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It's supposed to be priced at $400. Which makes it $150 more than, the Nook Color.
If this is true, you gain dual-core processors, 1GB RAM, 10.1" IPS display, and a removable keyboard (Assuming- it's factored into the $400).
Smashing good deal, I'd say.
However- my main complaint of all tablets (at least in this price range)... Is they don't run a full OS. The hardware on the Eee Pad Transformer suggest to me, it could viably run Windows on it in a dual-boot situation... I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything on doing this?
If so- it makes this an amazing device.
The problem with Windows is that the GUI and applications are designed around mouse usage. This will be an issue with any OS GUI not designed around touch. So it won't be as amazing as you think. Consider how difficult it will be to use toolbars with tiny buttons, use the taskbar (tiny icons), select things in dropdown menus, etc. You'd really need a stylus to get anywhere.
I suggest you look at netbooks if you want Windows. I have an EeePC 900 that I've been using for years and frankly it is vastly more usable than tablets thus far for a number of reasons.
There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
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There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
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OK- this is what I was looking for. So it won't run on Tegra 2...... Answers my question.
I am with you: I wouldn't assume the $400 included it but I've seen some product pages to suggest otherwise, I'm waiting to see. Even if the keyboard cost $100... Putting it the same price as the iPad... A tablet with no keyboard or a tablet with a keyboard: no brainer- the Eee Pad still gets the edge.
TexUs said:
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
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I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
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I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
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That's true but that's where the keyboard and touchpad picks up the slack.....
For 95% of people- Microsoft products (IE: designed with the touch in mind now) are fine.
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My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
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I'm not sure how this device works (the bootloader) which is why I questioned the possibility anyway. Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
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I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
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I think 10" is a good size, myself.
7" is fantastic size as well, but it's too big for one handed typing and too small for two handed so... It's an awkward size. 10" is perfect IMO.
I have an EEE 1005HA and had a EEE 900? There is a big diffrence in size. IMHO the 1005 form factor is the best ballance for useabillity and portability.
Dell has a flip screen netbook / tablet that looks intersting but the price point is high, the reviews are low, so I have not considered it.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too). The 9" is exceptionally portable and I actually wish I could find a notebook that's even smaller. Unfortunately they don't exist outside of some severely limited PDAs.
This is the reason I grabbed a Nook Color. I've wanted a 7" tablet because it's smaller than the 9" EeePC. I've had a Droid to play with but it is just too small. Unfortunately touch screen input is far inferior to a keyboard/touchpad in some situations.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
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No, I won't go look up some videos. If he, or you, want to make the contention, which is specious at best, that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind, feel free to explain your stance. Otherwise, I'm not buying. I work with Windows XP and Windows 7 every day. The Windows 7 interface is like lipstick on a pig relative to XP.
In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately. If you want to hibernate or suspend, you need to precisely click on the little triangle right next to shutdown. Yeah. If you mis-click, then the device will shutdown, which isn't what you want. This was designed with touch in mind?
Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
Look, I like my Nook. I'm very interested in the Asus tablet if the price is right. I'm just not letting some clown get off with some lame contention that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind all that easily.
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Everything.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/touch
It was designed with touch in mind. Microsoft saw this tablet thing coming and was proactive... People don't give them enough credit sometimes.
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I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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IMO the future of computing is with a STYLUS and not fingers.
Why? Handwriting. Have you used Windows 7 + OneNote? That's the future. Write ideas, notes, whatever you want to down... And then you can freaking SEARCH them later on (handwriting recognition). That is immensely more useful and practical than typing stuff in or inaccurately penning something with a fat finger- as you say.
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I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
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Excellent points, but you'd then have to have a taskbar of some sort and then it starts becoming "too complicated" for people. I'm not sure if the added complications would outweigh drag and drop benefit. (Window switching is already there via long-press on home button).
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I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too).
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I've personally got a 13" as you said- much beefier hardware.
However. After thinking about it, I don't do video editing, really. Or anything intensive. I have no need for that beefier hardware so then the question to me is... Why don't I get something smaller/more portable?
poofyhairguy said:
The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
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I expect Microsoft to start killing x86 off in Windows 9. That said, I've heard rumors they are already going to drop x86 in Windows 8.
Again, believe it or not: Microsoft is fairly proactive here and knows what direction they need to move in.
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I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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There's already some intel-powered Windows tablets coming out that'll be fairly decently spec'd. The downside is I've not seen one under $1000. Which makes sense considering the hardware. However- my point is that they're already coming.
Microsoft has talked of Windows 8 supporting some kind of windows-on-a-chip thing as well...... Again- they know what's coming and where they need to take it
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In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately.
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Preaching to the choir. I have no idea the justification for that one. Even on a desktop PC it makes no sense what with the strides in hibernation/sleep.
Keep in mind this setting can be changed (and it might even be changed upon detection of a touch screen device, who knows... Windows 7 installs differently based upon detected hardware like SSDs, etc).
Considering you've admitted you haven't used Windows 7 in a touch environment I'm not sure why you expect anyone to put much stock in what you say.
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Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
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How do you do it on Android? Get real.
TexUs,
You and I just disagree.
I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
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You said relative to XP. Everything DID change in contrast to XP. XP sucked from a touch perspective. It was pretty much just tap this or tap that... Windows 7 made huge leaps and bounds.
Touch gestures in the OS, High DPI support, the Taskbar was huge in multi-window management in a touch environment, Aero Snap- again- more window management made easier in a touch environment, IE- touch support added - along with most all Microsoft products
Tons of improvement over XP. Again- the OS as a whole is now ready for touch- XP can't say that.
And your singular example of the shutdown button (which I already admitted is retarded regardless of setup) is hardly a damning point.
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On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
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Yes because stylus tech and handwriting recognition is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago.
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I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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By that token, Android isn't tablet friendly since it relies on long-presses to gain additional options (IE: context menu) either.
Your logic just doesn't stack up.
You're complaining that a full blown OS has more features than a phone OS. Really? Where else do you suppose they stick all those options? All over the screen? Or with menus and long presses to pull them up only when needed? You also act, like people will constantly be using these functions on a tablet anyway. Tablets are for the foreseeable future, additions. Only things like the Eee Pad Transformer that have easily attachable keyboards- have any hope of replacing "real" computers.
I have a windows based tablet and I am incredibly happy with it
I have every intention of getting another one very soon (probably the asus ep121 or the hp slate 500)
I don't know why everyone's arguing about stylus input here, but if you haven't tried an active digitizer, you have no idea what you're talking about.
there's no way you can compare a windows tablet to a palm pilot which had a crappy resistive touch screen
it's like night and day
and the hand writing recognition in windows 7 is really, really good
I use it all the time and I never have any problems with it
also, I've been using my stylus nearly every day for 2 years and I haven't lost it..
I really don't see that being a problem
but anyway, I find it strange that no one has bothered to mention windows 8 in this thread. it will most likely be out fairly soon and it will support arm( not to mention the fact that it will be more touch friendly). I doubt it will be easy to port to something like the transformer, but it will be a hell of a lot easier than porting win7.
one more thing, you can long press to right click in windows, exactly the same as you do in android.
I'e been searching for a while now to find a nice Windows Phone 7 ROM that I could flash for my Nexus One, do you guys happen to know of any? I'm currently using Windows Phone Lite from the market; it works, but it's not perfect.
Yes, I love Android, I just want to try out WP7.
Don't know of any ROMs, but I've used Launcher 7 and it gives a good feel of the WP7 user interface.
Launcher 7
Liko said:
Don't know of any ROMs, but I've used Launcher 7 and it gives a good feel of the WP7 user interface.
Launcher 7
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Thanks, I'm trying that out now, but I'd still love to find a good ROM.
Why?
Along the same lines, I've been looking for a way to port the Commodore 64 OS into an Android-capable handset.
LOAD "DIAL IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND"
PRESS PLAY ON TAPE
OK
SEARCHING FOR DIAL IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND
LOADING
READY.
RUN
Meh, you're all probably too young to remember the good ol' days.
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Why?
Along the same lines, I've been looking for a way to port the Commodore 64 OS into an Android-capable handset.
LOAD "DIAL IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND"
PRESS PLAY ON TAPE
OK
SEARCHING FOR DIAL IMAGINARY GIRLFRIEND
LOADING
READY.
RUN
Meh, you're all probably too young to remember the good ol' days.
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Ill be fine with msx-dos or amigaos
Kyralik said:
I'e been searching for a while now to find a nice Windows Phone 7 ROM that I could flash for my Nexus One, do you guys happen to know of any?
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99.9999% chance of never happening.
Menelkir said:
Ill be fine with msx-dos or amigaos
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Ahh, Amiga...good old days indeed! True preemptive multitasking OS, intuitive GUI in Workbench, and the graphics and sound fidelity... mmm... in 1987! Microsoft could not boast of that complete set of features in a consumer OS until Win 95. After my C64 I briefly had an Amiga. Then I moved to the States and got an Intel 386 box running MS-DOS and Win 3.1. Faster chip, more memory, and more hardware flexibility, to be sure...but the OS was a giant step back.
Meh, you're all probably too young to remember the good ol' days.
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I still have my Commodore 64 in the attic st my parent's house
Was wondering if somebody fluent in the Linux OS could help me choose a good Linux distro. Currently running LMDE, but it seems as if my laptops battery pluments. I have a high capacity 6-cell battery which usually lasts me 6-7 hours on windows. But only lasts 4 hours or less in LMDE. Anyways I'm looking for something that has just about everything working out of the box. LMDE had my WiFi drivers... my graphics drivers... which Linux is picky with my radeon GPU. My laptop is
HP Pavilion Dv6z quad edition
AMD A8 3550-MX (APU)
Radeon HD Discrete Class Graphics (I believe its a 6220g)
6GB RAM
Etc.
If you need any more info just ask. Thanks.
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Try Ubuntu, I have it set as a dual boot OS on my desktop and it had most of the drivers I needed.
Ubuntu tends to run "out of the box" without any additional installs or tweaks, so you could try it. Make a live CD and check that everything is working before you install it.
Oops. I should have mentioned I tried Ubuntu 11.10 and it wouldn't display my screen turns out it doesn't like my GPU. Tried 10.04 and it worked... but hardly. Haven't tried 12 yet... might try it and see if it still does the black screen deal. Trying to stay away from fedora or RPM based distros as I hear they are a little more difficult and I'm a Linux illiterate.
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If you've still got an Ubuntu 11 disc available, this thread may help with your display issue...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929234
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If you've still got an Ubuntu 11 disc available, this thread may help with your display issue...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929234
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Yeah I looked into that. But I also saw that people did this and their resolution was terrible. I might try it again. If I find the disk again.
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Yeah I looked into that. But I also saw that people did this and their resolution was terrible. I might try it again. If I find the disk again.
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I just used that to get up and running. Once I was dual-booting and able to run Ubuntu I just changed the resolution in that and it was all good.
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I just used that to get up and running. Once I was dual-booting and able to run Ubuntu I just changed the resolution in that and it was all good.
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Being a complete illiterate on this stuff... its a little daunting. If someone would like to help along the way a little later... my talk is [email protected]
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Check out CrunchBang, haven't tried the newest build yet but it's super lightweight and snappy, it is by far my favorite distro and has been rock solid on 3 different machines for a year and a half now.
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Check out CrunchBang, haven't tried the newest build yet but it's super lightweight and snappy, it is by far my favorite distro and has been rock solid on 3 different machines for a year and a half now.
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Intresting never heard of it.. then again the only ones you ever really hear of are Ubuntu and Fedora... so ill take a look at it. I understand desktops are a lot more linux friendly? Wondering if there is one that is more laptop friendly. Laptops tend to have more drivers such as Wifi bluetooth and so on and so forth. Maybe somthing like that?
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Intresting never heard of it.. then again the only ones you ever really hear of are Ubuntu and Fedora... so ill take a look at it. I understand desktops are a lot more linux friendly? Wondering if there is one that is more laptop friendly. Laptops tend to have more drivers such as Wifi bluetooth and so on and so forth. Maybe somthing like that?
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I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 6920 laptop and an Asus Eee netbook, both worked great out of the box. The main thing I like is there are lots of keyboard shortcuts to open apps, really cuts down time for opening anything.
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I'm running it on an Acer Aspire 6920 laptop and an Asus Eee netbook, both worked great out of the box. The main thing I like is there are lots of keyboard shortcuts to open apps, really cuts down time for opening anything.
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Alright gotta find my DVD's and make a disk.
Intel processors?
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I just took a look at Linux Mint 13 and it looks promising. Can you put Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.04?
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Intel processors?
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Yes sir, the laptop is a Core 2 Duo and the netbook is an Atom.
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Yes sir, the laptop is a Core 2 Duo and the netbook is an Atom.
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That's the problem... I have an AMD and Linux seems to be partial to Intel at least from my experience.
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I use Fedora 17. I like it.
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That's the problem... I have an AMD and Linux seems to be partial to Intel at least from my experience.
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Ah my fault, completely missed where you said that, sorry 'bout that.
If you grab the "AMD64" iso image you should be fine, it's been a while but I remember running Ubuntu 9.04 on AMD with no problems, you should be fine.
Debian squeeze is very good for that sort of thing
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Try Ubuntu, it will make you just happy
On the Indiegogo page for the Ubuntu Edge, you can see a video of a proof of concept for the Ubuntu Desktop.
She used an app on a stock Nexus 4 (if I remember correctly, she says AOSP) and just launch it like that on Android and sent it to the screen.
Am I the only one who find this more amazing than running Ubuntu Touch on a Android phone ?
If you take a look at the size of the ARM Ubuntu version, you have a 500 MB file and I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
Cheers.
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I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
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As you point out, the video demonstrates a fully functional version of Ubuntu for Android. In the IRC channel, Ubuntu VP of engineering stated that U4A requires the Android OS to be modified slightly. I'm hopeful this process is unveiled soon and U4A becomes publicly available. It likely won't be very smooth on current commercially available hardware, and there's not really enough storage on an N4 to make it very practical, but it would still be nice to get a glimpse of computing convergence.
Thank you for your answer, is there any way to have access to this discussion ?
It seems pretty smooth on the video, which is surprising when you know the current hardware limitation on Android ...
For the storage, the cloud allows you to only download the file you need so it might not really be a problem.
I'm currently thinking about building a NAS to use it as a storage and download platform, it might be a custom solution for this problem.
Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
EDIT
Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
EDIT
Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
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Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
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Your link is not valid and I didn't find anything on the Play Store with the name Ubuntu.
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Korgall said:
Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
Nice thank you gonna give it a try tonight.
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
This is Relevant To My Interests
Im interested. Hope this gets updated soon
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zacthespack said:
This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
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You're a genius :good:
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
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Currently its just 12.04 on Ubuntus side as we aimed to make alot of changes for our 13 release, but its coming
So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
BCVisin said:
So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
zacthespack said:
For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Okay, cool. I am extremely interested in this and I am a developer as well, so if there is anything you need tested or anything I can help you work on, please let me know.
I have a rooted Nexus 4 with sock jelly bean on it. I have played with installing Ubuntu Phone on it a few months back, but went back to android as I felt extremely limited in Ubuntu Phone.
I have the SlimPort® SP1002 from Amazon coming today. As I said before I would love to run it without the lag of VNC. Convergence is my main goal and I am so excited about Edge, but I want the Ubuntu for Android app for my Nexus 4 that I saw Leann talk about being already ready toady. Any idea of where/when we can get it?
zacthespack said:
For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Will you implement native chroot at some point too?
So now that the Ubuntu Edge campaign has failed, if/when do you think they will release Ubuntu for Android? I am going to get the new Nexus (Nexus 5?) and hopefully they will have it released for that phone.
Hello there, new to the forum!
My Q. is if it is possible to put Android on the MC Lumia 640 LTE? And it being stable and performant.
If so, please link me a tut!
Thanks !
Install some of launchers from store
Sorry, but thats not possible.
Same thing as wp on a Android device.
Just a few pointers you have to overcome........think of hardware compatibility, drivers, radio etc etc.
Niche Info
You can not do this
dont ruin super phone with android
Even if you could performance would not be very good.
Wp runs much better on the same hardware
Wish this could be done. I love the $60 Lumia 640's hardware more than some of my $200+ phones. The swappable unibody shells are great. But... windows is crippling this beauty. I'd go pick up 3 of these if android was possible.
There are $60 Androids phone, so...
Not as nice as the Lumia's hardware. To get an android phone, as good as the 640, you'd need to spend something upwards of $180.
rouyal said:
Not as nice as the Lumia's hardware. To get an android phone, as good as the 640, you'd need to spend something upwards of $180.
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How much a Xiaomi Mi4?
MrCego said:
How much a Xiaomi Mi4?
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In the US? I don't even know where to get one, but a quick Google search shows 200+ usd
touch pro 2 was able to boot android, no reason why this can't be done on 640...
walmart now has the 640 at 29.00... so with a flood of these in the market an android hack may be possible...
Again: If you want android, buy a phone with it. Period.
feherneoh said:
What the hell are you doing on XDA then? Get out of these topics, if you don't want to help people.
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You're right man. Fanboys everywhere.
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MrCego said:
Again: If you want android, buy a phone with it. Period.
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This is XDA buddy. Not a fanboys place. Face it.
I'm not fanboy. Ok, according to this, I will buy a drone and then a littles tires to use as remote car, right? Prfff!!
feherneoh said:
A smartphone is just HW. If we want another OS, we will port it somehow. I have 4 Lumias, and still, I prefer android because of the apps, even if I know, that WP runs much better on the same HW. And until now my favorite Android device was one that shipped with Windows. I don't personally own a 640, but if it got a SecureBoot bypass, I would surely buy one, and start messing with Android on it, the same way, as I am messing with WM10 stuff for my current (Android based) phone now
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Where had you seen iOS ported to Android phones? or viceversa?
Buddy, admit it! You want to do that just for feel hacker some time, no more. You could do that with things that are made for these purposes (like cooking ROMs, ex).
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I'd like to see android running on a lumia 640 .. would be cool