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Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
Very useful thread... one of many.
With some tweaks the HTC performs well. Even the battery.
kareem9nba said:
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
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True, but my Prophet and Trinity were not anywhere close to the level of "suck" that this phone comes to.
bakman said:
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
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3 days? which rom are you running?
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
yegor said:
Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
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so what ? return for refund, i`ll keep mine nothing change
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
It's just not performing poor.
Just installed HTC's own new 1.37 rom ... and see, it's a almost full functional device!
Fast, no lags (it's not a 3300 nokia!!) lots of usability, navigating, mailing, exchange, foto's, sound, browsing, the whole bunch in my pocket.
A lot of these topics, but I am glad i bought one
I must say battery life is very poor in music playback with set of stereo bluetooth hedphones, i get about 3 hrs max just using music and no phone calling etc. it seems to me that when the battery gets to the last 2 bars it doesnt last long at all. im on the latest rom, phone calling/sat nav and surfing via 3g doesnt seem to be that much of a problem to me battery wise. Ill be picking up the extended battery, i wouldnt swap this phone for any other though!
yegor said:
Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
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Just had a nice time reporting you (c)
Besides, he was right.. The phone is not as bad as you said, the things you said just prove that you don't know how to use it to it's potential, that's all...
Yes, I don't own a Diamond (waiting for the Pro), but from what I can see on this forum, for each 10 whining people, there are 50 or more who love the phone after tweaking it for themselves..
The topics like this are pretty much useless, as the only thing they contain is whining, but don't actually give anything useful
My regards..
P.S. You are russian, aren't you?
This is the best phone I ever used
With the reg tweaks here from the wiki the battery lasts about 2 days - I can live with that (remembering my "old" PDAs where battery lasts not a half day *ggg*). We wanted it full featured and slim - so we habe to live with this "battery issue".
But I ordered the extended battry from HTC yesterday - just in case
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This is the best phone I ever used
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/me cheers
IMO A2DP is going to drain the battery of any phone?
Whats battery life like on core player with corded headphones?
The rom that came with it (for most people) is slowwww.
A rush to get the phone out i think, but i think alot of people would have made that compramise - have the phone 3 weeks ago with a slow rom and be able to upgrade it around now.
Check the roms section you can find the official rom updates for each region there. You don't need to do any hard SPL modifications to use those, and therefore shouldnt affect your waranty. I would suggest that first.
Flaming is just pointless, and alot of people had the same thoughts at 1 point, i know i did!
I'm looking to get a Diamond and TBH find threads like this useful. I know its a Marmite kinda thing (love it or hate it) but it gives a indication of what the phone is like.
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
If he said the phone was one of the best ever made you wouldn't slate him and degrade him....so why do it otherwise???
Afterall its a Forum and peoples opinions are their own! Forums wouldn't exist otherwise!
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from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Thats a good price. If you dont mind me asking, how are you getting it for £230 Non Contract?
I have to say this is probably the most ocvered topic for every single HTC out there, I have had almost all production releases and everytime someone always states its the worst phone ever! truely this can't be the case.
There are phones that have been much worse and this is a PDA with lots of extras that why you pay more oh and the fact you purchased it so early. give it a chance with a newer rom.
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I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Where in the hell are you getting it for £230? Link please..
I know a lot of people have asked questions like which is the fastest rom? Who makes the fastest rom? etc... But what I'd like to find out is:
What do you mainly use your phone for? (EX: Work, Multimedia, etc..)
What radio works best in your area and what area you're in
Which rom do you find the fastest to suit your needs and your apps?
How does your use affect the battery? Is it dead in a couple hours? Or does it last a day?
What is your Threshold Pressure do you use? (For TouchFlo)
Do you prefer a port of a different device or a rom based off of the original kaiser roms?
Just a few questions. And if some people would please take the time to answer them.
Kraize
I'll go first.
I use my phone mostly for multimedia and school work
NIKI 1.58.25.17 and Stockton, California
I find Gullum's rom to be the fastest because I use ThrottleLauncher a lot.
The battery is mostly like on all other roms I've used. Will die in 4-6 hours if I let Wi-Fi or GPS run constantly. But it lasts a good day with a lot of calls, texting all day, and typing on it for long periods of time.
My Pressure for the Threshold is 400 (Default on Gullum's rom)
I actually prefer a port since HTC has been slacking on Kaisers lately =/
wrong forum
This should be in the Kaiser General forum, as it has nothing to do with rom development. There are plenty of these threads already, IMO, but if you MUST create a new one, please, please, please do it in the right place.
Lol my bad. I just noticed I posted it in the ROM developement >.<
let me just say this.
garmins final exceeded all expectations and is by far the best rom that i have ever used.
my current fave is romeos v4.1 w/ 1.58.xx radio for battery life. 1.65.xx is good as well.
i really liked Rottohammer's rom, but switched over to AkaDonny's because of the stability of no 10 second time-out back lighting.
tvos
What do you mainly use your phone for? (EX: Work, Multimedia, etc..)
study, have fun and general phone usage
What radio works best in your area and what area you're in
1.58.xx.xx works well, but 1.65.24.36 also works especially the gps signal is amazing. I am in Atlantic Canada.
Which rom do you find the fastest to suit your needs and your apps?
I should say ROMeos v4 but I return to v3.5 coz the vjtoggletoday won't work with v4. I am highly expecting v4.1.
How does your use affect the battery? Is it dead in a couple hours? Or does it last a day?
Battery consumption is a serious issue associated with new radios. But I guess the battery lasts one day based on my usage.
Do you prefer a port of a different device or a rom based off of the original kaiser roms?
a rom based on the original kaiser rom but combines some good features from ported roms.
Oh, where in Atlantic Canada my friend? Im in Saint John.
@dufferin
i am in Halifax NS, lol
the rom in my signature with this radio version is tha best rom ever between 6.1wm roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
After flashing 20+ different roms, Garmin DK1 Final has landed as permanent resident for my phone, with recommended 1.65.24.36 radio (this radio is amazing battery and gps performance wise) Battery lasts a solid 2 days of normal use and light internet browsing and aim chatting. (screen brightness set to lowest at all times)
Not much lag when flipping screen orientation, compared to my friend's stock at&t 6.0 rom which takes 3 times longer to flip despite registry and other tweaks.
I'm in Texas w/ TMobile service.
Okay thanks everyone I'll try Garmin and Hyper's roms. I currently use Gullum's and ThrottleLauncher flies like it's on crack with the D3D drivers.
Kraize
I am thinking of using a new rom, I haven't updated mine for about half a year or so and was wondering what you found worked best for you
I have been a big fan of Dutty's hybrid WM6.1 ROMs, but I have recently flashed to a few of Garmin's ROMs and I must say I am really liking his new DK.4.1 ROM.
Hi guys.
Have read many mixed reviews about this but was hoping a couple of you here would be able to confrm it.
As we know the battery life on the diamond aint that great, but I have read many mixed thoughts that a rom upgrade would improve the battery life. Is this true?
If so any recommendations on nice rom from the rom section we have on here?
I am currently running the original orange uk rom.
Many thanks, look forward to you replies.
My guess is that the changes are marginal at best, so save yourself from the trouble and order this, http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=166204
Its not marginal. It got me about 1 extra day of usage before i'd have to charge. I changed from original rom to Dutty's cooked rom.
There is also other benefits to changing roms, most important benefit would be speed. The cooked roms usually run faster and more smoother than the original roms.
Thanx guys, I will take a look at duttys.
Will the official upgrade from the htc site be any good?
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Thanx guys, I will take a look at duttys.
Will the official upgrade from the htc site be any good?
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Nope. Hmmm cooked firmwares generally remove some things which are not used EVER. Also it will clean up the software being ran on the background. And a few tweeks will be made to WM to make it run faster. ie. page memory, etc.
I think its the radio update that makes the most difference. I seem to get better battery life since 'upgrading' to 1.00.25.05 (upgrading is in quotes since my original version was actually higher than that). But then again i also upgraded to a cooked rom (AZTOR X2) so i got a double hit... Certainly very pleased with the extra speed and battery life!
the radio update is totally true. Ive read certain posts where people are getting atleast 3x longer battery using a different Radio.
Such as on one radio it will use about 8% overnight, where as on another radio within about the same duration overnight it will only use 2-3%.
would anyone be able to give me links to these roms and radio's. also a guide would be really handy
thanks
Jon
I'm interested of the rom that make battery life 3x longer...i'm actually using .16(BS), but i don't know if this one is the best.
The ROM i'm using drains the battery relatively quickly, compared to say the standard Sony O2 software. I'm going to a festival this weekend and want to preserve the battery for as long as possible so will obv use the advice given in threads on this, but any specific ROM that is best for not using up the juice? Cheers
If i were you i'd use the standart O2 Software then if you already know yourself it has good battery - otherwise just look around in the rom section
they say good things about touch-X 6
I am getting a little tired of the energy roms and Jackos roms draining the battery....i'm not looking for a fix, I want to know if a chef will cook up a rom that is similar to Chadsters e2 roms. I want something stable and very close to stock with task manager, youtube, google maps, etc. I'm really wanting this type of rom but all similar roms have been deleted. Thank You to anyone that helps out.
Try WCX 21916 w/Arcsoft. It's what you are searching for.
I want the htc messaging, idk why, I just really like it. I want it close to the stock 2.10 version with all the goodies.
Hi redwolf... The WC roms do have an HTC messaging version. They all work great, I'm a fan. Definately give one a go. You just need to decide 219XX (classic buttons) or 23XXX (bottom buttons). Both have HTC Messaging options. All the WC roms are fast, and have very good battery life.
Jackos rom drains your battery? Maybe your battery is bad my battery lasts like 2 days with Jackos rom
Battery Drain
No, I have two batteries. One was the original that was fine and another I got from a warranty exchange. I used Chadsters roms for a long time and had to switch to energy and/or Jackos, and my battery last at a max of about 11 hours. With chadsters, it would go for like 3 days without dying. Thank you for the advice and I will give the WC roms a try. Again, Thanks!!
Go try WC's roms. I've tried lots of stuff and I think they are the best for stabilty and speed. Don't expect bling, but expect a stock-like ROM that is better in every way. See my signature.
(and btw, there is an HTC messaging version)
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Sry, looks like from your last post that you are already on your way to trying a WC rom...
People seriously get days out of their batteries on these phones? I have two 2400 mh batteries that I swap in the morning and afternoon....it's not rom specific because I did the same thing with the stock rom...I figure it's a device usage issue...I use the thing a lot more than other people, I suppose....but really??....days out of their batteries?
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
My testers have all different kinds of usage with their phones...one uses 3g and wifi on constantly, others use 3g and sync emails every 5 minutes for work...so the testing has been very thorough in this aspect....
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GT247 said:
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
Wasnt implying anything, was just stating procedure we go through is ll...
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GT247 said:
Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
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If you want a specifics scenario with WCX 28148 Sense 2021 build :
I use a RHOD100 with 4.49.25.17 radio, with HSDPA enabled, dynamic screen backlight, 2 minutes turn off device, 10 minutes OTA Active sync, Opera backgrounded, Twitter and Weather updated hourly, and I reach 2 days after 2 full battery cycles after HR.
Note that radio's choice has a real impact on autonomy. .91 and .95 sucks around 30% more battery with the very same scenario.
Now, your autonomy will vary with your area coverage when you call. I phone at least 30 minutes a day, sometimes more, rarely less.
Hmm....I've never changed the radio from the original AT&T ROM...I've wondered if I should in the past but being new and stupid, I just figured that since I've never had signal issues and what not, I'd just keep the one I have (not to mention I don't know how to flash a new one...lol)...the one I have now is 4.48.25.20...
btw, I like hearing other's usage stats, I take and make a ton of calls...I remember my 900 minute monthly plan from years ago...and the 1400 dollar bill I got in a month for going over my plan limit...lmao, I forget how many hours of calls I had...but who wouldn't when the 1400 dollar number hits?