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Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
couple things to make sure before returning your phone. When using HTC GPS tool, go into the satelite section and see if you at least picking up 1 satelite. Verify you are not inside a building and you are outside and you are giving it some time. Flash another rom and do these procedures again. If none of these work, then probably could be the phone. Good luck.
jfgarciamex said:
Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
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You need to be outside to get a satellite fix. It is almost impossible to get a satellite fix indoors. You also need QuickGPS (freeware) which updates the ephermeris info and lasts 6 days. This makes a satellite fix much quicker. Try that.
GPS antenna
The UART baud rate of the GPS port should be set on 57600. Probably the communication can be done at 4800 like the SIRF chinese module but try to put the correct baud rate and see if the handshake works more fast.
Since I use the phone mostly mobile in my car, I just got one antenna from this eBay seller.
This one have full 15 feet cable so I was able to clip on trunk cover, near the rear window. The antenna connector must be fully inserted in the phone enabling the path contact and at the first insertion you need to apply more force (as usual ).
The phone will sense the current flow by feeding the antenna LNA chip so there is no such thing of mechanical device to switch antennas (internal/external).
The sattelite signal almost double and sometimes up to 10 sats can easily be locked and fast.
GPS working again!!!!.... but how????
Guys,
I'm posting as just noticed something really weird, and to be honest I can not find why the GPS is working again. In my first post as I stated, the GPS was working fine (I have an unlocked tilt with HTC ROM). Then somehow, one day the GPS did not worked anymore (I used HTC GPS Tool, and as soon I opened the port, I did not got any messages at all, it just hang! and with GPS Test the GPS was never detected! - in both cases the GPS led flashed!). Now, after giving up with hard resets, going back to the original ROM, updating QuickGPS data, etc. just yesterday, when I on was meeting playing around went to GPS Test and voila GPS was detected again!!!!... and so far is working fine... I have no clue what fixed it! and, I'm wondering if it may had something to do with my carrier... any one has faced something similar?... any idea what happened?...
Can someone please help me?
I have tried these programs:
Tomtom 6
Tomtom 7
GPSdash
BeeLineGPS
WMMiniGPS
GPS tuner
Google maps
I'm using the latest TLR ROM. My GPS setting are default. Com4 Baud rate: 4800.
Here's the problem. The programs seem to find the receiver and seem to find the satellites. (10-15). But I can get absolutely no signal at all. Indoors or outdoors.
I'm getting quite desperate
Have you used any of the tweaks for GPS? I ask as I did but my signal kept dropping - so I turned the tweak off and now it is fine.
I would also suggest using the QuickGPS application to get the Satellite information quicker
I've tried disabling agps. Didn't help. And yes I have used QuickGPS... but no luck.
Any suggestions? : [
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Was it the first try? When I tried first it was 6-8 minutes. Where do you try? In the outdoor?
Have you ever used it?
TB
Do you have correct setting "GPS is managed automatically" ?
When I set to GPS is managed manually, I could not found any way to power on builtin GPS. You have to check box "GPS is managed automatically". I think, it may be point of your problem
I had the exact same issue dude... TomTom 6 didn't work so I installed TomTOm 7... still no signal... even with QuickGPS ran...
Google Maps didn't work either....
I'm not sure what I did in the end... took out the battery, set GPS to 'let windows manage automatically' and ran Quick GPS again.. then run TomTOm 7, go to the 'GPS Status' screen which shows the sat signal charts and stand in a wide open area for 5 mins.. ever since then it has worked fine
all the best.
btw you have to make sure your system date and time are accurate coz otherwise it'll be searching for Sats with a wrong reference to the Sat almanac..
Yes, it's set to manage automatically. I've been trying to get a signal by the window, I left the device just sitting there for more than a half hour and still nothing. I guess I'll have to try longer while being outdoors. Hope it helps... but thanks for your help.
I did that too and it didn't work for me. You have to be outside for the 1st time GPS fix and make sure you run QuickGPS before that. Ohh yeah use TomTom 7 to detect the signal... I find that the most reliable somehow... and be sure it's configured to use the built-in GPS receiver...
I know it feels odd... I nearly sent my unit back for warranty because I was very convinced that the patch antenna was somehow disconnected from the chip. lol.
I had the same issue at one point, due to my fiddling and inadequate hacking attempts!
see if you can track down the HTC GPS tool (it's here on XDA somewhere, but i can't find a link at the mo) and run that.
Chipset should be set to Q7200 (yes i know its actually a 7201A but it works the same) and com port to com 4.
Tap the open port button and you should see the GOS info scrolling through the grey window in the program.
If you see nothing, check the external GPS settings
program tab should be com 4
hardware tab should be non and 4800
last tab should be ticked.
if you still get no GPS info scrolling through the gps tool, then it seems you have the same problem i did. Sadly, i had to hard reset it to get it working again, but it has been perfect ever since.
FYI, this started happening once i had turned aGPS on, and even turning it off did not work for me, so if you have to hard reset, i wouldn't bother ever turning the aGPS on again.
where's the option to turn aGPS on/off?
I just remembered how I resolved my issue... I put a SIM card in I had previously been trying to use it with WiFi (to update QuickGPS) but once I had a SIM in there, the GPS worked. Could it be because I'm now using aGPS? hmm...
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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I also kept lossing the GPS signal with this on every few seconds. So I turned it off for good
did you maybe install voip on your diamond? If so that's your problem there. Hard reset you diamond don't install voip en there you go.
It worked! Thank you all.... I had to sit for half an hour in direct sunlight but it was well worth it... I'm new to gps... do you have to do this with every new gps receiver or is this just another great feature from HTC?
I'm, having the same probelm here.
I'm on my second diamond as the first one (a HK version) had a fault with the internal speeker. On the First phone the internal GPS worked fine with both TOMTOM 6 and Google maps. The initial setup only took about 30 secs.
With the new phone (UK spec) I have tried TT7, TT6 and Google maps. I have also run quiick GPS, hard reset and enabling and disabling assisted GPS using the advanced config tool.
Is there anything else I should try or is this likely to be another hardware issue?
Solution To Gps Problem
if you installed VOIP you should hard reset...gps dead...:-( no other solution.
Help! My Diamond GPS reception is MUCH worse than on my Touch Cruise
Hi,
I've just got a Touch Diamond, and the GPS reception is absolutely appalling. I have hard-reset twice, after which I've done nothing except download a QuickGPS update, but still the signal strength and its ability to connect to satellites is completely inconsistent and unreliable, even outdoors. I CAN get a good signal occasionally, but it's very rare. Most often I get no GPS signals whatsoever, or else I get just a couple of weak greyed-out signal bars in TomTom.
I can lay my Diamond down next to my Touch Cruise (both have identical TomTom 6 software loaded from the same CAB), and the Cruise always launches the app faster, finds the GPS device faster, AND finds adequate satellites faster. The Touch Cruise has a lot of problems, but the one thing it has always been very good at is GPS, and it has NEVER failed to find adequate satellites in TomTom 6, even indoors. It always takes well under a minute to do so, too. It's surely not unreasonable to expect at least the same level of performance from the next generation of device. Why should the Diamond's GPS performance be demonstrably so much worse?!!
Nine times out of ten, my Touch Diamond will simply sit there for an hour or more with the TomTom status bar reading 'Waiting for valid GPS signal...". Quite often when I open the GPS configuration option in TT6, it shows absolutely NO SHRED of a GPS signal whatsoever, even outdoors. (My Diamond and my Cruise have identical GPS settings in both Windows and TomTom, by the way).
The annoying thing is that the Diamond's GPS HAS worked on a couple of rare occasions, and the signal strength has been at least as good as on my Touch Cruise. The Diamond is much worse at holding the signal however, and is totally and utterly unreliable for navigation. It certainly isn't the 'Ultra-sensitive GPS' that HTC's marketing promised - it's nowhere near as good as the GPS on the Cruise, which is the previous generation! The Diamond's GPS DOES work well on very rare occasions - it's just that 95 times out of 100, I'm not getting anything at all. This makes me wonder if it isn't a WM 6.1 compatibility problem or a conflict of some kind. It's almost as if Windows is having difficulty activating/waking the GPS fully. When (and if) it finally gets going, reception is actually very good.
I have also downloaded the HTC GPS Tool as someone here suggested, and it reveals the same results as TomTom - I usually get either no satellites at all, or I get two or three red satellite status bars and a message saying 'Fix not available'. It ALWAYS shows a data stream coming from COM4 though, so there doesn't seem to be any problem actually finding the GPS device. On the rare occasions when I have got a usable GPS signal, the HTC Tool then shows two or three red status bars and three or four green ones as well. During those rare periods, Google Maps can also find anything from three to ten satellites, even indoors. However, the next few times I try the Diamond's GPS, nothing will happen at all - it's suddenly as if all the satellites have fallen out of the sky.
By the way, would QuickGPS make ANY difference on the Diamond? As other have pointed out, aGPS is disabled on the Diamond by default. Aren't QuickGPS and aGPS the same thing? I don't know. But if so, surely the QuickGPS data is useless on the Diamond?
Does anyone have ANY idea how to make GPS on the Diamond work as well as it does on the Touch Cruise? Does anyone know why it doesn't already? Has anyone else done a direct comparison between the Diamond and another HTC device using the same GPS software?
I really like the Diamond, but it's incredibly frustrating that the GPS is unreliable to the point of being unusable. At the moment, I'm having to carry the Cruise for GPS navigation and the Diamond for everything else! Certainly not what I paid for. It should do this stuff straight out of the box. Since it doesn't, I can only assume my device is faulty so if I can't get it fixed by the weekend, I'm returning it for a replacement.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. Sorry for such a long post, but I needed to vent.
Hi there, I'm having the same problem as RH Photography.
All the programs are trying to communicate, but no fix at all. Once I got a fix, but only 4 sattelites, when in my car GPS BT had fixed to 9!
Will try hard reset and install HTC GPS tool an try to fix
Hi all,
Could you please, be kind and post you experience with TD's GPS...
Since I got my TD(4 days) I have not been able to test the GPS at all
I have loaded some soft that could help me here. ( I travel a lot between Korea and Japan). Cannot really use the phone here, but WIFI works great and I thought I would give the GPS a test run.....no luck YET..
TD's own: QuickGPS has downloaded(through WIFI) all the info and it is up to date......But how do I set up the GPS itself???
Phone did not come with preloaded GPS software so,I have loaded following soft on itnone of them would recognize the gps)
i.e. " no GPS found."
1.Google Navigator 3.4
2.GPSvp (http://gpsvp.com)
3.Effica GPS Utilities (http://www.efficasoft.com/gpsutilities/index_wm_ppc.html)
I would really like to test out the GPS here first.I am returning to EU (home) in october or november and I would like to use it there as well.
sorry for the bump
I tried the search...not just this forum but all of XDA.....I cannot seem to find one successful step-by step activation as of yet???
Nobody has internal GPS running on their TD??
Anyone?
Runs perfect and is good quality.
Make sure you let windows manage gps (in external GPS settings):
programport COM4
hardwareport none
and in last tap check the checkbox.
Programs find gps at Com4 at 19xxx baud.
THX RIEL
thank You for you reply.
Will try tommorow morning.
Riel said:
Runs perfect and is good quality.
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Don't you have a problem with the static navigation? This behavior "drives"
me nearly crazy, because beside of that, the GPS in TD is superb...
On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
My GPS is a pain in the arse, From what i have read its because of the static navigation. So far it says i live in house number 20 when I live in house number 16 and when i'm on route I'm yet to hear a " You have arrived at your destination" because its accuracy is off about 50 metres.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this very soon.
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
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Hey, have you got installed TomTom 7? I'm running TT7 and when I select "internal GPS receiver" it connects perfect. I know this doesn't exist in TT6, but I can also get my GPS running in TT7 if I set it to use a BT receiver on COM4 at 57600 baud. (Assuming you didn't mess around with the standard GPS settings, like HTC meant them to be )
Google maps is using the selection of "use windows settings".
racerx_ said:
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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Check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039&highlight=static+navigation
and this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401833&highlight=static+navigation
hi guys
Same problem here. AGPS is disabled. I have tried Garmin,TomTom, iGo and google. 95% of the time it can not lock onto the sats. Once in a while it will work fine. Last night it picked up the sats in my bedroom on the second story and this morning outside in clear sky it found 4 sats but with very low signal and could not give me my cordinates, gave up after 15 min.
I have tried GPS tools and even that won't lock onto the sats. Data is upto date with quick gps.
So is it the hardware problem or has it to do something with radio? It can't be faulty TD because there are a lots of people with the same problem, and why lots of other users have no problems accessing the sats?
How is your gps working?
hi
great going sofar...thanks to all. We still have no real answers.
Let's keep this one going.
Looks like GPS is an issue with TD.
( Other than GPS...I am loving this sweet phone )
Now I am trying different roms to see if it is related to that. Will let you guys know if find anything.
Strange, on all ROMS my GPS reciever just works perfect.
Almost the best piece of hardware on the device
As I mentioned in Another topic, I use the GPS for TrackMe, at the same time I am navigation via Igo, and at the same time I showoff Google Maps with GPS support.
It functions very well!
Did you get the GPS-Fix downloads? It speeds up a lot.
Yes got the gps fix downloads but still no go. Still have not lost the hope. I hope its not some hardware problem.
I was fed up messing with mine, so I did a hard reset, and its sorted ...... for now!
same as Paulus
I did a hard reset....and it works perfect. No other adjustments done.
Tried the TomTom, Tracky Pro, GPS VP, and the HTC GPS Tool....all work no problem...outside I get a fix within a minute sometimes seconds.
I think one of the quirks that the TD's GPS has is that, when it's in Acquiring Satellites mode it doesn't seem to spit out any sort of status. The first time I noticed that I thought my internal GPS wasn't working, since with my external Holux unit I can see the satellites which the Holux was trying to lock onto.
Whereas with the TD's built in GPS it just snaps from nothing to.. acquired. So it's hard to see wheter it hasn't gotten a signal because it's in a poor area of reception or not. Usually I'll just try and stay still till I can get a lock.
HI There
Trying to find a program that displays GPS signal and connection on the Today screen, I've done a bit of searching like, and came back with [<b>GPSToday0.9.9.1</b>] but it seems to act erratically, when you switch it on it doesn't do anything, I used GPSTest to ensure I was recieving GPS, and I got 3D lock in under a minute, however GPS on GPSToday still claimed no lock, it eventually showed a couple of satellites in use but only a few minutes after actual lock, plus the mapping bit is only US enabled, which although a bonus is still a bummer. (im in the UK)
Then I found [<b>GPS Sentry</b>] which cost me a little to purchase, is supposed to be a good solution but again it doesn't seem to work with Kaiser/TytnII any other solutions?
In an Ideal world a little program like GPSToday is perfect, logs on every hour or so, grabs the GPS location of the phone and logs out. Compliments other GPS programs with NMEA data in a similar fashion as QuickGPS. But essentially needs to actually work.
Anyone know of anything else I can try?
Hi Sideburnt,
GPSToday should work perfectly on the Kaiser/tytnII. That is the "reference" device on which GPSToday was most tested. In fact GPSToday is also used as a "GPS primer" by many folks because it significantly speeds up GPS locking for other programs.
When started up for the very first time, it does a bunch of initial setup things like processing your address book contacts etc which can take up time.
After the first few locks, you will notice that it locks must faster, and any other GPS programs will also get a signal quickly.
Also, there are only two features that are US only: the street address display, and the weather display. Everything else like the geotagger, the geologger, the mapping of contacts on the map, the wake-up device for fix feature, the co-ordinate display, the maps, that is all available.
Also, you must make sure that your WM GPS port settings in StartMenu->Settings->ExternalGPS are correct.
We urge you to give it one more try.
Thanks.
Sideburnt said:
HI There
Trying to find a program that displays GPS signal and connection on the Today screen, I've done a bit of searching like, and came back with [<b>GPSToday0.9.9.1</b>] but it seems to act erratically, when you switch it on it doesn't do anything, I used GPSTest to ensure I was recieving GPS, and I got 3D lock in under a minute, however GPS on GPSToday still claimed no lock, it eventually showed a couple of satellites in use but only a few minutes after actual lock, plus the mapping bit is only US enabled, which although a bonus is still a bummer. (im in the UK)
Then I found [<b>GPS Sentry</b>] which cost me a little to purchase, is supposed to be a good solution but again it doesn't seem to work with Kaiser/TytnII any other solutions?
In an Ideal world a little program like GPSToday is perfect, logs on every hour or so, grabs the GPS location of the phone and logs out. Compliments other GPS programs with NMEA data in a similar fashion as QuickGPS. But essentially needs to actually work.
Anyone know of anything else I can try?
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You might also try baf GPSToggle very small footprint and works perfect on my tilt
I would like to use my Fuze for more precise GPS coordinates while Fishing.
Many GPS units on the market receive the WAAS signal for more accuracy in coordinates. Is it possible for someone to create software for our phones to receive this signal? Anything available? Ideas?
I sometimes pay to go with a pro while fishing and once used a large handheld GPS with WAAS enabled. I was able to go back to very specific spots and found my boat was longer than the error of the WAAS coordinates. If I could have this on my phone...lets just say it would be more beneficial.