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90% ram usage

first of all, excuse me for my bad english...
OK, to the problem !
when i have no programs running my diamond use up around 80-90% of ram..
what can i do about that? i've closed all the programs...

Which ROM are you running? We can't help if we don't know that.

i got 1.93 wwe rom, running tf3d and have 70%. If not running tf3d - 60%.

fredrikth said:
first of all, excuse me for my bad english...
OK, to the problem !
when i have no programs running my diamond use up around 80-90% of ram..
what can i do about that? i've closed all the programs...
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try to reset your device and ceck the used ram at startup...

ROM: 1,97,413,3 SVE
I have reseted, and it's still 80-90% :S

fredrikth said:
ROM: 1,97,413,3 SVE
I have reseted, and it's still 80-90% :S
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Install a task manager like dotfred's and check for running processes to see what is causing this behaviour.

and i thought my 44% was bad

Guys, what modifications do you suggest to lower the % of RAM? My Diamond has 1.37.401.3 WWE Rom version, apart of upgrading the Rom, is there any other solution? Thanks in advance...

i have samo rom how much ram usage you have?
i have 70%

Just so you know, you can save 10mb of memory by turning off the phone skin, i personally prefer it turned off and its by far worth the memory savings.
I used advance config to turn it off but im sure most of the tweak programs will have the option built within them.

thx i will try but i need to update rom. i need to backup this rom but how??
and when i update rom will i lose my igo8??

Currently 64% (after soft reset), but sometimes close to 80%, even if all apps are closed...some hints on managing or lowering the % of Ram would be very useful...with Fdcsoft task manager one can see, that the largest process running is cprog.exe (9464kb), device.exe (3832kb) and gwes.exe (3589kb), others are particulary smaller...guys, is there any other way to shrink the %?
Edit: will try that phone skin option...thanks

Im using the SWIFTBL 5.0 rom, my memory as we speak is 48%
Ive applied quite a few reg tweaks though

Guess i will have to do the rom upgrade in the near future...
With disposable config apps, and phone skin off, i managed to lower the RAM to approx 55%...starting to like it now

I use Memmaid and SKtools to free up Ram if needed.....try it

Keeping things well under 60% now...thanks guys

Wifi wastes so many resources

My phone usually runs at 70% memory usage and when I turn the Wifi on it jumps to 85-90%, half the time when I'm using Opera with the Wifi it shuts down because it says too much stuff is open. I'm using the Swift WWE 7 ROM. Anyone know what's wrong?

buuuuuuump

70%!!!
mine usually runs at 50% ish
i'd have a look at what u have installed/running

mugglesquop said:
70%!!!
mine usually runs at 50% ish
i'd have a look at what u have installed/running
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When I look in the task manager there's nothing running

Does everyone else's run at 70% too or am I the only one??

Mine (standard UK "minimal" Orange ROM) with Contacts/Activesync/Pocket Informant/Outlook running shows 72%, which stays at 72% when I connect Wi-Fi.
IE adds 1%, Opera adds 3%.

allenf said:
Mine (standard UK "minimal" Orange ROM) with Contacts/Activesync/Pocket Informant/Outlook running shows 72%, which stays at 72% when I connect Wi-Fi.
IE adds 1%, Opera adds 3%.
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That's weird I'd think WiFi would use at least SOME resources

I'm using swtos ROM and I'm running 50'ish normally. Before the ROM switch my phone used to run at 60ish sometimes, even 70 something - it would simply choke at those percentages - specially when I was surfing the net. Multi-tasking was nearly impossible. Thanks HTC.
It was almost not usable when wifi was turned on. Now I can surf and multitask easily with the new ROM.
I just switched Wifi on now and I'm running at 59%.

Vector-SS said:
I'm using swtos ROM and I'm running 50'ish normally. Before the ROM switch my phone used to run at 60ish sometimes, even 70 something - it would simply choke at those percentages - specially when I was surfing the net. Multi-tasking was nearly impossible. Thanks HTC.
It was almost not usable when wifi was turned on. Now I can surf and multitask easily with the new ROM.
I just switched Wifi on now and I'm running at 59%.
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Can you link me to that ROM, I might try it out. I'm using Swift which I thought was supposed to be one of the "best" but apparently not, unless I did something else that's messing it up

rpimps said:
That's weird I'd think WiFi would use at least SOME resources
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I've just reproduced those results - Wi-Fi isn't using any extra resources here.

I was running at 79% with ActiveSync, Album, Contacts, SMS/MMS, Notes, Tasks and Calendar
I had also previously opened up the Programs and System tabs (which even after closing bumps up the %).
When turning on the Wifi it only added 1%.
Might be worth switching ROM ?

Don't think it's the ROM. I am running SwiftBL 7.0 as well and turning on Wifi makes very little difference to resources

What pagepool settings are you using? Swiftblades ROMs come in 16mb and 0 mb (=dynamic) pagepool flavors. A higher mem usage is normal with these pagepools and unless your device actually feels slow it's nothing to worry about.
I'm using Duttys 2.8 CVSD presently. After 2 days without softreset it's at 72%, with internet sharing on. Device still feels snappy.
Whan using Wifi, do you also use Opera? It can be a memory hog sometimes. Since there are so many different builds, I'd look into if another build has better memory management.

Its not just ROM problem. my Raphael was having some troubles like that to.
( i sold mine, i dislike this device).
Seems, WIFI hard conf have a lot of QOS and package filters loaded ( look at driver rgu).
Some programs you use with streams, do the device almost unusable.
I get out almost all package filters from wifi and this stopped ( well, almost).
Just sharing acknowledgement, besides i dont have any more the device.

Here are some ROMS from Swtos. I used the second ROM in that list. As for Wifi and resources, I actually realized that mine does not use anything- unlike what I said in the previous post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418312

losdrivare said:
What pagepool settings are you using? Swiftblades ROMs come in 16mb and 0 mb (=dynamic) pagepool flavors. A higher mem usage is normal with these pagepools and unless your device actually feels slow it's nothing to worry about.
I'm using Duttys 2.8 CVSD presently. After 2 days without softreset it's at 72%, with internet sharing on. Device still feels snappy.
Whan using Wifi, do you also use Opera? It can be a memory hog sometimes. Since there are so many different builds, I'd look into if another build has better memory management.
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I'm not sure what my pagepool settings are, how do I check? And yes I do use Opera.
Is there any software that can backup every single thing on your phone (settings / contacts / contact pictures / etc) so when you update ROMs you don't have to do everything over again?

How to measure mem usage
Hi,
How do I measure memory usage. When I add up the memory usage in task manager I get 40mb, but the htc website says the diamond has 192mb memory -- am i really only using this much?

jaymit said:
Hi,
How do I measure memory usage. When I add up the memory usage in task manager I get 40mb, but the htc website says the diamond has 192mb memory -- am i really only using this much?
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Just look at the %

SPB MS 3 on Diamond

hi
m using SPB MS 3 on my diamond (which has Dutty last ROM release)
however when i am using MS , the used RAM goes up from 42 % to 52 % , anybody have a similar situation with MS on their diamond ? is that huge increase normal ?
have already disabled things like animations & 3d acceleration
pls help...tq

That's not something to worry about. After you started and closed a couple of programs, and basically been running your diamond for a while, your RAM usage goes up, even when you don't have anything open. It shouldn't keep increasing though.
If it really bothers yuo try looking for CleanRam it'll be in the forum somewhere. It's a pretty cool tool.
But 52% RAM should be fineYou won't notice a difference in performance from 42%.

jz been wonderin if ppl hav been encounterin a similar scenario
not worried much bout the ram itself , but more the battery usage from the higher ram

Ram usage

Hey everyone.
I just got my 4x HD and i was wondering why i always have around 70% ram used on idle.
I checked in task manager and there was for around 200mb of services and apps running max, can't find where the other 400mb went.
Anyone knows if this is normal? How much ram does your phone use on average?

I agree with 700mb ram already used. But doesnt lag the phone though.

AW: Ram usage
its better when more ram is used. all the apps u used are stored in ram for quicker app start when run the app again. in other words: phone is faster when more ram is used. only if u hit the 1gb limit the phone would lag
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gordon0001 said:
its better when more ram is used. all the apps u used are stored in ram for quicker app start when run the app again. in other words: phone is faster when more ram is used. only if u hit the 1gb limit the phone would lag
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thats true, but i too have ram problem in my o4x,
it starts lagging and freezing after some time if memory is not cleared by any task manager. and at extreme it restarts the phone.
i haven't installed that much apps yet, i installed more apps in my HTC Explorer and that phone never did things like this but this phone has double ram and still doing strange things.
and i installed swapper to solve the problem but now i'm stuck on boot logo, any help appreciated.
and any help on my bricked phone is also appreciated at my post here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192894

still, my phone uses 800Megs of RAM and constant lag.

fyi every time someone complains that their Android phone is using a lot of RAM an angel loses its wings.

AlderCass said:
fyi every time someone complains that their Android phone is using a lot of RAM an angel loses its wings.
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but.. but.. but how will the games work smooth if there's only 100megs ram free?
I understand that system/UI works faster when everything is loaded in ram... but i don't like apps in background sucking my battery. I've seen this clearly in Battery Monitor. When ram is clear it uses about 25mW (on idle), with stuff in background it's closer to 100mW or more... I don't like my phone eating battery 4 times faster on idle that it should.

_MiseryMachine_ said:
but.. but.. but how will the games work smooth if there's only 100megs ram free?
I understand that system/UI works faster when everything is loaded in ram... but i don't like apps in background sucking my battery. I've seen this clearly in Battery Monitor. When ram is clear it uses about 25mW (on idle), with stuff in background it's closer to 100mW or more... I don't like my phone eating battery 4 times faster on idle that it should.
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Again, this isn't Windows, it's Android. Free RAM is wasted RAM. If it has only 100Mb free and you launch a heavy game, it'll promptly free the needed RAM by offloading the least used stuff it still has on RAM.
On the other hand, if you call that program you only use once a day, it's probably still in your RAM, and will open as if you've only just used it (well, almost).
The used RAM isn't necessarily active, so not all the apps stored there are sucking battery. Your test results are accurate, but your conclusions are fallacious: yes, there's less battery usage when the RAM is clearest, but, as they say, "you've thrown out the baby with the bathwater", i.e. when unloading ALL apps, you also unloaded the ones that were consuming battery. On the other hand, you've also thrown out stuff that were just kept in memory, but weren't active.
The other problem with your approach is that, after you unload ALL apps, the most troublesome ones will probably reload themselves back into RAM. So, even if right after freeing RAM you reduce your battery usage, a few minutes later it will be back to the same.
What you should do is get a program like BetterBateryStats and find out what's actually sucking your battery. When it does, you have a few alternatives:
- uninstall apps that are sucking your battery but you just don't need;
- greenify some of the apps that you do need, just not all the time;
- freeze some apps (with Titanium Backup) that you don't use but can't uninstall.

i tend to disagree with people saying free ram is wasted ram and preloading apps in ram is good and that for this simple reason.
everytime you start a app that is not preloaded (it can only preload so many apps) it has to use cpu time to unload it then load the next app resulting in extra cpu usage = less battery time.
many people complain about battery life except me.
and i really manage my phones resources all day long and have nsane results noone else seems to get.
i have over 5 hours 30 min screen on time (me browsing watching youtube using whatsapp and so on.) and have over 630 mb ram free.
my total stanby time on lght use is 5 days with 2 hours 30 min screen on time.
i would send screenshots as proof but for some reason the lg 4x hd bluetooth wont install on windows 7 x64.
but really since i starte to actively manage my phone the battery lasts longer and i never had a stutter or anything.
and as a sidenote my phone is stil unrooted and stock v10h so with root i could prevent even mre from starting up and have even more free ram and better results.
and yes the poster above me is right some apps will reload themselves so IF you use a task killed prevent it from killing tasks that start themselves up again.
like google partner setup , media and more google stuff.

hutjeflut said:
i tend to disagree with people saying free ram is wasted ram and preloading apps in ram is good and that for this simple reason.
everytime you start a app that is not preloaded (it can only preload so many apps) it has to use cpu time to unload it then load the next app resulting in extra cpu usage = less battery time.
many people complain about battery life except me.
and i really manage my phones resources all day long and have nsane results noone else seems to get.
i have over 5 hours 30 min screen on time (me browsing watching youtube using whatsapp and so on.) and have over 630 mb ram free.
my total stanby time on lght use is 5 days with 2 hours 30 min screen on time.
i would send screenshots as proof but for some reason the lg 4x hd bluetooth wont install on windows 7 x64.
but really since i starte to actively manage my phone the battery lasts longer and i never had a stutter or anything.
and as a sidenote my phone is stil unrooted and stock v10h so with root i could prevent even mre from starting up and have even more free ram and better results.
and yes the poster above me is right some apps will reload themselves so IF you use a task killed prevent it from killing tasks that start themselves up again.
like google partner setup , media and more google stuff.
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I had that problem when I installed the first leaked V20A, now with the official V20A EUR_XXX bluetooth is working fine, faster tranfears than with ICS.

help
I have problems, too. My o4x is working about 2.5 years but im very angry because of the ram usage problem. The ram is always %70-80. And the phone is very very very... slow. If the cpu is works %80, what can i do ? The battery is finishing very early. I dont wanna new phone. Im not rich. I dont want to buy a new iPhone. Everyone say "The iPhone (ios) is the best. Android is the worst. Bla bla bla.. " And I believe this... PLEASE HELP ME (( :crying:

[Q] Help with huge battery drain on usage [TRIED EVERYTHING]

Hello guys, sorry for my bad english, but I'm not American. Well, my question is:
I bought from a guy a Galaxy S I900b, Brazilian model with digital TV. Came with stock 2.3. As I had already read enough before, upgraded to JWB Saurom with semaphore kernel, which I think is the default for this rom. Well, the phone had very poor battery life, evn on idle. Then upgraded to 10.2 CM. I saw that had some wakelocks, and with BBS and the help here, I used the Scan Media Root and my problems are gone in iddle. So, my phone goes into deep sleep and today during my sleep, only lost 3% battery, 3% battery drain on idle during about 5-6 hours it very good to me. But during use, it ends up very fast, and with GSAM and standard monitor of the android, I saw that after the screen, the Android system was what had higher %% battery. So what could it be ? The battery life is ok, checked on info, and its condition is 'good'. I use to Greenify, and close almost every game\app, so running is just grenify and ram manager pro.
So the prob just could be a app or the 'android system' ? Or even hardware ?
I dont have much time now, so any info or screenshot you want, I can provide later
Thanks

What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?

calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
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Dandry said:
What about your connections? Do you have 3G/wifi enabled at all times?
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So buddy I've disabled 3G, just 2G, I barely make a call, just wifi. But dont matter what, if is just passing by the menus or using opera mini, using it drain battery a lot,
compacity said:
calibrate....maybe useless, but u can try....but somehow, try bigger mAh battery, maybe.....n maybe .... it will help.
juz charge it with screen turn on till it full, n waste it to 0% till it shut down, turn it on n charge it with screen on till it full again, u ll be fine
if problem occur again, keep an eye for sneaky app that run at background (email...exchange etc) n juz delete some sys app that u dont use using titanium.
if it still occur again, wait for arc reactor battery....
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I've deleted the batterystats.bin and used until 0%, so charged while off, but nothing :C
It's true that the battery needs to 'learn' ? Like, a few charges and discharges and could estabilize ?
I'll take a few screenshots right now

Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal

Here some screenshots, if need more, just ask
Note: Was with 14%batt, rebooted and drops to 11-10%
mrjraider said:
Callibration of you battery eg: Wipe battery stats is onluy helpfull when you get weird battery stats.
If you are on any CyanogenMod ROM you have to get used to the higher ammount of battery use by the phone. The application Greenify can help a lot by hibernating the huge battery suckers like facebook and google maps.
Some tips:
- use 2G instead of 3G
- Turn WIFI off when you're outside the house or leaving for some time
- Turn GPS/Bluetooth on only when you're about to use it
- Dont use taskkillers (they are used to free up ram but killing apps makes android restarts them and this consumes extra juice)
- Put brightness on Auto
- Use a dark theme and background/lockscreenwallpaper
- Dont recharge your phone when below 5% this can damage the battery
- A new battery needs to "Get used to" the life of being a battery xD After a few recharging cycles it will work like normal
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i am using greenify on almost everything.
used to use ram manager, but now i've disable it.
brightness is on low
I really dunno what 2 do ... almost 1 week with it and this insane drain, everyone says that plays or browser on wifi and get almost 10 hours... my dream this happen to me lol
Remember that this is just on use, on idle it use virtually nothing, like I said, almost 3% on sleep, but is just I start use with app or browser and its gone

Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher

Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:

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Screens are from a too short period of useage. Use it from fully charged, and make some new screenies This can help futher
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ok buddy, will charge and use a little
LyQQ said:
Well i got problems with my battery too so im planning to buy a new one because this one cant even handle 3-4 hours when im doing something like playing games,or listening music...Just buy new battery with more mAh and dont get bother with this :laugh:
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but in aps, show good battery state :/
think that I cant trust in it ... and will have to buy a new one

if calibrate doesnt work, hardware faulty, change ur battery mate.
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About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:

solidedgard said:
About 2 hours later that I fully charged, here are some ss
Just used whatsapp and opera in this time
I was thinking in change my kernel, currently I'm using semaphore 3.0 with CM10.2, is Latrop or Mackay better in battery life ?
I think its my last shot ... I'll provide a new battery next week, but i've heard some people with batt probs that even with new batt the problem persists :crying:
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It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
Sent from my GT-P7510

Soryuu said:
It looks like wifi and 3G have been kept on for most/all of the time. Turning those off while you're not using them may significantly increase battery life.
Also, related to kernels, personally I've found Mackay to be a bit better in terms of battery.
Also it looks like your screen's pretty bright if 61% of the battery usage is because of it. So if you don't need it so bright turning the brightness down may help.
Start by doing those, and see how your battery life fares first- if not much changes, then it may help getting a bettery battery/changing rom even.
Sent from my GT-P7510
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So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?

solidedgard said:
So, like i said, in this 2 hours after charge, i've used opera mini with wifi, I dont use 3g. Right now the battery is less than 10%... it's strange since have people telling that can use almost 5 hours wifi and the battery is > 50%
And the brightness is at lowest bright :\
The problem could be some corrupted file ? I have the options:
- format EVERYTHING, and dont use titanium backup, since somthing can be corrupted.
- change my kernel to Mackay
- change my room back to SAUROM 2.3.6 adn semaphore kernel
I'm very sad cuz I have a very old Nokia E5 that can be on with wifi almost or more than 10hours ... and this phone can barely hold 5hour
What u suggest me to do ?
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How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
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Soryuu said:
How long have you been using the rom? Roms take time to calibrate the battery and this is through charge/discharge cycles.
Alternatively, go into Performance settings and change the profile to powersave/conservative (it differs from rom to rom). Lock the min CPU frequency to 200mHz- apparently this helps.
Again, this would change depending on your kernel.
And if you have a three year old battery like mine, best not to expect miracles...
Sent from my GT-P7510
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Using bout 2 days ... but i didnt knew about ' calibrate '. Good to know that
Now i've formated everything and will put a stock 2.3 and see in a couple of days the perfomance ... if gets better, I put the saurom 2.3.6 and be with it, cuz 2.3.6 on brazilian model allow to use digital tv, and 2.3 everyone says is economic.
I'll get this updated if my situation changes, if not, will buy a new battery
Thanks for all your help
Note: How long your batt last ? With high\low usage