8525 3G? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Don't know if this is the right spot, but, I am looking at an 8525 on Ebay and they state that it is a 3G phone... I thought the 8925 was the 3G model... Am I thinking correctly??
Here is the phone:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlocked-HTC-85...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

The 8525 is also a 3G phone. The major differences between the two are the camera/gps/RAM and ROM space/ and dual core processor. I had both and the 8925 is definitely a far superior phone.
**Edit**
This should actually be in the Hermes forum.........
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes

Thank You!!

You are most welcome

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new and seeking advice

Hello,
I've been reading up on the kaiser for a little while now and think the specs are amazing.
I've been meaning to get a new phone for a while now, upgrade from my samsung e715. I'm thinking about getting the t-mobile wing as a replacement.
I was wondering if this is a feasible idea, I mean, with the possibility of at&t getting the kaiser, should I wait for that to unlock it?
Will T-mobile be getting a nicer/better version of the p4550 when/if there 3G network goes up?
Just seeking some input, and any would be much appreciated. Thank you
Yea... upgrade! WM will be a bit of a shock to you, it's quite different than what you're used to in terms of mobile telephony. The Kaiser would be a great piece of technology for anyone to own, however the price tag may not be everyone's cup of tea. Personally I plan to get an unlocked one for some 800 dollars. ATT may offer it for 500 with 2 year plan. As for unlocking, if you have international travel ahead of you in a near future then I believe there is a SIM unlock solution already. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until you need it unlocked.
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
lemonhead said:
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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if i were you i wouldnt get the wing. its too slow, plus on a lot of them theres a memory problems. i used to have t-mobile but when i switched to cingular i found out they're much better and the signal is much better. also you get more minutes for the same price t-mobile offers.
so right now i have a t-mobile sda unlocked for cingular, just waiting for the kaiser. I dont know how long it will take before there is a Kaiser Sim unlock utility, so you can either get an unlocked htc kaiser or the AT&T Tilt (their calling the 8925 that now) and wait for a sim unlock utility.
think it would work on the t-mobile 3g network? on the 1700 band?

Edge, but no 3G in Tennessee At&t

Hello all-
I just got in my Diamond today and after working on it about an hour, I still can only get Edge (and very small reception and SSLLOOWW data). I currently have a tilt with a flashed ROM running 6.1 and got perfect 3G reception from it here at my desk. I use At&t here. Could the lack of the 850 band be my issue. Please give me some clues or point me to a tutorial to get everything set up to par for my Diamond. I've already searched this whole forum.
Thanks a lot!
Oh dear here we go again....if you had done a search you would have saved yourself so much hassle.
The Diamond you have wont support 3G on AT&T because its missing a £G attenna...even though your settings will show that it can support the band for AT&T 3G but in reality you CANNOT get 3G access with the Diamonds that are out at the moment.
Only way your going to be able to get 3G in America is by waiting for the proper American version of the phone...as to when its out...could be july/August.
Well...Thats the bad part of me that gets way too excited. I'm going to try to return it. I'm sure my fiance that im marrying in 3 weeks will love to hear the news of my lack of research. Thanks!
LOL its ok...its just been explained a few times on here that the Diamonds that are on the market arent really suitable for the American 3G market...your just gonna have to wait a bit for the American version.
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
bzowk said:
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
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No problems buddy, its ok...thats what we are here for...to help each other out.
Apologies if i was a bit abrupt in my first post...been a long day
no 3g
for what it is worth, i have the same issue with no 3g but i have edge and so far find it fine for what i need it for. For others, the added speed that you get may be worth it. I love my Diamond otherwise, despite the battery. I will however get the usa version when it comes out, mainly for reception purposes since i feel the lack of 850 band lessens the reception a little... But so far I love it. Btw i have the ME rom which is fast and smooth and have no issues so far other than i cant hide the SIM contacts even with the tweak.

Diamond and AT&T 3G network.

Hi everyone:
I just bought a new HTC Diamond and brought it back to US.
In US I'm using AT&T and my previous phone was HTC TytnII which also brought from Taiwan.
When I was using TytnII, I can get 3G signal with no problem at all.
However yesterday when I get off the plane and put my ATT sim card into my new Diamond, I can only get EDGE signal.
I read some threads in the forum already and I found out that maybe is the radio's problem.
Now here is my question, I checked my config of the radio option in Diamond and I found out that I did have the option for UMTS(850+1900) which I know that AT&T use this freq. for 3G network. So how could I still have no 3G signal after all? Is this a hardware limitation? Or should I upgrade my radio rom(I think I'm using .05 radio right now since I haven't upgraded anything.)
Please help me out here because I really have no clues...Tks.
try installing or have it sign in on att network...check your network setting...or find htc network config cab that should do it.
make sure that its sign in on medianet or pda plan which ever you have. you can google att network sign in
Did you buy the U.S. 3G version? It's got a bigger battery(1350) and a rubberized battery cover.
I tried using Network Wizard to reset but still no good news.
Can you tell me what kind of data plan you are using right now?
Mine is 19.99/month but I know there is a PDA data plan.
I'm wondering maybe it's the data plan that restricts me from 3G network.
However I'm still able to access MediaNet network via EDGE though.
juiceppc said:
Did you buy the U.S. 3G version? It's got a bigger battery(1350) and a rubberized battery cover.
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No it doesn't. I had a US Diamond purchased from Best Buy, and it looked identical to the European version.
To the OP:
Unless you bought the US version of the Diamond, it does not have the hardware necessary to connect to AT&T's 3G network.
NotATreoFan said:
No it doesn't. I had a US Diamond purchased from Best Buy, and it looked identical to the European version.
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He was confused. The CDMA version in the US (and Telus in Canada?) has the larger battery with the non-faceted back.
NotATreoFan said:
No it doesn't. I had a US Diamond purchased from Best Buy, and it looked identical to the European version.
To the OP:
Unless you bought the US version of the Diamond, it does not have the hardware necessary to connect to AT&T's 3G network.
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I don't want to sidetrack this thread, but I don't believe you bought the unlocked US 3g version. Mine is missing the front camera (different then the european version), and it has the 1340 battery and "rubberized" backing. Bought mine through bestbuy also.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8986617&type=product&id=1218005636408
rpassmore said:
I don't want to sidetrack this thread, but I don't believe you bought the unlocked US 3g version. Mine is missing the front camera (different then the european version), and it has the 1340 battery and "rubberized" backing. Bought mine through bestbuy also.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8986617&type=product&id=1218005636408
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Agree with rpassmore. I bought mine from Best Buy and it comes with the bigger battery and different battery cover (it's different both in that it's rubberized, and also bigger to accomodate the bigger battery).
Perhaps the confusion is such that the latest Euro models also include these upgrades?? In any case, the first run of the Euro model was a few millimeters thinner due to a smaller battery and battery cover, and the battery cover also had a shiny finish too.
The Diamond I bought from Best Buy ($699) had the faceted back similar to the Fuze. I didn't pay attention to the battery since the phone was too small for me overall.

HTC Diamond (Chinese)

Okay so i bought a Chinese HTC Diamond in China.
It looks exactly like the original one and the only difference is that it doesnt have WIFI and some other features like the camera has worse quality (2mp).
I tried using my T-Mobile (USA) Sim Card but the phone isn't connecting to the network. This phone is Triband (900/1800/1900) and works in GSM, GPRS and EDGE networks.
It is technically "unlocked" but i'm not really sure.
Anyone know what could be the problem?
Should I update the ROM to quadband to solve this?
Thank you in advance!
r u sure that one is not a fake diamond?
It is a fake diamond.... but a high quality copy, it works exactly like the original one. It was really cheap compared to it's features.
I'm just asking how can i make it work in the USA? It is triband and it should work with my tmobile sim card.
thazeid said:
It is a fake diamond.... but a high quality copy, it works exactly like the original one. It was really cheap compared to it's features.
I'm just asking how can i make it work in the USA? It is triband and it should work with my tmobile sim card.
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Usually what the spec says does not mean it actually has them, often total BS.
Don't expect too much, get a real diamond.
ericlin0122 said:
Usually what the spec says does not mean it actually has them, often total BS.
Don't expect too much, get a real diamond.
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Yeah okay, if you're all gonna say that you're not helping me.
What it's done, it's done.
I can't afford a real diamond so i got this one really cheap and its actually a really good phone. And i checked the radio and it says "GSM 900/1800" and "PCS1900" so it has to be minimum dual-band, and i believe T-Mobile should work with it.
So if anyone knows about any update for this phone that could get it to work, please tell me. For now i will just check if it works with AT&T sim card or other carriers.
Thanks.
I don't thinks update with some ROM is possible It's not a Diamond but a simil-Diamond!!!
D'rath
D'rath said:
I don't thinks update with some ROM is possible It's not a Diamond but a simil-Diamond!!!
D'rath
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I can always try, if i unlocked the 850 gsm band it would work with in the US.
The problem could be that it is only dual band (Europe) instead of triband?
So ill just call tmobile today and see what happens.
thazeid said:
Okay so i bought a Chinese HTC Diamond in China.
It looks exactly like the original one and the only difference is that it doesnt have WIFI and some other features like the camera has worse quality (2mp).
I tried using my T-Mobile (USA) Sim Card but the phone isn't connecting to the network. This phone is Triband (900/1800/1900) and works in GSM, GPRS and EDGE networks.
It is technically "unlocked" but i'm not really sure.
Anyone know what could be the problem?
Should I update the ROM to quadband to solve this?
Thank you in advance!
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It is a fake Diamond, the LCD only is QVGA!!!
what a fake...
Well, I'm a Chinese,and I'm using a HTC Touch Diamond.I'm sure that you've got a fake one,which is well known to our Chinese as a name of Shanzhai(zh sounds like dr),the name means it is made in small or OEM factory,but usually, Shanzhai cell has a lot of function(such as extraordinary standby ability etc.)
Lot of Functions and stability but Diamond's ROMs and Radios aren't compatible ^^ so thazeid don't solve his problems with Diamond SW
D'rath

KAISER: A Thing of the Past?

Hello everyone,
Been away for a short while, but I'm noticing that not much is happening new with the Kaisers. The cooks are gone to other things, and therefore tech support is far and in-between by what I've been reading over several posts in each of the Kaiser forum sections. I was just logging in to try and get help with making my volume louder (for the in-call volume AND the speaker), but my cook has gone, and seemingly not much is happening with regards to the ROM's needs.
So, is everyone going to I-Phones, or FUZE devices, etc.?
I'm curious because I'm really aggitated with AT&T right now. I just realized when I bought my wife her Samsung Epix, that JUST for buying the phone, I'm REQUIRED to have a $30/month data plan for her. She doesn't cruise the net on her phone. But she DOES text (I have the family unlimited messaging plan). She needs a device with a storage card so she can text, use the MS Office Apps, etc.. NOT cruise the net.
So, I'm thinking about changing carriers, but don't know anyone else other than T-Mobile that will accept my SIM card. And SOME say that trying the T-Mobile SIM card in my Kaiser will render the GPS, messaging, data, etc... applications useless.
So, just tryin' to get a feel of what to do next.
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
josefcrist said:
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Thanks. I appreciate that.
josefcrist said:
everything will work just fine. you should swithc to tmobile. tmobile is much cheaper than att. i used my kaiser on tmobile for nearly a year with no problems if you bring your own phone they wont make you have a data plan but if you buy one of their tmobile branded phones they will make you activate with a dada plans. anyway if you have any questions just pm me
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Isn't the bands of the Tilt regards 3G different than AT&T? Thought the Tilt couldn't get 3G when using a T-Mobile sim?
Indeed the bands are different. You can't get 3G on T-Mobile with the Tilt. I use mine on Tmo everyday, with full GPS and everything. Tmo doesnt really have great 3G coverage anyways, so I don't really miss it all that much. But yeah, just use the combo SIM and CID unlocker, and slap that SIM into your Tilt and all is good to go.
Le Kaiser est morte, Vive Le Kaiser
Yeah...with the advent of more powerful phones in the HTC line (I recently went Rhodium/Tilt2), the Kaiser/Tilt is pretty much a dinosaur. I am still keeping the lovable brick for a backup. I've tried many roms...Thanks Dutty, Mr. NATF and TwoPumpChump for creating and releasing them, but unfortunately the Tilt's time for "Operation Upgrade" had come.
On the flip side though there are still folks cooking out there for Kaiser, ya just gotta know where to look and who to ask! Yeah, the unlocked Tilt will run with a T-mobile SIMM ( or any other network's SIMM), just not at the full potential that one would get on it's native network.
Good luck and good use!

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