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I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
I haven't used Soulife, so maybe you don't want my opinion. It's the internet though, so I'm giving my $0.02 anyway.
I don't think anyone, Google included, is pushing Android as close to the limits of how well it can run as Cyanogen is. You don't need to be a prolific flasher either - Stick with his stable build, update when he releases a new stable. Right now that's 3.6.5, and it has been rock solid in my experience (and the majority of the users posting over in development)
apps2sd isn't required - I ran without it for awhile, switched to it when I got my new card. No real difference, other than storage space available.
HTC IME is included and runs fine.
Cyanogens rom is the fastest out there period. Also when upgrading from a previous versin of his rom to a newer one there is no need to wipe, so you don't need to reinstall all your apps.
setspeed said:
I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
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Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
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Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
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To be fair, if you read through Cyanogen's update thread ... It sounds like he hasn't really found much from ION that tweaks performance. ION's speed just comes from it being a real clean build of Android without lots of extras. Cyanogen's speed tweaks are mostly his own, with some patches from the cupcake and donut branches that haven't made it into the OTA releases.
switch to CM 3.6.5
I just did the switch a couple of days ago and I was also stand offish about apps2sd but I found the thread on how to do it in terminal emulator. It was extremely easier than I thought. The rom does the rest for you. I am constantly suprised how fast and user friendly the rom is. I even overlayed tehseano&moonsspoon hero theme over it with no problems. I am going to stay with this until I know something is better.
Just update your recovery image to 1.3.1 and then do the Nandroid backup. Run which ever rom you want and then if you use the 1.3.1 you can just reflash right back without much of any effort.
Of course you can if you want to use your PC and do the Nandroid rebuild, but thats so last month.
Heres my two cents for ya...I was put off to try apps2sd as well, figuring the same, that id hafta keep redoing everything andf messing it up and starting over...not the way it went down, dude. Not at all. I was coming from the dudes 1.3RC1 to cyanogens...i updated to cyanogen's recovery, then installed CM3.6. I booted into recovery, ran A2sd (ctl+m) and when i rebooted it was all done. I never wiped, and for the first day i had a battery glitch where it didnt wanna hold a charge very long, but after i let it charge overnight it stopped and have not had a problem in the world since. And Im still on CM3.6, also not a "prolific flasher", and i plan on staying right where im at until somebody puts out something (personally) worth flashing again. Cyanogen is controlling the "market" right now, in case noone's noticed all the ROM threads stamped with "CYANOGENIZED". His is definitely the way to go, almost all the other roms out there are somewhat based off of, or including something from his. And its not a pain in the ass like you think as long as you pay attention and make sure all your bases are covered. BACKUP YOUR STUFF!!! just in case...
-BMFC
honestly
I did a lot of comparisons on ion and byte for byte, every binary except debuggerd is identical as adp1.51 or crb43 and the only difference is the compiled time, it looks like ions debuggerd was compiled 4 minutes earlier than adp1.51's. Same thing for all the library's, only difference is libreference-ril.so which I assume has something to do with it coming from sapphire. However, there is like 6 or 7 binarys excluded from ion (I'm not at my pc so I can't tell you which ones off my head). So if you ever hear this build has dalvikvm from ion for speed you can laugh cause its identicall to the one on a stock g1.
The ion remix v1 and 1.1 is using A LOT of cyanogens goodness, I can do this cause its all google based. What you are gaining by using cyanogens is whatever new is introduced in aosp revision 2. I'm running an unreleased beta 1.2 with cyanogens .29 kernel and squashfs and it flys. You can compare his description to mine (will be updated with 1.2) but your getting a lot of the same stuff.
Take advantage of cyanogens pimped out recovery. You can backup your phone, wipe and flash and if your not happy just restore it like you never left. Take advantage of advancement. Try some other builds out to measure your likes. Just not hero, its evil.
I just installed Cyanogen's stable rom 4.0.4 before Google issued the cease and desist order. I am not sure how long it is going to take Cyanogen to issue a new rom that is acceptable to Google.
So, I am at a crossroads now that the official stock Donut is being pushed out by TMobile.
Is the stable version of Cyanogen 4.0.4 mostly like the official Donut rom, or are the quit a bit more features? I have also thought about upgrading to 4.1.11 but don't want to have a buggy handset. I am interested in know what others are planning while we are in custom-mod "limbo".
Thanks.
4.1.11.1 is very usable. Good luck finding a link to it, though.
i used cm updater to get 4.1.11.1 today because i couldn't find a dl link
also had the same question.... what is everyone doing?
(A) stick with stable
(B) try 4.1.11.1 (what issues? Is it Donut?)
(C) go stock
(D) Try another ROM (insert my shock face) that has Donut
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also had the same question.... what is everyone doing?
(A) stick with stable
(B) try 4.1.11.1 (what issues? Is it Donut?)
(C) go stock
(D) Try another ROM (insert my shock face) that has Donut
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on one of my phones i have 4.1.11.1 with my theme, the new lockscreen, and the 10mb ram hack. (my main phone) on my other phone i have akirah 1.6 with my theme. akirah 1.6 runs amazingly smooth, i just like the new lockscreen too much to give it up.
imo both roms are smooth, i have not noticed anything out of the ordinary using 4.1.11.1 (if anyone needs a link to it ) also if they have removed akirah 1.6 again.
i think akirah 1.6 is a little faster and smoother than 4.1.11.1, but 4.1.11.1 has a lot more features that i like more, so i will stick with 4.1.11.1 for now for daily usage.
Im sticking with 4.1.11.1.... This ROM is fast. The only thing I had to do was set up partitions on my sd. For some reason I was getting alot of fc's. I had 4.04 and it was also nice but no bfs. 4.04 doesnt have the new market but your not missing anything special.... NEW COLORS YEAAAAH! There are alot more themes for 4.04 but the guys on the dream side are mking quite a few for 4.1.11.1.
As for stock ROMs Cyanogens are far more advanced and quicker. Im so happy i dont have to look at the Myfavs icon anymore! Now if I could only do something about the Amazon icon!
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Im sticking with 4.1.11.1.... This ROM is fast. The only thing I had to do was set up partitions on my sd. For some reason I was getting alot of fc's. I had 4.04 and it was also nice but no bfs. 4.04 doesnt have the new market but your not missing anything special.... NEW COLORS YEAAAAH! There are alot more themes for 4.04 but the guys on the dream side are mking quite a few for 4.1.11.1.
As for stock ROMs Cyanogens are far more advanced and quicker. Im so happy i dont have to look at the Myfavs icon anymore! Now if I could only do something about the Amazon icon!
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in the recovery console
Code:
mount system
rm /system/app/com.amazon.mp3.apk
reboot
that will kill amazon until you flash another rom
oh wait you have a magic don't you (didn't think about that until after i typed it), just use a file browser with root capabilities to delete it out of /system/app or type adb shell then do those commands. (with adb shell it doesn't have to be in recovery)
sweeeet! thank man! later amazon. (one handed typing right there! you cant teach that.... its instinct!...... and dinner time.)
LINKS?
david1171 said:
on one of my phones i have 4.1.11.1 with my theme, the new lockscreen, and the 10mb ram hack. (my main phone) on my other phone i have akirah 1.6 with my theme. akirah 1.6 runs amazingly smooth, i just like the new lockscreen too much to give it up.
imo both roms are smooth, i have not noticed anything out of the ordinary using 4.1.11.1 (if anyone needs a link to it ) also if they have removed akirah 1.6 again.
i think akirah 1.6 is a little faster and smoother than 4.1.11.1, but 4.1.11.1 has a lot more features that i like more, so i will stick with 4.1.11.1 for now for daily usage.
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David I was wondering if you maybe have the links to CYANOGEN 4.0.4 been lookin for it all over the web found broken links all over...Thanks!! wil really appreciate it!
You should be able to get 4.04 and 4.1.11.1 both from the CM updater still.
I myself was also in the same situation as the OP. I installed cyanogen 4.04 like maybe 4 days before the C&D letter and now donut is released. Imagine that.
My question is, I've read that donut has improved performance, and battery life.
Is it faster and better on the battery front than the cyanogen 4.04 rom i have currently?
i'm just gonna wait for the 'suprise' cyanogen has for us this weekend (from twitter)
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I myself was also in the same situation as the OP. I installed cyanogen 4.04 like maybe 4 days before the C&D letter and now donut is released. Imagine that.
My question is, I've read that donut has improved performance, and battery life.
Is it faster and better on the battery front than the cyanogen 4.04 rom i have currently?
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CyanogenMOD has Apps2SD which IF you have a class 6 microSDHC will be faster and have ALOT more space for apps. As a root user, you can overclock the underclocked stock G1 (stock cpu is 384MHz, root cpu overclock can be 528MHz) which makes it faster also. As far as battery life, you will save battery with stock 1.6 .
Just my 2 cents but I might be wrong.
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i'm just gonna wait for the 'suprise' cyanogen has for us this weekend (from twitter)
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10 char
knowfear said:
You should be able to get 4.04 and 4.1.11.1 both from the CM updater still.
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I don't have any CM ROM installed in my G1 yet so I can't use CM Updater...Well I'm a noob so correct me if I'm wrong...
thanks for the advice. Yeah i'm looking at maybe overclocking my G1, I might take a hit on battery but from what I've read, I can live with the trade off.
Which app would you recommend to overclock?
I keep hearing about overclocker, and setcpu. I heard that overclocker the settings reset with every restart so right now i'm leaving toward setcpu. What's your take?
I wonder what's the surprise cyanogen has this weekend.
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CyanogenMOD has Apps2SD which IF you have a class 6 microSDHC will be faster and have ALOT more space for apps. As a root user, you can overclock the underclocked stock G1 (stock cpu is 384MHz, root cpu overclock can be 528MHz) which makes it faster also. As far as battery life, you will save battery with stock 1.6 .
Just my 2 cents but I might be wrong.
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thanks for the advice. Yeah i'm looking at maybe overclocking my G1, I might take a hit on battery but from what I've read, I can live with the trade off.
Which app would you recommend to overclock?
I keep hearing about overclocker, and setcpu. I heard that overclocker the settings reset with every restart so right now i'm leaving toward setcpu. What's your take?
I wonder what's the surprise cyanogen has this weekend.
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before cyanogen implemented cpu scaling into his builds, i used overclocker, then i used overclock once it came out, i would go with overclock widget or setcpu since both of those have good options.
anyone had any issues with contacts not uploading or importing on CM 4.1.11.1.1? I just came from 4.0.4, but it seems like my contacts stayed back.
I have tried sync option, reboot. Any other ideas?
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anyone had any issues with contacts not uploading or importing on CM 4.1.11.1.1? I just came from 4.0.4, but it seems like my contacts stayed back.
I have tried sync option, reboot. Any other ideas?
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If I remember correctly some ppl had problems upgrading with 4.1.11.1, I wiped before I installed 4.1.11.1 and didn't have any problems like that. you might wanna browse the thread for that rom to verify though, memory is slightly hazy (might just be me)
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If I remember correctly some ppl had problems upgrading with 4.1.11.1, I wiped before I installed 4.1.11.1 and didn't have any problems like that. you might wanna browse the thread for that rom to verify though, memory is slightly hazy (might just be me)
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Yeah, I can say that I did not wipe prior to. I was looking for the thread, but it seems to have been closed or buried. I'll give 'er a wipe and see what happens. Cheers!
Hey guys,
Could anyone suggest to me the fastest, most stable ROM for my G1 that doesn't run into any issues (especially from everyday use).
I've used plenty of them, mainly sourcing off Cyanogen but I seem to always get some delays especially with my phone, so many people have told me they tried ringing me but went straight to voicemail and my phone has no missed calls or anything, just sitting idle and this is a major pain.
I'm currently on the original version waiting to upgrade, is there an official Cupcake version I can download? My calls coming in quickly are more important than themes right now.
Thanks!
Im using CSDIv1....its a FAST rom. I dont have Swap enable(Sucks battery) nor 10MB Ramhack(Like my 3D apps), and still its a really fast rom.
There is only one problem with it, and its that the Keyboard is on Spanish. But you can change it just pushing a folder to the system, and voila. If you need some asistance, just ask.
I suggest the latest MghtyMax ROM. Is the fastest and stable Hero ROM I've tested.
super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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i did i came from cm 4.2.14.1 and i couldnt believehow much faster it was...my weather clock widget is always right now too
@dmm0816
Nice. My new card should be here tomorrow. I ll flash tomorrow then. Hoping the higher class card will make some difference too.
Thanks for your help man.
For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
I use king's 2.3 hero rom, I only use hero roms anyway though, best normal rom I've tried, however is super d. although, cyanogen is very "noob friendly"
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For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
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Hmm..Im curious why you say that. What makes Cyanogen more "everyday useable"? What would you actually say are the biggest differences in the 2 roms?
Really they're all apples, just different flavours. From what I've read, they all have the same bits and bites from Eclair; cyanogen's modded code (right?). I personally pick CM over everything else because the community support for CM is a larger, more discussion. Of course, this doesn't mean the other ones are inferior. You should try them all for like a day or two. Wipe before you try a new one, so you can tell which one really works best.
2.1 Roms on the other hand I think need more work. Not all the drivers work yet. I tried OpenEclair and I felt a bit handicap compared to the 1.6 Roms. Also, for me at least, it didn't feel as fast as the 1.6 Roms. Good roms but need more work.
I was running Cyonogen for some time and I was pleased but I love to experiment. For the last 2 weeks I've been testing the 2.1 ASOP roms out from King(1.5) and Enclair (1.15). Both are great builds but I prefer the customization in enclair more and both are fairly stable. I was having the issue of texts getting deleted and the Rom's just seemed like they were not as quick as I wanted them to be. I enjoyed the new layout but I was finally just frustrated with overall performance and I keep reading about the Super D build. I wiped my phone and threw it on few hours ago and WOW! It is blazing fast and very stable from what I can see so far. I've tried some apps out that were proving difficult before and just wow I am amazed. This build may be on the 1.6 based side but I am glad to have performance back over some "prettyness". I may try the 2.1 builds again but I will wait for all of the kinks to work out. So my opinion is hands down Super D ( I believe it was 1.8 v) is the best build available right when looking at overall performance and stability. I love it! Made my day!
*on a side note*
I could never get Youtube to install and work with the enclair ASOP 2.1 builds, it was very frustrating as you cannot download the app from the app store and issues installing manually via the APK.
I found AmonRa 1.6.3 to be the fastest and stable ROM, in my opinion
Rgds
I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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In my experience, 1.6 will always be snappier then 2.0/2.1 builds; at least for now. Our G1s don't exactly have a huge amount of space to store bigger ROMs. Really having 2.1 isn't necessary but it does have some nice features that 1.6 doesn't have. Like ability to have multiple google accounts and facebook sync. I can't really think of anything else of the top of my head but I'm sure there are at least a few others.
One thing people haven't gotten to work on 2.1 ROMs for G1, is the video camera. Camera works though on most 2.1 ROMs now (all?). The new contacts display for 2.1 is nice but even laggier then the one used in 1.6 ROMs. Can't think of anything else, someone help!
Basically, 2.1 has a lot more STUFF in general. Whether you need this extra stuff is up to you, because STUFF needs more RAM stuff, and G1 is low in that department.
My opinion:
MghtyMax 1.9.1 is veeeery fast!!! (with Swap, SetCpu and all that stuff, of course)
I like any of the Roms from King's collection and I like Super-D verry much too. Cyanogen's rom has a larger community cause that's normally what people hear when learning about rooting and stuff. I only used Cyan when I compared Enom to Cyan and Enom's was faster and everything was great.Super-D is faster than Cyan but seems slower than Enom's, Cyan has the eclair stuff just like Super-D. But I think its up to what you like you cant let others decide cause their perception of speed is diff from yours.
Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
legend221 said:
Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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I just actually read about that rom, and it seems good. What makes me wonder though, is that some people say its faster than Super D. How could it actually be faster, as this rom is more or less just Super D with a theme installed? Surely, having the theme installed would decrease performance buy a little bit, vs increase it.
But what do I know
Edit: Ok, Im stupid. as Fast Test doesnt have the Eclaire stuff, thats where a performance increase would come. **slams head on keyboard**
Super D, hands down. No rom even comes close.
And Fast Test 2.3 IS Super D, just with a theme, so unless you want that specific theme, there's no point in getting Fast Test, when Super D is available.
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
I'd suggest downgrading to the engineering spl, downgrading to rc29 and then waiting for the official OTA to get back to the official ROM.
that's the only STABLE rom out there. the rest is put together, but I personally don't care as I like to make fun of my friends who bought the N1 because they said the g1 would never see froyo.
Living on the edge has it's costs
considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.
Are you kidding me, how picky are you gonna be? Especially since we are still getting support for the G1. Maybe you would be better off with an iphone. I'm rockin CM6 and damn proud of it.
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a little peculiar,i admit. cyanogen did and does great job.
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I normally flash on a daily basis just for fun and I can tell there are many roms that can be used as a daily rom and stable
one of them is "Eclair" "Super D" for me everything I need is working and fast
there is also a Froyo Rom by LefeuDeDieu that work fast and stable
for 1.6 I found super E the fastest
so I would say You haven't found the right set up for your phone and your needs
Try cyas 6.0 (froyo 2.2) RC1 with the new gapps (FRF91-3).... it flys for me if you don't install too many apps and is very stable (in my opinion more stable than cyas 5.x). If you pump it with apps the internal memory gets low, no matter how much you move to sd or clear the cache (due to the froyo apps2sd method). You can try too get things better with setcpu (compcache made things worse for me), but with too much load cyas 6.0 turns very slow for me.
/edit ... with Firerats CustomParitions (solving the froyo apps2sd low memory issue) and the CM6 Build from studjuce (using launcherpro instead of adw) its as fast as hell :O even faster than Clay's CSDI ... oh man i guess i have a new daily driver :>
For donut (1.6) i prefer HTCClay's CSDI REMIX, which runs stupid fast no matter how much apps you install on your sd-ext. I personally found it faster than Super D / E. This is my daily driver since i randomly use Cyas 6.0.
I assume you have danger SPL since you installed cyas 5x. (if not ... beware )
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considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.
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Wow I gues you're tying to impress, being a newbie and all, but that's one aweome post... only part I don't get is the "welcome to the forums" in the last paragraph...
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I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Yes. Unroot your phone and get the official updates from t-mobile, sprint, etc. Problem solved, too easy...
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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OP,
I am sorry for the flames you're receiving for asking a legitimate question. People on this board automatically make the assumption that users only want to use leading edge software. Xda has become very mainstream nowadays. News Media is driving everyday users here who just want an improved experience, but who dont necessarily understand the complexities of development. Does that mean they are not welcome? Absolutely not.
To answer your question, a rom based off donut or eclair will give you the results you are looking for. I specifically use zd donut 1.8 "got donut? " rom(ignore my signature)..... it is fast and stable. But so are the super e and supper d series roms. GivE them a go, you will be thankful. But every now and then flash a new rom just to check it out.
Good luck
Just my 2 cents
I am in the same boat, I like trying out new things but I need my phone for everyday use, that's why I picked up a spare G1 with cracked screen for less then $50 and use it to try out new stuff (currently CM6). My main driver - Super-D 1.9.3, the last stable version that you can actually call stable. I also removed whole bunch of stuff that I don't ever use and added some visual enhancements (clear settings widget, MusicMod, ADW latest launcher). Man, thant thing flyes and not a single FC in over 3 months.
All in all, it's inevitable that most of us will get new phones and these "improvements" will be oushined by stock roms but in the mean time be thankfull for what you get (for free!!!!) and learn enough to customize any rom to the point that it fits your needs.
Somebody else pointed this out earlier, but I'm gonna bring it up again. We're lucky to even have support for 2.1 on D/S. It's not meant for our devices and, yah, there are going to be some bugs, considering it was meant for a different devices. The same goes (pretty much) double for 2.2. When I got my Dream, I didn't imagine we would/could get past 1.6. I was freaking out when I got Eclair for the first time. Now we're on Froyo, same version as the N1, and (for me, at least) it's running better than Donut ever was for me.
While I do agree that we don't have many completely stable roms nowadays, I'm also grateful that we have developers like Cyanogen who still care about the lower income (I say that because I justt don't have the funds to purchase a higher end Android phone as of right now, and I suspect that may be the reason many other people have invested in one either) public enough to keep putting out solid, functional roms.
Count your blessings.
enomther "theofficial" roms are super stable.Keep coming back to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456&highlight=enomther
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I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Here's my top choices of roms that ive found to be extremely fast
and stable as heck.
Donut Roms: 1st choice - Htcclay's superbad/superfast
2nd choice - SuperD.
Eclair Roms: 3rd choice - Chromatic 3.9.1
(Extremely fast and stable for a eclair rom but is nothing compared to those Donut roms.)
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Hey paaaaan!
I totally understand where you coming from, I (and probably many users here) have exactly the same problem. When i got my MT3G and first rooted it (more than a year and a half now) i was trying out a different ROM everyday, just polaying around and having fun. Cyan's ROM's never really worked out for me and i think i got a bit traumatised about it (although i recognize the invaluable contribution he's been to the Android community - it just couldn't possible be the same scene without him and Google should, if it hasn't already, recognize this fact. But after some time i started wanting to have a stable rom, just something that wouldn't hang out on me or lagged all the time - this was quite some time ago, mind you, the Hero sense ROMs were coming out for the first time and 1.6 had just been released. after many tries i stuck with Dwang's Donut build (no longer developed) which at the time was the fastest and most stable ROM i found. I stuck in my head that none of the latest versions of Android would run as smooth in my phone so i stayed with Dwang's (flashing it every month or so) until very recently actually.
I don't really remember why but i decided to give a go to the newest ROM's after reading so much praise for them in here... and i must confess i was really taken back by how far the development had come and what i had missed. I've tried Cannon202 Complete Eclair 2.2, Clay's SuperBad 1.6 & 1.7 and now on Chromatic 3.9.1 and i must say they all are stable enough for everyday use, according to my standards. Now, you must note that many times what makes the ROM unstable is not the ROM itself but how you flash it and how you fill it. I ALWAYS wipe completely before flashing a ROM - and don't just do a complete wipe in recovery but actually use fastboot to wipe the system as well. Another thing you must note is the amount of apps you throw at it, and how fast i do it. If i install or recover all my apps after install no ROM holds stable... instead i go installing them little by little, as i need them... i found out that with the exact same ROM this makes a HUGE difference! Also, after you flash, wait for it to settle down before you start configuring it... i normally also do one or two reboots before i start tweaking anything or installing apps. Compcache and swap never really worked for me so i don't use it (though i do have the SD partioned for that). SetCPU and the right configuration on the settings of the phone (try Chrome's post-boot set-up on his Cromatic thread) make a huge difference.
I must confess i really like Clay's SUPERBAD ROM (1.6 actually works better for me then 1.7) but it seems it has been discontinued, unfortunately; and i still haven't tried any Froyo build (waiting for it to mature, let some problems be solved.... nothing really in it that i can't live without); but i consider all Eclair ROM's i've tried based of Cyan's 5.0.8 perfect for everyday use. I mean, they are faster than the stock Vodafone ROM it came with the phone. Of course, you will have problems after a while and need to rewipe and reflash but that is exactly why you rooted your phone right?
I installed Cyanogen Mod 6.1 Magpie on my HTC G1 Dream.
Almost all applications are installed on the SD Ext partition.
It's deadly slow. I can't bare it.
Do you have a better, faster, more stable ROM to suggest?
I need SD Ext partition support.
I crawled the forum, but I am new to Android and feel lost.
I am now good with adb, rom partitionning and rom flashing though.
I always wipe everything before flashing (including system).
Give me your best advise please.
I really think that froyobylaszlo is the best. Stable and very fast ROM =)
Latest version of EzGingerbread is excellent and stable as a rock (I have been using it for a couple of weeks now). Also pretty fast and great battery life. On 2G I am almost getting 2 days out of it.
It has the latest Gingerbread version and Ezterry is still around to support the rom.
froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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Depends also much on your requirements. FbL will run smooth without the "RAM-hack", i.e. installing the 0013d/2708 combo. Running EzGingerbread without it will be a pain, but if you install that combo, it runs very very well. I think it compares well to the original 1.6, but having much more features
froyobylazslo and ezginbread are by far my two most favorite roms, but you will have some lags with either one here and there. so if this bothers you you'll have to go back to eclair or donut to get the absolute best speed on a g1. just remember you will be missing out on a ton if you do this! so i say try them both and hope the lags wont be to much to bare.
Thats a coincidence, because I have been playing with my Dreams and flashing a bunch of oldies but goodies. Last week I flashed CM 6 Magpie - same as yours. I flash ohsaka super wipe before flashing magpie. but the first thing I do after it boots is 1. enable nonmarket apps and 2. go to cyanogenmod settings and allow for application moving automatically and then 3. install root explorer, go to system/app and wipe out all the junk all wallpapers, youtube gmail email everything just keep the bare minimum and at the end I have like 6 apps to play with then it is a very workable ROM, and also install cache for root and enable to clear every hour - and it has been running nice and simple ever since. Granted its not my daily driver, but anyway Fierat really made a big difference with magpie...
Froyo is weird on the G1. Gingerbread is much more natural you just have to get creative with which apps you install. EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
But my absolute most favorite ROM ever for the G1 is SuperBad by htcClay and 2nd is SuperE by Buchacher. Those are the best roms when you are actually using it as a daily driver.
Although I did manage with The Dudes Cupcake for almost 6 months as my work phone, and its all a matter of how committed you are to seeing it through.
FroyobyLaszlo is the most capable Froyo Rom for the G1 for me. But I really never liked Froyo, it was only a short period of time in between CM5 and CM7 which blew away CM6.
I recommend my froyo rom. Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
It (unlike fbl, cm6, and other roms froyo or lower) is still getting updates. And ive recently started caring about security do expect changes soonish
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Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
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That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
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AndDiSa said:
That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
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true that! I have found that EzGingerbread 1.0 to be probably the fastest/most stable rom I have tried (If you set it up the way it says in the thread and install the older versions of facebook and maps as suggested). SuperE was not bad but not my favorite. I would avoid Froyo roms. I have never has one run well, including the official T-Moble for MT3G OTA update.
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EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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I used it from one of the early alphas (the first one with autokerkel) and I've had a similar experience. There were bugs in early builds (if you didnt expect that, you must be crazy), bit I've had no problems with it. Was my daily for most of the time I used my mytouch
DREAMTeam Froyo is a best ROM.
DREAMTeam Froyo by TVall is best. I have been using with Titanium backup and ext2 and with custom mtd
Froyobylaszlo and GingerYoshi are the best
According to my experience Froyobylaszlo is the best for performance but I ended up using GingerYoshi because it has all languages supported (Arabic in my case). So if you only need English go ahead with Froyobylaszlo but if you want another language you might want to check if it's included first. EzGingerBread does not include all languages either. GingerYoshi's performance is not bad at all if you use LauncherPro and it includes all language packs.
Laszlo's release is pretty buggy from my experience. I would stick to one of the many gingerbread releases, dream team froyo, or my ROM after I can get out the next alpha.
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Forgetting about the classic biffmod2.1 rom that thing is grate. Its a dead rom nut it died stable and grate
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I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
FroyobyLazlo 5.2 hands down is the Best CM6 Rom.
CM7 Magpie is the best CM7 Rom.
I don't use AOSP Roms, but they'll always have the best speed. Also most free Ram.
Personally FBL, with a Gingerbread Theme. Ext4. All apps to SD, and Use the lastest Froyo Kernel. But FBL has crazy speed with it's kernel, but it's reboots every couple of hours.
Mt debloated Cm7.1 Rom GingerbreadbyNomy (RC1) With the latest GB kernel is worth trying. I'm not saying it's the fastest, but it has like 75% free Ram.
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I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
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Of course 1.6 will always be fast.. the G1 isn't meant to run anything over that
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In my opinion donut ROMS (Superd 1.11 with Elegance (BETA) 1.1.1 theme) are the best for daily ROM, you can have "heavy" apps running on background without missing sms, fc's, random reboots, lags, incoming call instantly, etc. but if you want the newest features ezGingerbread it's the best for me and your G1 will have around 30mb of free ram every time