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WM6 Crossbow battery drain

Hi to all,
I, among some others am experiencing battery drain since upgrading to WM6 even though I am running under the same circumstances as before the upgrade with just a few less programs running etc. If anyone can shed any light on a fix for this or suggestions (turning off bluetooth has no great effect) then I would gladly like to hear them.
I know Malik is also experiencing the problem so I know I am not alone.
Thanks.

I am experiencing the exactly the same great battery usage rates between faria, super rom, and wm6. All overclocked at 260.

shannoncole05 said:
I am experiencing the exactly the same great battery usage rates between faria, super rom, and wm6. All overclocked at 260.
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when u overlock a device it drains the battery much much faster then u expect so to help that don't overlock but if u overlock then the battery goes mad because overlocking takes great deal of amount out to make the device faster.

Mahmood said:
when u overlock a device it drains the battery much much faster then u expect.
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I overclocked to 264 (omap) / 286 (bs) MHz without issues. It seems the cpu drains the batt a lot only during "heavy" task execution, e.g. playing a game or watching a movie that is not adapted to qvga. Most of time it just sleeping, as before.
So, i flashed wm6 (pdaviet v.3) and have noticed the same or even less battery drain as before (when my wizard is left alone). You have to check all you're installed to fugure out "the swine"

Vladimyr said:
I overclocked to 264 (omap) / 286 (bs) MHz without issues. It seems the cpu drains the batt a lot only during "heavy" task execution, e.g. playing a game or watching a movie that is not adapted to qvga. Most of time it just sleeping, as before.
So, i flashed wm6 (pdaviet v.3) and have noticed the same or even less battery drain as before (when my wizard is left alone). You have to check all you're installed to fugure out "the swine"
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i have it overclocked to 299 with batterystatus, and no battery drain... the OS isntalled is pdaviet v2 ...

If anything, I've found WM6 to be *better* on battery life than any of the previous WM5 AKUs.
AKU 3.3 would be the best in the WM5 range.

I've also found that the battery life on my device has dramatically increased. I don't have to charge it now for about an extra two days compared to before.

This has been an issue with me as well. I'm running the clean Crossbow ROM (aka Orwells1984 et.al.) Here are the programs I have been running:
2.19 radio rom
Resco Med. Suite 5.42
Pocket Weather
Sprite Backup
Smartskey
Omapclock @ 240mhz
CE Star
I had issues with the today plugin from Resco cutting down my battery life on the old iPAQ 6365. Haven't had ANY problems with previous AKU 3.x versions.

If you're using omapclockplus your device is at normal speeds during standby. I think its the crossbow radio that drains it. Switching between OSs might not change your rom, leaving the battery drain

av0 said:
If you're using omapclockplus your device is at normal speeds during standby. I think its the crossbow radio that drains it. Switching between OSs might not change your rom, leaving the battery drain
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CB does not come with radio. CB is only OS updated.

imisim said:
CB does not come with radio. CB is only OS updated.
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maybe it really is the radio... i moved to 2.17 and since then no battery problems, but im not for sure its that, but possibly since i have same apps installed on fresh WM6 as before when i had battery probs.

Well, I finally did a hard reset and lo and behold the battery drain problem is gone. I had it off the charger for most of the day and kept the WiFi on a bit as well. The ROM on which I really noticed the problem was the Pdaviet3. I'm going to reinstall the Resco Today plugin and see if that does anything. I love this ROM. Clean and fast!

try disconnect "Error reporting". It's on by default.

jwzg said:
Well, I finally did a hard reset and lo and behold the battery drain problem is gone. I had it off the charger for most of the day and kept the WiFi on a bit as well. The ROM on which I really noticed the problem was the Pdaviet3. I'm going to reinstall the Resco Today plugin and see if that does anything. I love this ROM. Clean and fast!
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Weird.. I did this last night too and it seems to have cured the problem...
Anyway I still have the automatic power up issue... Is there a solution other than locking the device? i.e. A registry edit to turn off push email?

I think the battery drain problem MAY have been solved by the hard reset as well.
Tomorrow will be my second day of use since hard reset so I will report my findings.

I remember (when I had Motorola MP220) advice for longer battery life: device should be 100% charged when flashing new ROM. If not, charge it 100% and do the hard reset.
BTW, I had battery drain with Pdaviet ROM v3, 'cose the smatskey was set for overclocking by default.

i own a xda mini s with crossbow (orwells ROM and Radio 1.19), i use direct push and don't have any battery problem.

Had the same problem: batter drained 2 or 3 times as fast as regularly.
Used:
- TomTom6
- SPB Weather
- PocketPC Wakeup
- Resco todayplugin
- Todaytime
Just did a hard reset and reinstalled TomTom & SPB weather.
Everything ran fine, til I installed PocketPC Wakeup.CAB...
So that one might be the problem....
Anyone else tested their software for batterydraining problems?

batterystatus might also be a problem.
I hard reset, did not install batterystatus but installed rest of my normal apps; this solved both my wakeup issues and battery drain issues.
P.S. simply uninstalling batterystatus did nothing, had to reset.

No batterystatus is not the cause because the first time when I had the issue was without batterystatus ever being installed. The problem hasn't really been back even though I now have it installed.

question on wm6 and battery

Hi all,
I have installed the WM6.1 ROM 6.1.2a16CS by C. Shekhar on my qtek2020.
It is very cool and gave a second life to my qtek. I am just a bit surprised by the duration of the main battery. It is running out of bat very fast.
As I haven't used my qtek for month before installing the new ROM, I can't tell if it's a battery problem or because this new ROM is consuming more resources. Have you noticed such behavior on your machines?
For further info I am not using my qtek as cell phone. I am thinking about using it back as a phone, but I have first to fix this battery aspect.
Moreover I have read s/t about a battery fix, that I haven't installed yet. Can s/o tell me more about this fix and what it is doing?
Anyway this ROM is a great one.
Thx for your answers
Marc

I dont know about the battery fix but i have never installed any sort of fix like that either for wm5 or wm6.x. Are you sure there isnt some background process that keeps on continuously running? It could be a battery problem if the battery had discharged alot during the non-operational period. I changed by himas battery about 7-8months back because the last battery had gotten abit too old and was discharging very quickly.

i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registery fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low

well, WM5 and WM6.x IMHO are battery consuming ROMs, i can attest to this,
experiment no. 1:
same xda, same battery (1200mAH original battery)
-with WM2003SE at normal use, XDA turns off approx after 36 hrs of use including standby.
-with WM5 and WM6.x, XDA turns off WM5-18hrs, WM6.x-25hrs of use including standby.
experiment no. 2:
two xda, different OS, both with brand new 3600mAH extended life battery.
in 1 day (at heavy texting use from 7am to 7pm):
WM2003SE XDA2 - battery from 100% to 58%
WM6.X XDA2 - battery from 100% to 35%
possible explanation:
WM6.x (WM5) uses more CPU time and Memory resources, plus it probably uses more power in maintaining the persistent storage, hard and soft reset persistent memory.

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ather90 said:
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registry fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
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Ather, is this fix already in all/most recent releases? If not, can you give us a link? Never heard of it.
I have no battery problems, quite the contrary. My battery life is amazing me. To be honest I tweaked a lot when I started using WM6.x, too much to remember, too much to tell you.
but some parts:
I don't need 24/7 phone connection, Phone Alarm takes care of this for me
Use a bare minimum of today plug-ins
Avoid animations
Close programs except when you seriously do need them in the background

Heya Maggy...its long time since i saw u here.. think maybe month
welcome back ny ways
well that fix was in the Imate website..i have it
having some problem attaching on xda : http://www.2shared.com/file/3591354/873d3f18/SD-Card_Patch.html

Diamond RAM Usage Percentage

Hi,
My Diamond RAM usage is normally if i just did a soft reset 53%> and if i used it and turn off the screen 60% or higher...
Is this normal because i see movies on youtube where some guy has 32% usage of the RAM...
If anyone is going to recommend me to get rid of the default ROM and get myself another one, i need one that is very clos tot the stock its ROM and i'd like to have it Dutch...

i'm using the diamond from telus mobility, my ram usage on boot hovers @ 30%... with multiple programs running, itll be like 40-43%

I saw that video too I can't believe it's so low, even with the fastest cleanest rom at best it would be ~45%. I wonder if it has anything to do with CDMA vs. GSM?

willyy1991 said:
Is this normal because i see movies on youtube where some guy has 32% usage of the RAM...
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Are you sure he use a diamond ? and not a touch pro ? I think the pro have more RAM, I'm wrong ?

im running right now @ 35%... how is that so impossible? lol do u guys not believe me?

Mine is more about 70%...

mine is always about 60%...when I launch a program it's about 80%

Are you using touchflow3d MightyMike? That takes a lot!

I'm running latest official ROM and the usage hardly goes over 70% ever.
At startup its ranges from 49~53%. (including gsen and some battery meter in the startup)
It seems OK to me^^.
I'd be more concerned about the RAM storage space, which is a serious issue to me!
cheers

mine @ boot = 53 and then creeps up slowly, and also creeps up after using apps (still memory leaks? )

Thats strange im using the latest stock-ROM too, well i hope htc will bring a new update and takes the RAM usage down because hovering @ 60% or higher is just too much if you want to run a program..
mightymike84 said:
i'm using the diamond from telus mobility, my ram usage on boot hovers @ 30%... with multiple programs running, itll be like 40-43%
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Using TF3D?

My ram usage is about 53% on boot with tf3d and s2u2 running.
Try to disable phone dialer skin...ram usage is 45% at startup!!!!

Just tried without the dialer : 62% at boot with T3FD. In fact i was about at 70% with the dialer...
But i don't see how to reach 45% !!!!!!! seems impossible to me ! perhaps desactivating the 3G ?
Ciao
Fred

46% at boot with smartblock running at startup. touchFlo 3d is running too. Panosha ROM. Not bad

Yes guys, i am running TF3D... put it this way i have a lot of tweaks, BUT
i've hardresetted many times, and at STOCK rom base apps, no tweaks, i boot @ 30% memory usage right now i'm @ 37% with palringo, and msn running

someone give me a small program to take screenshots, and i'll take one for you guys!

This is my memory usage upon soft reset
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I possibly think its a difference in ram between the gsm vs cdma model... sorry guys!

mightymike84 said:
This is my memory usage upon soft reset
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I possibly think its a difference in ram between the gsm vs cdma model... sorry guys!
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Mine is at 32% fresh boot

Mine is at 65% after boot and after a couple of min it goes to 70%+ And using the radio i get 80%

Wifi wastes so many resources

My phone usually runs at 70% memory usage and when I turn the Wifi on it jumps to 85-90%, half the time when I'm using Opera with the Wifi it shuts down because it says too much stuff is open. I'm using the Swift WWE 7 ROM. Anyone know what's wrong?

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70%!!!
mine usually runs at 50% ish
i'd have a look at what u have installed/running

mugglesquop said:
70%!!!
mine usually runs at 50% ish
i'd have a look at what u have installed/running
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When I look in the task manager there's nothing running

Does everyone else's run at 70% too or am I the only one??

Mine (standard UK "minimal" Orange ROM) with Contacts/Activesync/Pocket Informant/Outlook running shows 72%, which stays at 72% when I connect Wi-Fi.
IE adds 1%, Opera adds 3%.

allenf said:
Mine (standard UK "minimal" Orange ROM) with Contacts/Activesync/Pocket Informant/Outlook running shows 72%, which stays at 72% when I connect Wi-Fi.
IE adds 1%, Opera adds 3%.
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That's weird I'd think WiFi would use at least SOME resources

I'm using swtos ROM and I'm running 50'ish normally. Before the ROM switch my phone used to run at 60ish sometimes, even 70 something - it would simply choke at those percentages - specially when I was surfing the net. Multi-tasking was nearly impossible. Thanks HTC.
It was almost not usable when wifi was turned on. Now I can surf and multitask easily with the new ROM.
I just switched Wifi on now and I'm running at 59%.

Vector-SS said:
I'm using swtos ROM and I'm running 50'ish normally. Before the ROM switch my phone used to run at 60ish sometimes, even 70 something - it would simply choke at those percentages - specially when I was surfing the net. Multi-tasking was nearly impossible. Thanks HTC.
It was almost not usable when wifi was turned on. Now I can surf and multitask easily with the new ROM.
I just switched Wifi on now and I'm running at 59%.
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Can you link me to that ROM, I might try it out. I'm using Swift which I thought was supposed to be one of the "best" but apparently not, unless I did something else that's messing it up

rpimps said:
That's weird I'd think WiFi would use at least SOME resources
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I've just reproduced those results - Wi-Fi isn't using any extra resources here.

I was running at 79% with ActiveSync, Album, Contacts, SMS/MMS, Notes, Tasks and Calendar
I had also previously opened up the Programs and System tabs (which even after closing bumps up the %).
When turning on the Wifi it only added 1%.
Might be worth switching ROM ?

Don't think it's the ROM. I am running SwiftBL 7.0 as well and turning on Wifi makes very little difference to resources

What pagepool settings are you using? Swiftblades ROMs come in 16mb and 0 mb (=dynamic) pagepool flavors. A higher mem usage is normal with these pagepools and unless your device actually feels slow it's nothing to worry about.
I'm using Duttys 2.8 CVSD presently. After 2 days without softreset it's at 72%, with internet sharing on. Device still feels snappy.
Whan using Wifi, do you also use Opera? It can be a memory hog sometimes. Since there are so many different builds, I'd look into if another build has better memory management.

Its not just ROM problem. my Raphael was having some troubles like that to.
( i sold mine, i dislike this device).
Seems, WIFI hard conf have a lot of QOS and package filters loaded ( look at driver rgu).
Some programs you use with streams, do the device almost unusable.
I get out almost all package filters from wifi and this stopped ( well, almost).
Just sharing acknowledgement, besides i dont have any more the device.

Here are some ROMS from Swtos. I used the second ROM in that list. As for Wifi and resources, I actually realized that mine does not use anything- unlike what I said in the previous post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418312

losdrivare said:
What pagepool settings are you using? Swiftblades ROMs come in 16mb and 0 mb (=dynamic) pagepool flavors. A higher mem usage is normal with these pagepools and unless your device actually feels slow it's nothing to worry about.
I'm using Duttys 2.8 CVSD presently. After 2 days without softreset it's at 72%, with internet sharing on. Device still feels snappy.
Whan using Wifi, do you also use Opera? It can be a memory hog sometimes. Since there are so many different builds, I'd look into if another build has better memory management.
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I'm not sure what my pagepool settings are, how do I check? And yes I do use Opera.
Is there any software that can backup every single thing on your phone (settings / contacts / contact pictures / etc) so when you update ROMs you don't have to do everything over again?

How to measure mem usage
Hi,
How do I measure memory usage. When I add up the memory usage in task manager I get 40mb, but the htc website says the diamond has 192mb memory -- am i really only using this much?

jaymit said:
Hi,
How do I measure memory usage. When I add up the memory usage in task manager I get 40mb, but the htc website says the diamond has 192mb memory -- am i really only using this much?
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Just look at the %

SPB MS 3 on Diamond

hi
m using SPB MS 3 on my diamond (which has Dutty last ROM release)
however when i am using MS , the used RAM goes up from 42 % to 52 % , anybody have a similar situation with MS on their diamond ? is that huge increase normal ?
have already disabled things like animations & 3d acceleration
pls help...tq

That's not something to worry about. After you started and closed a couple of programs, and basically been running your diamond for a while, your RAM usage goes up, even when you don't have anything open. It shouldn't keep increasing though.
If it really bothers yuo try looking for CleanRam it'll be in the forum somewhere. It's a pretty cool tool.
But 52% RAM should be fineYou won't notice a difference in performance from 42%.

jz been wonderin if ppl hav been encounterin a similar scenario
not worried much bout the ram itself , but more the battery usage from the higher ram