stuff "overrated" for its hw (despite the claims they sold it with in the past ).
Is Tytn II still good for 2d stuff and normal everyday usage?
I even see it has a dedicated android section,so maybe its better than diamond at handling it,this would be sweet too
Let me know,thanks for help
The build quility is superb, an incredible bit of engineering.
Graphics can be slow for heavy gamers or GPS applications. I really liked mine, only moved on as had it stolen.
I was on a 6.1 standard ROM & it ran very well for all basic phone tasks such as emailing sms/mms ect & handling office docs was good too.
I used it as a modem for notebook internet too. Wifi & BT worked ok & keyboard plus d-pad were nice in function.
Only downside is the weight of the device but for the price today it is incredible value for money, you will only find a few devices that feel such quality in build.
The tilt screen is very cool & they do look good sat on a desk in full tilt.
If she likes the look of it get it, plenty of tweaks & support for the Kaiser so should still be a fun device.
Not so good that it suffers gps apps,but i guess its normal...
And is it good to use limiting touchscreen inputs (she hates touchscreen )?
I mean,except for opening start menu,is it usable with hardware buttons,more than touch?
Yes it is very good in terms of button function.
I improved button function by using mortscripts that would change button function pending on active window & reg keys such as headphones connected, active sync connect ect.
Even the screen is quite good when you need to use it.
Touchscreens are over rated in usability, the touch diamond 2 would of been fantastic if it had a small joy stick d-pad in the centre under buttons but no you have to struggle with that ****e zoom bar touch panel which only has movement in 2 directions.
Tactile feel of buttons can never be replaced by a screen period.
I could do functions on my Kaiser without looking at it as buttons could act like brale.
The slow graphic issue didn't seem that bad to me, I used mapking & Garmin with no issues & played games such as Duke Nukem without issues.
I'm on a touch pro at the moment, I like it but miss the solid build of the Kaiser, it feels unbreakable ...
You could also look at the HTC S710 !
Just bought for my gf...its ****ing awesome,compared to my plastic-breaking-with-breath diamond :asd:
Just waiting to learn how to unlock
Speaking about cooked rom,any suggestion about a speedy rom (not necessarily manila,it just should be "handy to use" and light)?
And should i try android (aka is it fast and functional enough?)
Thanks everybody
edit: oh,and how can i check if it has hardspl installed already?
I was on latest standard rom with graphics driver from HTCCA.
I would start off on a standard ROM unless you spot an interesting custom ROM which has solid feedback.
To view HardSPL version go to bootloader mode:
-Enter Bootloader mode: Hold Camera + Power buttons together and reset with stylus
(exit bootloader by pressing soft reset button)
-HardReset: Hold Talk and End soft key - Reset :When prompted push Green Talk Button
This is the unlock tools I used: (Not sure if supports 3 network !)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3432892&postcount=10
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Go to the ROM development section, read through the FAQ links. That will give you some basic ideas what is available, etc.
If you want great batt life with plenty of memory, use WM 6.1, not 6.5 ..
To know which ROM is best, read through the last pages (10 - 20)of each thread, the feedback from the users will give you overall view. Why I suggested 10-20, because for old ROM that chef has left, recent posts are usually useless, repeating old questions again and again.
°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Link below:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab
It is un-installable & should be no problem.
Make sure that stock 6.1 is the latest release. I can dig out a serial if you require ROM downloading direct from htc website.
how can i find if it's the latest release (i thought there was just one)?
I should have a serial number on mine too,for downloading,or am i missing something?
Thanks for all your help,anyway
@anagarika:wm 6.1 is for sure, even my diamond suffers from 6.5
ps:i entered bootloader,it says SPL 3.29,i guess it's still the original one
Latest HTC generic ROM is:
HTC TyTN II_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
You can see ROM version in Settings device information.
If your device is branded your serial will not work with HTC website, so you will need a serial of a generic HTC kaiser ;-)
Your SPL is original. Installing the hardSPL is easy & unlocking can be quite straight forward but may require downgrading to wm6 ROM to unlock & then upgrading to a 6.1 rom of your choice.
My rom is 3.29.408.o ITA,other stuff is lke you posted...i guess it's the latest one then
Newest Italian is:
_HTC TyTN II_WM6.1_MR2_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_ITA_3.29.408.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.zip
So looks like your on newest ROM.
I already had d3d drivers ("previous version will be uninstalled")...all these concerns for nothing
Anyway i installed spb mobile shell 3.5,themed,and it's a good mid-point between eyecandy and memory usage...
I only have some hang-ups when i make some operations too fast (e.g. i open and reclose very fast an app),making me have to reboot the phone...but it only happens sometimes,and i guess it's related to mobile shell
I tried to install updated camera app yesterday (nadavi 5.xx) but then camera screen turned black,so i uninstalled.
I installed htc album too,but its menus are blank (i can select them with left and right keys,but nothing's written down)...do you know which version of these packages works for sure?
edit:i fixed camera problem,but album issue is still there,although i tried two different versions
Mmm don't know which HTC album viewer is your best option, I used Resco Photo viewer Pro as far surpases the HTC app.
Tried it,perfect program
Thanks a lot (i think there's no way to oc the cpu a little,right?)
Nope, just don't use CPU & graphic heavy software. Mine run sweet & was very usable.