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Hi Guys,
CoreCodec has released a pre-update of CorePlayer that should fix most of the video playback issues on our devices ...
Can someone who is authorized to download the update confirm that it works smooothly with htc Kaiser ?
All owners of CorePlayer 1.x should be able to update for free ...
The Link to the thread in CoreCodec board is here :
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=669.0
Thomas
I just downloaded it on my Touch. So far with the one file i actually had on my Touch the QTV driver shows the video with a black screen. The file plays when I have GDI. I was assuming the Touch may use the same QTV driver. But I think I remember somewhere that BetaBoy wrote that this was for Mpeg4 files only. So i'll look. I was able to run a bench mark using the GDI and QTV settings though. QTV did about 10% higher on this small file.
Hum... I'm currently testing it with a 640x340 xvid file and it seems pretty fluid. Don't really know if I'd say the playback is flawless.
Hi,
Thanks for sharing this news.
I downloaded and installed on my Kaiser.
It feels like my device is much more responsive now!
Also the Touchscreen feels more responsive!
THIS FEELS GOOD
Am I grazy and the only one or what?
Regards,
Leo
Uhm, why would this make the touchscreen more responsive?
You tell me...
It does!
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Uhm, why would this make the touchscreen more responsive?
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I went to the link but I didnt see where to buy it. Is it just the current one for sale?
You can buy Kaiser edition here:
http://www.mobihand.com/product.asp?id=8905
kevinniven said:
I went to the link but I didnt see where to buy it. Is it just the current one for sale?
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Upgrade core player
Does anyone know if I can upgrade my core player for free?
I cant seem to find the info on there web site.
Thanks for the help!!
donatom3 said:
I just downloaded it on my Touch. So far with the one file i actually had on my Touch the QTV driver shows the video with a black screen. The file plays when I have GDI. I was assuming the Touch may use the same QTV driver. But I think I remember somewhere that BetaBoy wrote that this was for Mpeg4 files only. So i'll look. I was able to run a bench mark using the GDI and QTV settings though. QTV did about 10% higher on this small file.
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Please send a sample of the video via www.yousendit.com to [email protected] so we can take a look at it... thx!!
FYI.... also the speed difference will ONLY be available within CorePlayer itelf when playing back ANY video (not just ASP). Although ASP plays pretty damn flawless based on the early feedback.
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Please send a sample of the video via www.yousendit.com to [email protected] so we can take a look at it... thx!!
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Beta Boy it turns out it isn't the file. I even tried a couple of different mpeg 4 files encoded at 640x480. They play fine if I have it set to GDI but the second I put QTV on it plays black and the player becomes unresponsive. Now I do have the Vogue Touch which uses the CDMA verison of the Kaiser chipset. The case might be that the changes that were made to core media work on the kaiser only so far.
So theoretically, this proggy should play the videos fine, and utilize the unused hardware?
Is there a demo of this bychance, that we can test on our devices. I would gladly get the software if I could see that it works on my phone.
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So theoretically, this proggy should play the videos fine, and utilize the unused hardware?
Is there a demo of this bychance, that we can test on our devices. I would gladly get the software if I could see that it works on my phone.
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Even though my touch can't take advantage of the QTV driver. I do have to admit. This is a real clean player. I've only used the beta's before for youtube, but really like this version leaps and bounds beyond even windows media player. Looks like I gotta relink all my sprint links to go to this player instead of Windows Media. I have to admit this version plays videos better than the others did even in GDI mode.
It's a great program. Hopefully there is something small missing for the Vogue to work with the QTV video mode, but for now in GDI mode it's still leaps and bounds above what I had before. Now gotta figure out how to get youtube to work with this.
you know, both you guys at XDA-Dev as well as the CoreCodec people seem to be trustworthy enough. I'm currently RMAing my cracked phone. So I'll lurk this topic to see if its worked on other peoples phones. If the results seem positive. Then It'll be the first bit of software i install on the new Tilt that'll come in.
beta_boy--Thanks
Hi beta_boy,
Because of your support for our issues, I purchased CorePlayer for our device , but am a vid newb, so having issues, I'll check out the forums on your site.
Alemaker
Coreplayer
Got it. Seems to be better
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Got it. Seems to be better
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Post a bit more info please.
Compare different video files in format/bitrate you have already tried without changing anything else on your device. Subjective will do for the moment as most on here will only be happy with a 'visual' improvement as benchmark figures are no substitute for 'bloody great improvement' !!
Need to know this info (drooling at the mouth at the moment!!)
Many thanks.
Just downloaded it. Looked at two different movies, one in MP4 and one in M4V format. Subjectively they look better, playback was smooth as was motion. Hard to quantify of course (and there is likely a placebo effect)e but overall I'd say it's an improvement.
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Hi, I just dont get it. Xperia is made by HTC, has the same Qualcomm CPU, and same camera. Why the hell can Xperia record video at VGA 30 FPS, but Diamond can only Cif 15 FPS? And more, Xperia can play video in WVGA DVD-like bitrate, which is at least 1.5Mb , But Diamond barely can run 1 Mb VGA video. Why? Again - Same CPU.
I don't think the CPU is the bottleneck here, but the GPU
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Hi, I just dont get it. Xperia is made by HTC, has the same Qualcomm CPU, and same camera. Why the hell can Xperia record video at VGA 30 FPS, but Diamond can only Cif 15 FPS? And more, Xperia can play video in WVGA DVD-like bitrate, which is at least 1.5Mb , But Diamond barely can run 1 Mb VGA video. Why? Again - Same CPU.
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i don't why you say Xperia is made by HTC. It's Sony Ericsson and correct me if i m wrong.
For the whys, I guess xperia has some kinda dedicated graphics GPU and more RAM to work all this out.
bouzoubaa said:
i don't why you say Xperia is made by HTC. It's Sony Ericsson and correct me if i m wrong.
For the whys, I guess xperia has some kinda dedicated graphics GPU and more RAM to work all this out.
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nope, HTC manufacture it
bouzoubaa said:
i don't why you say Xperia is made by HTC. It's Sony Ericsson and correct me if i m wrong.
For the whys, I guess xperia has some kinda dedicated graphics GPU and more RAM to work all this out.
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The Experia is in fact produced by HTC, but distibuted by SE
Xperia is made by HTC FOR Sony Ericsson. HTC made it. Yes, Xperia has 256 MB RAM, but I dont tnihk this is it. I am almost sure this is not. Diamond´s 192 is not low number. GPU? It has the same GPU as Diamond. 7201A CPU are dual-core, one core is processor core, and the second one is GPU core. And more, Loox 720 (siemens) can play video VGA 1,5 Mb at 120%, but Diamond only 92%, same displays. And that loox 720 has PXA 520MHz Xscale CPU, 3 years old CPU is way better than brand new 7201A even in QTv mode. HTC universal - VGA, 520 MHz Intel Xscale - 114%. Even HTC old device can play video much better than brand new Diamond. F**k HTC.
Seems they have given Diamond users crap drivers
More like crappy chipset. Coreplayer works with hardware directly, and its still worse than with comparison with XScale.
Or just maybe HTC underclocked MSM on Diamond, because otherwise its 900Mah battery wont last even a day
I dont think so. CorePlayer uses some bypass (TyTN 2 driver mode), Myabe some modifications could be done there. I have official text which says that CorePlayer will beter support Diamond (7201A chipset).
I wasnt aware they tested Coreplayer on Xperia, nor that they already have Xperia support there
No, they didn´t. But official materials says that Xperia will be able to play video at VGA resolution with DVD bitrate. Which is much better than Diamond.
Anyway, With same chipset, Xperia still can make better videos than Diamond. About that CorePlayer official text. I wrote them an e-mail, asking for better Diamond 7201A support, and I get this: "Yes we will be working on this version to better work with the device." So maybe we will have some better video playback performance. Who knows. I dont think that chipset is bad, Call Of Duty mobile is smoother on 7201A then on Xscale 520MHz. And MMX can accelerate graphic. I hope that this is all about implementation of the QTv mode. (Becouse this could be solved).
I wouldnt trust what they *say* in PR statements about device that is still in production at all. I still remember very well how they touted Kaiser as "multimedia-rich" device and then tried to slip off when users started to become outraged of how slow it actually was.
Yes, I know, but there is one thing different - it will be "sony ericsson" phone. I think they know what they promis. Anyway, like I said, CorePlayer maybe increase speed of video playback, becou that is the last bad think on diamond. (At least last BIG bad tnihg)
would be nice to have a multi-window like card like touch sleep screen on th Diamond like the Xperia has
Still, any ideas why Diamond and Raphael can not record video at VGA @ 30 FPS, while Xperia witrh SAME CPU can?
Hi all. Is anyone else dissatisfied by the video recording performance of their Diamond? I know my Touch Pro is a massive letdown - even compared to my old XDA II from 4 years ago! I just got back and my holiday videos are rubbish.
Ateksoft's CoolCamera is a brilliant app for PPC's that can boost framerate, picture size and quality. However it doesn't work with the recent HTC devices.
I'm sure other people would be happy to part with a couple of quid for an app that could turn their Diamond into a great camera. If you're interested, please post in the following thread on Ateksoft's website:
http://ateksoft.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=5429&sid=164940bf473d8dc362e316a3ac416462#5429
It only takes a second to register and it could make a lot of difference!
Cheers,
Mike
Im talking about watching movies, playing games - i dont know what the reason its so slow but it is painfully slow. its bothering me a lot. it seems like older much cheaper phones can play video much better than our phones.
is it a hardware fault (no hope) or a software fault ?
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
anyways, my videos and some 3d games run pretty fast on my phone.
not java games cause those arent hardware supported
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
a game like archibalds adventure cant even scroll properly. i mean it looks like it was taken out of the 80s.
Maybe it is because this phone has up to 5 times more pixels then previous phones you have owned?
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
tehnoobzorz said:
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
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Care to recommend a ROM?
orangedavie said:
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
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It copes with them just fine. it just wasn't made with gaming in mind.
Shadowdh said:
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
Yeah, I have to agree. 5X the pixels means nothing if the phone can't handle them
No problem for me with video...
-I recode vidéo in 800*480 with HTC Touch HD Video Converter
-I use Windows Media Player to watch video
rom im using
im using touch it xperience 3.5 but i've heard touch it 2.2 was faster
from now on if it has qualcom in the hardware spec im gonna avoid it like the plague!
I gotta admit, just when I start being happy with the Xperia video.....
I'll look over at some movie my wife is watching on the iphone and just shake my head. The Xperia is NOT impressive in the video dept. I can get video to play to ALMOST lag free and it looks pretty dang good. But c'mon already! With the hardware capabilities of this phone, video should look all around amazing.
KennyXL said:
What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
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I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
I dont get it. I have a stock ROM and my video is perfect. I downloaded an Ipod converted (m4v) version of Superbad and it looks and sounds amazing FULL screen btw). All i had to do was rename the file to mp4 and it works perfectly! Maybe there is something else going on with you guys phones. I also have Anchorman, SemiPro, and several others running perfectly. Besides TF3D, i dont have any other plug ins installed.
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
creamy said:
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
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i dont see why I have to convert videos to another format.
Shadowdh said:
I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen. Ideally, you shouldn't even have to recode video you ripped yourself. In theory you should be able to rip once and play on all your appliances that are video capable using a standard codec with reasonable settings. An avi file 1.3 gigabytes in size for a 2 hour movie is entirely reasonable and I highly doubt that you can achieve that with the X1 in its current state. I've tried extensively and the only way you can make it play with any level of smoothness is by dramatically reducing the resolution or dropping the bitrate precipitously. You can't just drag an acceptable video from your computer onto this phone and expect it to play acceptably the way it is right now. As for the expectation that it's only a phone I say that the drivers are the only thing that prevent it from meeting the expectations. I'll bet the hardware is there, but HTC just feels like being cheap. Heck, there are phones debuting at MWC right now that do full motion 1080p playback of h.264 video. The X1, which isn't more than a few months old, can't smoothly play back a 640x480 1,500 kbs video. At $700 retail and their promise of a full-featured multi-media device that is scandalous. I dare anyone to say otherwise.
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen.
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You sound much more knowledgable than me so I wont try to argue with you, but I have quite a few avi files that are around the 800mb size that play very well and are crisp and clear even on a bigger screen (my laptop is 15.4 and pc is 19inches), in fact I find it pretty rare to have an avi file over 900 Mb for a standard movie (up to 2hours I would guess is pretty standard)... As another poster a couple of posts back mentioned, I notice a few problems that people are having that I dont... thank goodness as with my level of understanding I would be hard pressed to now what it is I need to search for to fix the problem...
Please Help.... HD or TD2.???
Which is faster?
user friendly??
What is the processor difference? (it is not the same)
Screen quality (not size)
chris2004 said:
Please Help.... HD or TD2.???
Which is faster?
user friendly??
What is the processor difference? (it is not the same)
Screen quality (not size)
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I own both , td2 is faster , most user friendly , better screen quality
processor differences ? just the VGA videorecorder , td2 has and hd no
stesa said:
I own both , td2 is faster , most user friendly , better screen quality
processor differences ? just the VGA videorecorder , td2 has and hd no
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So, the td2 had an improvement in the hardware lcd screen, right?If I m right the hd is more susceptive to brick? The assistence in Brazil is a hell and send to fix to htc international it will cost a lot of money since here there isn't a good place to do this.
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I wish I knew - crucial question for me, too.
Brandon from pocketnow.com thinks the TD2 is the better deal, check out his video comparison.
I've checked with a few vendors, and indeed the HD is still more expensive.
Newer device, better WM integration from what I hear, definite WM6.5 upgrade for less bucks? I'm tempted ...
> user friendly??
I wonder about that, too. The HD is a bit awkward to handle due to its size, but then again, I think I really want the huge display. I'm thinking it could serve as an internet tablet replacement, couldn't it?
Xperia X1, by comparison, has WVGA display too, and that's just too small for my eyes (amazing pixel-per-inch though!).
Hmmmm ... HD: 3.8" ... TD2: 3.2" ... X1: 3" ...
TD2 owners, let's hear it!
N.
own both, and I really cannot make a choice. My HD runs Dutty's 3.2 ROM which means that they pretty much have the same software. I list the benefits of either over the other, as far as I am concerned. For me, I believe its a tie.
TD2:
- TF3D is much faster for some reason. (perhaps because it is running an official ROM?)
- Warmer screen colors
- Small and Pocketable, it actually feels like a phone
- Cheaper
- Zoom bar is a really useful addition, but I could live without it.
- VGA video, but I don't use it that much anyway. Haven't noticed any significant difference on photo quality.
HD:
- Slightly better battery Life.
- BIG SCREEN makes writing with the on-screen keyboard more comfortable. Browsing the web is pure bliss. Car navigation experience is also superior
- 3.5mm audio jack means that I don't have to worry about forgetting the ExtUSB adapter.
Thanks pangel83 - I'm thinking along those lines too.
BTW, for everyone, there seems to be pretty much the same thread here. Just thought I'd point that out here, since apparently the other thread was created earlier. Didn't find it sooner myself, now keeping track of both.
N.
The HD is much more expensive than the TD2 and the only real difference is the screen size and the 3,5mm jack. Since a converter costs a few dollars it's not that big of a deal (unless you always forget it) and the size of the HD is not always a pro.
I'd say look at the video comparison of pocketnow, all their videos were really helpful when I had to chose a new phone