Internal storage - some missing - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I posted this question in a seperate thread but it got lost in another conversation so I though I would create a new thread for it..
Can someone tell me if there are hidden files or something similar on the internal storage?
When I look at All settings -> system -> memory, it says that there is 2725MB in use but if I total the individual values for each folder in my internal storage it only adds up to 2122MB. It's driving me mad as space is limited enough as it is...

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Diamond Main Storage memory very low

Hi all, I understand the main storage is 50MB and depending on the ROM this gets eaten up fast. Right now mine is at 1MB free. I text a lot and I figured it is the text message DB that is eating up the space.
Is there a way to move that DB to the internal storage instead?
Edit: This app helped find space consumers at ppcgeeks: MobileMonger
kajolishot said:
Hi all, I understand the main storage is 50MB and depending on the ROM this gets eaten up fast. Right now mine is at 1MB free. I text a lot and I figured it is the text message DB that is eating up the space.
Is there a way to move that DB to the internal storage instead?
Edit: This app helped find space consumers at ppcgeeks: MobileMonger
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If you are desperate to keep your old messages, use one of the backup programs located on this forum and delete your old ones from the device.
Besides that, I suggest cleaning up the storage space by deleting unnecessary pictures, such as the ones that come on the phone or moving your media to the internal storage.

Storage Memory problem... need help.

I keep getting the "Storage Memory" message on my screen and don't know where/how to free it up. Can anyone tell how to do this?
Thanks.
TW,
No one has any idea how to fix this?
if you have a full storage card start removing some stuff that you have through activesync or removing programs that you have.
So, is this application space on the phone itself? are there temporary files that could be dumped, etc.?
Thanks,
tiger.woods said:
So, is this application space on the phone itself? are there temporary files that could be dumped, etc.?
Thanks,
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I have no idea what you are talking about dude, what I meant is that you can manually remove files that maybe are on your sd card through activesync (exploring files in your card) and have some space available but if you want to clean temporary files. You can use Cleartemp
I hope that helps,
I have a 4 gig SD card in the phone, its not even close to full.
If you look at the picture I posted its referencing 128 meg so its storage somewhere else, where is it and why is it getting full?
Thanks,
tiger.woods said:
I have a 4 gig SD card in the phone, its not even close to full.
If you look at the picture I posted its referencing 128 meg so its storage somewhere else, where is it and why is it getting full?
Thanks,
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Hi Tiger Woods...busy with you phone and not with golf (we hope to see you back soon)
The message you are getting is related to your main storage (phone) and it's has nothing to do with your sdcard.
I assume you have a 6.5 rom from what I see in your pictures. This cooked roms (not light versions) will get more storage since chefs include apps in their images and adding to that; if you install additional programs in your main storage (not on sd card) you'll get the message.
Use the app that I just sent you (if not already in your rom) and start to free some memory and also I will recommend you to start removing programs from main storage and installing them in your sdcard so you can free some memory from your phone.
I hope that helps,

Strange file system issues

My file system is totally confused. When I browse to EMMC from a file manager it goes to my SD Card. If I browse to SD Card it actually goes to the internal drive.
I've had my rooted Nook Color for about 5 weeks now (CM7 booted from a SD card). Everything was working great until I tried installing some different launchers. I tried GoLauncher, Zeam, ICS, Honeycomb and maybe one more. The default was ADW. Maybe I confused the system by constantly switching from one to the next but at some point the system crashed and I rebooted.
Once rebooted I noticed that many of the games I installed told me I needed to redownload their data files. I looked on my card, through my Mac, but the original files were still there. Turns out the Nook now installs apps on the internal drive rather than the card as it had been before.
Wouldn't be so bad but, as mentioned earlier, the file system is confused. When i need to manage files I've loaded on my SD card I have to browse to EMMC and vice versa. Makes my head spin.
Is there a way to fix it without starting from scratch? I'm using CM7.2.0.
Thanks for your help
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Anyway, what you likely did is Settings -> Cyanogenmod Settings -> Application Settings -> Use internal storage (checked). If you do this, then it swaps the mount points for the SD and the internal memory, so the SD card is mounted at "/emmc" and the internal memory is mounted at "/sdcard". See the first post in the thread in my sig for more information about this.
If you really want to return it to the original way, wasting 5G of internal storage space, then you can uncheck that box in the settings and it'll go back to normal.
Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
false1 said:
Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
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Well, the "fix", IMHO, is to leave it with them swapped.
Yes, it matters where apps are stored and it matters what is mounted at /sdcard. Apps use space on the /sdcard partition for settings, temp storage, downloads, etc. Mounting that 5G partition at /sdcard instead of /emmc allows these apps to use that space rather than cluttering your actual SD card. And apps are going to wind up on your 1G partition, not on either the /sdcard or /emmc mountpoint.
You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
mr72 said:
You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
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I think efficiency is more in how you choose to utilise the spaces rather than fundamentally in which switch option you use. For example, I choose to completely fill the 5GB of internal with sound and picture media as they get included in the normal app scanning process. Leaving the SD card to hold yet more media, app data and back ups.
It's still good to have the choice offered by the switch.

Only 2.88GB Application Storage. Stock phone. Where is my space?

I was having issues with my phone and accidentally deleted some system apps so I restored my phone using the fastboot files and cleared my internal SD card storage. Upon reboot (with no apps installed), there is only 2.88GB of application storage available.
If I remember correctly, 8GB is allocated to the internal SD card. Does that mean 8GB goes to application storage? If so, where is my other 5GB?
2.88 for Apps, 8 for internal, and the rest(no more than like 4 gig) for the OS if IIRC.
The OS takes up that much space?
Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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So under storage it lists:
Total Phone Storage
Total Space 16.00GB
Application Storage
Available Space 2.73GB
Internal Media Storage
Available Space 8.00GB
Windows Media Sync
Windows Media Sync Storage Internal Storage (8.00GB/8.00GB)
The phone is stock with no updates/market apps. No pics, music, etc (Was backed up and formatted). I should still see 5.27GB somewhere right?
This summed it up pretty well for me. I think I answered my own question. This is exactly what my phone shows.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/motorola-droid-4-advertises-16gb-internal-storage-only-reports/
Straight from Moto with a little more detail: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...r_detail/a_id/76066/p/30,6720,8302/kw/storage
Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
They inflate the phone's storage capacity to fool you into buying it, thinking you're really getting that much. It's an old trick.
core2kid said:
Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
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Repartition the phone and flash with custom OS and you can use all that space, right?
Yea, that's probably why Moto Mobility is going down under.
I think a custom OS takes up space from your media partition.

[Q] Storage question - External_sd classed as misc?

I see a similar question was asked but never answered.
When I go to check my storage my USB storage has 4.98gb classed as misc.
when you click misc it shows you the misc files.
4.66gb of this data comes from external_sd.
Does anyone know where I can find this with a file explorer? (or on computer)
Does anyone know why these files are put in to external_sd?
If I delete the file what will I be deleting?
My SD card seems properly mounted i.e I can access files from it play music and copy files to it.
Thanks
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I just noticed the same thing today - showing 33.5GB of misc on a USB storage with total 11.07GB space ... "Ye canny defy the laws of physics cap'n", I thought
My view is that "USB storage" is just poorly named, and it should really say "internal SD storage". The "SD card" section below that is also poorly named as it should really be named "external SD card". (note - I haven't looked at this screen while I have had a flash drive connected via "real" USB, so I'm not sure whether the bizzare naming starts making more sense in that scenario?)
Anyway, as your "external" (i.e. removable) sd card is mounted under the "internal" storage as /sdcard/external_sd, it seems the capacity on the external sd card is just being treated (in this settings/storage summary screen) as being part of the internal sd capacity.
The bit of the "USB storage" labeled "misc" is part of a colour coded bar chart of total space, nominally part of the internal SD card. It's purpose is to give a non-technical breakdown of the types of media that are occupying space (hence separate colours for "known categories" apps, audio, video, pictures etc.).
"Misc" is clearly just what they've used to cover everything else on the storage (so, designed for stuff like database files, text files and other random app data stuff that isn't easily classifiable).
As they've treated the mounted sd card as if it were part of internal SD, my guess is that it all just got too messy for the underlying script that was trying to identify and summarise media files recursively through all the sub-directories under /sdcard.
End result, they have lumped the total capavity of the external sd card into "misc" on the internal sd (whilst confusingly labeling that as "USB storage"), even though they have also itemised the same space separately down below under "SD card", without trying to display pretty coloured barcharts showing the usage profile.
In short - a total balls up of an attempt at summarising storage usage on the phone in laymans terms, but understandable once you get your head around it;; The "misc" discrepency doesn't indicate any problem ... beyond bad scripting & UI design

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