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Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?
I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.
I use tomtom and find it great.
i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..
I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.
Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC
I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.
With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.
southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.
MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
UnicornKaz said:
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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dai_white said:
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html
I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...
I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.
I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.
technillion said:
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard
Which Nav Soft you use, and why do you like it?
CoPilot Live 7 - 'nuf said.
Wow Scilor, you are a brave man. This has been asked many times, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=best+nav+software&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images. Not sure if a poll has been taken though. The BEST is very subjective. Maybe a better question is "what do you use". In any case, I am running away fast before the bombs come.
i like TomTom 7...i used iGo8, but its not so great, it just looks great...i am in LA, where there are plenty of buildings, but there arent any buildings for igo 8 so its kinda pointless
I have four good ones, but decided on Garmin
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
errrr all of them and a few more depending on what I am doing and where I am going.
EG: If I am running an off road route in my 4x4 TomTom is niether use nor ornament as it's simply all green on the map. So I use MemoryMap.
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exzist78 said:
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
Destinator 7, like it cause the maps are really accurate...
No, not noticeably...
I say this with a condition however; TT7 does seem the smoothest (rerouting, staying consistant, etc) however, it is slight. I noticed the iGO8 actually tends to have more laginess than the others; surely, because of the great maps and user interface. Yet, again it is slight at most, nothing too bad. I have used them both on Leos Roms (V_9), and on ROMeOS v4...As far as the Garmin version, I installed the 2009 Version, it loaded something like v. 40010w.exe; however, you can update this from the Garmin site to version 42050w.exe; they claim many improvements from the first file i have listed until the last. If you do update, I found the easiest way to accomplish this is by first installing the older version, connecting through WMDC, then updating the software that way...Good Luck...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
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Im using AutoMap5. Its great for Poland and Europe.
Video - credits goes to author
This moment I have Navigon: it does exactly what it supposed to do, easy to use. Great forum for tricks and tips, only German. Befor Navigon I had TomTom but I refuse to buy a new product of them. (I bought a new release and within a month they simply told the pda wasn't supported anymore so I had nothing exept a empty pocket.No discussion possible.)
Nav4all....
not the best... but very, very free.
tt6 and iguidance both work great.
TOMTOM is my choice!
TTN7 FTW; the best by far IMO.
I use TT6
it was on my Kaiser
Garmin has a wonderful interface - very easy to use, finger-friendly, and functional. It also consistently locks onto a GPS signal in less than 20 seconds.
The only other app. I've used is iGuidance, which had plenty of issues:
Slow GPS lock
Clunky interface
Sluggish performance
Wait lol...Deffinetly the guy who said Nav4all is a good gps app is smokin crack...that gps app was the first gps prog I ever used ..and it was only cuz it was free and I didn't know diddly about TomTOM and that people had actually extracted it and posted it on xda..and first things first... Nav4all is like a cheap european hooker version of a gps application. The people who made that thing really must not of liked themselves..its a kmart version o what gps software should be..I never used an app that lacked everything gps software is supposed to have..it was bare bone..it could only locate maybe half of a satelite and had no turn by turn..no poi..nothing.........
But anywayz TomTom7 is by far the best and user friendly gps software out there..and u guys that are still using TT6...geezus just upgrade to TT7...why wouldn't u? such a better upgrade believe me. And for the people who don't like how the map colors look..just PAY for the more expensve colored maps and search around ull find something u like..I mean I hear that IGO and Garmin are "pretty" looking gps maps and all , but their defintely not as user friendly, as detailed and as easy to use...and im 100% sure theres nothing out their as precise and as accurate as TT7. TOMTOM7 has no lag whatso ever...and the estimated arrival time and when u actually get too the location are accurate to a T!. I mean it can't get any bettter...so until I see other gps software becoming as accurate as TOMTOM, I doubt a lot of us will be switching gps software anytime soon, just look at this simple forum poll...I mean iphone users are dying for TT to be available for the iphone..which I doubt It will be, those flunks are stuck with piss on me googlemaps Lol....
anywayz goodluck on finding a gps software u like, this is my 2 cents on it.
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
Shub-Niggurath said:
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
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Sorry for little OT, but
Wow, Lovecraft lover here?
Guys,
Anyone got a good solution for GEO Caching with my Kaiser? I would really like to leave my other GPS home and still head for some caching sites for some afternoon or weekend adventure. Any thoughts?
Geoscout kicks butt, by FAR the best one out there. I'm very impressed by the fact that it syncs (Live) with Geocaching.com, if you post a log in the field, it's updated instantly on the web site.. Very cool...
Check it out:
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod5640731
Geoscout is seconded as the most popular solution, but there are other polished solutions also.
Check this article Geocaching with Windows Mobile.
Dont forget to switch off Static navigation.
Surur
Only problem is the Kaisers GPS isn't that good so you might have some issues with that.
I found zero Geocaching software for Windows Mobile that was worth using for the actual navigation/finding, period... Even bypassing the built-in GPS for all its fault and using my bluetooth GPS unit, none...
GeoScout is good for on-the-go data, but not the caching itself... BeeLineGPS seemed okay, but its radar screen and some other things are just.... wacky.
If nothing else, I'd say try BeeLineGPS..
My solution? I went back to using what I used on Palm, which works perfect, consistent, and I already had a very solid solution set up for getting the data files set up and ready for me to update at an time.. GeoNiche. I run it in StyleTap, and it works great.
Big problem is that GeoNiche + Styletap would run around $75. I already owned GeoNiche, and had some other stuff I also owned from Palm apps, so Styletap made a lot of sense for me.
Good luck with anything else.. I really gave BeeLine a good try, and many others (Smache, GPStuner, GPXSonar, CacheMate, etc) and just hated the navigation on all of them and the data import/update facilities for most of them.
PathAway is one I kept, but I am using it the same way I did on the Palm, and that is for hiking and marking POIs related to that. I considered trying to use it for Geocaching but it never suited me in that role on the Palm so I didn't give it another try for it.
I've been using Backcountry Navigator. I like that it allows me to download topo maps from within the program.
But I agree with austinsync, the GPS doesn't seem very good. It seems to be about 20-30 feet off from my Garmin unit, and is slow to update. It's good for finding where you are when hiking or boating, but not really good enough for Geocaching.
I second Beeline. I only wish it had maps.
As for the accuracy, I suggest trying different Radio Roms. My current Radio (1.58.25.17) works best for me. I'm usually within 5 ft of my friends Garmin. Other radios, I've been off as much as 60ft.
Great info guys.
Thanks for all the posts guys. I looked at GEOScout which is working quite well, but holy crap $40 Ouch! I'm going for Beeline next and then Backcountry navigator.
I am completely fine with the accuracy of the GPS as I prefer a challenge when caching anyway. I have also seen the radio set make a huge difference in how far off it is. I am currently using NEON 1.65.24.35 radio and is seams VERY close to my buddies Garmin (he's pissed cuz he bought a very expensive Garmin that made my Kaiser look cheap ).
Keep them coming, I want to find as many as possible so I can find the one that works best for what I'm doing. You guys are awesome for not giving me the usual "google it answer", That's awesome!
Sorry NEON for putting wrong radio info
My setup:
CacheMate (http://www.smittyware.com/ppc/cachemate/) to store information about the caches and to pinpoint the exact location of a cache. I usually build a pocket query and import the GPX file into CacheMate. When out cache-hunting I start off using Garmin (see below) and when I'm close to the cache I switch to CacheMate's compass window which tells me the distance and direction to the cache.
Garmin Mobile XT to locate the cache on a map. I've loaded Garmin with a map made for outoor life (i.e. not driving) that shows elevation, paths, swamps etc. What makes Garmin great for geocaching is that with a browser plugin you can send the location of a cache from geocaching.com directly to your Kaiser via the ActiveSync connection.
Hi
I had success caching with Tracky http://www.trackthisout.com/. It allows searches of nearby caches, you can download full page descriptions, and uses google maps. I found the GPS to be accurate enough. Sometime having an areal view can really help find the cache (Oh...THAT tree!). It takes a while to get used to, but once you have got it it does work really well.
It has been a bit buggy lately, but support is good. There is a free trial.
I have Google and WLS installed on my tilt, and i do like them. However, what options do i have for a GPS software that provides voice directions?
Not wanting to spend a bunch of money here, but if my options are limited, i would still like to hear them.
Thanks!
I use Tom Tom. It gives rather good turn by turn directions.
Hi,
I have tried TomTom V6 and V7 and also I-Go8.
All 3 are good products and these are my own 'key points':
TT6=Legal,out of date maps and won't get better.
TT7=Legally grey for the app ,but you can buy legal maps-which is what TomTom have always charged for-modern maps (01.08 if V7.20) and is likely to be so for a while yet.
I-Go8=Legal (but you may have to import it as it still is like hens teeth here)
,modern maps (01.08),likely to be supported.
TomTom (both)-basic interface,runs fast on older PDA (WM2003+),good routing.Instruction format=in 100m turn lef,turn left (at exactly the correct time),instructions at roundabouts are concise.
I-Go-'prettier' interface and possibly a little more powerful,3d landscape can be of use but 3d buildings are in my opinion a gimmick,a little slow on less powerful PDA,sound routing,shows the next 2 manoevers,with 3rd party skins easy to modify options.Instuction format=in 100m take the 3rd left,take the 3rd left about 30m from turn (this is the last instruction),display lags by about 1 second so this is logical.Instructions as you approach roundabouts are in my opinion a little verbose
Choices-I keep swapping between the two as they are both strong products and I can't really decide which is 'better'
Do they work-Yes
Are they up to date-tt6,no-tt7 yes,and I-go yes
Cheapest-TomTom
Nobody can give you a definitive answer on the 'best' software,so pay your money and learn to live with the foibles these programs all have.
Clear as mud?
Ashley
do you get the tomtom software if you buy an actual tomtom? I assume you cjust buy the disc, but does it come with the actual gps unit? My dad bought one ways back, and wondering if he got the software with it.
I think the s/w is hard wired into the TomTom devices,but can be updated by official downloads
Ashley
okay, i don't have a cd, but i do have North America maps which is what i want. So, that leads me to my question, is there some generic installer that gets the tomtom shell on the tilt phone?
I tried a few on the wiki page, and when i truy to install the exe, i get a message on the phone saying Incorrect Rom. So, i assume i need a cooked ROM on my phone to install the ones on the wiki.
I checked tomtom website, and see nothing.
I think you are starting to skate very close to discussing illeagal/unapproved software,please be very careful.
Ashley
Im sure this will be easy for you guys. I have a 8125 now with live search on it. My question is if I upgrade to the tilt, is there a way I can use the gps without being charged? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance
a gps don't use the phone it get signals from satellites
so it don't cost anything
but of cause if you use gmaps for navigation it will cost
but if you use tomtom or garmin program and maps you
don't even need a sim card in the phone
The Wizard is cool, but the Tilt...
Hi there,
I use Google Maps...if you pay your provider for internet access (like PDA Connect or MediaNet Unlimited...search on those if you don't know the truth!) then it won't cost you anything more.
There is a clause in the Google Maps program that says not to use it while moving, and I'm still unclear myself as to the exact reasons why, so at least be aware when you are doing something you're 'not supposed to' do...but it works just fine, is EASY to use, has broad general search capabilities, incorporates their Satellite View and practically real-time Traffic info.
If you do NOT pay for internet access (although I strongly suggest taking advantage of the 3G on the Tilt) you can use a 3rd party app like TomTom, Garmin and many others.
I also have DeLorme's Street Atlas 2007, but it does not support the GPS built into the Tilt, I have an external BT GPS for that.
The latest version of Street Atlas has...I believe...addressed that issue and should work fine.
And there are a TON of other GPS programs out there that have many subtle differences to suit whatever your needs are...search the Kaiser > Software Forum and you'll find people who love and hate almost every one of them available. Installing most of them on the SD is more efficient, but some are small enough to put in without one.
The Tilt also has Quick GPS that, when updated regularly, speeds up the satellite acquisition time for the GPS effectively...I usually get a lock within 10-15 seconds, but it does take longer on occasion. Quick GPS downloads info from the Net, so you would need access to utilize that function.
I too had a Wizard before the Tilt...and I liked it alot...but the 3G, the GPS, the 3MP Camera...and THIS FORUM!...have taken me to a point where I LOVE my Tilt, and...although I can 'upgrade' now to a Fuze...I don't think I can get a better phone without going outside my Provider Dealer (AT&T thru Hawk Electronics).
Search the Kaiser Forum for GPS, look specifically in the Software section and I think you'll find more than enough info to help you make your decision.
If you do make the switch, I'd keep the Wizard and start playing with Cooked ROMs and Software so you can get acquainted with the process. What you can do with the Tilt on this Forum is only limited by the time these guys have to tweak.
For what it may or may not be worth, my opinion is...get the Tilt!
Thanks guys, I plan on getting it and I have spb 3 so ill throw it on there right away