so i just tend to be on the safe side all the time. but if i want to upgrade from JACHero 2.7.2 to 2.7.3 should i apply a wipe before flash?
what if it's 2.6.3 to 2.7.2?
i just plan to really follow the upgrades and am wondering if i need to wipe each time. or is it safe play to go without a wipe?
Its not really safe IMO. Just wipe and flash. If that fails make sure to reformat your ext and linux-swap partitions, fix filesystems, wipe, and flash
alrite, thanks ^^ glad i did that before i got to read this post.
No problem lol
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Is it 100% neccessary to wipe before updating a rom if its the same rom just a different version? Like I have cyans 3.6.8.1 and want to go to cyans 4.0.1
I'm just looking for some clarification on this matter. I know when you switch roms you want to but I haven't really seen anything concrete on upgrading roms. Any help would be appreciated
No, no, no.... you need to wipe when you use a bathroom, not when you flash software
People will hate me for this but... here it goes
We wipe to avoid problems with the new rom. We DO NOT know if we will have problems, good chance that we will NOT. I never wipe untill something goes wrong, and I was just fine for last 14-15 flashes.
Here's another way to think about it.... do OTA updates wipe your phone? Didn't think so.
Flash away. If you have problems then, and only then, nand back to your previous configuration, wipe, reflash. Don't wipe after flash... Cyan's roms don't like that AFAIK.
Good luck.
SlicedKuniva said:
Is it 100% neccessary to wipe before updating a rom if its the same rom just a different version? Like I have cyans 3.6.8.1 and want to go to cyans 4.0.1
I'm just looking for some clarification on this matter. I know when you switch roms you want to but I haven't really seen anything concrete on upgrading roms. Any help would be appreciated
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I heard somewhere that it's best to wipe when going from HTC rom to Google rom and vice versa. I know that for cyan's roms that if you rarely have to wipe (I had to wipe when trying out 3.9.11.*), but for the most part you won't have to (went from 3.4.6 to each update until 4.0.1 without wipe)
xidominicanoix said:
I heard somewhere that it's best to wipe when going from HTC rom to Google rom and vice versa. I know that for cyan's roms that if you rarely have to wipe (I had to wipe when trying out 3.9.11.*), but for the most part you won't have to (went from 3.4.6 to each update until 4.0.1 without wipe)
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At this point..the only HTC roms we have are Hero and that's a whole another story. Not only you have to wipe but also reformat your sd. Big mess... not worth it IMHO. Your mileage may vary.
Thanks for ppointing this out though...
Personally, I wipe, then repair ext filesystems before I flash a new ROM. The only time I don't is when I'm updating a ROM that I have, cm x.x.x to cm x.x.x, in hich case I'll just repair ext's then flash. But, when in doubt...
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Hey, urm new to the rooting business so please bare with my newbness. (i have tried searching)
Can someone quickly run me through updating a rom..
i.e Cyans just released an update, i understand i need to download and flash. But do i need to wipe before flashing? do i need to then re-flash my theme after flashing the new rom? So, does flashing an updated rom loose you all your data?
Thanks, love you guys.
If you're going from one Google based ROM (Cyanogen, JF) then you shouldn't need to wipe. If it's a HTC based ROM, then you would need to wipe.
So go ahead and flash, you shouldn't have any problems. If you find that you get stuck in a bootloop, just boot in to recovery then wipe and reflash.
If you dont have apps2sd and you wipe, you will loose them. If they're on your ext partition they will remain there.
I have a rooted cdma sprint hero and i hear every once in a while that there are some left over stuff that may cause problems with new roms. Now i was wondering what would be the best way to wipe to make sure that there is nothing left over from previous roms.
This is what i do;
1 back up pics and music from sd card
2 format sd card
3 put new rom on sd
4 flash into recovery
5 wipe all that i can cache devalk (sp) etc
6 Run moduler remover
7 Falsh rom
8 Flash kernal
I was also wondering if doing this removes any kernal that i have put on there or am i just adding them on top of each other?
Sorry for such a noob question but i would really like to make sure that my phone is running how the guys making these roms intend them to run
You're being real thorough for sure! LOL! I just boot into recovery and wipe dalvik, cache and ext. I t really depends on how different the new ROM is, as incompatible files are the problem.
Sorry for putting in the wrong thread i wasn't where i thought i was and im not sure i am where i thunk i am. if this needs to be moved feel free
Switching between ROMs all you have to do is wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik cache. That's it. No need to reformat your SD card..
what about if you use ap2sd?
Looks as if wiping/resetting the device directly from Fastboot is starting to become fairly popular as well. May want to give that a go...
-Reboot to Fastboot
-Wipe/reset
-Reboot to Recovery
-Flash ROM/Kernel
-Reboot device
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what about if you use ap2sd?
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If you use apps2sd, that's what wipe ext is for. I actually forgot to include that in my previous post.
wow didn't know that thanks
Just making sure, you're talking about apps2ext, right? Not the built-in froyo version aka apps2fat?
Yes I am not running froyo ... yet
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Since the topic is up I have a question on my own. Are all the wipes necessary when I flash one rom and then nand restore to another?
I just Nandroid, flash and pray the new ROM works I may do a Dalvik wipe now and again. Fingers crossed I have had no problems so far, except when I figured there would be one
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Since the topic is up I have a question on my own. Are all the wipes necessary when I flash one rom and then nand restore to another?
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See my post above...Some do, I don't, and the last few days I have flashed, Nand, reflashed new ROMS, themes, etc while messing with CM6.1 and have not even done a Dalvik wipe...that's just my style though Is it necessary? I would say no, others would say yes...
However, I do have a collection of working ROMS on my SD from Nand all set up the same way that were done correctly (i.e. proper wipe, etc.) with different themes I can go back to if need be.
This question is for the Dev's. As we all know, we have been conditioned to FTS(although I rarely did)before going from ROM to ROM. Now with GB out, there is allot of flashing not only from one dev's rev. to another, but to other dev’s altogether. Yet I haven’t heard of anyone specifically telling me to FTS. Is there something with GB that has made that practice obsolete? Also, if it should become practice again, is there going to be a new or updated one click Odin created so that everyone starts from the same square one?
That practice has been obsolete for MONTHS now, way before gingerbread. The roms wipe before they flash, no need to fts, unless there is a HUGE problem and thats your only out.
Flashed continuum 5 from firefly.
flashed perception 2 over that, flashed mosaic over that. Never once back to stock.
If you want to be careful before you flash wipe data/factory reset. Wipe cache partition, and wipe dalvik cache all from recovery then flash the rom...
I have the exykings ROM I have magisk, viper and Dolby. I don't really want to do everything new again when flashing. When a new build comes how can I still keep my data like viper and Dolby?
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I have the exykings ROM I have magisk, viper and Dolby. I don't really want to do everything new again when flashing. When a new build comes how can I still keep my data like viper and Dolby?
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you wipe cache and dalvik cache then you flash rom on top.
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I have the exykings ROM I have magisk, viper and Dolby. I don't really want to do everything new again when flashing. When a new build comes how can I still keep my data like viper and Dolby?
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Titanium Backup Pro. back up your apps with data, run a batch command to restore them once youve properly installed the new ROM
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you wipe cache and dalvik cache then you flash rom on top.
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this has historically been known to cause issues. its always best to factory reset at least once, wipe caches, reboot into TWRP, install new ROM(and GApps, if needed), go into file manager within TWRP and delete the android folder (just for good measure), boot and restore your apps/data with a backup app used before getting into the installation process
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Titanium Backup Pro. back up your apps with data, run a batch command to restore them once youve properly installed the new ROM
this has historically been known to cause issues. its always best to factory reset at least once, wipe caches, reboot into TWRP, install new ROM(and GApps, if needed), go into file manager within TWRP and delete the android folder (just for good measure), boot and restore your apps/data with a backup app used before getting into the installation process
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lol nuke it from orbit each time because there's a new rom base for that particular custom rom. yeah sure...
5% of the time when there really is an issue with a new build i think i have enough insight to know what to do.
changing rom completely yeah for sure. but i did respond specificially to his question where he was referring on maintaining the team exykings rom from update to update.
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lol nuke it from orbit each time because there's a new rom base for that particular custom rom. yeah sure...
5% of the time when there really is an issue with a new build i think i have enough insight to know what to do.
changing rom completely yeah for sure. but i did respond specificially to his question where he was referring on maintaining the team exykings rom from update to update.
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more often times than not, the 5% you mentioned are unaware of what to do if an issue arises. i wasnt trying to tell you what to do, moreso just bring it up into conversation for those just-in-case situations
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more often times than not, the 5% you mentioned are unaware of what to do if an issue arises. i wasnt trying to tell you what to do, moreso just bring it up into conversation for those just-in-case situations
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If I were to go to advanced wipe when flashing a new build if I were to leave data option alone. Will that keep all of my data or not?
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but that's what he says to not do. if you do so you maybe in the 5% and you just may have problems.(wiping all but data is considered a dirty flash)
but what i am telling you is that just wipe cache and dalvik cache and flash rom of the same dev. you should be fine. if you are not fine, and have weird stuff going on use regular factory wipe option in twrp wipe menu.
so one method is called: a clean flash.
the other called: a dirty flash.
on the same rom, dirty flash works fine 96 to 100% of the time. so dont worry about it.
if you flash an other rom from an other dev then clean flash is recommended for sure.
so its very simple as you can see. some have a tendency to make it appear difficult.
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but that's what he says to not do. if you do so you maybe in the 5% and you just may have problems.(wiping all but data is considered a dirty flash)
but what i am telling you is that just wipe cache and dalvik cache and flash rom of the same dev. you should be fine. if you are not fine, and have weird stuff going on use regular factory wipe option in twrp wipe menu.
so one method is called: a clean flash.
the other called: a dirty flash.
on the same rom, dirty flash works fine 96 to 100% of the time. so dont worry about it.
if you flash an other rom from an other dev then clean flash is recommended for sure.
so its very simple as you can see. some have a tendency to make it appear difficult.
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ive been flashing ROMs since the OG HTC Evo 4G and am keenly aware of the definitions and consequences of dirty flashing vs clean flashing. The android folder should be deleted irrespective of what youre flashing if we're being forward. I guess we are just going to overlook the hundreds of versions of various rom builds that REQUIRED a clean flash every time otherwise bugs were known to occur.
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ive been flashing ROMs since the OG HTC Evo 4G and am keenly aware of the definitions and consequences of dirty flashing vs clean flashing. The android folder should be deleted irrespective of what youre flashing if we're being forward. I guess we are just going to overlook the hundreds of versions of various rom builds that REQUIRED a clean flash every time otherwise bugs were known to occur.
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did i make it sound like i was replying to you?
guess i should have quoted him to make it obvious.
and again, if he's on rom A 1.0 and wants to upgrade to rom A 1.1 then no need to clean wipe or del android folder each and every time.
have you ever had an OTA ? samsung dosent wipe clean ure device just because u upgrade. so his question regarding a similar scenario would apply, dirty flash would work fine.
and again as stated before, if there is weird stuff happening then just clean wipe. no need to get nuclear each and every time.
btw various rom builds require clean flashes because they suppose people are coming from other roms. not saying that there aren't situations where continuously dirty flashing the same custom rom all along its progress wouldint eventually mandate ir benefit from a clean flash but i know of no one that clean flashes each time their rom dev updates/increments a build. they/we only do it incase of issues, this is of some sorts an unwritten law so to speak. devs even state it when users ask if they can do as such.