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T-Mobile Sidekick Data Plan on the Kaiser Tilt 8925

Sup,
Has anyone tried using the Sidekick data plan on WinMo5/6? My friends looking to get an unlocked AT&T Tilt and use it on T-Mobile. He's jumping ship from being a Sidekick user to WinMo, and he wants to keep his unlimited web and messaging for the $30 hes paying along with his voice plan.
Thanks.

Sidekick data plan won't work, since it only allows you online through Danger's backend servers.
However, T-Mobile's regular unlimited data plan is also only $29.99, so a simple call to customer service can switch plans.
Of course, the Sidekick's data services won't work with the regular unlimited data plan, so he'd have to pick one and stick with it.

I found an option for $19.99 T-Mobile Total Internet along with a voice plan. I think he'll just go for that one. Converted him from a SK, muahaha

does the sms through gprs work for wm phones? I know it was hit or miss back with my old nokia. If it does, outgoing shouldn't cost anything. And a bucket for incoming would be ok.
Also, how much are blackberry plans? I remember hearing people say to choose the blackberry to get unlimited internet and sms

AT&T Tilt with BlackBerry Connect - can't use on a BlackBerry plan?

After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!

i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net
i can't speak to the international plans however.
I would ask to speak to some other rep. The support for blackberry connect is well documented on their web site.

Alibaba0101 said:
i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net.
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Thanks! I did try a few reps today - of course I couldn't get the same one I had last week who told me it would work!
Did you need to get the media.net plan for data? I thought with the regular blackberry plan you would get both data and e-mail on the Tilt if you were using the blackberry connect software?
Did they give you an actual blackberry plan? They said I had to have a "blackberry connect" plan, and not a regular blackberry plan.

I bought my tilt online and selected the plan that way. I even had a rep call me asking why I had it on there. I told them I am not the account holder and they better not make any changes to the account. They didn't. Sorry if this didn't help you, just for any other people looking to do the same thing.

I wonder if you bought an old Blackberry phone and called them with the IMIE if they would activate that phone then just switch the SIM.

Call back again and tell them you want the PDA Connect for BlackBerry® Connect Unlimited . The code is KRB9

I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.

kaydee said:
After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!
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I had a similar problem. The "solution" they set up for me is the pda blackberry connect unlimited combined with a 20Mb pda smart international plan. That gives me 20Mb a month of international data in about twenty countries (the list has probably grown) without roaming data rates. This works OK for me because country I cared about (Japan) is on the list. Heck, the only reason I bought the Tilt was because it would work in Japan and BBConnect is available for it. The only problem is the 20Mb limit. That isn't a big problem for me because I'm not there for large stretches of time. YMMV.
If that works for you, great. If not, take it back and wait a couple of weeks for the Blackberry Bold. It will also have 2100MHz UMTS and you can get the BB International plan.

I managed to get them to set it up by getting a BlackBerry Bold and giving them the IMEI. I never actually opened the Bold box - just used the IMEI to convince them to give me the plan.
I put the SIM in the tilt, installed the Blackberry Connect and all seems to be well.
The BlackBerry International plan is the only one with unlimited data, and since I spend most of my time outside of the USA, the other "Connect" plans just won't work for me.
I have a question about the media.net - I assume I won't be charged for data on it since I have the BB International plan that includes unlimited data? Has anyone else used this?
Alibaba0101 said:
I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.
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G1 with Blackberry data plan? (currently working)

Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?

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Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?
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Do tell... WHAT is an "android" data plan?
Android phones do NOT require any special data provisions. ANY GENERIC DATA PLAN is fine.

Well T-Mobile used to have a Blackberry unlimited data plan. with unlimited messages for $34.99 and an Android unlimited data plan with unlimited messages for $34.99. Those have been replaced with the Even More plans. But my wife still has the grandfathered Blackberry plan. Everyone I've asked said the data wouldn't work because of the APNs and even if it did T-Mobile would be able to tell I was using a G1 on a Blackberry data plan and they would shut it down.
I was just wondering if anyone had used a blackberry data plan successfully in the past or are still using one. If I have to change anything the plan will go up $10 ($30 for data and $15 for unlimited text)

I took my wife from a BB to a Nexus One. No calls to T Mobile and our bill started showing two Android Data Plans. Same thing.... no need to call unless her data suddenly acts funky.

That's good news. Of course when she tries to upgrade to the mytouch slide soon then we may have to deal with that.
Thanks

MrBigFeathers said:
Well T-Mobile used to have a Blackberry unlimited data plan. with unlimited messages for $34.99 and an Android unlimited data plan with unlimited messages for $34.99. Those have been replaced with the Even More plans. But my wife still has the grandfathered Blackberry plan. Everyone I've asked said the data wouldn't work because of the APNs and even if it did T-Mobile would be able to tell I was using a G1 on a Blackberry data plan and they would shut it down.
I was just wondering if anyone had used a blackberry data plan successfully in the past or are still using one. If I have to change anything the plan will go up $10 ($30 for data and $15 for unlimited text)
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Three things to say about this;
1) RIM phones require *extra* provisions, but still require the STANDARD provisions, therefore a RIM-compatible data plan will work with any phone, but a regular data plan won't work with a RIM phone. This is a matter of RIM phones being horribly crippled and VERY VERY poorly designed.
2) Anything between you and YOUR CARRIER has nothing to do with this forum. I suggest you consult your carrier for instructions on this.
3) You never even mentioned what carrier you were using, therefore NOBODY could possibly make any reasonable guess about what their responses will be.

few things to note...
1, if your using Tmobile, i know enough to answer your questions,
- blackberries have their own server farms for data (email especially, but all data for a blackberry goes through a "blackberry" channel.
- androids, also have their own seperate channels or farms that handle all of their data,
however, if you have any data plan, and simply pop your sim into any smartphone, it should work for a while, until your connection gets a time failure, or gets red flagged for requesting (or getting) too much bandwidth.
this is known as blackballing, and you can even trick the system sometimes, by putting your sim back in your old phone, calling tmo, and telling them to open mtas, (or something like that) and addressing that connection (tier 3 can do it in about 5 minutes if they know wtf is up).
but for this channelized crap to work, they are separating the non-tmobile brand phones, into a more simplified system for them...
this way, i guess, when blackberries have a massive outage (like when the Storm was released, and every storm on the planet had to get updated, and that killed all the servers, all the blackberries had no-connection at all, for about 3 days...)
my point, is if one system fails, at least other clients (with other phones) are not effected.
sofar, my g1 has been very reliable and fast with out any data plan at all.
screw their overpriced data, and run wifi.
older, sneaky people were using tzones to get full data plan for 10bucks, and just calling in every 2 weeks to get their MTAS updated, or unlocked...
thats been resolved by now, but hopefully you get the picture. and i havent confused anyone,

MrBigFeathers said:
Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?
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it should fail at some point, and you don't want RIM or blackberry to handle android stuff anyways.
get the android plan, but before you do, go to www.google.com and search for " speedtest " and compare your actual speeds before and after the switch.
would be interesting if there was a huge diference.

[Q] Captivate/iPhone data swap?

Just curious if i order my captivate from amazon's wireless center(since it's cheaper than at&T) can i just put my iphone 3gs sim card in it and start using its data services? Downloading,uploading, etc. or do i have to call at&t and activate something for this device instead?

The new data plans are all the same across platforms, but if you're like me and are grandfathered into the unlimited data plan, then you're going to have to have the feature changed on your account. Unlimited Iphone data and Unlimited Smartphone data are two seperate features.

do not call in to have it switched from the iPhone data plan to the smartphone plan if you want to be able to swap back *easily* to an iPhone.
The iPhone data plan works fine on both the captivate and iPhone.
The Smartphone data plan only works with the Captivate - and requires APN changing with the iPhone, which may not work.

Be careful ordering the phone through Amazon wireless because it doesn't help you grandfather the unlimited plan to the Captivate. When you check out you have to select a new data plan, by doing so AT&T won't be able to honor your unlimited data plan. Luckily I was able to call AT&T and correct it. Amazon includes a new sim card that you activate over the phone.

I second just putting your iPhone sim into the Captivate, that is exactly what I did and I've had no problems since. I also was able to swap back and forth btw and iPhone and the Captivate with no problems as well because the data plan is still the iPhone plan on my bill. I don't know how it works with a phone that's been activated on a new sim card however.

mikejames07 said:
I second just putting your iPhone sim into the Captivate, that is exactly what I did and I've had no problems since. I also was able to swap back and forth btw and iPhone and the Captivate with no problems as well because the data plan is still the iPhone plan on my bill. I don't know how it works with a phone that's been activated on a new sim card however.
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You can do this, but at some point AT&T may re-adjust your plan (still unlimited). It should not matter if the phone shipped with a new SIM card or not - as there is no activation procedure on GSM phones. AT&T likes to know the IMEI number of your phone, but they don't stop service over it.
I have a friend that tests phones for one manufacturer - they ship him a new phone every month or so (mostly android) and he just pops his iPhone SIM in and goes. A couple times he would put his SIM back in the phone and have no data and he would have to call to get it fixed.
As for Amazon - make sure you are getting the phone on upgrade and not new service. If it is new service then they expect you to keep your old line active too.

i read that iphone sim cards are specifically programmed to work with iphones only. it could be a load of crap...but it's what i heard.

My data didn't work when swapping my sim from my 3GS to my Captivate. I had to change features from the unlimited iPhone data to the unlimited Smartphone data.

The "Holy Grail" - Tab with International Phone + 3g Data

I have a T-Mo tab/T-Mo contracted service (for another year) running OC Hermes (which totally rocks!).
Problem is, I want to use my Tab as my phone (light phone use, but I need it to ring and answer it when I need it, hence I have to lose T-Mo/modem switch. I need 3G data - who doesn't? Use is in Domestic US with Europe for a month out of the year - seems simple enough.
I have a depricated VZ Winmo 6.5 device with my "real" number, and found a 3rd party SIM (Tru) that will let you port your number, and provide "reasonable" cost US Domestic and European Voice and Data roaming, so I can get voice/data service and keep my number.
Now I just need to figure out which Tab to buy:
Can the AT&T Tab be customized to work with voice and 3G data simultaneously without modem/switching, and if so, on which SIM/Network(s) in the US other than AT&T?
If I were to replace my T-Mo Unit, should I buy the AT&T or the European Tab?
Will either get this done? Thanks all in advance for any help.
- Cathy

would also like to know the answer to this...

T-mobile tab with t-mobile sim:
Voice, sms, mms, and EDGE data **or** 3g data only.
Flash any rom besides stock to get the dialer capability. Use the Rotohammer modem switch to go between these options. If you are on the 3g mode the phone won't ring, your caller will get the same thing as if they called you when your phone was turned off. You have to delete a system folder to enable web browsing.
At&t tab with at&t sim:
Voice, sms, mms, 3g data, no switch necessary.
Flash any rom besides stock to get the dialer capability. No system files to tinker with.
#####At&t tab with at&t sim is the easiest, best option for a complete phone and data experience.

Thank you @Rangercaptain!
@Rangercapain, you are a gentleman and a scholar!
I thought AT&T did both now, but the info on the boards conflicts, some because it is dated before you fine folks figured this all out, and some because newer users haven't flashed a custom ROM, but I wanted to be sure before sinking another $350 into a dead-end with the telephony.
I was contemplating the SGSII but at $700 US and without Alter's incredible ROM for everything else, it wasn't going to work, and I really don't want two devices.
I realize T-Mo is on the funky 1700 band here so I knew non-T-Mo SIMs were likely only going to get me 2G, but I wasn't sure about AT&T.
If I go with the AT&T Tab, do you know if the 3rd party SIMs like SimpleMobile or Tru Mobile will also do both 3G and voice? AT&T rapes you like everyone else US domestic on Euro Roaming Data ($15/mb is insanity), and I was foolishly hopiing for a SIM that I could use here and in Europe without re-mortaging the house!
Can I determine this definitively by confirming the GSM bands specified by the SIM reseller?
Thank you thank you thank you

My at&t voice, unlimited text, and 2 gigs of data is $35 per month. Like you said, don't use the pay as you go, because that is crazy. Have you seen the Walmart phone/data pay as you go - Straight Talk I think. I will check it out and post back here.
SimpleMobile is exactly the same as T-mobile, so not good with at&t tab or euro tab. I haven't heard of TruMobile. Just google "trumobile frequencies". You want to see 1900/900 or 1900/850.

Straight Talk is a no-go. They sell phones, not sim cards.

rangercaptain said:
T-mobile tab with t-mobile sim:
At&t tab with at&t sim:
Voice, sms, mms, 3g data, no switch necessary.
Flash any rom besides stock to get the dialer capability. No system files to tinker with.
#####At&t tab with at&t sim is the easiest, best option for a complete phone and data experience.
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does it have a minimum data plan requirement? have an ATT iphone4 with the $15 200MB data plan. can i just put my iphone simcard on the GalTab? will i get the dreaded text messages from BIG BROTHER? or will it suffice? or will i be asked to upgrade to a higher data plan?
TIA
jeraldyne

tanjeraldyne said:
does it have a minimum data plan requirement? have an ATT iphone4 with the $15 200MB data plan. can i just put my iphone simcard on the GalTab? will i get the dreaded text messages from BIG BROTHER? or will it suffice? or will i be asked to upgrade to a higher data plan?
TIA
jeraldyne
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You can put that sim in your tab, and you won't get the dreaded message. They are after unlimited iphone plans. But you will BURN through 200mb in about 20 minutes. Study your at&t bill, then add 1gig for $15, or 2gigs for $25 (my plan).

Tru Mobile is at&t compatable, but the data works out to $350 per gigabyte.

Global SIMs
@Rangercaptain -
You are right about the data cost, but overseas, that is a "bargain" compared to roaming rates even on AT&T. They have a fixed data rate for "business" customers that is pretty competitive ($30/month 500mb in the US, $60 if you are in the UK or AUS, and they are adding 20 more countries in 2012). I may try them for a little while (till I return in late September) since I can always go to AT&T later (there is no contract) if I want to.
Did AT&T let you get a SIM for the tab that does both voice and data without any gripes? Maybe I can just go AT&T, port my number over, and get a MaxRoam for overseas.
I have been researching this like crazy, and at .80 Euro/MB they are about the cheapest I could find for "global" roaming, but they are one of those pay-go cos that eat your balance if you don't use it.
We are in 11 countries (a cruise) and there is no feasible way to buy a SIM in every port, or all I will have seen at the end of this odyssey will have been a ton of Vodaphone stores .
Thank you so much again!

I bought the tab at a retail store and told them I didn't want any contract. A few days later I added a 2 gig per month data and voice plan to a family plan. I told them it was for an android phone I had at home. They gave me the sim and I went out, and put it in the tab, and whammo! So sweet, 3g and voice.
When you are overseas there are so many pay as you go options, but yes, it could involve a lot of phone shops. No way to buy vodafone or orange sim and pay the roaming? And I'm guessing the cruise ship and hotels will have wifi for free. There are methods to make voice calls when you are on awifi connection, called skype.