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I have been seeing a lot of 2GB SD cards for sale recently. Does anyone know if they work with the Wallaby line of XDAs, or are the Wallabys maxed out with the 1GB SD cards?
Hmm. I guess no one has tried one yet, and I am afraid I cannot afford to take the risk so will not be trying it myself. Ah well.
Bwah!?!
2Gb! The largest cards I have seen are the 1Gb cards, 2Gb would be very handy if they work.
Hello, I've a 2GB in my XDA1 working quite well. But you should format the card in a CardReader for PC then your XDA can handle the 2GB size. You cannot format the card in your XDA.
Greetings Chris
works well with my xda2...heard that they're already developing (if not released) a 4gb card though...
4 gb cards are out and about,. friend got one for his jasjar - didn't work though (card was faulty - nothing to do with the jasjar!)
when you say "didn't work" does it mean that the machine couldn't access the card? or did it simply not recognize the card or hung trying to access the card? well, that makes me have second thoughts on getting one of them 4-gb cards...
Guys, I know this has been asked before - I just cant seem to find a conclusive answer. But here goes;
Will a SDHC 4GB SD card work on my Blueangel with Helmi's BA WM2k5 AKU3.5 (v.1.4 )? Has anyone got one working?
Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
Thanks for that, tho I gather the SD"HC" cards are different to the standard SD and not all devices are compatible (same form factor, just something about transfer rate / capacity / Fat32 file system etc)
Is anyone using a SDHC card in their WM% Blueangel?
As I can understand, there are some 4GB SD - non SDHC cards. Google for TS4GSD150. Or read this: http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/index.html#special-sd.html - section "SD and SDHC Card Size Overlap"
Yeah I am aware of that (non SDHC 4GB cards) Situation is that I bought a 4GB SD (not SDHC) card online and it was DOA (not just in my BA, but in readers etc)
Supplier has just emailed me offering to replace it, but do I want a SDHC at no extra cost blah blah....and I am thinking, why not if it will work.
So, again...has anyone used a SDHC in their BA?
You can get it, and if it doesn't work on BA you will have a good excuse to buy a new smartphone...
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Hi J_Hutt
I have a 4gb SD card in my BA and it works just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
Untill reading your question and the wikipedia page above, I wasn't aware that my 4gb card was an SDHC card. My card does not show an SDHC logo, but from that wikipedia article it seems all cards >2gb are SDHC (1024byte blocks as opposed to 512).
We are of course at the mercy of wikipedia here though, its information is not always perfect.
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Hi thingonaspring,
which card you have (brand, model..)? I would want to buy a 4gb's card for my Q9090. What I can buy?
Thx
Bb
4Gb SDHC card doesn't work
Not that long ago, I bought a 4Gb SDHC card and not knowing about SDHC (thinking it was another marketing term) and even though it was working fine in the cheap card reader on my desk, it did not do anything in my BA.
Went back to the supplier and switched it for a regular SD card and that one has been working fine since.
SDHC cards
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
Thx.
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They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
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That's a bit shortsighted IMHO, 32 gb isn't all that much these days.
i found this when i was searching. If anyone found a regular 8 GB SD card please post it here, i'll be tempted to buy it for sure because it seems like thats the best way to go. Overall if you do get the BA to accept this type of card it wont be compatible in other older devices thats currenly out now. So i think buying a SDHC Card isn't a good investment right now.
But please don't let me change anyone's mind, I'm just looking for a good investment right now.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=251468&pid=802703&st=0&#entry802703
SD Card info ... from the Windows Mobile Team ...
Everything you wanted to know about SD Cards, but were afraid to ask:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
The SD Standard used by the PPC phones at present does not support larger than 2Gb by definition. However, some 4Gb SD Cards will work in the BA, but this depends solely on the block-size which is being used by the cards.
Your mileage may vary ... try before you buy, and if you do find a 4Gb or an 8Gb one which works (and gets 8Gb of storage - not overlapped!!!) then post the brand/make/model here, as I'm sure many people would love to take their music collection along - a.la.ipod style ...
I have a knockoff SanDisk 4Gb from ebay that works in my BlueAngel (wm2003SE)
I also have the Transcend 4gb 150X card that worked fine. The card itself has problems, which is why I swapped to the knockoff.
beware that some usb readers are not able to deal with 4gb SD cards (notably the Lexar 12 in 1)
If your reader is IDing the card as 900 and change MBs your reader is struggling try another.
I have had no problems with the HTC unit and the cards. The transcend was messing up the same way in the device and every reader I threw at it...
Good luck
Gil
EQUANCY said:
SDHC cards are 3d generation SD card technology,
They have some abilities,
1 to 32 gb capacity
Improved read and write speed,
Data stability,
Content encryption etc..
This technology requires hardware support which device will use, there is no software support. ( Except USB 2.0 cardreader used computers. )
Don't buy SDHC cards, there is already normal 4 gb SD card from SanDiskand kingston, and future 8 gb will coming.
Thx.
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Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
What is incorrect?
JKR said:
Incorrect, I just posted about this. SDHC format can handle much more storage than 32 GB, however there are physical theoretical limits to flash memory, just like there are those for CPU's. My post
Regards,
Jason
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There is no incorrect comment.
SDHC is an 3 generation NandFlash technology.
Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time,
Mean of limit is Secure, stable and usable.
May be some firms reached this limit (however you know more than 32 gb I don't now) but not this time.
There is only 8 gb cards on sale and 16 and 32's are coming in 2007-8.
Why i write 1-32 gb?
Because, there is no 512 mb SDHC but well 1 gb SDHC, you may find it.
What is SDHC, why not compitable with standart SD cards.
#1) Disk write and Read functions and commands are changed, New SDHC cards can write upto 6-10 mbps to disk and 50-80 mbps Read from disk. ( I sad disk them, they have no unique name ). This differents come from his hardware structure -->> I/O Busses, Voltage levels, frequenties and other reasons.
#2) They have a chip, he manage reading and writing operations, they have no processor, may you say DCU ( Data Controlling unit, that is mine ID ).
#3) They developed with NandFlash 2.0 technology, This is third of Nano Sized Memory blocks technology. ( You may find somethings about it ).
At the and.
SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )
if you want to buy SDHC, be sure the compatibility.
Blueangel's SD 1.1 slots have 1.2/12 mbps speeds ( Write/Read )
"This is not maximum speed of SD 1.1 they reached 2.1/25 mbps on USB 2.0 cardreaders."
The numbers may be some wrong, but be sure they are nearly values.
And lastone.
CPU's are not simple units. And they have so much parts.
You may find somethinks like of this comments in the Internet.
Just search it.
Come on ppl buy buy buy
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=8+gb+sd+card
Just leave one flash drive and the 8GB combo for me. When your done just let us hear the reviews
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There is no incorrect comment...Now, The limit is 32 gb at this time
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Well perhaps "incorrect" was a bit harsh. It all depends on where you get your info. here lists the ultimate capacity under the new memory addressing scheme as 2 TB. Where as here the maximum size is listed as 32 GB. Now I did mention that there are physical limitations of flash memory, and may not be able to reach the 2 TB limit, but under the SDHC standard, 2 TB is supported.
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SDHC cards are not compitable with SD 1.0 and 1.1 platforms, not like bluetooth 1.0 and 2.0, there is no old format support. ( No one has been sad yet )...
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This is what I had read also. I had done some little investigation into this a few months back, so I'm no stranger to searching the web, and had done so back then and once again. With that said, the second link above actually had some new info. It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible. Where as what I had read sometime back, was that there were legal restrictions imposed by the SD group to prevent this. Perhaps this has changed now. Well I suppose I may be defending a bad premise, because to be honest, when I had originally searched about SDHC, I didn't come across the 32 GB limit. And I suppose I could have been more specific about what I was referring to in your post.
Regards,
Jason
Good but...
This is mine last post about SDHC.
32 is Maximum reached SDHC capacity at this time, 2 TB is only theorical limit.
When someone make 2 TB SDHC then you can say the upto 2 TB capacity.
May be 2 TB SDHC's will come in future, then we can talk about 2 tb.
This is an example:
Intel goes to 45 nm technology, and that give a way to 8 or more core processor and upto 3 ghz per core speed without Netburst technoloy.
"Can you say there is already 8 core processor with 24 ghz total speed?"
You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards.
I write somethings about SDHC, because someone can buy them, this tech useless for our PDA's, i want help people. Because
I'v got so much help here,
May we can use SDHC's in nexttimes with external adapters or converters as SD.
May be...
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...You sad:
"It lists SDHC readers as being backwards compatible"
1-I sad about cards, not readers.
2-I sad SD 1.0 and 1.1 slots are can not use SDHC cards, I didn't sad SDHC Cardreaders can not read SD cards...
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I wasn't correcting you when I said this, I was correcting my statement that there was no compatibility. I had read at one point that there was no backwards compatibility (for legal reasons), but it looks like they changed that. but I will say that technically there aren't any 32 GB SDHC cards either. It is just a matter of what the question is asking, what is the largest capacity in development vs. what is the largest capacity possible.
Regards,
Jason
Hey guys i just bought the 8GB SDHC card and the flash drive reader/writer that comes with it.
It will take about two weeks in shipping for me so i'll keep you guys inform of the type and where i bought it from.
It's simple: I'm looking for an SDHC-support update/hack/driver/other for Blue Angel (Qtek 9090).
Can anybody help me?
Yes, it's rather easy: sell BA, buy sth that supports SDHC out of the box.
More complicated solution: wait until more devices will support SDHC, then sell BA and buy it.
So far we can forget about update of drivers to support SDHC and, what is more probable, device itself is not capable of suppoorting SDHC.
Thanks for you respons even though I don't like the sound of it.
Nothing at all I can do to get my Blue Angel på support SDHC? Nothing?
For sure something can be done
1. Write driver that supports SDHC, if chip inside is capable of reading SDHC cards. If not:
2. Unsolder reader and solder a new one in it's place, that supports SDHC for sure. Then write driver.
In both cases it will be easier and cheaper to just buy new deivce.
BTW: yo you know, that BA reads easily 4GB SD cards, that are not SDHC (a bit out of standard, but still possible)? Maybe it would be enough for you?
Ok. I'll sell the 8 GB SDHC-card and buy another (not HC) SD-card.
Thanks...
From all the technical datasheet I've gathered so far, it's all in the drivers.
Not even the device reader's firmware.
Right now I'm just waiting for a WM5 device that fully supports SDHC so we can lift the driver out of it, but that chance of that is slim as they'll all most liekly be WM6. Anyway, there is a possibility and I'm not giving up that easily.
So when is it possible for a sdhc-driver for Blue Angel to come out? Soon or should I sell my 8 GB SDHC and buy a 4 GB SD?
If you want to have more flash on your BA, you should buy no-SDHC card. Even it there will be any device on WM5 that reads SDHC, there is little chance it will work correctly in WM5 on BA.
And chances of having new device on WM5 are also lower and lower, as WM6 is the mainstream today.
8gb SD
My 8GB SD card (not SDHC) does not work in my BA.
Anyone know if a driver has been released?
Forget about driver. So far.
Where have you bought 8GB SD that is not HC? Any links?
What reader it is compatible with this (rather odd) thing?
8GB SD
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?
Does the Athena support SDHC?
AbuGWM5: I don't think there can be SD card that is both SD and SDHC compatible. It's like having a partition formatted both Fat32 and EXT2 at the same time.
hardingt0110: This is BlueAngel forum, isn't it?
The only non HC 8 gig SD cards are MMC. These can be made to work with driver support. It's all in the data transfer. Here's all you ever wanted to know about SD cards http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/88442-8-gb-card-hunting-tips.html
AbuGWM5 said:
fleabay are selling 8gb sd cards.
The readers are sdhc and sd compatible.
prices are around £45 incl reader + del.
what are the chances of a 8gb sd driver?
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I just looked on ebay (US and UK) and all the 8 gig SD cards I saw were SDHC. Have a link to one of these cards that are not SDHC?
8gb SD
Here's the link to the 8gb SD card:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150X-8GB-OEM-...yZ122613QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry for the mis-understanding: i meant 8gb SD card with a reader that is compatible with SDHC.
MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
PS buy at your own risk from the above seller he is very slow with delivery approx 4 weeks from USA and his cards may not be x150.
If you really want this 8gb sd card pm me if you'd like to purchase from me.
"8GB Secure Digital™ SD SDHC"
That card will not work in the BA, it's an SDHC card.
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MMC just stands for multi-media card. So any memory card falls into that category.
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MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard
mmc sd
jakubd said:
MMC is registered name of MultiMediaCard standard, that is separate from SD (but usually compatible), MemoryStick, CompactFlash and other standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard
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Thanks jakubd
And, SanDisk also provides a USB reader (looks more like a very cheap version of an USB Stick...
I paid around US $ 150
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Same brand but 4 GB, works like a charm
Bundled with MicroSD -> SD and SD -> USB adapter
36€ (~ 50$)
See my previous post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350801
Just thought I'd add that I purchased an 8Gigabyte ScanDisk Card (with USB adapter) for just over £50 (GBP) - $100 (US) and it work like a dream - no access delay and just under 8GB of available space.
I've also heard that ScanDisk are due to release a 16GB version in early 2008?
http://www.directsaleschat.co.uk/dev...sk-157056.html
Hey,
did you need any software update in order make an 8GB card running on XDA STAR. I'm just coming from an O2 store and they gave me an extract of a spreadsheet were they listed the xda star under 2GB max. storage devices.
Any comments?
Cheers,
Yves
I bought the SanDisk Card, just pop it in and everything is set.
Best
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It didn't work in my HTC Touch Dual!
I bought a 8GB Sandisk Micro SDHC card... put it in my Touch Dual... and bam... No more than 2GB.
How can that be?
Alusan said:
It didn't work in my HTC Touch Dual!
I bought a 8GB Sandisk Micro SDHC card... put it in my Touch Dual... and bam... No more than 2GB.
How can that be?
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eh? that's worrying, I've an 8gb one coming this week!
8GB Sandisk working perfectly in my Uk T-Mobile Touch Plus. No issues seen at all with it.
Well... My problem here is... Is it the Flash Card that is ****ed up or is it that I have the only Touch Dual in the whole world that doesn't have the capabillity to read 8gb Micro SDHC cards.
I have used a storage tool program to figure out the cards specs(Computer can't read it through the SD adaptor for some reason) and here is what i got:
Total: 1.8 GB
Type: Fat16
Sector Size: 512 Bytes
Cluster Size: 32 KB
For what I know, this should be a Fat32 because Fat16 can't have storage space beyond 2 GB.The rest I don't know because I haven't researched this enough to get a science degree. I have tried to format the card to Fat32 with several Cluster Sizes with no result in getting a bigger storage space.
At some point this seems like a 2GB but on the outside it looks clearly like an 8GB card. So if this is a fake, then it is a pretty damn good one.
What do you think?
slight aside, but madly, i have to pick the card up from the post office depot - how BIG can that parcel be??!!
I've been using an 8GB Sandisk card in my Niki (borrowed from my Kaiser) for a week now. Works fine ...
yup, finally got mine, and no issues!
Alusan said:
Well... My problem here is... Is it the Flash Card that is ****ed up or is it that I have the only Touch Dual in the whole world that doesn't have the capabillity to read 8gb Micro SDHC cards.
I have used a storage tool program to figure out the cards specs(Computer can't read it through the SD adaptor for some reason) and here is what i got:
Total: 1.8 GB
Type: Fat16
Sector Size: 512 Bytes
Cluster Size: 32 KB
For what I know, this should be a Fat32 because Fat16 can't have storage space beyond 2 GB.The rest I don't know because I haven't researched this enough to get a science degree. I have tried to format the card to Fat32 with several Cluster Sizes with no result in getting a bigger storage space.
At some point this seems like a 2GB but on the outside it looks clearly like an 8GB card. So if this is a fake, then it is a pretty damn good one.
What do you think?
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You have to format the card at FAT32, which goes at 32 Gb. With FAT16 you only see 2Gb.
I don't know if you can do this format in the HTC, otherwise you'll need a new reader for sdhc-cards.
Thank You... I got a New SDHC reader/writer and formatted the card with the Panasonic SDformatter from a link through this forum. It worked and I now have my delicious 8GB storage in my Touch Dual.
Never seen such beautiful 8GB in my life
8Gb works in mine as well
Hows the speed when accessing aps on the 8 gig? is it just as fast as using a 1 gig?
in light of this topic, could you guys suggest anything for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383791
Oh well no answers, anyway, my 8gb is here and is working very well
Oddly enough, I'm having problems even with 1 and 2 gig cards. Or rather with active sync, not detecting them. I can't transfer files directly to storage card folder via activesync, I have to either transfer to the device first and then from the device to the card, or transfer directly to the card after taking it out of the nike..
It might be something simple, anybody has any ideas how to solve this? Searched for quite a long time and couldn't find anything..
It's an orange brand niki if that changes anything, btw.
well if any 1 wants to save i found a 8 gig for 37.99 plus shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012Y2LLE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top#productPromotions
I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks
i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable
Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??
Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card
I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.
Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.
4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.
I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.
As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?