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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.
Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!
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1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard
How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.
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So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
Maybe get a fuze that works properly? I really have no suggestions other than that.
The best phone to get would obviously be the Fuze. However, if you want some money, then i suggest you get an iPhone (16gb), sell it on eBay and then you'll have a lot cash to buy a new phone (and even have some left over).
Good to know iphoney is out of the question!
If looking for something not too expensive I would recommend Universal because it´s great keyboard and screen!
If $ is not a problem check Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2
Good luck,
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So, long story short, ATT screwed me over with my Fuze. I got a call from a VERY high up person from ATT, and they offered me any phone I want.
I had some problems with the Fuze: Lag, bad battery, touch screen issues, build quality issues... etc. I also hated how I always had to keep on looking for new radios, testing them, testing new ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love to customize my phone, but it was a little over the top and a little ridiculous.
I was thinking about getting the Bold. I love the screen, I love the keyboard, never used the trackball before, and never used the BB OS. How's battery life and performance on it? I'll be using it mostly for texting, calling, and some word documents.
The iPhone is out of the question.
Thanks for the help!
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Goes to show that WinMo is not for the weak, the noob, and the ones who don't have time. Get a Blackjack or something. that would suit you.
Btw, I think by any phone, the guy would've probably meant that any phone from at&t and I still find your story highly unlikely cause normal people do not get calls from anyone "VERY" high so to say even if you've been a customer of AT&T since it began. I highly doubt it. But sure, I suggest only 3 phones for you. BB Bold, BB Curve, Samsung BlackJack.
If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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If you like HTC & WM, then go for Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2.
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AT&T is not selling those phones yet.
and yeah, that story is unlikely, not saying you made it up, but the person was probably a tech support supervisor, or manager.
get the iphone. if the X1 is sold through AT&T(which i dont think it is) then get that, other then that, if you dont like to customize your phone, dont get a HTC, get a LG incite or something of that nature.
the person who called me was the Vice-President of Customer Support, I found her email adress on AT&T's website and sent her an email. Got a call 3 days later I can post the link if you guys don't believe me
I do like tinkering with my phone, but only to an extent. I need a long battery for everyday trips, and I need a phone with great signal strength.
I have been with AT&T for 8 years, landline and cellular service. And my Dad's side of the line holds the entire companies phone systems, and theres around 1500 phones. AT&T would not want to lose business
Alright, so a little update, and this was great.....
I get....
A brand new Blackberry Bold
I get to keep my Fuze
And I get 200 dollars in credit
Sell the blackberry,
get a new Fuze thats not defective
Send me the credit for my bills!
I've enjoyed the XDAIIi but it's getting too long in the tooth now.
Can anyone suggest a modern replacement unlocked PDA available in the UK for use with an existing O2 SIM?
I like the 3.5" screen, the app multitasking and the stylus rather than a purely touch screen...
Doubling as a GPS navigator would be great too.
Something like the iPhone would be fun but it strikes me as too fiddly to do the amount of typing and word processing I like to do.
Thanks for any suggestions...
M
Anyone got the URL of a helpful XDA forum?
Coucou !
What about a HTC Touch Pro2 ??? Also called Rhodium here and there?
Screen 3,6", aGPS included...
For me, one of the best nowadays!
OK thanks.
One additional factor is that I get a corporate discount on the iPhone, so £200 cheaper than the HTC...
I've ordered one but am still not sure I've made the right choice.
Mus said:
OK thanks.
One additional factor is that I get a corporate discount on the iPhone, so £200 cheaper than the HTC...
I've ordered one but am still not sure I've made the right choice.
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Hey Mus , I am desparate to get an iPhone but simply can't afford one at the moment.
I have a Nokia N95 8Gb to either sell to someone/ some company or sort out a part ex deal.
I reckon I can sell my Nokia ( an amazing phone , incidently but not as nifty as an iPhone) for about £100 .
If you don't like your iPhone , please contact me
PS You couldn't order another one through your company ( FOR ME ) Nudge Nudge Wink Wink !
Well, there are contractual obligations that I would think twice about for friends and family and wouldn't even consider on behalf of a stranger...
I sent the iPhone back until I can properly check the alternatives
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What about a HTC Touch Pro2 ??? Also called Rhodium here and there? Screen 3,6", aGPS included... For me, one of the best nowadays!
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That does look good. Or I might be able to get a Touch HD 2.
The main thing I need to consider is how different is WinMo 6 from WM2003? Is being able to use a stylus and multitask worth forgoing the apps, surfing and multimedia whizzbang of the iPhone or has HTC caught up with that a little?
Unlike the iPhone it's hard to find a live device to play with in a shop.
Coucou!
I understand it's barely available in shop to "play" with...
But for all you're asking for, it's perfect. Not as smooth, sadly, as an iPhone, but much more improvable (correct word?), may be as efficient, and so pleasant to use with the Manilla interface.
Really, I won't change my Rhodium for an iPhone, even with money!
OK thanks.
How much of an improvement is WM 6 over 2003? Is it faster surfing, does it do flash streaming? Generally I switch graphics off on the XDA over GPRS.
M
OK, so it's much of a muchness with WM2003 then? No improvements?
Coucou!
Of course, there are lots of improvements, graphic interface, usage, memory, applications, .......... and ......... and .........
You can read everywhere what are the improvements.......
Yeah, just wish I could find a live one to try out for myself.
I went to an O2 shop and they didn't have one and say they have been selling less and less WinMo phones. They said they have stopped offering the XDA range and don't expect to stock the Touch HD 2 until January if at all.
Don't know if all that is true but I really dislike Apple for making every manufacturer think that a stylus is old hat. For typing the Apple is not a business phone, it's a consumer toy.
The Touch Pro 2 does look good , though I am reluctant to pay full price for it.
Tried out a live Hero yesterday - iPhone wannabe with less useful apps (for me)
Wonder what happened to that patent HTC took out on a capacitative stylus?
The 3g shop said they used to sell the Touch Pro 2 but nobody ever bought one so they stopped.
Also why aren't the prices of the Touch Pro 2 at rock bottom if there is no demand?
So what if any issues have you had with your stock nexus1 ? Has rooting helped or hurt?
I love my G1 but it will be time to upgrade soon. Ive just done a wipe and upgrade to cm 5.0.8 DS and like it so far.
Id love to have a rooted N1 but the horror stories with post as recent as today about wifi,trackball & screen issues make me reconsider. So far I don't know of anything else in the same ballpark that will work on Tmobile.
Thanks for any input
G1 rooted with cyanogen 5.0.8 DS
Xda app
I have not seen any issues with wifi, trackball nor screen. I been the owner of my Nexus One for over 2 months already and I can tell you, This was the best investment ever. Now, with custom ROMs you can improve the functionality of the Phone by a lot. 720p video, faster, wifi n, radio fm maybe? etc...
The N1 has very good hardware, it has things that may be officially unlocked in the near future who knows, though they are already unlocked for custom roms.
Also good to have if you plan to be the base for Android, Since Google will use the N1 as their main device, everything will be optimized for you. (That's my bet, we all saw it with Froyo Demos)
It's fine. 99% of the people wit thing are happy with it, the 1% with problems are understandably vocal. I have two N1's on my account mine (which is rooted) and my girlfriends (which isn't rooted, but has been running the Froyo test ROM for a while). Both work great.
I loved my G1. Probably the phone I loved most when I had it.
The N1 is a better phone in almost every single way ((I was able to change alot of the hardware kb/tb/covers etc on G1)) which is why i loved it.
Nexus One is a leap ahead of every phone prior to April its not even funny. Dont hesitate the N1 >> > and >> over any other phone on Tmobile right now. I love the Mytouch slide but the power ability of N1 are a much better choice.
IMO N1 still has best overall feature set in HW/SW available on the market. Even though that lead has slimmed its still the best you can get right now.
The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
they arent problems, just people complaining vocally. the wifi works great, the screen works great, and i've never heard of any trackball issues. go for it you wont regret it.
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The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
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My exact situation, and thoughts. I actually have my 3GS in the cabinet here at my desk because I thought I might want to switch back and forth, but I haven't touched my 3GS since the N1 showed up in the mail.
That's exact what I'd like in an N1 and get a 8" or less touchpad running android later lol
Now I need to decide on a renewal or pay full price
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
Ok so after checking the Google page I qualify for an upgrade and with overnight shipping ( which oddly is the same as ground shipping) for $313.38
Does T-mobile charge anything else?
My current plan is the MyFaves 1000 and I guess will be the Even more individual 500 plan. which wont be so bad now that everyone texts rather than calls, and there is wifi calling
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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
Haven't had any voice issues at all on Fido in Canada.
Your voice as in people you call cant hear you?
Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation
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Why? If you don't like it, return it. If you like it and you have a problem with it, HTC will fix or replace it under warranty.
Honestly, the "reports" on this or that regarding Nexus One deficiencies were broadcasted much louder than any other phone because of the hype surrounding the device. In reality, they are the same few and far between issues you'd find with any other phone on the market.
From someone who used to swap phones as frequently as once every month, I have been using the Nexus One since launch day, had problems with the first AT&T version I bought, and had HTC replace it. Not a problem since.
Where do these reputations come from? the dust issue is the only real one ive seen and htc has fixed the glue problem. its a great phone buy it.
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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I've never had this issue on Rogers and I've installed practically every ROM available.
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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1. Swype. I'll never go back.
2. The possibility is there for an app to have it.
Back to topic, I love my N1. I kept it stock for a few months, but I rooted it about a month ago and somehow, the phone is that much better. It's a staple of what I have the freedom to do now. AGPS + nav is phenomenal and comes with the phone. The camera is great. Video can now be shot at 720p (if rooted), and will soon come to Froyo. The hardware is crazy fast, Javascript 2.1 vs 2.2 vs iPad, 40+MFLOPS performance. And, since this is Google's baby, it will be the first to receive updates like Froyo.
The touch surface isn't as bad as people are making it seem, and if you're really up for gaming you can hook a wii-mote to it. Talking on the phone is fine. I occasionally have a weird call, but my friend with an iPhone drops/no-connects calls way more than me.
It has it's quirks. The antenna is located at the bottom of the phone. The reception isn't the best, and T-Mobile doesn't have the strongest signal. I work in a office building/warehouse, and getting 3G in some parts of the first floor (built on a hill, sometimes underground sometimes not) is difficult. A few N1s have had dust under the screen (fixed from what I've heard). Other than that... The phone is excellent.
midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I also got the AT&T Phone, but No Issues with voice or anything like that.
The only downside of AT&T phones are.... NO FROYO GOD DAMN IT... well just yet.
pass and wqit
pass on the n1. I own an n1 for a few months now and HATE THE 3G ISSUESthat it has. also miss the physical keyboard... your g1s keyboard is great and I'd toss this nexus for a snapdragon g1 in a heartbeat.
I'd also suggest not renewing your contract so youccan chose any phone.... any carrier.
two cents
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Haha, reluctant to go from the G1 to nexus? I guess I kinda understand. I went from my G1 to the Nexus 6 months ago and god damn I haven't thought twice about that decision! Rooting your phone just makes things that much more fun too!
I now have my HD7 for some time, since 2nd day it was launched in o2 UK to be exact.
I was at first trying to sell my HD2 but now I can not do it. The wow factor of HD7 is gone and now for me HD7 is just a phone while HD2 well can not explain.
I guess with HD2 it is better to have and not need rather then need and not have.
So how many of you at the end did not sell the HD2?
Do not sell hd2 after buying hd7. You wil be sorry, hd2 is legacy.
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Do not sell hd2 after buying hd7. You wil be sorry, hd2 is legacy.
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Thx you defo helped me there I mean I did not want to sell it but now I DO NOT want to sell it.
For real there is something about that device, I mean first so fast, first that could run win mobile, android, ubuntu, win95 and who knows what else.
Mines for sale right now. Cant stand the lock ups, dropped calls, glitches. Sometimes I just want to make a call when I need to.
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Mines for sale right now. Cant stand the lock ups, dropped calls, glitches. Sometimes I just want to make a call when I need to.
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What your HD2 did that as my one is perfect, I only got HD7 when I drowned HD2 and was waiting for replacement.
I got my HD2 and HD7 for free as price for winning some developing contest.
I gave hd2 to a friend, dont get me wrong, HD7 is perfect but i miss hd2, as i said, hd2 is the greatest winmo device no matter what. it should be there as souvenir for all developers.
Ok obviously who ever needs the HD2 more than the HD7 is because of the options of constantly changing roms, dual booting, better GPS at the moment ect... But just as the recent comment. I loved the HD2 at one time but come on, HD2 does everything accept what a cell phone was meant for. Actually the HD2 is what made me miss having a phone that dont freeze and have glitches half of the time. Keyboard was horrible, so texting was another pain. I mean I just missed having to do the simplest things quick with no hassle or having to go thru an obstacle course. The HD7 brought all the simplicity of doing all these things and then some, quicker and faster than ever before. Yes its missing a few things some of us cant live without but I bet by the middle of 2011 that wont be a problem for them anymore. Im happy to be able to do simple things fast and easy with a touch of a new feel of something modern. Thats my thought on my HD7 God Bless...
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Ok obviously who ever needs the HD2 more than the HD7 is because of the options of constantly changing roms, dual booting, better GPS at the moment ect... But just as the recent comment. I loved the HD2 at one time but come on, HD2 does everything accept what a cell phone was meant for. Actually the HD2 is what made me miss having a phone that dont freeze and have glitches half of the time. Keyboard was horrible, so texting was another pain. I mean I just missed having to do the simplest things quick with no hassle or having to go thru an obstacle course. The HD7 brought all the simplicity of doing all these things and then some, quicker and faster than ever before. Yes its missing a few things some of us cant live without but I bet by the middle of 2011 that wont be a problem for them anymore. Im happy to be able to do simple things fast and easy with a touch of a new feel of something modern. Thats my thought on my HD7 God Bless...
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Perfectly said! HD2 was great for custom stuff but just so frustrating sometimes when you just want to make a call.
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Ok obviously who ever needs the HD2 more than the HD7 is because of the options of constantly changing roms, dual booting, better GPS at the moment ect... But just as the recent comment. I loved the HD2 at one time but come on, HD2 does everything accept what a cell phone was meant for. Actually the HD2 is what made me miss having a phone that dont freeze and have glitches half of the time. Keyboard was horrible, so texting was another pain. I mean I just missed having to do the simplest things quick with no hassle or having to go thru an obstacle course. The HD7 brought all the simplicity of doing all these things and then some, quicker and faster than ever before. Yes its missing a few things some of us cant live without but I bet by the middle of 2011 that wont be a problem for them anymore. Im happy to be able to do simple things fast and easy with a touch of a new feel of something modern. Thats my thought on my HD7 God Bless...
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Perfectly said! HD2 was great for custom stuff but just so frustrating sometimes when you just want to make a call.
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Swype keyboard is much faster then any normal touch keyboard, I could do texting 2x as fast as now.
What freezing, I am sorry but OzRom from about middle of it's development was bullet proof.
I mean yes apps will be there for HD7 but there is so much staff that will take ages as no one thinks about it at start of using the phone.
I have a conversation in sms that has now 30 messages and I can delete all (do not want to) or nothing.
Bluetooth is useless if used on anything other then headsets.
There is a lot to do yet if the phone was 100% stable. That is why I think HD2 is epic. Plenty off stuff could have been and was sorted.
I kept mine for 2 reasons:
1. Always keep my last phone as backup. This means my previous backup (O2 Ignito/Dimond) has now been handed down the familiy.
2. Copilot is the best SatNav, but once one comes to the HD7, I will be putting the HD2 in storage.
The HD2 was the best WM phone ever, and I've been using WM/WinCe for about 9 years. Only problem is it came the year of the death of WM, so no further development happing outside of xda-devs.
I always used the Energy ROMs, and have been trying some of the Android builds, just as an opertunity to see what it's all about. Again it's just for Copilot because my key works on that too. Other than the fact you can get updates for Copilot, I really don't see the differenct between WM and Android, so glad I went with the HD7.
Will co-pilot/tomtom ever be available on wp7 as if it does then my HD2 will go to box for ocassional usage (PSX console).
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+1 The HD2 is the best phone in history. It has won popularity polls and is a phone that can be any phone. It is reliable and has outstanding hardware.
I have an HD7, but I didn't even think for a moment to get rid of my HD2 or stop using it. I use Android on mine and it serves me well. Currently using the revolutionary new Darkstone SuperRAM Nexus One build on it. The SuperRAM uses the RAM of the HD2 for operation as opposed to ROM or NAND running from the card. This makes it almost like an actual flashed ROM but faster. There is research into the viability of doing actual ROMs this way rather than flashing.
Sold my hd7 and I did keep my HD2 TMOUS. For the moment HD7 is too limited to use. I couldn't even log in my security cam on my HD7 - useful software is limited, you can't even get decent navigation software for HD7. HD7 is just another nice phone that does'nt give you the possibilty to give it your personal touch. This is for me a no go.
kept my hd2 for about 1 week after getting my hd7, then put the hd2 on craigslist. got 200.00 for it about 24 hours later.
Sorry, but as far as basic functionality, hd7 works better. Hasn't frozen once in 6 weeks, haven't had to delete text messages to prevent lag, it just works.
Now I have 2 more hd2's (wife and son), so I still have 2 phones to tweak occasionally (even the best custom ROM needs refreshing every month or so).
Lets look at this thread after the MS update that's coming, hopfully some issues will be addressed.
God I miss all the leaks we had with WM6, at least on xda-dev you could get newer builds leaked ahead of schedule.
Not missing my HD2 one bit (unless in the car)
So seem I am in minority. I still love my HD2 more then HD7.
HD7 did wow me .... until I tried to do anyting that a smartphone should do.
All from UK will know: "The computer says No."
I did not experience the problems many mentioned wit HD2. Never had problems with calling, in fact signal on HD7 is worse.
There was a hardware button to pickup the phone so even if the screen did not want to go on I could finish the conversation.
On HD7 I have installed a app called AP (news reader of some sort) and my proximity sensor was only switching the phone off. So after picking up the phone call I could not diconnect as screen was not turning back on. For me HD7 has as many little niggles as HD2 yet somehow it seems to do less stuff.
I keep it in hope that said january update and time for developers will fix a lot but I am now having my doubts. Copy paste is only thing in the update that is needed, nothing else addresses usability issues, at least nothing I see in the unofficial update list.
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So seem I am in minority. I still love my HD2 more then HD7.
HD7 did wow me .... until I tried to do anyting that a smartphone should do.
All from UK will know: "The computer says No."
I did not experience the problems many mentioned wit HD2. Never had problems with calling, in fact signal on HD7 is worse.
There was a hardware button to pickup the phone so even if the screen did not want to go on I could finish the conversation.
On HD7 I have installed a app called AP (news reader of some sort) and my proximity sensor was only switching the phone off. So after picking up the phone call I could not diconnect as screen was not turning back on. For me HD7 has as many little niggles as HD2 yet somehow it seems to do less stuff.
I keep it in hope that said january update and time for developers will fix a lot but I am now having my doubts. Copy paste is only thing in the update that is needed, nothing else addresses usability issues, at least nothing I see in the unofficial update list.
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I'm the same with my HD2. I never experienced any of the troubles others complain of. My HD2 with WinMo has been the best phone I've ever owned. And has been the most exciting phone as well. I use a custom ROM and radio, but the OEM WinMo was never any trouble in the least...with the exception of crappily coded apps that would cause issues. Learning early on to be careful about what I installed has made my HD2 trouble free.
However, I love my HD7. I deem it to be a luxury car among smartphones. It is silky smooth, glamorous and works so well. The current apps are a different story, but WP7 and the HD7 work flawlessly in and of themselves. When MS does the coming updates, I expect it to be greatly, functionally, enhanced.
I have high esteem for my HD2 and would not part with it. I currently use Android on it, not because WinMo is bad but, because of the fun of possessing the latest, greatest Android phones. I owned a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G phone for a few days and hated the looks of the thing. Now that I have a flawless build of MT4G (courtesy of motoman234) on my HD2, I love it. Using it on my HD2 rather than the ugly MyTouch phone makes it so much more interesting and enjoyable. And I'm waiting for a fully functional build of the Nexus S Gingerbread. Now that's outstanding! My Windows Mobile phone getting Android updates long before the actual Android phones do...lol.
I love both the HD2 and HD7 equally, but in different ways. I love the "iPhone simplicity" of my HD7. A simplicity that has a special appeal that WP7 provides. Being such an excellent Zune, in that regard, I look at my HD7 as a more advanced Zune player than the dedicated Zunes out right now. But a Zune player indeed.
ruscik said:
Will co-pilot/tomtom ever be available on wp7 as if it does then my HD2 will go to box for ocassional usage (PSX console).
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Wow, I though I was the only one thinking about this and glad to see I am not alone.. I switched a while back HD2 from a iphone (only edge with tmobile) and quickly ported Froyo 2.2 and absolutely loved (love) it.. I type on the go and "swiftkey" is my favorite. I had the chance to upgrade and got the HD7.
It's a nice problem to have but certain my Android HD2 does a lot that HD7 does not.. I don't talk to anyone about it becasue they wouldn't understand but I alternate a couple days HD2 then a couple days HD7.. I never really gave win 6.5 a chance and was not that impressed.. I must have a good build lot and don't have many of the freezing issues I have read about.. Google Nav and Copilot live are both way better than TeleNav and Google (free) and CoPilot $3.99 one time beats $10.00 bucks a month?? To me they are totally equal but in different ways..
I also use my HD2 with Android. I learnt that my WM 6.5 Copilot key worked with the Android Copilot. Also using my HD2 as a work phone.
Still once copilot or some other decent satnav appears on WP7 I will be using that for getting around and my HD2 purely for work calls.
My HD2 ran with not many probs, and the few it did have, was worth the OS compared to HD7, my HD7 now is a great paper weight, as that is all its good for,
I had to reboot it almost daily to get marketplace to load or when it locked up in mind searching, I care less about facebook, No tethering, no select all, have to switch screens to track multi email addresses, no right hand scroll on contacts, have to click letters,
Call dropping is the same as my HD2, its more of a network issue.
Live tiles, to me seem useless, as the HD2 showed you when u have a message, or email or missed call time, weather, all ur important apps and what ever is need on one screen with no scroling needed, it even notifies you with a light
So till WM wows the crap out of WM7 and makes it better then wm6.5 my HD7 might be on craigs list soon.