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OK now that the first hard part is over (getting Webtop running with out dock) now its time to push this to the limits ... I am Currently working on getting apt-get installed and running on Jaunty ... I would love to get some help with all this, obviousy this wont replace my laptop or Desktop, but it would be nice to know that anywhere i am i have a fully function linux machine in my pocket... so lets keep up the good work and push forward, CHARGE !!!
FIRST try and fail... prayed it would be as easy as pushing apt-get to /system/bin and executing ... it was not ... well not with this try anyhow getting a apt-get: cannot execute binary file error
Open a second adb shell and monitor dmesg | grep TOMOYO to see if the MAC is preventing you from executing files not listed in the policy. I had to muck around with it earlier today to get it to run lxterminal.
agentdr8 said:
Open a second adb shell and monitor dmesg | grep TOMOYO to see if the MAC is preventing you from executing files not listed in the policy. I had to muck around with it earlier today to get it to run lxterminal.
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will do !! first thing im doing right now is installing a virtual machine jaunty on my machine to compare and test with figure that will be the most helpful !!
Anyone working on this, be very careful, as the default adbd location is in /sbin, which symlinks to /osh/sbin.
Its possible to use adb to interact with the webtop, its probably easier for these initial command line stages too.
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FIRST try and fail... prayed it would be as easy as pushing apt-get to /system/bin and executing ... it was not ... well not with this try anyhow getting a apt-get: cannot execute binary file error
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Why did you have to push apt-get to the box? apt and dpkg are already there.
I had this earlier, but reverted due to problems (I tried to uninstall rootfs). The first thing that needs to be taken care of is missing package dependencies, and file collisions. The package rootfs provides the functionality of the packages that are missing, but apt doesn't know that.
Also, consider moving /usr to the /data partition to save space. /osh is pretty cramped as is, and resolving the dependencies will fill it up pretty quickly.
droidbird said:
Why did you have to push apt-get to the box? apt and dpkg are already there.
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I saw a dpkg something cant rmember but wasnt the same thing i see no apt-get either. Also even when running in root apt-get did not exist i used echo $PATH Folowed it and did not see any apt files. If i am wrong and you kniw of there existence and how to make them execute please inform us all as if we have a working apt-get well its all but over
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I saw a dpkg something cant rmember but wasnt the same thing i see no apt-get either. Also even when running in root apt-get did not exist i used echo $PATH Folowed it and did not see any apt files. If i am wrong and you kniw of there existence and how to make them execute please inform us all as if we have a working apt-get well its all but over
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it's already there:
Code:
[email protected]:/osh/usr/bin# ./apt-get moo
./apt-get moo
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(oo)
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...."Have you mooed today?"...
but /osh/etc/apt/sources.list has garbage mirrors listed... They point to 10.77.32.150, which is obviously not a real IP. You could try commenting out what's in there and add in a working jaunty repo.
If you're going to use dpkg to install .debs manually, remember that they'll need to be compiled for arm processors.
Unfortunately my PC monitor doesn't do HDMI, so I can't run webtop right now. I'll play around more tomorrow when I can hook up my atrix to the TV
t0dbld said:
I saw a dpkg something cant rmember but wasnt the same thing i see no apt-get either. Also even when running in root apt-get did not exist i used echo $PATH Folowed it and did not see any apt files. If i am wrong and you kniw of there existence and how to make them execute please inform us all as if we have a working apt-get well its all but over
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Apt and dpkg have been verified in this forum to be there for a week, search gets us that as well as some of the dependency issues.
Think about what you are suggesting
Be mindful that when pointing people down the road of running apt and dpkg that the very first thing they should have is a way to recover to stock. It is quite possible and likely that running apt-get or dpkg that you may twiddle some bits on your /osh partition that make webtop fail or unusable.
Have a backout method
At minimum, I would grab a dd of your /osh partition or one from here in the forums and keep it around. In addition, I would suggest you have a way to execute dd (if that is the route you choose to go for backup) outside of the /osh partion in the event you screw /osh up and need to dd back the old working /osh. Is the dd in /bin statically linked? If so, then the plan can be as easy as copying dd to some other partition where it can be executed from. If it is not static, you need one that is or a runtime environment where it can execute.
Have a plan
Why are we trying to get apt working? Is there some goal besides filling up /osh's remaining 77MB of space?
I'll start with a couple of options:
We want a working apt so we can install a less heavy browser than firefox.
We want to be able to replace the awn launcher with something snappier and that does not require compositing, again lowering memory usage and increasing performance.
A working dependency resolving package manager is "the right thing(tm)" to do as opposed to running around with zip files. Zip file are no way to keep a working system.
Exploring and discovering is cool and very fun, but either heading that direction or suggesting others do without a plan is to invite disaster.
If you change sources.lst, please make sure you use ARM repos and not x86 repos. X86 software will break the Webtop if you load it.
For anyone that wants to try, here is the correct repo to use:
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deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ jaunty main security universe multiverse restricted
Always make sure /osh can mount on boot, and that /osh/sbin/adbd remains intact. Without it, you have no way of recovering
perkz said:
it's already there:
Code:
[email protected]:/osh/usr/bin# ./apt-get moo
./apt-get moo
(__)
(oo)
/------\/
/ | ||
* /\---/\
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...."Have you mooed today?"...
but /osh/etc/apt/sources.list has garbage mirrors listed... They point to 10.77.32.150, which is obviously not a real IP. You could try commenting out what's in there and add in a working jaunty repo.
If you're going to use dpkg to install .debs manually, remember that they'll need to be compiled for arm processors.
Unfortunately my PC monitor doesn't do HDMI, so I can't run webtop right now. I'll play around more tomorrow when I can hook up my atrix to the TV
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well i stand corrected, thank you sir.... although mine doesn't execute, still the same error:
./apt-get: cannot execute binary file
Are you sure you were in /usr/bin when you ran ./apt-get since you were specifiying that it execute from the current directory? Failing that, were you root and/or you might need to adjust your TOMOYO settings, but mine executes just fine as root as long as it is in the path and my /osh is fairly stock outside of the TOMOYO settings I have mucked with and a couple of other changes like adding a password for adas. If you still have problems, can you reload your /osh and start fresh?
i was in right dir , i am reboot it all now and will start over
Suggestion to anyone working this, take a dd copy of /dev/block/mmcblk0p13, and use losetup to mount it on /osh when experimenting.
Edit: the kernel lacks a loop device, working on that now.
t0dbld said:
OK now that the first hard part is over (getting Webtop running with out dock) now its time to push this to the limits ... I am Currently working on getting apt-get installed and running on Jaunty ... I would love to get some help with all this, obviousy this wont replace my laptop or Desktop, but it would be nice to know that anywhere i am i have a fully function linux machine in my pocket... so lets keep up the good work and push forward, CHARGE !!!
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When you say " but it would be nice to know that anywhere i am i have a fully function linux machine in my pocket" do you mean being able to run Jaunty on just the phone itself, not hooked up to a dock? Or do you mean hooked up to a dock, just Jaunty replacing Webtop?
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When you say " but it would be nice to know that anywhere i am i have a fully function linux machine in my pocket" do you mean being able to run Jaunty on just the phone itself, not hooked up to a dock? Or do you mean hooked up to a dock, just Jaunty replacing Webtop?
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well i dont own a dock but i do not plan on running jaunty on a 4" screen
t0dbld said:
well i dont own a dock but i do not plan on running jaunty on a 4" screen
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Yea thats what I thought. That would be sweet though. People think I'm crazy when I run Win95 on my phone, I think it's awesome though. So Jaunty or just Webtop IMO would be REALLY awesome to run on the little 4 inch screen! But most people just think it's a stupid, and pointless idea
shawnbuck said:
Suggestion to anyone working this, take a dd copy of /dev/block/mmcblk0p13, and use losetup to mount it on /osh when experimenting.
Edit: the kernel lacks a loop device, working on that now.
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The loop devices are in /dev/block/loop[X].
First off this is completely from Rennat over at PreCentral
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TUTORIAL: How to get the UbuntuChroot up and running for your HP TouchPad
Intro:
UbuntuChroot is the raw Ubuntu terminal without the familiar GNOME graphical interface that all have come to think of Ubuntu. With this installed, you will be able to install ubuntu programs and launch them with in the terminal card.
To do this, the basic rundown will be making a new WebOS Doctor that has a separete partition of memory for Ubuntu to run with in. Then we will install it on your TouchPad and mount that partition so it will be able to be used after a reboot of the device. Lastly, we will install Xecutah, XServer, and UbuntuChroot from Preware and boot up Ubuntu on your TouchPad.
Both credit and Props go to WebOS Internals for making this possible and putting in all the hard work they have to make it as easy as it is.
Warnings:
I nor WebOS Internals take no responsibility over what may happen to your device. If you follow these instructions it 'should' work perfectly. If you do endup messing something up you 'should' be able to just doctor the device using the stock WebOS Doctor from HP.
Step Zero:
- I have provided 2 different ways to set your device up to install the UbuntuChroot onto your device; use the meta-doctor and create your own doctor (Step 1-A) or do as Step 1-B says and contact my army of monkeys for an easier alternitive that won't take forever.
##You my want to backup app data and the like using Save/Restore in Preware as you will lose all your data buy installing a WebOS Doctor. Please do so! And done hesitate to ask questions.
Step 1-A: Creating a WebOS Doctor
- We will be using the Meta Doctor to create a special WebOS Doctor that will create a 2GB (or more if you wish to do so) partition in /media/ext3fs/ were Ubuntu will be.
- Use the WebOS Internals Guide to installing and running the Meta Doctor. In Step 2 you will have to rename you downloaded webOS doctor to the name of the Bell Mobility doctor they have under Step 2'3 (webosdoctorp100ewwbellmo.jar) go ahead and add the webOS version after it like it advises.
- In Step 2'6, if you are using a Wifi Only TouchPad you will be using the last one which has touchpad for device and WiFi all for the carrier.
- Once the Meta Doctor is done, run the Web's Doctor it created under the 'builds' folder. And setup your device.
Step 1-B: Contacting My Army of Monkeys
- If you are having trouble with or are intimidated by Step 1-A go ahead and contact my army of monkeys at [email protected]. Simple.
Step 2: Mounting the new ext3fc partition on bootup
- Now before we continue we have to make sure we have the partition fully setup and mounted on bootup. To do this follow the below WebOS Internals instructions.
All of this is done on device either via novaterm or an SSH login. (simpler terms mean use WebOS Quick install by connecting you device, opening WebOSQuickInstall, and click Tools-Command Line.) If your device does NOT have a folder at /media/ext3fs then you will need to create it first. Use the following two commands:
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mount -o remount,rw /
mkdir -p /media/ext3fs
it is important that you use /media/ext3fs as the location, otherwise some homebrew applications (such as Optware and the Ubuntu 11.04 Chroot) will not be able to find it and use it properly.
After you have created the mountpoint, we are going to edit the fstab file to set it up to mount at bootup.
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
echo "/dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs ext3 noatime,data=writeback 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
Now to get it mounted you have several options, the best one is the first command as it will use the data in /etc/fstab. If that works, then you have done this correctly and your ext3fs will mount at bootup.
Code:
mount -a
If you do not want it mounted at bootup, but you do need it mounted, you can use this command.
Code:
mount /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs
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Step 3: Adding Testing Feeds
- Follow these WebOS Internals Instructions to add the Testing Feeds.
NOTE: These are edited slightly and will only work on a Wifi only TouchPad.
- Open Preware and wait for it to finish loading.
- Open the App Menu (tap "Preware" in the top left corner of the screen) and tap Manage feeds.
- Scroll to the bottom until you see the New Feed box.
- Type or paste a name (webos-testing-armv7) and URL (Right Click - Copy Address) sure the URL does *not* have a slash at the end.
- Make sure the IS COMPRESSED option is set to YES.
- Tap Add Feed and then tap Yes when the alert pops up.
- Gesture swipe back. Preware will alert you that you have added feeds and ask if you want to update them now. Choose YES.
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Step 4: Installing UbuntuChroot, Xecutah, and XServer
- Open up Preware and tap List Of Everything.
- Search for and install the following: UbuntuChroot, Xecutah, and XServer
- Now opened Xecutah and tap XServer and a new card will come up.
- Go back to Xecutah and tap UbuntuChroot. Then swipe back to the new card that came up.
- Now you should have the Ubuntu terminal. Done. It should have a few 'mount' commands and then the @Touchpad:
Step 5: Installing Programs
- Now to have some fun after all that work you put in!
- Type the below and it will update the program lists.
Code:
apt-get update
- Now type the following to install what ever you wish!
Code:
/***type the below for AbiWord
apt-get install abiword
/***type the below for the Chromium Browser
apt-get install chromium-browser
/***type the below for GIMP
apt-get install gimp
/***type the below for Eclipse
apt-get install eclipse
/**type the below for LibreOffice
apt-get install LibreOffice
/***type the below for LXDE (a windows graphical interface) and then launch it by typing lxsession.
apt-get install lxde
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agian from precentral enjoy guys
Mods please move to there thread i was in a rush (dead battery) and put it in the wrong forum
Does anything else besides chromium, abiword, eclipse, libreoffice, lxde and gimp work?
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Does anything else besides chromium, abiword, eclipse, libreoffice, lxde and gimp work?
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anything you can compile for ARM or want to compile for ARM. there is a apt repository.
You could also find a complete guide to install Ubuntu Linux on HP TouchPad here
same thing
XDAnoobr said:
You could also find a complete guide to install Ubuntu Linux on HP TouchPad here
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agian that is only for Chroot which is the exact same thing
Works great, now I have lxde on my touchpad.
able to get ubuntu chroot working properly, with libreoffice
now, hunting for a Bluetooth Keyboard
any one going to test if BT Mouses work? (yeah, i know theres a touchscreen)
Is multi-touch supported on this?
what version of libreoffice does it install the latest one? And if anyone has installed it the ubuntu laggy or is it normal.
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what version of libreoffice does it install the latest one? And if anyone has installed it the ubuntu laggy or is it normal.
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a little laggy sometimes, but still usable most of the time without any problems
libreoffice 3.3.2... you should probably check the ubuntu ARM 11.04 repository to see what is there
top says 1gb ram, 0.90gb used.... not sure why......
EDIT: Tried pairing a BT Mouse... able to find the device via "BT->Search other", but unable to pair properly. Mouse said paired successful, but touchpad couldnt continue, kept searching for devices
Tried "BT->Search Keyboard", but couldnt find the mouse this way
Now they have Debian chroot. Works great as well. Both can coexist at once. All it is is a folder at /media/extfs
Btw, has anyone gotten gnome working? I keep getting segmentation faults.
Is there a way to make that partition without meta doctor?
DJGonzo said:
Is there a way to make that partition without meta doctor?
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metadoctor makes a partition
you could loop a filesystem ontop of the existing partition to avoid this issue, but the page below recommends against it
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Chrooting
mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs on /media/ext3fs failed: No such file o
r directory
Why am i getting this error when trying to mount? It's really ticking me off as I haven't done anything different from the instructions.
I just spent an hour redoing the whole thing and guess what... i'm pissed off
same ****
samvillian said:
mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs on /media/ext3fs failed: No such file o
r directory
Why am i getting this error when trying to mount? It's really ticking me off as I haven't done anything different from the instructions.
I just spent an hour redoing the whole thing and guess what... i'm pissed off
same ****
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looks like you didn't do metadoctor properly,
or you didn't make the /media/ext3fs directory,
or "mount -o remount,rw" didn't execute properly
1st problem: your touchpad should have around 10GB free(out of 16GB, or do the math if you have a 32/64gb)
2nd problem: go back to cmd prompt and check that /media/ext3fs exists
3rd problem: reinstall via webos doctor and do it again
kevina90 said:
Now they have Debian chroot. Works great as well. Both can coexist at once. All it is is a folder at /media/extfs
Btw, has anyone gotten gnome working? I keep getting segmentation faults.
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Sorry, this is off topic. I'm sure Android will get here, but I really want to use my Touchpad (I haven't done much because I figured everything would get wiped anyway this weekend), so I think I'm going to give Linux a go. My understanding of Linux is rather crap. I thought Linux was the OS, and Ubuntu and other things were just GUIs to make it easier for people unfamiliar with command line. How could Debian simultaneously coexist?
I know I could go to wikipedia and look around and try to understand it, but by chance does anyone know any website that kinda describes Linux to beginners? I don't just want to follow the directions step by step on the guide (although its brilliant, looks very easy)without having the slightest effin idea what everything is, you know? Its weird, Linux confuses me, I don't know why. I've used ubuntu a number of times but it's just browsing firefox, not exactly rocket science!
Thanks if you can easily give link and press send then thanks but don't go out of your way, I can find something eventually, but I don't want someone else mucking around for my sake. Its no emergency.
Komodo Rogue said:
Sorry, this is off topic. I'm sure Android will get here, but I really want to use my Touchpad (I haven't done much because I figured everything would get wiped anyway this weekend), so I think I'm going to give Linux a go. My understanding of Linux is rather crap. I thought Linux was the OS, and Ubuntu and other things were just GUIs to make it easier for people unfamiliar with command line. How could Debian simultaneously coexist?
I know I could go to wikipedia and look around and try to understand it, but by chance does anyone know any website that kinda describes Linux to beginners? I don't just want to follow the directions step by step on the guide (although its brilliant, looks very easy)without having the slightest effin idea what everything is, you know? Its weird, Linux confuses me, I don't know why. I've used ubuntu a number of times but it's just browsing firefox, not exactly rocket science!
Thanks if you can easily give link and press send then thanks but don't go out of your way, I can find something eventually, but I don't want someone else mucking around for my sake. Its no emergency.
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I would just find a book on amazon about linux with good reviews made in the past 1-2 years. I would look for one that is distribution neutral.
The reason you can have webos on there and another version of linux is because it's basically installed in another partition (not really, but that's the easiest way I can describe it to you). The actual details of how chroot works are different, but that should relate enough to you to get what it it is.
Linux is the Kernel. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and the rest are distributions of that kernel along with a GUI, and programs to make it a fully functional OS like Windows or OS X.
The Debian and Ubuntu on WebOS is minimal pared down distribution with no gui.
I just went thru all the steps , contacting the army of monkeys, and installed all the preware stuff.
I get Service Error Unable to run command : /sbin/initctl start org.webinternals.debian-squeeze etc etc
Unknown job org.webosinternals.debian-squeeze-chroot.
I got this with the Ubuntu chroot too. any ideas?
paperWastage said:
looks like you didn't do metadoctor properly,
or you didn't make the /media/ext3fs directory,
or "mount -o remount,rw" didn't execute properly
1st problem: your touchpad should have around 10GB free(out of 16GB, or do the math if you have a 32/64gb)
2nd problem: go back to cmd prompt and check that /media/ext3fs exists
3rd problem: reinstall via webos doctor and do it again
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I've redone webos doctor like 4 times already.
How do I check if the directory exists? Plus i'm on a fresh 32gb, so its not that.
thanks
edit: i tested to see if the directories existed and i found a possible error.
i just cd to the folder to see if it exists, and media/ext3fs existed.
but the /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs doesn't exist apparently...
would that be the issue?
So, Ubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" is finally out. I've been using it for about a week now and i like it. I used Ubuntu a couple of years ago (9.04) so i got shocked when i saw the Unity thingy. I hated it so much that i installed Gnome-Shell, and it's the best thing i've done.
Are you planing on installing or testing "Oneiric Ocelot"?
Really? No Ubuntu/Linux users here? At XDA? I'm shocked!
It is?! Awesome!
I plan on using it.
-Hercules grabbed my post, and threw it at your face to be read-
Hell yeah it is! But you WILL hate Unity (if you've already tried it and love it, then good for you), but overall it's pretty sweet! It's missing some stuff though like Synaptic and other system tools, but it's not really a problem.
But i guess Canonical is trying to make Ubuntu extra "n00b friendly"
Btw, here's an article from Lifehacker about 11.10
http://lifehacker.com/5836779/ubuntu-linux-1110-oneiric-ocelot-released-heres-whats-new?
Video of 11.10 with Gnome Shell:
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Hell yeah it is! But you WILL hate Unity (if you've already tried it and love it, then good for you), but overall it's pretty sweet! It's missing some stuff though like Synaptic and other system tools, but it's not really a problem.
But i guess Canonical is trying to make Ubuntu extra "n00b friendly"
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They took out synaptic? Wtf?! It's in 11.04...? I have unity, I like it, and don't yet I don't. It's a love hate relationship.
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Yeah it's in 11.04 but not in 11.10 But i guess you can install it yourself, haven't tried it myself yet. Added video to my previous post btw.
I have no idea how to spell that
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Yeah it's in 11.04 but not in 11.10 But i guess you can install it yourself, haven't tried it myself yet. Added video to my previous post btw.
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You think if I do a apt get dist-upgrade it would remove my synaptic?
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Well it didn't happen when i did it, but my computer crashed last night so i did a fresh install, and then it was gone. But it shouldn't get removed by upgrading through the update manager. Check the "will be removed" part before you hit the upgrade button.
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Hell yeah it is! But you WILL hate Unity (i guess Canonical is trying to make Ubuntu extra "n00b friendly"
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Ubuntu.... "n00b friendy"? Sweet!
I'm planning on getting a new internal HD next payday and partitioning it with Windows 7 on one partition and Ubuntu on another. If it wasn't for Visual Studio and all the music software I use (Sony Acid & Sound Forge and Fruity Loops) then I'd probably go all out Linux.
Glad to hear I've selected a good n00b version
Hahah Oh, it's noob friendly! It takes some time getting used to it though, so keep that in mind
I did have a play with a live CD I burnt and found it to play just like Windows, on the surface. I know when it comes to doing anything "under the bonnet" then I've got some learning to do. I've been using PCs long enough to remember when they were just DOS boxes though, so it's probably not going to be anything new - just need to translate current knowledge into new knowledge I guess.
Good to know there's some linuxy types in off-topic for when I shout for help
Yup, but it's actually not that hard. I'm miles away from the super nerds, but as long as you can remember these commands, you'll be just fine:
- sudo apt-get install [package name]
- Example: sudo apt-get install firefox
Done. Firefox is installed.
Want to remove firefox?
- Sudo apt-get remove firefox
Don't know the package name for, lets say, a music player:
- sudo apt-cache search music player
The terminal will list all the packages with "music player" in it with the package name. So if you end up wanting "Banshee", you'll see that the package name is only "banshee". So then you type "sudo apt-get install banshee".
You'll end up saving a lot of time installing and uninstalling apps this way instead of opening the Software Center everytime you want something.
These are my most used commands:
- sudo apt-get install
- sudo apt-get remove
- sudo apt-get install --reinstall [package name] (reinstall an app)
- sudo apt-cache search (search for package)
- sudo apt-get autoremove (removes obsolete packages)
- sudo reboot (reboot)
- sudo poweroff (turn the computer off)
Very nice, thanks
If it's that simple to do things like that from the terminal app then I can see why people use it so much. Imagine trying to do that from a DOS prompt in windows!
rundll32.exe some.dll,FunctionNameIKnowCosIDisassembledSomethingEx "don't know what this parameter is for", filename, -LETTERSTHATMEANNOTHINGTOME
Thanks for that post mate - this thread is most certainly bookmarked.
Thank you very much I'm a super noob with Linux and I didn't know how to install Firefox lol. But this install command is used for .tar.gz files, right?
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Haha, true true! If you feel extra nerdy you can try Arch. I tried it, and the room got hotter by the minute. It was hell.
And btw, i forgot two commands:
- sudo apt-get update (update/reload the repositories)
- sudo apt-get upgrade (will install new updates)
But again, you don't need terminal anymore. You can easily do everything (99%) through the menus.
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Haha, true true! If you feel extra nerdy you can try Arch. I tried it, and the room got hotter by the minute. It was hell.
And btw, i forgot two commands:
- sudo apt-get update (update/reload the repositories)
- sudo apt-get upgrade (will install new updates)
But again, you don't need terminal anymore. You can easily do everything (99%) through the menus.
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I like the idea of doing stuff from terminal. Makes me feel more like Neo
idavid_ said:
Thank you very much I'm a super noob with Linux and I didn't know how to install Firefox lol. But this install command is used for .tar.gz files, right?
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Oh, the tar.gz. If you're a noob (i'm still a noob), then stay away from the tar.gz You'll need to compile the package yourself using the terminal, and that's not that easy, so just try to download .deb files (same as .exe - in other words "double click and install")
But when you want to install Firefox or whatever you're downloading them from a repository, so the only thing the terminal needs to know is what you want to do (apt-get install/remove/reinstall) and the package name (firefox/opera/banshee/wine etc.).
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Oh, the tar.gz. If you're a noob (i'm still a noob), then stay away from the tar.gz You'll need to compile the package yourself using the terminal, and that's not that easy, so just try to download .deb files (same as .exe - in other words "double click and install")
But when you want to install Firefox or whatever you're downloading them from a repository, so the only thing the terminal needs to know is what you want to do (apt-get install/remove/reinstall) and the package name (firefox/opera/banshee/wine etc.).
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i only used one line command and that's it
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johncmolyneux said:
I like the idea of doing stuff from terminal. Makes me feel more like Neo
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agreed, and it's easier to use the terminal than checking the menus one by one
hiu115 said:
i only used one line command and that's
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Hey hey hey! Share your secret! It better be shorter than this: |________|
just wanted to let all you developers know you kick ass..... i had a jb rooted ahd running batakang rom and loved it until it had an unfortunate meeting with the tire of my fullsize truck this morning....replacement from att store come with stock jb on it ....ive never used linux before and really dont think i can handle the root process for jb (especially after reading the posts from ppl alot smarter than me that were having problems.....looking forward to a simpler method like motofail....thanks again for all of your help and looking forward to making my ahd scream again
jaydheat said:
just wanted to let all you developers know you kick ass..... i had a jb rooted ahd running batakang rom and loved it until it had an unfortunate meeting with the tire of my fullsize truck this morning....replacement from att store come with stock jb on it ....ive never used linux before and really dont think i can handle the root process for jb (especially after reading the posts from ppl alot smarter than me that were having problems.....looking forward to a simpler method like motofail....thanks again for all of your help and looking forward to making my ahd scream again
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It is a piece of cake trust me. Before I rooted my AHD I had never used Ubuntu or any form of Linux. I download Unbuntu and made the liveCD, and literally copied and pasted every command from the thread into the terminal in Ubuntu, then just followed the instructions on how to connect the phone. Worked first time, no issues. Just grab a cup of coffee, take your time, copy and paste and you will have root in no time,
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It is a piece of cake trust me. Before I rooted my AHD I had never used Ubuntu or any form of Linux. I download Unbuntu and made the liveCD, and literally copied and pasted every command from the thread into the terminal in Ubuntu, then just followed the instructions on how to connect the phone. Worked first time, no issues. Just grab a cup of coffee, take your time, copy and paste and you will have root in no time,
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The hardest part is probably making the liveCD :laugh:
this is a one-click tool for the "hardest" part..
enjoy!
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
jaydheat said:
just wanted to let all you developers know you kick ass..... i had a jb rooted ahd running batakang rom and loved it until it had an unfortunate meeting with the tire of my fullsize truck this morning....replacement from att store come with stock jb on it ....ive never used linux before and really dont think i can handle the root process for jb (especially after reading the posts from ppl alot smarter than me that were having problems.....looking forward to a simpler method like motofail....thanks again for all of your help and looking forward to making my ahd scream again
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I rooted my AHD tonight and it was my first experience ever using Ubuntu. It took me a while to figure it out, but once I got started it was a cake walk. Like someone else said, the hardest part is probably making the LiveCd/usb. I'm not sure why, but I couldn't ever get Ubuntu to work properly in VirtualBox so I ended up just booting my LiveUSB and opening the instructions on my tablet and doing it. It's super easy. Just do exactly what it says.
Oh, and it took me a little while to figure out just how to open a terminal in Ubuntu (ctrl+alt+T). If you're as much of a noob with this as I am knowing how to open a terminal will save you some time right from the get-go.
Good luck!
Google is your friend
any help?
ok so I ran Ubuntu and i cannot get my AHD to connect to the remote server i have entered everything as the instructions said all i get is an error that says that i need to repair my network is there a way to fix this?I really want my root back guys any help ?
EDIT:I have fix this by restarting my router excuse my my questions
very sorry
jelly bean root issues
hey guys just a few questions trying to root my ahd....im using ubuntu 12.04lts live cd
just a few issues
first
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2) but 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.3 is to be installed
Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2) but 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.3 is to be installed
Recommends: tdb-tools but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[email protected]:~$ sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
this is what i get when i install samba
also when i try to restart it says
[email protected]:~$ sudo restart smbd
restart: Unknown job: smbd
also prolly a stupid question but when i try to do the file manager it says cannot connect to remote host,
ive tried resetting my router and restarting both my phone and computer and nothing works...help
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So yeah...
I was wondering, if any "recent" version of Ubuntu would work for the root...
Main reason for asking this was because I had a Live USB With 10.04
That and the PC i'm stuck with ATM just can't seem to handle 12.04...
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Never mind, I'm getting Lubuntu...
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I keep getting this error when trying to install samba in my lubuntu (persistent) usb...
Personally, I find these errors to be very annoying, as all I want to do is root my phone...
So, at the moment, I can't install Samba, can't "sudo gedit..."
[email protected]:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu1) but 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu5 is to be installed
Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu1) but 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu5 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[email protected]:~$
i got it...
thanks for all your help, you guys roick finally rooted on stock jelly bean btw used ubuntu 12.10 on usb worked great first time no problems
Lubuntu Variant
I noticed for Lubuntu, its a slight variant as opposed to the basic Ubuntu instructions...
Instead of gedit, you can substitute leafpad instead...
"sudo leafpad /etc/samba/smb.conf"
Oh and I think I solved my earlier problem after installing the "sessioninstaller" from the Synaptic Package Manager... (Use the search function.)
My only issue ATM is when I'm in the terminal and I try and use "sudo restart smbd" and it doesn't seem to work.
It merely tells me smbd isn't a process...
Don't think I'm crazy, because I DID manage to do it. Everyone says that Wubi isn't available for an installation of 13.04, but really it is. Not sure if this is official, but here goes:
Download an Ubuntu ISO disk image, and extract the contents using an archive manager.
There should be a "wubi.exe" in the root of the disk image contents. Run the program, and configure regular Wubi settings as per normal. Everything should install well.
Once it's done, it'll say you should reboot now or you can reboot later. Your PC will automatically boot into Ubuntu once you reboot.
Ubuntu will install itself alongside Windows (it should actually just install in a folder called ''ubuntu'' on the root of your Windows hard drive) without any danger of ruining your precious data.
TL;DR: Extract wubi.exe from an Ubuntu 13.04 image.
Congratulations!
For some real fun, you should try installing it as a stand-alone OS on a different disk/partition and customize your own boot menu!
Either way, enjoy your Ubuntu experience...
zyrzox said:
Congratulations!
For some real fun, you should try installing it as a stand-alone OS on a different disk/partition and customize your own boot menu!
Either way, enjoy your Ubuntu experience...
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I've tried that before, but I messed up my bootloader. I'd much rather use Wubi as it is safer, and easier to remove. Their are also some hacks to increase the Wubi disk size (even more than 30 GB). I think that newbies to Ubuntu would much prefer trying out Ubuntu with Wubi, so please refrain from your harsh sarcastic remarks. This thread, after all, is just to show that there is Wubi for Ubuntu 13.04 (and possibly for newer or upcoming versions).
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I've tried that before, but I messed up my bootloader. I'd much rather use Wubi as it is safer, and easier to remove. Their are also some hacks to increase the Wubi disk size (even more than 30 GB). I think that newbies to Ubuntu would much prefer trying out Ubuntu with Wubi, so please refrain from your harsh sarcastic remarks. This thread, after all, is just to show that there is Wubi for Ubuntu 13.04 (and possibly for newer or upcoming versions).
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I'm saddened that my comments were interpreted as being harsh and sarcastic. I was merely encouraging you to further broaden your technical horizons by installing Ubuntu utilizing a more advanced technique, which is [also] quite gratifying once you get it working. I'm a big fan of Ubuntu and have it installed on all of my machines for when I get the urge to tinker.
I know the pain of botching your bootloader, I've done that myself more times than I can remember over the years and yes, it definitely sucks! Now I use NeoSmart's EasyBCD to customize my boot menu and I haven't had any problems for a very long time.
if anyone has experienced the same thing with me? often when I shutdown ubuntu 13:04 .. seemed very long, in fact I've been waiting about 30 minutes .. but .. still can not ... I was forced to shut down leptop hard reset. I know it can cause damage to the hardisk
indorocker said:
if anyone has experienced the same thing with me? often when I shutdown ubuntu 13:04 .. seemed very long, in fact I've been waiting about 30 minutes .. but .. still can not ... I was forced to shut down leptop hard reset. I know it can cause damage to the hardisk
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Maybe close all active programs before shutting down?
get 10
Codename13 said:
Maybe close all active programs before shutting down?
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Still close before shutdown.. but this problem still come to me
As that this is unrelated to mobile devices OT is a more appropriate section for this thread