[Solved]sd card/apps2sd question - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

my G1 is working flawlessly with all the nifty features like apps2sd and compcache enabled. I showed my room mate some of the cool stuff you guys have been working your arses off for and he wanted me to put it on his.
Here's the issue. His SD card reader seems to be dying. We've tried multiple cards to see if it was a cheap card issue or what not. His cards just don't read half the time. We were wondering if it were at all possible to use either the latest cyan mod or something of the like WITHOUT apps2sd and compcache. A simple way to avoid setting up apps2sd would be wonderful.

you could just get rid of the apps2sd partition on the card and the app2sd wont be enabled

jad011 said:
you could just get rid of the apps2sd partition on the card and the app2sd wont be enabled
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That sucks.. (kinda seems pointless to do anything then.)
As he said above. Some rom's will run without a ext partition. CM'S rom's work without a ext partition.
I think all the Hero rom's require three partitions because just the rom it self is huge and will get a low memory warning.
Looks like fat32 for him.

awesome, thanks

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How do you check??

Well I'm having installation errors as stated before
so i reformated the fat32/ext3/linux swap
wiped then flashed as predicted it worked
but after some 40 downloads it started giving me errors saying Insufficient Storage available
or installation error
so what is it thats causing this
did i run out of memory on ext3
and if i did is there a way to check how much memory is left in ext3
Cuz i unistalled useless apps and im still getting this error
I've rebooted several times etc.
and its not working
how much memory for the ext3
and how many paid apps are you installing for some reason some of the paid apps trigger the internal storage counter Ex. anything from moblyng games will do this.
also try going into recovery select terminal and type
#parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
#print
tell me what you get
this sounds more like auto apps2sd not working but i want to see if the partitions show first
Im not using any actually
Lol i can barely afford the phone bill
oh and only 100Mb (Temporary) I'm going to buy new sdhc
You hink when i get the new sdhc it should work perfectly
oh and do you ever come across errors like this
watchyaself said:
Im not using any actually
Lol i can barely afford the phone bill
oh and only 100Mb (Temporary) I'm going to buy new sdhc
You hink when i get the new sdhc it should work perfectly
oh and do you ever come across errors like this
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yeah it should
you could also download this app install it and chek /system/apps/ to see if stuff is installing their
http://www.mediafire.com/?z05dzymmgtt

How do you combact the low memory issue?

I just recently bought a Nexus One, coming from a G2. I just wanted to have a second phone and picked up the nexus. Upon restoring apps from my G2 to the Nexus I was immediately promoted that my memory was full. I currently have about 56MB free on my phone after using APP2SD. I haven't tried the Darktremor A2SD yet because the last pages of the thread are filled with people that seem to be having trouble with it. I just wanted to know how you control the memory issue? Do you partition your sdcard, ext. Or, do you just keep a watchful eye on the apps you have installed?
Thanks for your replies.
Edit: I'm dreading having to update the rom with a full wipe because of the all the work to get the apps back up. I'm on CM7 and want to try sense but I don't want to have to restore some apps, move them over, restore move and move them over.
Moving App2SD only move the apps to the sd card while all other parts associatd with the apps still reside internally such as data. Apps with widgets will not work from sd card (the widget part). DT a2sd work much better and also allow moing the dalvik to sd which can free up a huge amount ot space internally.
Also apps with widgets work just fine when install to the ext section of the sd card.
i use an older version of DT a2sd 2.7.5.2 ( i stayed away from the latest beta as there's too much reported problems). I have no problems what so ever.
Close to 90 users installed apps and over 100mb left.
Is there any fallout to using that?
SD card can't be read in Windows by card reader, when it's partitioned for A2SD. Only in Linux. So if you take the card out of your phone frequently, and don't have Linux - you might not like it. Also, you become more dependent on SD card - if it dies, more of your data dies. Otherwise it's the right thing to do, the only thing that can actually make N1 usable with good amount of apps.
I have a laptop that dual boots into linux, or I can run a virtual PC as well. I NEVER put it in a PC, why would you...
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I have a laptop that dual boots into linux, or I can run a virtual PC as well. I NEVER put it in a PC, why would you...
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You wouldn't be able to read that partition either by plugging your phone into a Windows PC.
ddgarcia05 said:
I just recently bought a Nexus One, coming from a G2. I just wanted to have a second phone and picked up the nexus. Upon restoring apps from my G2 to the Nexus I was immediately promoted that my memory was full. I currently have about 56MB free on my phone after using APP2SD. I haven't tried the Darktremor A2SD yet because the last pages of the thread are filled with people that seem to be having trouble with it. I just wanted to know how you control the memory issue? Do you partition your sdcard, ext. Or, do you just keep a watchful eye on the apps you have installed?
Thanks for your replies.
Edit: I'm dreading having to update the rom with a full wipe because of the all the work to get the apps back up. I'm on CM7 and want to try sense but I don't want to have to restore some apps, move them over, restore move and move them over.
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This may help to a certain extent: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877793
I use the program websharing, would that still work? My guess is no.
your only real option is to use DT apps to SD. i too have been to lazy to try it out, but what i've read, its the only real solution. it will use the memory card as full on internal phone memory by tricking the OS. i'll get around to it soon...

[Q] Question about running CM7 off internal memory and HC on a SD card?

Currently I am running CM7 off internal memory and I have a SD card that has the apps and what-not on it.
I bought another SD card with the idea of making it a bootable Honeycomb install so I can try it out. I mean I completely enjoy CM7 and have everything set up perfectly the way I want it, but I also like trying new stuff.
So the question is this. Is it possible to do this in a way where the HC install won't affect the CM7 install? I mean when you go to install an app on HC would it put stuff on internal memory or somehow screw up the CM7 install? The idea is that when I want to go back to my stable CM7 I would just put its card in so the second HC card would just be for screwing around.
Anyway...that's the question. I'm guessing if I dug around enough and pulled information together from multiple threads I might figure it out, but perhaps others are interested in doing what I'm talking about too...so hopefully this is a useful post.
If you are running a ROM from SD, everything will be on the SD. The ROM is setup in such a way that it thinks the SD card is internal memory, so everything will get installed to it.
The only downside is that SD is much slower than internal (especially if you don't have a good card), so the experience usually suffers a bit.
You can certainly do this. I'm running stock 1.2 on EMMC and have a dualboot SD card of Phiremod(CM7) and Honeycomb (the latest version from Divine_Madcat). Nothing on internal is touched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
Regarding performance on SD, I have a transcend, class 6 that works flawlessly for CM7 and is a tad slow on Honeycomb. Might pickup a class 4 Sandisk tomorrow (if the price is right!) as i've heard that those are the best and are consistently faster.
Thanks guys. Got it going and its not half bad. I think that if the EVER release the source, this would be an awesome OS for the Nook.

[Q] Memory card not working properly!! :(

I bought a memory card from ebay its transcent sdhc 16 gb class 4.
when i am trying to copy big data to my memory card via data cable my pc hangs and doesnt allow me to do anything and then my cell phone also hangs.
but when am trying to copy data to memory card via another cellphone its working fine..
I am using MIUI XT Final V2.
Can anyone tell me whats wrong??
shrenn said:
I bought a memory card from ebay its transcent sdhc 16 gb class 4.
when i am trying to copy big data to my memory card via data cable my pc hangs and doesnt allow me to do anything and then my cell phone also hangs.
but when am trying to copy data to memory card via another cellphone its working fine..
I am using MIUI XT Final V2.
Can anyone tell me whats wrong??
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Try to transfer data thoruhg a card reader. Especially if it is a large amount like 3-5g of music. Moving data through the phone is fine in short bursts but I always founf it to be cleaner and faster through a card reader.
Woodrube said:
Try to transfer data thoruhg a card reader. Especially if it is a large amount like 3-5g of music. Moving data through the phone is fine in short bursts but I always founf it to be cleaner and faster through a card reader.
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Speaking of memory cards, how did you fix your 32gb Woodrube? I have 3 sd cards failing on me and not sure why. They work for a bit then fail again.
LibertyMonger said:
Speaking of memory cards, how did you fix your 32gb Woodrube? I have 3 sd cards failing on me and not sure why. They work for a bit then fail again.
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Man it sucked big time for so long but I was able to find a corrupted file on there and had to use File Assassin from Malwarebytes.org to delete it. Even then, it didn't want to go. I reformated it full fat and used the "slow" process that filled in 1's and 0's. It happened when I went to CM6.1 the first time.
Think I may have borked it myself during an bad install and then it would never work correctly. I use MiniTool Partition Wizard (I don't like GParted b/c you lose all your data. With MTPW, your FAT data is still there when you want to resize yout ext/swap) to set my partitions and once that was done, I would try to reinstall that same file. Wasn't until I figured out that it was causing so many problems, but it was the only ROM that would boot up. If I used it and then wanted to go to Wanhu or HM's ROMs (this was a few months ago), when I would restore those, it would break the partition and would never boot up. Wouldn't loop in the traditional sense where the animation would run then disappear and the run again, it would just continually run.
Not saying it is CM6 or anything like that, I just think I got a bad download or operator error and a corrupt file hit my card. I just reformatted to full Fat and no partitions and it works fine (for now). It was only the partitions that would not work. I would run MZor sd-ext test and it was horrible with all the errors it showed. I had been deciding to format full fat anyways and stay away from partitioning (I don't and never have used swap), and I have to say I think it is really better that way. I only have about 50+/-apps so my Dalvik isn't even close to filling up and half of them I don't even use.
OK thanks buddy! Looks like thats what I might have to do. So what would be the best method to move Apps over then with just fat32? If you have any advice for me I sure would appreciate it
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LibertyMonger said:
OK thanks buddy! Looks like thats what I might have to do. So what would be the best method to move Apps over then with just fat32? If you have any advice for me I sure would appreciate it
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On my wife's XT, i am just using the native Froyo app2sd (settings>manage apps>select app>move to sd [there is also an app in the market called Move2sd enabler that will move "non-movable" apps to the SD card]). Don't move any widgets to SD card though. On my Vibrant, I have't moved a single one over to the SD yet and have 1.5g left on internal.
FYI if you get an error when downloading an app from the market and it says,
"App not installed
Unknown Error-18"
Don't freak out, it is a known Froyo bug. All you have to do is plug your phone into your computer and look in the .Androidsecure folder (make sure you have show hidden folders checked on your PC) and delete this file.
smdl2tmp1.asec
You can do it through terminal on your phone too but sometimes it repopulates if you do it this way
su
rm mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec
Sorry for the thread hijack but it is kind of a fix for some SD problems.
the original microSD that came with the phone is kinda shady
mine had some problems, had to format it twice to get it working right
a friend of mine even worse, after a few use it died completely

Optimal sdcard setup?

Hi all. I just received the 32GB sdcard that I ordered for my Bionic. I've never really paid much attention to how my storage has been formatted, partitioned, but I got to wondering about it and happened to find this HUGE thread about different formats (fat32, fat, ext4, ext3, other stuff I don't understand, etc).
It went through partitioning, formatting, and a slew of other stuff that is WAAAAAAAAY over my head. The one thing it never did was tell me how to set up my sdcard for optimal performance.
Can someone please help?
kwest12 said:
Hi all. I just received the 32GB sdcard that I ordered for my Bionic. I've never really paid much attention to how my storage has been formatted, partitioned, but I got to wondering about it and happened to find this HUGE thread about different formats (fat32, fat, ext4, ext3, other stuff I don't understand, etc).
It went through partitioning, formatting, and a slew of other stuff that is WAAAAAAAAY over my head. The one thing it never did was tell me how to set up my sdcard for optimal performance.
Can someone please help?
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If you want to occasionally pull the SD card out and mount directly in a Windows laptop, keep it FAT32. If you're never going to mount the SD card directly on a Windows box (ie through the phone instead) keep it ext3 or ext4. I'm not aware of performance differences between the two on Android.
But then again I could be full of s#!t. That was just my initial thoughts on the subject. Personally I've never toyed with actually partitioning an SD card.
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If you want to occasionally pull the SD card out and mount directly in a Windows laptop, keep it FAT32. If you're never going to mount the SD card directly on a Windows box (ie through the phone instead) keep it ext3 or ext4. I'm not aware of performance differences between the two on Android.
But then again I could be full of s#!t. That was just my initial thoughts on the subject. Personally I've never toyed with actually partitioning an SD card.
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Thanks for the reply. I am about to just toss the card in to my phone and format it right in there and just get going.
Yeah I usually leave it up to the phone.
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Does anyone know if journaling in ext3/ext4 would take effect on the card in android? If so, it could make a difference, although nothing really noticeable.
The downfall of the default fat32 format is you wouldn't be able to store files larger than 4GB on the card (also it won't support symbolic links). The only upside is, as previously mentioned, windows can read it directly
typed on my Bionic

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