Ignito question - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I've been put off considering getting a diamond because of tthe awful appearance of the back (what were they thinking?)
Just spotted the ignito on the XDA site which looks a lot better.
Is the spec exactly the same as the diamond??

should be. but then, i would prefer the Victor

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Curious! XDA Ignito Removed from o2 Web Site

Just wondering if anyone had noticed or knew why the XDA Ignito doesn't seem to be on the web site anymore.
Not Important just curious!
Edit: Noticed its on the Business section but It was on the Home section too last time I looked.
Wierd!!
I've just noticed this also. Maybe there are complaints about the ROM or something?
more likely they are
1/ clearing the decks for a new range of phones (including ignito) leading up to xmas, which will all be marketed together
or
2/ have no stock
or
3/ are trying to shift more iphones
I'm on the O2 ROM and there are no issues with it
I don't know maybe! My partner has one and they come with the 1.93 ROM which I also use on my Diamond and it seems pretty good to me. In fact hers works better in a way because her MMS works properly! mine doesn't as yet!
I must type Faster!! LOL
Having thought about it some more, I think it could well be to do with the iphone and also that they are maybe trying to sell the old xda stock (orbit 2's).
Ive just upgraded our work phones, got a few ignitos. I was amazed as they would have preferred me to have iphones they are obviously wanting to shift them. I left one handset not upgraded in the hope o2 pick up the new touch HD but i think it wil be too much of a competitor to the iphone.
Can always hope. There making way for the HTC Touch Pro
But yeah i just discoverd this too, certainly curious. And a little irritating
It's back on the O2 website now. Just thought I'd let people on here know.

voda v o2 v tmobile

I've done a few searches and I don't think this question(s) has been asked before, but if it has just point me in the right direction.
Firstly, i'm looking at getting a diamond on one of the mention networks (orange is out as i'm swapping from orange and they couldn't offer me a decent upgrade package).
So... What i'd like to know is what are the differences in each of the different networks versions of the diamond in software terms (ie I looked at the tmobile mda and noticed that opera and youtube apps were missing). Is it the same on the others? With just the simfree htc diamond coming with opera and youtube installed.
Also, is it possible to reflash all of the handsets back to plain old htc? or are there only particular ones to go for. If so it would then just come down to which network can offer the best tariff (plus i think the mda looks the nicest).
I've also seen someone posting a 'sprint' theme which i think looks even better than htcs original, if i flash back to the original is the sprint theme an add on or does it replace the htc artwork, i'd rather have it replace than add as I don't want to fill the handset with crud.
Regards
veearrsix
Hi,
I can only give my views on T-Mobile (i have had MDAs for the last 4 years)
The last phone i got was the HTC Kaiser (or t-mobiles version), which sadly got stolen insurance paid out, and i got a HTC Diamond (original SIM free). i must say thats its nice not having all the T-Mobile branding and crap everywhere.
You could just go for a T-Mobile phone and flash a original HTC ROM if you wanted to have a 'original' feel to it. this would require Hard-SPL and voiding your warrenty (unless u put it back and they dont notice )
I personally would go for the O2 option, as they are known for not changing the phone much from original, and sometimes the handsets arent even network locked!
As far as the Sprint theme goes, it depends on if it is just a theme, or a ROM cooked to look like the Sprint. i had a "Sprint Flavour" ROM, which was just the sprint themes, no original HTC stuff. If you decide you want just the theme, then you will have HTC and Sprint on your phone, unless you get clever and find all the files to remove the HTC stuff.
Hope this helps,
I have the diamond on vodafone... I had Opera and youtube apps as part of the phone ... plus you get satnav software... freeish to use for 18 months.. (just have to download a small bit of data to get started).
Upgrade the rom to vodafones 1.93 and things are a lot better...
o2 comes with Opera, the youtube thingy and TT7 pre-installed. Also with a blueish Manila/TouchFLo theme. A 1.93 ROM (Which speeds up the whole thing by a good amount) is available through their website.
Cheers for the info so far, looking like an o2 or voda version at the mo.
The TT7 on the o2 ignito, is it a trial or the full version?
TT software is free, you have to pay for the maps.
Usually you get to download a small area map (of your choice). Usually just a town or two.
obviously, if you feel like breaking the law you can just download the UK maps from a warez site. NOT HERE!
veearrsix said:
Cheers for the info so far, looking like an o2 or voda version at the mo.
The TT7 on the o2 ignito, is it a trial or the full version?
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I have a UK Ignito, it doesn't come with TT, it *is* unlocked (as are all O2 pay monthly handsets AFAIK), and IMO the O2 back is much nicer than the HTC/Vodafone diamond back as it's flat and sort of a matte finish. It also has the full design memory complement
The camera seems to be better than some versions as well, maybe because the back cover window is flat or better quality.
I had the choice of all networks and picked the Ignito as the best, the only thing it doesn't have is QuickGPS (as it is supposedly not necessary, I can't find a version that works on the Ignito so I can't tell whether it makes a useful difference).
I got a good deal from O2 by being persistent (including unlimited data ) so if you go that route let them know that you're considering ALL the alternatives
HTH
Kim
cozzykim said:
IMO the O2 back is much nicer than the HTC/Vodafone diamond back as it's flat and sort of a matte finish.
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Same as T-Mobile back cover?
It looks like the ignito has been dropped from the o2 website. There is no product page for it anymore, I doubt the product page would disappear if they had no stock.
Weird??!!??
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/O2/Xda Ignito
hmm...
mugglesquop said:
Same as T-Mobile back cover?
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Yes it looks like it's the same, but isn't the T-Mob one memory crippled ?
It looks like the ignito has been dropped from the o2 website. There is no product page for it anymore, I doubt the product page would disappear if they had no stock.
Weird??!!??
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Yeah, I noticed it doesn't come up on the shop pages - still there on the XDA microsite though, and I bet they'll find you one if it means getting the money
cozzykim said:
Yes it looks like it's the same, but isn't the T-Mob one memory crippled ?
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ay?
from T-Mobile bloatware, so just generally?!
mugglesquop said:
ay?
from T-Mobile bloatware, so just generally?!
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From gsmarena MDA Compact IV review "The system RAM however has shrunk to 128MB as opposed to 192MB in the HTC Touch Diamond."
The rounded off MDA casing is the nicest IMO though.
cozzykim said:
From gsmarena MDA Compact IV review "The system RAM however has shrunk to 128MB as opposed to 192MB in the HTC Touch Diamond."
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ah rite, T-Mobile Bloat-ware for you they had to take some of the RAM to increase the phones memory after filling it with crap!
cozzykim said:
The rounded off MDA casing is the nicest IMO though.
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agreed +1
But and Also
I prefer GSM900 over 1800, my GF has T-Mob and she frequently (bad area) has no signal where I have no probs on O2
But now I'm jus' gettin' picky
yeh, T-Mobile generally suck on signal, think they may have just taken down a transmitter in my area, my whole family is with T-Mobile, and we all now have ****e signal lol
cozzykim said:
I have a UK Ignito, it doesn't come with TT, it *is* unlocked (as are all O2 pay monthly handsets AFAIK), and IMO the O2 back is much nicer than the HTC/Vodafone diamond back as it's flat and sort of a matte finish. It also has the full design memory complement
The camera seems to be better than some versions as well, maybe because the back cover window is flat or better quality.
I had the choice of all networks and picked the Ignito as the best, the only thing it doesn't have is QuickGPS (as it is supposedly not necessary, I can't find a version that works on the Ignito so I can't tell whether it makes a useful difference).
I got a good deal from O2 by being persistent (including unlimited data ) so if you go that route let them know that you're considering ALL the alternatives
HTH
Kim
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ditto
No - the O2 'Ignito' (UK) does NOT come with TT
It IS unlocked
...and agreed, the flat back is MUCH better than the faceted diamond, and better feel
I got a good deal going through retentions - which you might try with your current network - retentions always offer the best deals
Also - maybe hold out for the Raphael/Pro?
I also considered a TP/Raphael from Voda but decided that thinner/lighter is better.
I like the Ignito more than I expected although it has its foibles (don't they always?).
Get used to the Qualcomm GPS not being as good as the SirfIII in my Artemis/Orbit though it is *just* tolerable.
If your car has a metallised windscreen you could be in trouble!!
(BTW I'm a hardware engineer and I'm pretty sure it's the GPS antenna that's the problem)
i havent had any problems with GPS... if anything its better than my Kaiser and Artemis!
Thanks for all the info, i've gone with vodafone 18months, £30/mth, 150mins, 500txts, unlimited data(think its capped to 500mb) - (i tried orange retentions and they weren't interested!).
I'll wait n see what stuff is bundled on it, then probably wipe it all off with a new rom and sprint theme =0)

Replacement for XDAIIi

I've enjoyed the XDAIIi but it's getting too long in the tooth now.
Can anyone suggest a modern replacement unlocked PDA available in the UK for use with an existing O2 SIM?
I like the 3.5" screen, the app multitasking and the stylus rather than a purely touch screen...
Doubling as a GPS navigator would be great too.
Something like the iPhone would be fun but it strikes me as too fiddly to do the amount of typing and word processing I like to do.
Thanks for any suggestions...
M
Anyone got the URL of a helpful XDA forum?
Coucou !
What about a HTC Touch Pro2 ??? Also called Rhodium here and there?
Screen 3,6", aGPS included...
For me, one of the best nowadays!
OK thanks.
One additional factor is that I get a corporate discount on the iPhone, so £200 cheaper than the HTC...
I've ordered one but am still not sure I've made the right choice.
Mus said:
OK thanks.
One additional factor is that I get a corporate discount on the iPhone, so £200 cheaper than the HTC...
I've ordered one but am still not sure I've made the right choice.
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Hey Mus , I am desparate to get an iPhone but simply can't afford one at the moment.
I have a Nokia N95 8Gb to either sell to someone/ some company or sort out a part ex deal.
I reckon I can sell my Nokia ( an amazing phone , incidently but not as nifty as an iPhone) for about £100 .
If you don't like your iPhone , please contact me
PS You couldn't order another one through your company ( FOR ME ) Nudge Nudge Wink Wink !
Well, there are contractual obligations that I would think twice about for friends and family and wouldn't even consider on behalf of a stranger...
I sent the iPhone back until I can properly check the alternatives
BBBenj said:
What about a HTC Touch Pro2 ??? Also called Rhodium here and there? Screen 3,6", aGPS included... For me, one of the best nowadays!
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That does look good. Or I might be able to get a Touch HD 2.
The main thing I need to consider is how different is WinMo 6 from WM2003? Is being able to use a stylus and multitask worth forgoing the apps, surfing and multimedia whizzbang of the iPhone or has HTC caught up with that a little?
Unlike the iPhone it's hard to find a live device to play with in a shop.
Coucou!
I understand it's barely available in shop to "play" with...
But for all you're asking for, it's perfect. Not as smooth, sadly, as an iPhone, but much more improvable (correct word?), may be as efficient, and so pleasant to use with the Manilla interface.
Really, I won't change my Rhodium for an iPhone, even with money!
OK thanks.
How much of an improvement is WM 6 over 2003? Is it faster surfing, does it do flash streaming? Generally I switch graphics off on the XDA over GPRS.
M
OK, so it's much of a muchness with WM2003 then? No improvements?
Coucou!
Of course, there are lots of improvements, graphic interface, usage, memory, applications, .......... and ......... and .........
You can read everywhere what are the improvements.......
Yeah, just wish I could find a live one to try out for myself.
I went to an O2 shop and they didn't have one and say they have been selling less and less WinMo phones. They said they have stopped offering the XDA range and don't expect to stock the Touch HD 2 until January if at all.
Don't know if all that is true but I really dislike Apple for making every manufacturer think that a stylus is old hat. For typing the Apple is not a business phone, it's a consumer toy.
The Touch Pro 2 does look good , though I am reluctant to pay full price for it.
Tried out a live Hero yesterday - iPhone wannabe with less useful apps (for me)
Wonder what happened to that patent HTC took out on a capacitative stylus?
The 3g shop said they used to sell the Touch Pro 2 but nobody ever bought one so they stopped.
Also why aren't the prices of the Touch Pro 2 at rock bottom if there is no demand?

New (but not green) to this forum AND this phone!

Hello all! I look forward to filling my brain with info about how to trick my diamond out to the max. I'm not new to installing apps and roms. The phone I owned up until last week was the Siemens SX66 (aka HTC Blue Angel). Had it for 5 years. It met it's demise about a week ago by falling out of my pocket and falling from the 2nd floor balcony to the concrete ground on the 1st floor.....END OF PHONE. Decided to stay within the HTC series, as I think they are a great phone maker. I searched around for a mixture of budget vs. quality. Didn't care if I had the newest model of a phone, only that it was "smart" enough for how I like to play with them. I had done MANY rom flashes and app adds to my sx66, so I'm very familiar with doing that stuff. I searched on EBay for about a week and ran across a phone dealer that sells demo model phones for used prices. Sure enough, he was selling a touch diamond (1) floor demo model for $175.00. I snatched that puppy up QUICK. When it arrived, the phone condition was FLAWLESS. Not a scratch, not even a fingerprint was on it. Still had the original factory screen protector on the screen! Came in the original box with ALL accessories and documentation. He could have sold this phone as NEW and no one would have known the difference, except for the absence of shrink wrap on the box. Anyways, I look forward to tricking this phone out. It came with wm 6.1 installed. There's something called a HARDspl that I have to install before flashing it? Gotta learn about THAT first. Don't even know what that is. Also, just ordered a 2850mah extended life battery, included with a modified battery cover. That's TWICE the battery staying power of the (already extended) 1340mah battery that came with the phone. Got it for 13 BUX on EBay! I hit ALL the good deals for this phone. Anyways, please feel feel to hit me up with any advice, tips or suggestions you might have for me regarding the phone. I'd appreciate any advice I can get!
Hey Gastro,
Welcome to the world of Diamond modding. I've had a cdma diamond since launch and I still love it. It's getting close to its end of life so I might be moving on shortly but for now it's still my baby.
Like you mentioned, first thing you have to do is the hardspl, once you do that it opens it up to all the rom flashing that your hear desires. You'll have to try a few different ones out to see what you like. The diamond comes loaded with wm6.1 which I'm sure you'll soon upgrade to 6.5 or 6.5.x. I run a custom cooked 6.5.x. rom. You'll learn the differences between the different wm versions as well as the differnt versions of touchflo or the newer sense builds. Feel free to ask me any questions about flashing, modding, cooking roms whatever I'm pretty comfortable with all those things. Anyway good luck and I hope you love the phone as much as I do.
Major

phone signatures...

ok guys,
actually, this is not really off-topic following the line "Anything not related to the phones."
my story is, that i started with my father's mda III (back than, that was something fancy for me, switching from a lg black chocolate - yes, windows mobile 6.1, flashing included). later, I bought a touch pro 2 (as the mda III was really kind of slow and had no physical keyboard) and now am running a desire z (nice phone btw).
my idea was to sell the tp2, after buying the DZ, however that didn't seem to be such a good idea. the device is about one year old, in good shape and the original price was about 500€ (something around $550?) in the beginning of last year. now, ebay will yield around 200€ (~$240).
looking at the economical situation (sorry to go into such "depth"), i noticed, that many people around me are not that much well provided from their jobs (sorry - don't know how to say the words properly), though @ebay i won't find "good" prices for the tp2 (imho, the tp2 is till a good phone, though a drop of more than half the price is a really big one within one year). contrarily, looking at the signatures, many members show there history of owning devices, which is not that short, actually. so I am wondering, where the money goes... where's the issue on that one - many people having lesser money, though not selling their devices and yet letting the selling values drop...
what do you think? am I wrong about this one...?
There like computers...they drop there value fast due to the speed of newer/better devices always coming out.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
yeah , they really should just make One really good phone and never again after ... it would have plenty of software and not loose price !

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