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What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD? The early previews look like it could really fix a lot of the current WinMo issues...but will there be an update for the HD?
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What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD?
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one hundred percent
That's what I was hoping to hear, thank you! Really hope Microsoft finally listens to the critics and does something impressive with v6.5 and eventually 7.
Wvga
For the real support 800x400 we have to wait for WM7.x
Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?
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Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?[/quote
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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WM6.5 ? Do not expect something from this... The only way to have a finger friendly phone is, imho, pointui 2...
Maybe WM7, but release at the end of the year... WM is again in late...
SatScan said:
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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Windows Mobile 6.1 supports WVGA already, so why 6.5 should not support it?
Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
Windows Mobile 6.5 leaks and skeptics'
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_mobile_65_leaks_and_skeptics_predictions_come_true-news-749.php
davideuck said:
Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
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On what device did you test it?
NeoS2007 said:
On what device did you test it?
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According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
johnpatcher said:
According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
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Obviously I'm on Blackstone
It's only a few builds up from the latest Blackstone ROM, so it is not even close to a beta or even the final thing.
and its loaded with original 6.1 stuff....
But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
NeoS2007 said:
But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
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That's a worderfull news!
Windows 7, Windows mobile 7 and office 14 are all very likely to be released at the same time, late 2009 / v.v.v.early 2010 latest January.
Yes, but as I've said for now all it's really buggy. The principal problem is that autorun doesn't work with this build, then many things releted to it don't work.
In addition, I've tried to use some of the cabs to make working the new WM6.5 today but for now it doesn't work, when I install them I do a soft reset then the device freeze before opening the today, same thing if I cook they directly into the rom. I've tried in different ways but for now nothing to do.
But I'll see what I can do in the next days.
the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here :[ Link removed due to it not being a "real/official" diamond2 dump... ]
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?
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the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?
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It's not. I bet it's a rom dump from Dutty's HD rom but it does have a lot of goodies in it.
its a dump from duttys
People have no respect! The community really should reject anyone using this dump without explicit approval from Dutty
i see... thanks for clearing that up guys...
but for real tho, when a real dump is out, would it be hard to port? or will the ball get rollin pretty darn fast?
I've been googling for about 5 or 6hrs and haven't found anything that is legit.... If i find something i'll post some links.
good lookin out bxsteez! thanks man
I just know a Diamond2 was stolen in MWC2009....
isnt it early to find a rom dump?
i thought these usually show up when manufacturers have their build from HTC or whatever. These should be based on WM 6.5 no?
My information about the diamond's 2 are that there are wm6.1 Prof. devices. If you want, It is possible to make an offical update to 6.5, so HTC on a video on youtube by the WMC.
cemetry
So was Dutty the one who stole the device from HTC's CEO?
There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.
Bxsteez said:
There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.
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have you had a look at jerpleleas kitchen? I'm downloading it now to see if it is the D2 rom.
I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.
Bxsteez said:
I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.
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It looks like it's got pretty much all the obtained rhodium stuff in it, mixed with some kovsky and and HD.
For novices it's sublimely easy to build with, literally one button and choose what apps you want..
Does have many of the same bugs Itjes B1 had, (contacts etc) and a load of custom icons which aren't to my tastes. but overall it's very very impressive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483703 (the 1.5.14)
Nice i'll try it when i get home. It doesn't happen to have the 21018 SYS does it?
OH wow there are so many different kitchens. I wonder how tfl3d from touch pro2 will work on windows 6.5 better than it does on 6.1...
Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."
It's a very good news , so now wait and see !
Hmm shouldn't we already have a version somewhere. What I mean is isn't someone already testing it?
Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?
Heefy said:
Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?
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Normally, such a great thing isn't just released, but there are RC (release candidates) beforehand. I don't know whether the WM6.5 roms here are already based on these release candidates, or if they are based on some real beta roms, but I guess there won't be any major differences.
What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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The alarm works in Miri V12, but you have to set the alarmtone in settings>sound&...>reminders instead of setting the alarmtone under clock.
doohh! Microsoft finished winmo 6.5 our miri finished 12 and i bet they all are better than the "original" one
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What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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now thats just being unnecessarily cynical!
what they meant to say was:
For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE (although we will update the build every 12 hours)... complete (apart from the missing bits)... looks really good (but Manila/spb/pointUI look better) IOHO and every bit functional (providing you don't wont everything to work) however the ONE thing we did do was fix the alarm (we think??).
at least its no a Google product it would be in permenant BETA if it was!!
forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!
THat is a VEry great news i cant wait for the new roms based on the new build(not beta at last)
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Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."
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Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.
but then nothing is perfect.
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forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!
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There is??
The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.
CheongKing said:
Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.
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When does anyone?
WinMo 6.5 Final & Dutty ??
Fallen Spartan said:
The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.
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Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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LoooL!!!! Very Fun!!!
purec0de said:
Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.
barbapappa_86 said:
I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.
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You are correct. He plans to take a rest now, possibly a week or 2 and then start working on WM6.5 rom. He has told me this before and released a rom within a week so I would keep an eye out as you never know with Throy. Complete workaholic!!
Hang on we're talking about a ported Core and build to a device that is obviously never intended to run it
I dont think there's such a thing as a "bug free" ROM! what bugs are we talking about?
The bare WM6.5 seems pretty damn good in terms or stability and bugs (bar the damn alarm issue) seems to me the main issues are when HTC Manila, dialer, album etc etc from other device are cooked in that the real problems occur and since they will never be compatible with HD how much more "bug free" will it get than now?
Is there any WM6.1 ROM that is "bug free"?
Hi there, there's a new Rom from Dutty, you can find it here:
<a href='http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_wm_leo_r_6d9ad31db5a4e9bad/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html'>Download Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5</a>
Just flashing her and let's see how it is.
Ciao
As always from Dutty, it's pretty rock solid.
Hope the master keeps developing for the HD now he has his new baby the Topaz!
Using it at the moment for about 4 hours...
..seems to be quite stable, and appears to speed up once Neos DriverPack 3 is installed. I have that plus Gfxboost v1.2 installed.
Newer icons, larger icons, twitter tab (not tested by me). Sms appears stable, although I haven't loaded a lot of smses in it yet.
Overall...a solid ROM
keopsjo said:
Hi there, there's a new Rom from Dutty, you can find it here:
<a href='http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_wm_leo_r_6d9ad31db5a4e9bad/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html'>Download Duttys HD WM6.5 Leo R5</a>
Just flashing her and let's see how it is.
Ciao
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Is it 6.5.0 or 6.5.1?
Edit: Found it, it's 23016 based. Not interested - "old" stuff.
a question for admin: why doesn't dutty post here anymore?
chainbolt said:
Is it 6.5.0 or 6.5.1?
Edit: Found it, it's 23016 based. Not interested - "old" stuff.
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it is the same WM which you will see on HTC LEO
cipi055994 said:
a question for admin: why doesn't dutty post here anymore?
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This is his choice and we have to respect it
chainbolt said:
Is it 6.5.0 or 6.5.1?
Edit: Found it, it's 23016 based. Not interested - "old" stuff.
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Indeed.
When you have had the startmenu att the bottom for a while its a pain in the ass going back to older builds.
Also... looking att the comments there it looks like the Twitter login problem is still there in that ROM.
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Indeed.
When you have had the startmenu att the bottom for a while its a pain in the ass going back to older builds.
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I share the exact sentiment!! Means this ROM is out for me, doesn't matter what works and what doesn't. Am happy with Miri Test 23053 at the moment until newer release.
nizzon said:
Indeed.
When you have had the startmenu att the bottom for a while its a pain in the ass going back to older builds.
Also... looking att the comments there it looks like the Twitter login problem is still there in that ROM.
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23016 is NOT finger-friendly(bottom buttons and WM menu) as 23047-49-53 etc so is not a good ROM.
23016 is finger-friendly as WM5(5 years ago) so, compared to iPhone and Android is a s..t
I totally agree with you guys. The newer start menu is addictive.
I wait and wait until there will be a ROM with 23xxx and manilla 1717 (sense).
How can anyone work with that new Start menu?
I tried it with a couple of ROMS and feel its just a mess. I never hit the right button, specially when you have apps that use a soft button for things like Exit, "X", etc. Just gets you confused
I can only hope MS never puts this in a final release!
I tried to ask a simple question as to why Chefs are sticking to 23016, but got it locked before any answer...
I have not tried the newer builds with the bottom more finger friendly environment, can you still use a task switcher ?
Chefs use 23016, because it's the official RTM and 100% stable version.
All newer versions are test versions and have bugs.
Hovever, I agree that the Start and OK buttons at the bottom are much better.
maati said:
Chefs use 23016, because it's the official RTM and 100% stable version.
All newer versions are test versions and have bugs.
Hovever, I agree that the Start and OK buttons at the bottom are much better.
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I doubt that 23016 is 100% stable -in particular not for the HD.
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How can anyone work with that new Start menu?
I tried it with a couple of ROMS and feel its just a mess. I never hit the right button, specially when you have apps that use a soft button for things like Exit, "X", etc. Just gets you confused
I can only hope MS never puts this in a final release!
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Like you, I used to hate the button Start Menu, but trust me, once you get used to it, you will know how addictive it is and will never wanna go back to the old top-left Start Menu, as you can see from various posts here.
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I doubt that 23016 is 100% stable -in particular not for the HD.
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I do agree as I was on 23016 for awhile. Had resisted the bottom Start Menu for sometime before I finally decided to give it another shot thanks to e-native Position Fix which helps the most in changing my impression of the bottom Start Menu. It is also nice that the new buttons are skinnable.
Personally I find the bugs in Manila 2.5 seems to over-shadow those of WM6.5, but we do see both evolving (with improvements?) as it gets nearer and nearer to the final release.
Great ROM Dutty!!!!!
Anyone know how to disconnet Data Connection after XXX minutes...???
Tanks,
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23016 is NOT finger-friendly(bottom buttons and WM menu) as 23047-49-53 etc so is not a good ROM.
23016 is finger-friendly as WM5(5 years ago) so, compared to iPhone and Android is a s..t
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Yeah, thats basicly what I said.
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Yeah, thats basicly what I said.
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Sorry!
I read wrong your post
hello
as i surfing other phone threads i saw many WM 6.1- MANILA 2.5 cooked rom for X1 TP2 and diamond2 and... is there any thing for Blackstone ? as in my opinion WM6.1 is much much faster than WM6.5. I almost tried all wm6.5 roms but they are buggy and slower than WM6.1.
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
The problem with the buggyness is not due to win 6.5 but Manila 2.5, the problems would be at least the same with 6.1.
I suggest u try some of the win 6.5 + manila 2.1 that there are around such as miri v30, they're very fast and very stable.
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the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Guess why? Because in contradiction to your opinion, almost everybody here regards WM 6.5 as fast, more user friendly, better looking, and bugfree.
As he said: Try 6.5 with Manila 2.1, because it is 2.5 that is slowing down things with the slow Touch HD processor, not 6.5.
yes . tried those V30 and V12 also. they are acceptable but not running smooth. I think Blackstone lack of drivers for WM6.5 causes that. they freezes randomly so not good for daily uses. I almost lost some of my important information using those roms but they are good things to experience things coming future! how ever I think manila 2.5 will run better on Blackstone. now I am switched to miri WM6.1 with manila 2.5 but the version of manila used there is older manila 2.5 one which is buggy and the rom is also discontinued.
-I am also thinking of overclocking the blackstone processor as the last solution since I damaged my htc prophet one because of overclocking
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...the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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for sure! I am now playing with this rom. its fast and smooth. manila is working as what it should be and smooth as i saw in the demo of HD2. however since this rom is discontinued the manila is rather old 2.5 one which having some problems. how ever i am now forget about some broken things and I am happy with this rom.
is miri V3.0 the only WM6.1 and Manila 2.5 available? is there is any other please provide me with the link. thanks
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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I agree with you. All WM6.5 ROM I tried are slower then WM6.1 ones.
Now I'm using Miri's WM6.1 Manila2.5 and it's fast, very fast.
I have also update some packages. The only bugs I've are: Facebook and Footprints. Also the default WM6.1 is very bad... but I'm working on it to replace with a third part action screen.
ReX
i agree, it is fast but it is rather old and have some bugs
can some one upload the ROM file and post the link here? the one on the official thread doen not have any free user download slots left.
please
khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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Hey, do you mind tell me which version you are using?
I'm using miri wm6.1 + Sense 2.5. I gotta say, I love WM6.1 better than 6.5. I find the battery life is better. Also, the speed is better than 6.5. I'm not saying 6.5 is slow, just 6.1 is faster than 6.5.
hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
People still use 6.1? There is a reason noone puts 2.5 on 6.1
Its so OOOOLLLLDDD. Live in the NOW! once you go kinetic you can't go back! Once you made that move the next one is clear, once you go 6.5.1 + 2.5 there is definitely no going back! Unless you don't commend appearance or usability high on your list.....then you can stick with 6.1
MAN UP, PUT UP WITH THE EXTRA FEW MILISECOND LAG WITH 6.5x ROMS AND ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS!
I am a fellow topix follower, but I love the new 6.5.1 far too much to worry that it takes a few more miliseconds to do things. BOOHOO
P.S, do you still use windows 95? Cos its ALOT faster than xp, vista, and windows 7. I use windows 7 cos it looks god damn gorgeous (and way more features lol) - catch my drift?
I get ur point.. but i still wonder why u r still on HD, i am sure there alot of newer phones out alreday. HD is so OOOOLLLLDDD!!!
anyways, everybody choose whatever they are comfortable with. I'll request you to refrain yourself from passing such remarks(n making such posts) on what others choose. Let them live in the primitive era if they wish to.. Rest its up to u.
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hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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the twitter tab is not working on this ROM, i want manila 2.5 for that only.
else i m very happy with my current ROM