Does i need to have install hard spl if I only want to complicate the orginal rom with a custom radio rom?
Yes you must hardspl
langsuyar64 said:
Yes you must hardspl
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Okey, so RUU is not enough?
No, it isn't. RUU is more like a "base" for flashing a rom or a radio. HardSpl is something different.
Do some reading here:
http://modmydiamond.info
CarpeNoctum said:
No, it isn't. RUU is more like a "base" for flashing a rom or a radio. HardSpl is something different.
Do some reading here:
http://modmydiamond.info
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Okey, thanks
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?
ValdreZ said:
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to check to see which SPL I have installed on my phone?
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bootloader (cam + power)
Where would I find it at? I see the radio. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731 - Thats the Radio and SPL I used. I was looking to see if its the same as the Danger SPL. If not where can I find it? I'm looking forward to the Cliq/blur rom by drizzy and I read in the post that your gonna need the DangerSPL. Thanks!
See sig for download link.
if your HBOOT says 1.33.2005, you have the danger spl
How to check & confirm which SPL is with my G1 now (HardSPL/Engineering SPL/G1 Original SPL/Danger SPL)?
Appologize for asking such a dump question & thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
that link explain everything you need to know about SPL
RodrigoKim said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
that link explain everything you need to know about SPL
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Thanks, i've got what i wanted to know.
Is it possible for an SPL to downgrade without bricking a device? I ask because I recently had to reflash DREAIMG.nbh and my SPL seems to have gone back to 0.95.0000.
Do you mean DREAIMG.nbh?
evilkorn said:
Do you mean DREAIMG.nbh?
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yah, my bad. nbh is what i mean. i'm so smrt
May i ask why though?
Just wondering why you want to go back to stock.
Ace42 said:
May i ask why though?
Just wondering why you want to go back to stock.
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i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.
grandomegabosses said:
i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.
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Yeah the image is bundled with a Radio.But you need to downgrade your spl.
grandomegabosses said:
i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.
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If you would like to check the SPL version you have on your phone currently, power off your phone and power back up by pressing the camera button + the power buttons ... check you SPL version that your phone has on it. I believe you exit after checking by pressing call+menu+end buttons...
peace
robbie725 said:
If you would like to check the SPL version you have on your phone currently, power off your phone and power back up by pressing the camera button + the power buttons ... check you SPL version that your phone has on it. I believe you exit after checking by pressing call+menu+end buttons...
peace
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i've checked the spl. i used to have 1.33.2005, but upon checking last night and this morning, i have 0.95.0000.
Ace42 said:
Yeah the image is bundled with a Radio.But you need to downgrade your spl.
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so dreaimg.nbh downgraded my spl?
grandomegabosses said:
so dreaimg.nbh downgraded my spl?
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yes.................
Make sure you flash the radio after doing the NBh and getting a recovery image.
sooooooo one more question.. would it be possible to upgrade me spl again? i'm at 0.95.0000 again, but i want to make sure it's safe before doing anything.
grandomegabosses said:
sooooooo one more question.. would it be possible to upgrade me spl again? i'm at 0.95.0000 again, but i want to make sure it's safe before doing anything.
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make sure you update your radio first. it will be fine
You also do not have to downgrade your SPL before flashing the DREAIMG.nbh as Ace suggests....
B-man007 said:
make sure you update your radio first. it will be fine
You also do not have to downgrade your SPL before flashing the DREAIMG.nbh as Ace suggests....
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thanks. i just wanted to be sure before i screwed up my phone.
just an update for anybody who wants to know, it worked. :] thanks guys
Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...do you think I should change the SPL?
Baalzamon said:
Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
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yes.. its safe
Baalzamon said:
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...
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OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
http://code.google.com/p/openeclair... Type Status Priority Owner Component Summary
Baalzamon said:
do you think I should change the SPL?
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nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong(old) radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
Baalzamon said:
Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...do you think I should change the SPL?
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There's almost no point in reverting. What's the harm in having the extra space for future necessities?
Firerat said:
yes.. its safe
OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
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Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
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Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
lbcoder said:
Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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Why revert and have to risk another potential brick when he's already using the DangerSPL and successfully installed it without a brick?
lbcoder said:
Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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accidental bricking? How do you accidentally flash an old radio with out knowing? The newest radio that was just posted in the dev section is compatible. Basically the reason why the old radio wasnt compatible with the Danger SPL is because the Danger SPL is simply the MT3G SPL just modified to be used on the G1. The MT3G was never compatible with the older radio since it came out after the radio update. Also there are advantages to having the Hard SPL do some research before bashing SPLs.
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Joe333x said:
accidental bricking? How do you accidentally flash an old radio with out knowing? The newest radio that was just posted in the dev section is compatible. Basically the reason why the old radio wasnt compatible with the Danger SPL is because the Danger SPL is simply the MT3G SPL just modified to be used on the G1. The MT3G was never compatible with the older radio since it came out after the radio update. Also there are advantages to having the Hard SPL do some research before bashing SPLs.
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I have looked into your future.. I see a long, aggressive post from lbcoder detailing EXACTLY why you're WRONG.
He's quite passionate about this spl.
goldenarmZ said:
I have looked into your future.. I see a long, aggressive post from lbcoder detailing EXACTLY why you're WRONG.
He's quite passionate about this spl.
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I am not wrong our opinions just differ. I use to be against the Danger SPL also until I flashed it myself and seen that it was safe if you could follow directions which is why I made a How-To for others.
Joe333x said:
I am not wrong our opinions just differ. I use to be against the Danger SPL also until I flashed it myself and seen that it was safe if you could follow directions which is why I made a How-To for others.
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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm pretty sure he will.
Personally, I think the 2005 spl is pointless on a g1, but I flashed it ages ago and see no point reverting. There definitely is an advantage to the hardspl for non-US users though.. Some of the european people in particular need the ability to flash international images to get root in the first place.
goldenarmZ said:
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm pretty sure he will.
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lol i will agree with you on that one
goldenarmZ said:
Some of the european people in particular need the ability to flash international images to get root in the first place.
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... and do tell how you can flash the SPL ***BEFORE*** you get root....
lbcoder said:
... and do tell how you can flash the SPL ***BEFORE*** you get root....
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"......"
I'm sure I had a point there, but until I remember what it was, I'll just hang my head and walk away quietly.
goldenarmZ said:
"......"
I'm sure I had a point there, but until I remember what it was, I'll just hang my head and walk away quietly.
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Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.
Joe333x said:
Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.
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Get ready for more action! I sense lbcoder cooking something up...
Joe333x said:
Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.
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..but I can't remember why that was useful. I thought I knew when I typed it but I don't anymore.. I blame this evil beverage in my hand.
grandomegabosses said:
Get ready for more action! I sense lbcoder cooking something up...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL said:
HardSPL is a modification of the Engineering SPL by cmonex. In addition to the functionality of the Engineering SPL, HardSPL also allows NBH files to be used without matching the CID (carrier ID) check. At the current time the main benefit of this is to allow European G1s flash American NBH files and vice versa.
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http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL
goldenarmZ said:
..but I can't remember why that was useful. I thought I knew when I typed it but I don't anymore.. I blame this evil beverage in my hand.
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You typed it be lbcoder said that there is no advantage to using the Hard SPL.
Firerat said:
yes.. its safe
OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
http://code.google.com/p/openeclair... Type Status Priority Owner Component Summary
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Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
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OP wants OE 1.2.2 , you need danger to flash, 'bugged' OE 1.2.2 means that danger is needed, OP downgrades, OP can't flash 1.2.2 therefore no point downgrading... No point downgrading fullstop... even if not 'broken' it would still flash over Danger.
tbh OE Devs/beta testers should have at least confirmed danger was not needed by downgrading and flashing.
Firerat said:
nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong(old) radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
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lbcoder said:
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
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you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
removed the old, is that better?
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Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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errm, Hardspl lets you flash things you wouldn't normally be able to flash, that is why Hardspl is needed..
your comments were largely pointless, you don't score any points for not full quoting me
Firerat said:
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
removed the old, is that better?
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Don't forget that a radio flash can be included in ANY update.zip archive.
That includes the possibility of accidentally flashing a MALICIOUS system image designed to cause bricks.
And as I've said before, there is no guarantee AT ALL regarding what some future radio will be compatible with. Just because HTC has ***LATELY*** been releasing radio images compatible with both SPLs does NOT mean that this trend will continue in the FUTURE. The ONLY guarantee you have is that HTC WILL NOT release RADIO UPGRADES for DREAM that ARE NOT compatible with the STOCK 0.95.x000 SPLs.
errm, Hardspl lets you flash things you wouldn't normally be able to flash, that is why Hardspl is needed..
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No... it doesn't.
It only lets you flash foreign NBH files.
If you have an engineering SPL, there is NO REASON AT ALL to flash NBH files!!!
In fact, if you have an engineering SPL, you SHOULD NEVER flash an NBH file because then you LOSE your ENGINEERING SPL as well as ROOT!!!!
your comments were largely pointless, you don't score any points for not full quoting me
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Did I quote you enough this time?
lbcoder said:
Don't forget that a radio flash can be included in ANY update.zip archive.
That includes the possibility of accidentally flashing a MALICIOUS system image designed to cause bricks.
And as I've said before, there is no guarantee AT ALL regarding what some future radio will be compatible with. Just because HTC has ***LATELY*** been releasing radio images compatible with both SPLs does NOT mean that this trend will continue in the FUTURE. The ONLY guarantee you have is that HTC WILL NOT release RADIO UPGRADES for DREAM that ARE NOT compatible with the STOCK 0.95.x000 SPLs.
No... it doesn't.
It only lets you flash foreign NBH files.
If you have an engineering SPL, there is NO REASON AT ALL to flash NBH files!!!
In fact, if you have an engineering SPL, you SHOULD NEVER flash an NBH file because then you LOSE your ENGINEERING SPL as well as ROOT!!!!
Did I quote you enough this time?
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Where on Earth would you be downloading malicious update.zips from? If you don't trust the source, you probably shouldn't try it. Also, you can open the zip and check for a radio image. And future radio images are not pushed to you anymore because you're on a custom rom. Why would you flash a random radio image you found here without other people trying it first?
Your arguments really do make sense. I'm not trying to say you don't have logical points. All I'm saying is if you use the brain, you probably won't brick your phone.