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XDA 2s Upgraded to wm 5

Hey all.
For once, I upgraded to wm 5 without any problems, well so I say.
Theres a few things, that I could do with.
When I originally tried upgrading, I copied the cab files etc from the ext rom ( o2's ) and I fancy installing some of the fixes they provide, but each one is called customization tools, so each time i install one, it uninstalls the previous. Any way around this?
Also, the joypad between the green and red phone, when the dialpad is open ( pressing green phone ) I used to be able to press up to view my contacts and down to see my history. Anyway to fix this?
One last, do the developers out there. I developer software for the ppc and windows using .net and cf.net. I would like to access the sdk of the phone it's self, which I know you can use CFNET's own framework to access certain things. But if theres anything else, i'd appreciate a heads up on it?
Kind regards
TIA
Gav

Hi, gRoberts
Can you tell where I can download WM5 for XDAs. I've searched but i haven't found anywhere (or I used the wrongkey to search)
Im waiting for your link.
Thanks alot.

nguyensonhm said:
Hi, gRoberts
Can you tell where I can download WM5 for XDAs. I've searched but i haven't found anywhere (or I used the wrongkey to search)
Im waiting for your link.
Thanks alot.
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BlueAngel Windows Mobile 5.0 Home Page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home

qyach said:
BlueAngel Windows Mobile 5.0 Home Page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home
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Thanks qyach

hijacking my thread lol
The previous versions were complicated, you had to get device id's etc correct or your phone was useless. So I downgraded back to shipped rom and lost my ext rom auto install feature.
This one, basically backup, unlock your rom, copy a file to the correct folder and run the exe, after that it's some complicated button presses and your in.
A tip! don't set a password when it first asks you. I did this on the last rom, and it locked me out completely. Not sure if its been fixed.
Gav

Dialer skin not right?

I am skinning my Herald completely in a Touch theme. Now i installed some of the Touch/Kaiser dialpad's i found. But all of them come up really wrong, one has HTC background and see-through invisible buttons. The other has a complete HTC background with only the letters being in the wrong position.
How can i fix this? I only need the dial/pin pad to be skinned, then im done.

hi
i'm trying to do the same thing. W>ould you be so kind to provide some links to the files you used? Or the names of the files, because i want to make my herald look like a touch too... I just downloaded a file called Wizard_retouched_dialer.cab . I'll try it out and let you know if it works on my device. I'm using the official WM6 Rom now, but am going to flash the latest PDAVIET rom with Touch FLO soon... wich one are u using? Thnx

I have this problem too, when i installed the reTOUCHEDdialer and i reboot, nothing has changed, and the buttons in the telephone dialer are empty, this dialer works in PDAVIET's rom, why not in the orginal?

somebody please?

yep same problem here, i think it has something to do with the .tsk we are using. When you change theme it asks you to restart the device and it changes the dialer. I think if we used a theme that did not touch the dialer we could use any dialer we liked. Just a theory.

you have to deactivate previous skin from registry soft reset and done.
the change you have to do in registry is here
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\phone\skin\Enabled=0
soft reset

kostas001 said:
you have to deactivate previous skin from registry soft reset and done.
the change you have to do in registry is here
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\skin\Enabled=0
soft reset
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before or after i install the dialer?

probably the problem you describe occurs after you install your new dialer.
then when you change this value it works fine, if it doesnt then try re installing the new dialer with the value change,
caution! soft reset with the power button not reset from the hole otherwise tha value in the registry won't take effect!

kostas001 said:
you have to deactivate previous skin from registry soft reset and done.
the change you have to do in registry is here
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\skin\Enabled=0
soft reset
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its more like :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\phone\skin\Enabled=0

yeap.. sorry i forgot phone :O

i have tried looking for this key prior to installing the dialer however i dont have it. any other suggestions?

i wrote wrongly the key. se previous posts and add phone

i set enable to 0 then restarted, i then had the original standard wm6 dialer, i installed the wizard retouched dialer then restarted. The dialer then had the same problem as previously mentioned. So I then set the reg key back to 0 restarted and now I am back to the standard wm6 dialer.
In short this dosen't work, any other suggestions?

s4vva said:
i set enable to 0 then restarted, i then had the original standard wm6 dialer, i installed the wizard retouched dialer then restarted. The dialer then had the same problem as previously mentioned. So I then set the reg key back to 0 restarted and now I am back to the standard wm6 dialer.
In short this dosen't work, any other suggestions?
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I tried theese settings long time ago, didnt work then (on wm5) and doesnt work on wm6 either
Someone has the sollution, but no one wants to share
lol

itje said:
I tried theese settings long time ago, didnt work then (on wm5) and doesnt work on wm6 either
Someone has the sollution, but no one wants to share
lol
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There is an solution for this. Just install the orginal rom from HTC. Do the setup. Press the softreset button before you get the HTC customizing screen, startup, install the reTOUCHdialer.cab and then reboot. Now the dialer is working again (you have prevented the customizer to install the other htc default dialer). Enjoy!

uxsebas said:
There is an solution for this. Just install the orginal rom from HTC. Do the setup. Press the softreset button before you get the HTC customizing screen, startup, install the reTOUCHdialer.cab and then reboot. Now the dialer is working again (you have prevented the customizer to install the other htc default dialer). Enjoy!
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thx, ill post this in my usefull tips thread

itje, is it work for you ?
I have tried to do this procedure without sucess. The dialer doesn't work with a htc_touch theme

...i tried both - nothing helps!
Any other ideas?
What about using the dialer of Hermes or Wizard and adding the missing pics?
But, who knows wich files we need?

When I follow the procedure above, the buttons display ok, until a restart. But the background is still set to HTC's default. This background is set before customization routine runs.
@mr_frosty_xxl: The Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2.cab, the name gives it away I think this was done for the Wizard.

Im trying to restore the wm6 standard dialer.. how do i do this?
Something to do with the registry? How do i edit this?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\phone\skin\Enabled=0
Please help, Thanks

wm6 row application unlock

hey guys,
just flashed my unlocked cingular treo 750 with the new wm6 row and was wondering if there was a way to perform an application unlock...
I have a few apps that are unsigned and it won't let me run them... it's extremely annoying..
any help would be greatly appreciated!

http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/AppUnlockReg.htm

paypalbid said:
http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/AppUnlockReg.htm
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thanks paypalbid but it didn't work... Did you get it to work on your treo?

just checking.....you downloaded the one for PPC instead of Smartphone right ?
What applications are you trying to run that required the phone to be app unlocked ?
Since i upgraded to WM6 i have not had problems with app unlock
If all fail why dont you just edit the registry your self by:
HKLM>Security>Policies>Policies
value = 0000101B DWORD = 1

paypalbid said:
just checking.....you downloaded the one for PPC instead of Smartphone right ?
What applications are you trying to run that required the phone to be app unlocked ?
Since i upgraded to WM6 i have not had problems with app unlock
If all fail why dont you just edit the registry your self by:
HKLM>Security>Policies>Policies
value = 0000101B DWORD = 1
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well for now I'm just doing a few tests with some app I developed and it just won't let me run it because it's unsigned..
I installed the cab file that automatically adds that key, restarted the phone and then I made sure it was there, and it is..
any ideas why it's not working?

try this:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies001001 has a value of 1, NOT 2

sahmedkh said:
try this:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies001001 has a value of 1, NOT 2
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tried that and tried changing the value of 00001005 from 16 to 40 as suggested on another site but it still didn't work...
this is really annoying... can you guys give me a list of unsigned apps that I can try just to be sure it's not my own app that isn't working?

Download Wm5 Storage which is the last application on the list, it requires app unlock
http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/MDAapps.htm

paypalbid said:
Download Wm5 Storage which is the last application on the list, it requires app unlock
http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/MDAapps.htm
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well I'm not sure if it worked or not... it installed but I don't see any new apps

unsigned apps
The Hermes Tweaker 1.1 has a check box that allows you to run unsigned apps. You might need that if I'm understanding what you wrote.

Hi,
I loaded up Jack_V3 ROM today and he pointed to your page to download the Manill HD cab to update the icons he used.
I notice above a similar message to the problem I am having below but I am installing the full package.
i am having a probelm with changing the Icons used back to the stock ones. I downloaded Touch-IT blackstone manilla but I get an error reporting:
the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions.
I have searched for hours and also tried Multiple Registry changes and HTweakC, SurrealNetworksAppUnlock etc.
Anyone, please shed some light as I have a call logged with my provider to get the phone unlocked. Is that the issue. PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE.

hispeed_mike said:
Hi,
I loaded up Jack_V3 ROM today and he pointed to your page to download the Manill HD cab to update the icons he used.
I notice above a similar message to the problem I am having below but I am installing the full package.
i am having a probelm with changing the Icons used back to the stock ones. I downloaded Touch-IT blackstone manilla but I get an error reporting:
the program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions.
I have searched for hours and also tried Multiple Registry changes and HTweakC, SurrealNetworksAppUnlock etc.
Anyone, please shed some light as I have a call logged with my provider to get the phone unlocked. Is that the issue. PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE.
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OK. Trying to go easy on this phone and not treat it too much like a windows box. Seem the more I refrain the more posts I have.
Seems that the other ROM had manilla.exe running. Killed that with the phone service and some others and the cab installed fine.
Hope that helps someone else. Hats off to the Developer.
Does anyone have a cab installer to change the clock to black on white? instead of the white on black.
Thanks guys

How to reset/change function of the "Home" hard key?

I know I should reflash the phone. But this happened to me with a few ROMs.
After some usage of the phone "Home" hard key was taking me not to the Home screen but to last Manila tab I was using.
For instance I press a Globe tab (Internet) -> Launch Opera browser -> Pres Home hard key -> ... And I'm back in Internet tab and not home screen.
The same behavior with the rest of the tabs.
Any ideas how to reset the function of Home hard key? Are there any registry entries which are responsible for that? I think it should be fixable.
Thanks.

Hi,
Just found a similar duscission: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493114
So sorry for doublepost.
Anyway - this didn't help for me I'm using Topix ROM. Maybe the solution worked with earlier Manila versions (Not Sense 2.1).
Any suggestions?

bullka said:
Hi,
Just found a similar duscission: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493114
So sorry for doublepost.
Anyway - this didn't help for me I'm using Topix ROM. Maybe the solution worked with earlier Manila versions (Not Sense 2.1).
Any suggestions?
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hi bullka
i just read youre story about the home button
im a new chef and whas wondering if i had the same thign whit my own rom
although im on sense 2.5 i have the smae thing:-o
i whas checking the repository of phone stuff i have and i found a fix for mine
i dont know if it will work whit manila 2.1 but you can definetly try
im not sure how it will react whit manilla 2.1 but on my rom sometimes it opens homescreen immidiatly and sometimes it takes about a sec like the phone has to think what its supposed to do
but hack just try it and see what happens
extract the file in windows folder whit totalcommander and overwrite the excisting one
best regards
chris

miniterror said:
hi bullka
i just read youre story about the home button
im a new chef and whas wondering if i had the same thign whit my own rom
although im on sense 2.5 i have the smae thing:-o
i whas checking the repository of phone stuff i have and i found a fix for mine
i dont know if it will work whit manila 2.1 but you can definetly try
im not sure how it will react whit manilla 2.1 but on my rom sometimes it opens homescreen immidiatly and sometimes it takes about a sec like the phone has to think what its supposed to do
but hack just try it and see what happens
extract the file in windows folder whit totalcommander and overwrite the excisting one
best regards
chris
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Thanks for your help. I will try that.
Yesterday I did some reflashes and now the problem is solved. So I wait until next time my Home button fails and will try your fix.
Thanks again!

Heh.. it happened to me once again. Even after reflash - the problem still exist. It reapeared after phone crash (or self reset).
I tried to overwrite my dll with yours, but WinRAR says - access denied.
What are other ways to do that?

Heh.. it happened to me once again. Even after reflash - the problem still exist. It reapeared after phone crash (or self reset).
I tried to overwrite my dll with yours, but WinRAR says - access denied.
What are other ways to do that?

bullka said:
Heh.. it happened to me once again. Even after reflash - the problem still exist. It reapeared after phone crash (or self reset).
I tried to overwrite my dll with yours, but WinRAR says - access denied.
What are other ways to do that?
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open the file whit total commander and extract it whit total comander to youre windows folder
maybe resco explorer could also work but not sure about that one as inever used resco explorer

Hi,
Seems that I found what was causing Home button to not function properly.
I uninstalled S2U2 (slide to unlock) and now my home button works properly.
No idea how this is connected. But the fact is that home button started to work after S2U2 uninstallation.
Would be very sad if it's really so that this bug is connected to S2U2. Coz I don't know what should I use instead of S2U2.

Help needed reverting back to WM6.1

Hi, if anyone could please help me i would be gratefull, i recently purchased a D2 but its already preloaded with WM6.5 rom version 2.53.405.5 (76952)WWE, But i really wanted WM6.1 as, among other things, i wanted to use the handwriting rec.
does anyone know what stock rom to reload? and where i can get it? sorry to ask such a basic question.
thanks in advance,

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=613

thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
it seemed to work, all the correct messages displayed
but......
now all that happens is it turns on, shows the touch diamond2 screen, then resets
it has the following text in red in the lower left hand corner
r 3 . 43. 25 .19
g 61. 20t. 25. 10U
d 1. 39. 47382
does any one have any ideas?

Try to hard reset.

tried that before i posted
and a soft reset, and another hard reset to be sure,
i searched the forum but couldn't find any reference to that type of error either.
any ideas on how to retrieve it from paperweight mode?

Download stock ROM for your region
Unpack it with WinRar or TotalCMD
Rename RUU_signed.nbh to topaimg.nbh
Copy topaimg.nbh on your SD card
Enter bootloader (hold volume down and turn on phone) and follow instructions
edit:I guess for wm 6.1 you need lower version of SSPL

thanks dude, i used the bootloader to reinstall the latest rom from HTC.
Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE_2.53.405.5_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship
my phone is no longer a brick however i am back to square 1 in that i still have wm6.5, and i want 6.1
ive tried to reflash with the older rom fighter7139 suggested
RUU_Topaz_HTC_WWE_1.39.405.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship
but it gives me the same rebooting error.
any ideas why wont the older rom work on my phone? or if theres an alternative to that rom ?
thanks

I've loaded hardspl 1.83 and extracted the file RUU_signed.nbh and renamed it to topaimg.nbhand,
i moved it to the SD card, reflashed the phone with the 6.1 rom,
but i get the same error.
any idea on what rom i should use to update from?
or what stock spl i'd need to run this rom's version of 6.1 ?

a thought
maybe i don't even need 6.1, all i want to do is to fix two things -
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
2) add handwriting recognition
- would also be nice to have the taskmanger icon, the battery icon and the original windows start menu back too, but im not dependent on them....
so i guess any rom would do that allows these functions, any help or info on this would be much appriciated

terminalkhaos said:
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
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Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3771519&postcount=2991
2) add handwriting recognition
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http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=0&dl_id=824

thanks for that, however that was the first thing i tried, i saw the download for the handwriting ap just after i got the phone, not knowing it didnt have it when i swapped from my diamond,
the thing is the update only works on certian AP version control builds -
the message on the site is -
Note: AP version control -> The criterion will pass if the Touch Input for Pocket is equal to Version 2.1 (Build1919.1320), or lower.
mines a higer version, which i assumed originally had to do with it being wm6.5 not 6.1,
- i have tried downloading and installing anyway but it wont load.
does anyone know how to get this update to load, or how to change the AP version control back to a lower version ?????
any help would be much appriciated.

if it matters,
i'm running Duttys HG, and ive flashed to hardspl,
i don't mind flashing back to whatever, i just really need the handwriting app

The handwriting SIP is likey hidden.
There is a reg edit to unhide, just search SIP Reg Edit and you should find it.
If I recall it was under the WM general tweaks.

thanks for that, i got the letter and block rec working, but still not the transcriber the reg key shows it should be showing, but i think the actual file may not be there,

fixed after changing the reg, and downloading the update, you then need this transcriber cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3661845&postcount=47732
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Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.

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Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.
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Start here.
Once you unlock your phone, you can flash to anything you want.
6.5 is hands down better than 6.1, there are 6.5.219xx builds that have the drop down start menu.

Thanks Bruce!
For some reason I couldn't find a good Pure forum, so that link helps a lot.