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Is that possible? Everything I've read involving upgrading the ROM; I'm not interested in loosing all my settings etc, I just want a better radio ROM since mine looses EDGE/GPRS connection periodically. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.
This is possible to do. The files are in the usual place, and remember to unlock your CID first.
Be aware that it may claim that it will change your OS Rom version and/ir it may overestimate the time required--this is normal. Your OS Rom will stay the same and it should take only a minute or two.
I upgraded mine the night before last. I didn't use CID unlock or anything. I just d/l'd the file Wizard_GSM_11210.exe from the ftp and double clicked on it. It does tell you that you will lose everything and your OS is being upgraded, but that did not happen, it was just compiled with that installer, that's all, so don't worry.
My signal is stronger and my speakerphone works great now. I lost nothing and nothing else was changed.
Good luck.
Yep - done on my T-Mobile MDA. The stock radio ROM sucked bananas.
Will it adversely affect my Cingular 8125 in any way?
works!
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I installed the Wiz radio rom from the FTP site and it worked. EDGE and even Wifi seemed mroe stable and faster now. And all my data's still there!
As for the 8125, my friend got one of them and I'll ask him to try updating his radio rom with this same file and see if it breaks it.
Wow! It really does make a tremendous difference, thanks fellas!
which is the last version of the RADIO ROM ?
I got 01.13.10 inside the last WWE qtek wizard upgrade (1.6.7.1)
That's probably it. My phone came with 1.09 and the ROM I just applied is 1.12.
Would upgrading my MDA's Radio ROM to 1.13.10 adversely effect my battery life?
Well, if you get signals where you had none before, you might use the phone a lot more, so that would use more energy.
Seriously, I haven't noticed any difference in my battery's state of charge or rate of discharge.
So is it safe to say that the Radio ROM upgrades (1.12/1.13) are better than the stock US TMo MDA Radio ROM? I'm looking to upgrade but don't want to wind up with worse reception and/or a void warranty. Suggestions?
you could always use aWizard and backup your radio so if you need to return the unit for any reason, you could restore the old rom. i backed all of my stuff up and its sittin on in a folder hidden away
Thanks for the suggestion blazin...I'll have to start the process of learning about aWizard and how to use it.
Settings and whatnot
I have been trying to figure out the pluses to tampering, and this is one of the first threads where I have actually found a real positive. I am kinda simple though I have been weighing the options of flashing the ROM to reclaim some storage. I LIKE the voice dial on it right now. I could care less about the pdf viewer. I can download adobe and install it to SD. What other cabs in the extended ROM can I do without, how much storage can I reclaim, and how stable is the ROM I obtain. How difficult will it be to get the settings right to make good calls. I don't use edge or gprs for data. I do use wifi at home and around town. Is there a "for dummies" primer on how to do this. I am not a complete rookie with PPC, but I have no programming knowledge whatsoever. These threads rapidly leave me in the dust. I feel like a mule looking at a new gate quite often. :lol:
Hi all,
Just got myself an O2 XDA(ii). I have heard people banging on about WM5 and how I should upgrade the OS.
However, one question - why do it?
What will I gain by doing the upgrade?
Will it consume more system resources and therefore have an overhead performance?
What woes will be introduced by upgrading - will it break anything?
Is WM5 really as stable as WM3?
I hope I can get answers to these questions!!
Many thanks!
why use windows when dos works fine?
Windows is a GUI, dos is a CLI.
Both human interfaces are radically different.
The questions I posed are reasonable.
Try this..
borrow a WM5 device from someone for a day and dont use ur WM2003 device.
If u like something in that device, install WM5 on your BA and test it, try it
I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
WM5 VS WM3
Hi,
It is a true question,
- I have just used WM5 a week. So I hope my experience will be useful for you.
Fist, the WM5 store all data on it's ROM so you won't lost you data example: instaled program in device, contacts, SMS, MMS... if it run out of energy, hard reset... But, that causes the speed is slower than official WM2003 Version 1.42.
It still remain some bugs example: sometime freeze when you turn it on, BT and wifi sometime need a softreset to turn on.
The energy consumsion is the same (waiting phone mode). Others depend on backlight, % CPU usage.
Certainly WM5 have much more feature. I really don't known what I should advice you now because I still often reset 1-2 time/day like my laptop. But I don't like thing which is the same forever expecialy softwares.
I hope you can have your answer.
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I thought that this was a technical website for developers - I had hoped for some slightly more in depth answers, like contrasting for example:
consumption of system resources
bugs
reliability
speed
new system features
security
power management
etc...
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Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
This is xda-developers so the question of why use WM5 on BA sort of answers itself by the simple fact that M$ has not given it to us in the first place (well this could also not be true as M$ did make a copy but none of the providers gave us a rom so that we all go out and by a new WM5 Device).
So why not? In the long run its more of a matter of taste, some have gone for and stayed with the WM5 on a BA, others have gone back and others have gone and brought a REAL WM5 device.
Its up to you, if you read the threads (of which there are many) you will find reasons to stay away and reasons to install it. Like I say its sort of personal.
Oh yes DOS was and is cool, still to this day I use it.
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out
Dude
why don't you just flash to WM5 try it out, and if you don't like it go back 2k3, makes the most sense. You seem like a smart chap i'm sure you can figure it out, no harm to the device, and you'll get all your answers bra
My two cents if you like command line and stability learn linux, bash away!
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Hi Daeljan,
Welcome to the community! I'm sorry if some of the guys answered like that, but you have to understand that this question pops in from newbies every couple days "Why shall I do it?", "What's the difference", etc... So some of us just get tired of answering!
I am sure however, that you'll find many extremely interesting, highly technical threads.
So, to answer your question: WM2K+3 vs WM5
- I believe that part of doing it was actually to try to see it could be done, I mean the operators left us with an exceptional device (the BlueAngel) without upgrade, so many of us felt "betrayed" and wanted to get the latest, and greatest despite the lack of official support for a release.
- The LATEST version of WM5 (Helmi v3.2) is much more stable that the early versions, I'm currently running it and never think about downgrading back to WM2K3. Amongst the things I find interesting:
- The OS is almost as fast as WM2K3, in fact I run all most of the new versions of software flawlessly.
- WM5 has flat memory and no sharing between the "Storage" and "Execution" spaces (Which is something you will immediately notice on your old OS), so you get more running memory for your applications.
- Because of the above, WM5 has "resilient" storage, i.e. a reset will not erase your data, that alone is a great advantage.
- Some apps that do not run anymore on WM2K3 are now accessible for our community.
- Some applications are natively available on WM5 (Like Mobile PowerPoint) for example, and are not there on WM2K3.
- Better synchronization with your desktop device (You can, for example see your contact pictures directly synchronized, whereas with WM2K3, you can't).
On the other hand, we have a few issues (That are getting fixed with every new release), like:
- Slightly higher power consumption.
- A very, very ugly bluetooth protocol stack... People are doing an amazing job there, and the problem is almost over.
- Other minor issues that you'll discover while browsing the links.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
W.
1) click search, type an abbrevieted version of your first post in it.
2) be swamped with a massive amount of posts ABOUT THE SAME THING.
3) repeat in future.
(sorry if im being a bit harsh but i myself have awnserwed this question many times before, just search in future!)
Thank you all for your answers, and sorry for making you repeat yourselves.
I suppose that this is an obvious topic for discussion that many people naturally want to know about.
So why not post a summary of it all somewhere where people can find it without having to mine the forums? I searched the FAQ for WM5, Upgrade, Windows Mobile 5, in various combinations and nothing came up.
The bluetooth problems are a little scary though if the XDA is to be used as a GPS, connected to the antenna via bluetooth.
Anyhow, thanks again.
Hic
You can try, it is easy to downgrade, not compelex as in the instruction.
1. Change to bootloader mode, connect USB run Ship file,
2. After the instaltion procces finished, softreset your BA.
3. The first start maybe get mistake, cause ExtraRom could be changed, softreset again, your BA will run in a pure state, unhide ExtraROM-softreset, copy all files in the ExtraROM of Ship file (extract from Ship file) to the ExtraROM, you can also change ExtraRom as you want.
4. Hardreset---everything is OK.
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Very nice post you did there old chap, thanks. You almost got me to try it all over again.
I use the ROM in my signature and I find it great apart from the odd problem but that could be from the 50+ apps I have on it.
Go for it...
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Thank you very much for that answer!
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy. I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
If anyone else would like to add something of similar content to this thread, I'd be very happy to read about it.
Cheers.
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OK, I'll try to give you a different slant on things....
WM5 utilises persistent storage (as stated above) which means that, should you find yourself in the unfortunate position that your BA has run out of juice you'll retain all your data (even the RAMDisk contents contrary to some other peoples posts). This is not the case in WM2003SE. If you let the battery run down in WM2003SE it's adios amigo! And start all over again.
WM2003SE while quite stable, is not perfect, especially once you have several apps installed and use it aggressively. WM5, while technically only in beta for this device (as they are mostly hacked/patched/ported ROM's) can prove to be a very stable platform. I have used nearly every version of WM5 on this forum to try and find the 'right' one... and I use my BA constantly, for business purposes and satnav guidance.
Comparing the 2 OS's is like comparing Windows XP and Vista... XP is a proven system, Vista is not, so direct comparison would be unfair to either... as for performance, with the tweaks now found in the newer WM5 ROM's I find my BA responds as well, if not better, than with WM2003SE, battery consumption is a little higher but that can be resloved with any of the CPU throttling apps available...
I wholeheartedly recommend the AKU 2.6 version of Helmi's ROM. I went away on business recently with WM2003SE installed and while away flashed this version of the ROM. My reason for being back with WM2003SE prior to this was the sluggishness of my BA after a while of running WM5. During my absence the Page Pool fix reared its head and all seemed to be good in the world. While AKU3.2 is the newest version of WM5 it has inherent compatability issues with much of the software available for WM5, even Microsoft's own such as Voice Command (an app I actually make use of!). The AKU2.6 ROM doesn't have these issues, and with the paging fix does not become sluggish at all.
9 weeks on and my system has only frozen once, and that was with a 'hacked' piece of software so I don't blame the system... I have not had to reflash once, and I honestly don't remember having to soft reset... I have yet to find a WM5 compatible app which doesn't work with it, and I use it day in, day out.
In short, I jumped on the WM5 bandwagon some time agao and was very disillsusioned at one point, so much so that I returned to WM2003SE... However I missed the smoother GUI, the much better handling of popups and alerts, the tighter integration with Outlook, the better operation of ActiveSync and so forth, so I came back to the fold, and I will not be downgrading again...
If you use Push Email anything after AKU2 (or is it 2.3?) is a Godsend, and believe me, the overall feel of the OS is much smoother, it feels like a 'pocket pc', rather than a really gucci phone!!
I use my BA to play media, read newsfeeds, browse the web, check/send email, and all the other stuff my mates do on their laptops, and if you have the right settings for your provider there should be no issues with connectivity... I have A2DP set up as well so I have a stereo BT headset for music/video etc... I run TomTom, Garmin Que, OziExplorer...
Oh! And I use it as a PDA/Organiser, my life is on that brick, and believe me, it gets hammered!!
I also have an XDA Exec now and to be honest I prefer the BA... although I do love my IQ (but Smartphone is a whole different kettle of fish)!!
I hope this gratuitous plug of WM5 helps sway your decision
I personally like WM5. The issue for me, and the reason I bought the SX66 in the first place, was screen size and muscle. Alot of the affordable WM5 devices out have small screens compared to what I am used to in a PDA. I cannot afford and Jasjar (wish I could) so I looked for something with a decent screen size and processing power.
The SX66 was the only choice for me, EXACTLY because I could flash it too WM5 Haven't looked back since. I run my games (Morphgear - SNES), work with my files without having to squint too much, play my music and get phone calls. Coolest thing in the world.
I have compared it side by side with the 8125 and the windows Treo, it kept up easy enough. Out did them in some area's, lost in one (no camera)... but in the end its just as functional as the new ones.
Flash it and see!
Daeljan said:
Thank you very much for that answer!
hi Daeljan,
Just reiterating what people has said before
To be honest, I got the XDA because I need something to keep me organised time-wise, so I'm more interested in stability than eye-candy.
-- if this is what you need, then you definitely need to upgrade to latest WM5 (Helmi, Xplode - both are great). The sole idea of "persistent storage" itself is a must to upgrade. I am using IIs (Helmi's rom) and I actually found my BA is more stable than when I used 2003SE. I had this hard reset issue when I pressed the green button to receive phone call. It annoyed the hell out of me. It happened to me about 3 times... Now this problem is gone. Just imagine yourself is out of town for a business trip and suddenly our "stable 2003SE" hard reset by itself and the back up file is at home in your pc... what a bum huh? it happened to me.
I don't want to fall behind the times either, but I may hold out untill WM 5 matures a little more. What you said about hanging when you switch on is off-putting enough - I had heard similar things about WM5 related to connectivity, but I've never had the chance to hear about it first-hand.
-- This is a subjective comment from me, I think the current version of WM5 out here are good enuf. I dont think it will "mature" too much cause people WILL be busy playing with WM6. As far as I know, more and more developers make new softwares for WM5/6 and less make them for 2003.
Yes, WM5 still has some issues now, but I have not found 1 piece of software that is perfect. even 2003SE had issues. However, these are acceptable issues (for me anyway).
Just a happy user of WM5 and I would never go back to 2003SE (unless I want to sell my beloved BA, then i might have to flash it back to factory rom ).
If you want to wait, dont wait for WM5... wait for a more stable WM6.
Like other happy users, I still have hopes the geniuses from xda-dev would find a way to make WM6 work on BA... whatever solution that is...
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WM5 allows me to install apps to my storage cards - very useful! There is also the "device lock" feature which has saved me $$$ in phone bills from calls I didnt make.
Wondering if someone could assist me in finding a good rom that would fit my needs. I have been using a wm6 rom that was cooked about 5 months ago. Unfortantly it has started to do some wierd things. Lately my SD card hasnt worked. My headset only works when i listen to music and now sometimes i have to take out the battery to end a call. Im using this on the At&t ,formally cingular, network. I would like a rom that has the mms and media net already configured since i have had nothing but problems trying to get this to work when i have to do it manually. I have installed a vanilla wm6 rom and having some problems. Seems a little sluggish and also my mms is not working. I dont need anything fancy just something that is reliable. Im sorry for a noob post but im about to throw this phone into the pond and just suck it up and get a 8525.
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Wondering if someone could assist me in finding a good rom that would fit my needs. I have been using a wm6 rom that was cooked about 5 months ago. Unfortantly it has started to do some wierd things. Lately my SD card hasnt worked. My headset only works when i listen to music and now sometimes i have to take out the battery to end a call. Im using this on the At&t ,formally cingular, network. I would like a rom that has the mms and media net already configured since i have had nothing but problems trying to get this to work when i have to do it manually. I have installed a vanilla wm6 rom and having some problems. Seems a little sluggish and also my mms is not working. I dont need anything fancy just something that is reliable. Im sorry for a noob post but im about to throw this phone into the pond and just suck it up and get a 8525.
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Take note that following comment expresses personal opinion and others may differ...
The best ROM i've tested so far is TNT5.0 which is made by its right. It's stable and SO, and i mean SO SO, fast that you don't need to overclock to have apps open immediately amongst other. I think he's now releasing new ROMs (1437 based) which must be an improvement.
But the best you can do is go to WM6 section and get amazed with the amount of good ROMs being released there.
cheers
mestrini said:
Take note that following comment expresses personal opinion and others may differ...
The best ROM i've tested so far is TNT5.0 which is made by its right. It's stable and SO, and i mean SO SO, fast that you don't need to overclock to have apps open immediately amongst other. I think he's now releasing new ROMs (1437 based) which must be an improvement.
But the best you can do is go to WM6 section and get amazed with the amount of good ROMs being released there.
cheers
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mestrini is absolutely right man,if ur not satisfied with ur device performance than upgrade to latest cooked roms. I must say the are all charmers.Specially TNT5.0 and now its right has launched yet another latest thriller and a gem of a Rom TNT Professional + HTC Home ver 1437.
Just flash it and u'll never regrette again,
Follow the link below:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332544
well after my little whinning session lastnight, i found a wm5 rom that looks just like wm6. Install went fine so far. I think most of my problems with this phone is the hardware is slowing going out. my headphones still dont work for making calls but work fine with the media player. Makes no since but ok whatever. Also the SD port has always been tricky for me. But so far this rom rocks. Seems to be all the nice screens of wm6 just with a wm5 base. Also the best part was the network wizard. Man that util is a life saver. Did all my media net and mms configs for me. Works like a charm. Did some customizing and so far its working good. Im going to be actually taking apart the phone in the next couple days to see if there is something that can be done about the headphones thing. I might just have to suck it up and get a BT headset. Anyways thanks for the input. I have downloaded tnt5 just in case this rom doesnt fit my needs.
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well after my little whinning session lastnight, i found a wm5 rom that looks just like wm6. Install went fine so far. I think most of my problems with this phone is the hardware is slowing going out. my headphones still dont work for making calls but work fine with the media player. Makes no since but ok whatever. Also the SD port has always been tricky for me. But so far this rom rocks. Seems to be all the nice screens of wm6 just with a wm5 base. Also the best part was the network wizard. Man that util is a life saver. Did all my media net and mms configs for me. Works like a charm. Did some customizing and so far its working good. Im going to be actually taking apart the phone in the next couple days to see if there is something that can be done about the headphones thing. I might just have to suck it up and get a BT headset. Anyways thanks for the input. I have downloaded tnt5 just in case this rom doesnt fit my needs.
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Glade to hear that,atleast ur now over with ur whinning and satisfied with the new upgrade.Nice
go for the TNT5.0,u'll be amazed with it's performance,btw, 'its right' the coker of TNT5.0 has yet launched another marvelous Rom 'Professional HTC Home',I'll suggest try that out,too
But if prefer plain vanilla rom without much fancy stuff,try new vanilla rom by Antc,its based on the latest rom base:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333242
cheers
Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
ROM : 1.37.110.3 WWE
Radio: 1.00.25.03
Prot: 52.26a.25.09U
Id love to get after this stock before flashing with anything else so I can put it back if I need to!
So heres what Ive done so far and whats not great.
Added the manilla black .cabs (why did they boof it all by doing it in pink in the first place!)
Added the missed calls touchflo tab.
A few reg hacks as from this forum - not all.
So far:
- Struggles to connect back up (browser) to 3G after using my wireless connection.
- Sometimes loses the connectio to the network completey and cant reconnect with t-mobile without power down/up
- Start bar dissapears sometimes and needs power down/power up to get it back.
- touch flow is slow sometimes....annoying slow.
- dont get my favourites added to the browser touch flo menu?
Im still getting my head around WM6.1...so other annoyances:
- When I click on a test message in touch flo it goes straight into reply and also with threading....Ive seen the reg edit to diable threading but can you force it to just open the sms from the touch flow screen or does it have to drop straight into reply.
Ive been reading around here for a few days and although I didnt want to flash the beast yet....Im kind of fed up enough to either flash it or send it back. I like some aspects of it...the soft qwerty is ok but leaves you with little room to see anything else and its defo slower that normal keypad.
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.
neilsupermac999 said:
Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.
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I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )
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I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )
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Did you manage to get hold of the stock ROM so if it doesnt look good then you can return it back to how it was?
I assume swiftblades rom has the manilla black and all the original HTC diamond touchflo features like youtube and the web browser debranding (i.e. loading opera without all the t-mobile favourite rubbish). Does it also have the favourites from the browser on the t-phone internet tab?
I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask
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I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask
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Thanks for the info :O) I was actually thinking about getting hold of the current stock rom 1.37.110.3 WWE to revert back if I have some probs. Ive seen today that someone has posted a link and orange have released 1.93.x.x from HTC. Im a bit nervous about flashing but Ive looked at a lot of the guides and read them over...do you just have to flash the rom and radio?
..thenm after hard reset you get a pucker manilla phone minus all you own apps/settings/messages etc.?
yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!
Addicteddddd said:
yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!
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Im guessing you dont have a copy of t-mobile stock rom? Im just thinking that should this phone break at some point then without the stock rom then the warranty is probably invalid.....funny because I can find every other stock apart from the t-mobile one Ive got....
I didn't have a copy of the stock ROM, I just went for it. Someone else on the forum reckoned the first thing that happened when it gets sent back is the flash the latest ROM anyway.... it was good enough for me!
The HardSPL means you are unlikely to brick the phone though a dodgy ROM install, so if that goes on OK, you're laughing
I didn't have a copy of the rom at the time, however there are copies at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406327
This is my backup just incase it needs to go back
So...T-Mobile reckon they have a ROM update that will be released 'within the next 2 weeks' according to the support guy I spoke to last night....probably be a 1.93.x.x variant I suppose.
Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!
captainsensible2002 said:
Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!
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Yep. However orange have just released 1.93.x.x and from the discussion I had they have a lot of unhappy cmpct4 owners and its a flagship handset for them.
They could do them selves a favour and de-brand for us and save themselves some time as well. Id love to know what the guys that decided to do a white and pink TF3D are getting paid to come up with that idea...muppets.
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....
Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.
still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha
Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...
Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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