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Most stable ROM?

If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.

captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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Cyanogen's latest non-experimental builds are probably your best bet. They're fast, stable, bluetooth, GPS, and of course WiFi.
If you want the awesome Hero Clock, look on the market for Beautiful Widgets or Weather Widget - donate for $1.49 or something like that.

captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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First...welcome to XDA, second...just make sure you don't fall victim to useless Threads or Post (Like most Noobs do) without doing some extensive searching, pretend your a Ninja creeping through the Forums learning and observing and when you feel confident...Attack!!! (Meaning make your Thread or Post) Clearly I'm not talking about this Thread as you posted in the correct section...so on to your question, you say you want stability well look no further than CyanogenMod v. 3.6.8.1 but if your feeling edgy then upgrade to CyanogenMod v. 3.9.1...obviously Root your G1 first and then flash Cyanogen's Recovery Image v. 1.4 to complete the ROM. Everything you need is here in XDA-Developers/Dream...have fun.
P.S. Since your a fan of Hero also, once your done everything I recommend flashing the Dark Hero theme.

Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.

katsup2005 said:
Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
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The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.

Diceman4 said:
The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
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+1 cyan 3.6.8.1 is great

cyanogen's rom is the best very stable n fast.

Recommend the CRC1 Based ROM here Or cyanogen!

I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?

captsammy said:
I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
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fat32, ext2 (upgrade to ext3 using upgrade_fs command in recovery console). You can throw in linux-swap but you'll have to configure it your self with a a2sd script.

What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.

captsammy said:
What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
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Use gparted. Ext3 should be about 600-700mb so give the rest for fat32. You must start with fat32 and then ext3. Must be in that order.

I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.

How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?

captsammy said:
How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
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bump for an answer to this?

Best rogers rom is Soulife's... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608
HTC Dialer looks up contacts as you are dialing, it's really slick. You can type out a name via the numbers, or a number, it'll sort and bring up the matches from contacts. Soulife's rogers is MEGA stable, no force closes, lightning fast with the bonus features like Exchange and HTC Dialer.
Plus there is a version that doesn't require the new SPL if you wish to not risk a brick. In my opinion, this outshines Cyan's.
It comes stock with normal/factory theme. If you want there is a kickass Hero theme available as well for the ROM.

vr24 said:
I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
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Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release

zimphishmonger said:
Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
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Work Email is not a real exchange a solution. It doesn't sync contacts or calendar.

You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).

NeoBlade said:
You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
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Dude is actually working on Soulife's Rogers ROM now.

new UI choices?

hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas

I'm in the same boat as ya. Been trying out different UIs mainly hero and stock ui. I somehow always end up back at the stock ui well cyanogen's ui. I'd say just stick with the fastest ui for now until hero is running completely smooth or buy the htc hero itself. =D

There is also OMS but a working port has yet to surface. There were some folks working on it a couple months ago, but I think they are waiting on a full dump of the Dopod a6188 (the China mobile version of Sapphire/Magic) which runs it. If you want to see what OMS looks like do a video search for Lenovo OPhone.

gurnted said:
There is also OMS but a working port has yet to surface. There were some folks working on it a couple months ago, but I think they are waiting on a full dump of the Dopod a6188 (the China mobile version of Sapphire/Magic) which runs it. If you want to see what OMS looks like do a video search for Lenovo OPhone.
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Your right, we're waiting for xDan to get this dump so can be ported over to dream. Also there is alot of themes (if you look in the theme section) There in a format of a update.zip.

the blur was announced this week. idk if ok to port because im not sure the ui is open.

anyone know whats the most stable hero rom out at the moment?

veritasaequita said:
hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas
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theres ahome, dxtop, and some other ui i cant remember. u can download from market.
they sit on top of cupcake builds. idk how to explain it, tired now. just message me
hero is a ui that sit over the stock android.

brian_v3ntura said:
theres ahome, dxtop, and some other ui i cant remember. u can download from market.
they sit on top of cupcake builds. idk how to explain it, tired now. just message me
hero is a ui that sit over the stock android.
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yea i noticed hero was just sittin on cupcake when i deleted and replaced rosie.apk.....ive used all the home replacements and there all nice but they each have there own major drawbacks, plus its just fun to switch to something that technically shouldnt be there, thats just how i roll...veritas

veritasaequita said:
hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas
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Yah, the Motorola "Blur" (mentioned in early post) for the Cliq phone would be the next option I think besides the Hero and stock G1. But the cliq is like an 850mhtz phone..If it can be ported, it will prolly have to be cut down to run smooth on G1 and the Hero UI on a G1 still has its issues after months and months of work by XDA devs. Not sure what is in store with the Samsung Bigfoot as far as UI goes, Haven't seen any UI pics, may just be stock donut. LG has an android phone coming out for UK only at this point, but that looks like stock donut.

integlspwr said:
anyone know whats the most stable hero rom out at the moment?
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they're all pretty stable at this point. Try Jac2.1 or Hero2. Both are working pretty good for me.

nolimit78 said:
they're all pretty stable at this point. Try Jac2.1 or Hero2. Both are working pretty good for me.
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I think i'll try jac2.1
do you have a step be step link on how to flash it on my factory g1?

integlspwr said:
I think i'll try jac2.1
do you have a step be step link on how to flash it on my factory g1?
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actually jac 2.1 is not even close to be stable when compared to modaco / akirahs 1.5.1 and jacs 1.6r2a.
2.1 still has bugs that older builds like 1.5.1 and 1.6r2a dont have.

tep065 said:
Yah, the Motorola "Blur" (mentioned in early post) for the Cliq phone would be the next option I think besides the Hero and stock G1. But the cliq is like an 850mhtz phone..If it can be ported, it will prolly have to be cut down to run smooth on G1 and the Hero UI on a G1 still has its issues after months and months of work by XDA devs. Not sure what is in store with the Samsung Bigfoot as far as UI goes, Haven't seen any UI pics, may just be stock donut. LG has an android phone coming out for UK only at this point, but that looks like stock donut.
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3.1″ HVGA Touch Screen, 320×480 pixels
Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 MHz
512 MB ROM, 256 RAM
114mm x 58mm x 15.6mm
the click is not a 850mhz phone. its 528mhz as you can see. and 256 ram... which is less than hero(288mb) so prolly BLUR might run smoother than hero when fully optimized.
the only android phone that has a processor higher than 600mhz is the sony ericsson xperia x3(rachael) at 1ghz

yeah i have thinking of trading in my g1 for a cliq next month. but the new "ui" is basically widgets that are attached to a blur account. so i dont see this is working on the the g1 we will most likely get a launcher that has 5 home screens and the colors but i doubt much else.

Best cooked rom in your opinion?

I have a sprint cdma touch diamond, and i got really tired of the stock so i decided to start played around with it. What is the best rom in your opinion available now? Right now I have the latest 7 version of Juicy which is pretty cool, but the keyboard is really laggy and it doesnt have sprint picture mail.

bavman said:
I have a sprint cdma touch diamond, and i got really tired of the stock so i decided to start played around with it. What is the best rom in your opinion available now? Right now I have the latest 7 version of Juicy which is pretty cool, but the keyboard is really laggy and it doesnt have sprint picture mail.
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Take a look here.
http://sites.google.com/site/window...om-s/htc-touch-diamond/HTC-Touch-Diamond-CDMA
I like the Energy ROM, Or Culkulins
There is just a few ROM's listed there at the moment.
P.S. Don't frown on me sending bavman to my own web site, I think it will help.

I still like Mighty ROM 4 (final)... its WM6.1 and solid...

talontsi07 said:
Take a look here.
http://sites.google.com/site/window...om-s/htc-touch-diamond/HTC-Touch-Diamond-CDMA
I like the Energy ROM, Or Culkulins
There is just a few ROM's listed there at the moment.
P.S. Don't frown on me sending bavman to my own web site, I think it will help.
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Just an FYI. OMJ's latest does have a Sense 2.1. He puts out excellent roms, and maybe more importantly is very responsive to questions and problems. Finally, he has made his kitchen available and several templates for those wanting to further customize.

[Q]best rom on my g1

yo wassup people
i got my g1 on cyanogen nigtly 25x or 27x some **** like that...
it has the kernel with extra memory and also that new radio...
so right now i wondder, since ive been out of the game for like a month or 2
what is the overall best rom you would choose?
i know that the gingerbread roms arent gonna be 100% even tho cyanogen got someone workin on it, so i wont ask about those...
but what about this new froyo by laszlo? or biffmod? sparksmod? how do they stack up?
i do a lot of reading but it dont help much and im already too busy so i cant actually test them all right now... so i wonder does anyone have prior experience with these mentioned roms, or possibly better ones...
any response would be appreciated thanks

kac123ige said:
yo wassup people
i got my g1 on cyanogen nigtly 25x or 27x some **** like that...
it has the kernel with extra memory and also that new radio...
so right now i wondder, since ive been out of the game for like a month or 2
what is the overall best rom you would choose?
i know that the gingerbread roms arent gonna be 100% even tho cyanogen got someone workin on it, so i wont ask about those...
but what about this new froyo by laszlo? or biffmod? sparksmod? how do they stack up?
i do a lot of reading but it dont help much and im already too busy so i cant actually test them all right now... so i wonder does anyone have prior experience with these mentioned roms, or possibly better ones...
any response would be appreciated thanks
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Cyanogen has got nobody working on gingerbread on G1. EzTerry is the legacy master for G1 gingerbread and many variations of his gingerbread roms have become available. The best I found and currently using is Ginger Yoshi by Yoshua. You can find it in the HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC forum. Its almost hundred percent. Very fast and cool. Try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932118
(If you like it click the "Thanks" button on the left. Will appreciate it.) ;-D

dilwaladoctor said:
Cyanogen has got nobody working on gingerbread on G1. EzTerry is the legacy master for G1 gingerbread and many variations of his gingerbread roms have become available. The best I found and currently using is Ginger Yoshi by Yoshua. You can find it in the HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC forum. Its almost hundred percent. Very fast and cool. Try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932118
(If you like it click the "Thanks" button on the left. Will appreciate it.) ;-D
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no no recently i read a post, said that someone else has taken over the gingerbread development for cyanogen.... i dunno ask him but thats wat they said... what about these froyo roms? i think im gonna flash thihs laszlo rom...

kac123ige said:
no no recently i read a post, said that someone else has taken over the gingerbread development for cyanogen.... i dunno ask him but thats wat they said... what about these froyo roms? i think im gonna flash thihs laszlo rom...
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They have been talking about Cyanogen taking on (or asking somebody to take on) gingerbread for G1/Magic since the day gingerbread was announced but that has been categorically denied by Cyanogen himself several times. As for trying Froyo roms goes, its your choice brother......but its a huge PSYCHOLOGICAL pleasure and satisfaction when you see "ANDROID VERSION 2.3.2" written in your phone settings......that phone which is two and a half years old....well I love it that we dream/sapphire users have fast and cool gingerbread roms while Samsung Galaxy people have just got froyo only.........LOL

kac123ige said:
no no recently i read a post, said that someone else has taken over the gingerbread development for cyanogen.... i dunno ask him but thats wat they said... what about these froyo roms? i think im gonna flash thihs laszlo rom...
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You should definitely try FroyoByLaszlo. Its probably the best ROM I've ever used. I've been using it since v1, and I usually never stay on a ROM for this long. It's by far way faster than any other Froyo ROM I've used. Plus, there's quite a lot of themes for it, so you can do a lot of customizing.
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MattDrumz said:
You should definitely try FroyoByLaszlo. Its probably the best ROM I've ever used. I've been using it since v1, and I usually never stay on a ROM for this long. It's by far way faster than any other Froyo ROM I've used. Plus, there's quite a lot of themes for it, so you can do a lot of customizing.
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is froyo by laslo faster than biffmod? im new to the android scene and just got a g1 3 days ago.
my main concern, is speed, and battery, thanks very much! really appreciate

azrash said:
is froyo by laslo faster than biffmod? im new to the android scene and just got a g1 3 days ago.
my main concern, is speed, and battery, thanks very much! really appreciate
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Laszlo is fast and from what I've been reading, has good battery life. I'm actually downloading the rom now to try out the new version. I've been using CM 6.1. That is also a good rom. You might want to try both of them and maybe other roms to. Just to see which one you like. Use them for a few days so you can check stability and batterylife.

Thanks man, I am currently using ezterry's AOSP and I can tell you that it is much2 faster than biffmod, you guys should try it! you have to upgrade the spl and radio first but it is not hard!
Happy flashingggg!!
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Laszlo is fast and from what I've been reading, has good battery life. I'm actually downloading the rom now to try out the new version. I've been using CM 6.1. That is also a good rom. You might want to try both of them and maybe other roms to. Just to see which one you like. Use them for a few days so you can check stability and batterylife.
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Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

[Q] best rom G1?

hi...
last night i ported honeycomb 3.0 on my G1, and was hoping for a special experience, but as tonnes of things failed to work, flashed sense hero v1.5.
i have G1 qwertz, so the keyboard response is not perfect in the rom.
i have tried a number of other roms also. ginger yoshi was nice but had some problem with my network. froyo yoshi-i didnt hoo with that for long....
cm6 was okay...
i am loving the UI of sense rom though...
also, i had bought an extended 2850mAh battery on eBay but i dont think it's performing the way i expected 4-6 hrs at max on these roms
any suggestions??
thanks in advance...
btw, my 1st Qn.....

lol even though it's your first question... there are over 100 posts of people asking the same question... and the same answer applies... depends on the flasher (you)
now you say you like sense roms, only downfall is NO sense rom, i repeat NOOOO sense rom for the G1 has a working camcorder or bluetooth... NONE!!!! lol
k now that i got that out the way...
my suggestions...
1st. my rom of coarse SenseLX (great rom and the team and i keep it up to date and add features here and there for people in need, all you have to do is ask...)
2nd.. gingerbread with sense thisrom is still in development but omg it is amazing!!! trust me just try it you will be impressed... i haven't tested it in a while because i been busy keeping my rom updated but last time i tried it my mind was blown!!!! simply amazing for a G1 lol
3rd... Magic Sense this rom is by namit1994, who was a great help in the development of my SenseLX rom, he recently ported this rom for the G1 and has been busy working on it so you should be impressed with this also if you like sense
besides those 3.. you just have to read around the forums and kinda figure out what you like most... there many varieties of sense roms for the G1, people have worked very hard on these roms so they would appreciate a simple click of the thanks button! lol as would I but yeah so good luck with your rom hunt and dont forget to thank the developers for all there hard work!!

thnx a lot
will try sense lx 1st...
wanted a gingerbread only, basically...
thnx again!!!

You can also try SuperAosp 6.4, it had been doing good for me and I am happy with it.

I'm using Froyo by Laszlo for about 5 months, that's a great and stable rom.

Cyanogen is good

Just flashed Cyanogen 7.1. It's nice, true.

is cm 7 stable??? heard it's not yet...
flashed ginger yoshi(again)...it's nice and speedy...i have problems at times regarding my network(receiving messages)...can that be because of the radio(2.22.28.25) atm...
i tried the sense roms,but they take up some amount of space making the device a wee bit slow for me cos ds looked decent though

So, CM-best?
Hi guys and girls,
Im beginner around here, so be patient with me.
So, ok, when i was reading the first reply, i was like, yes, sence is nice. Have tried some Hero rom on my G1, that was on an sdcard that i got with the phone. Putted it using rom manager on it. But then somehow i felt that those eye candy things are less important for me then nice functionality of the system.
So as i see CM is most complete and most popular rom that should be quite good. Or one of the best i guess.
But i what i am wondering. I have now CM6 on my G1. And sometimes its kind of a littlebit slow you know. So one question i have, would an earlier version CM5 for example be some kind of faster? Althou i have read on wikipedia android page that "2.2 (Froyo) introduced speed improvements with JIT optimization and the Chrome V8 JavaScript engine". And that CM6 is based on 2.2. So it kind of not supposed to be slower.
Basicly Microsoft Exchange support would be nice to have for me. Because im IT pro and it was nice expirience to have both, personal and work email on my last phone i used (nokia 5800). As i see CM5 can do that. Since exchange support is since version 2.0/2.1 as i see on internet. But then would CM5 be any faster then CM6? And is CM7 slower?
Also bluetooth and camera support is pretty nice to have. So i would rather go with CM i think then, then with SenceLX. Althou its nice to have something like that. Let's imagine if i didnt need bluetooth and camera, then i can use it i guess.
Thanks in advance,
MVG,
Nikolai
edit: or is it time to get a faster phone? Because i actually just got the G1. Because i havent found anything better with full keyboard. And BB 8520 has no GPS, and no auto focus, and no Android. So i took G1. But i guess it maybe can be better with something faster. Tell me what do you think.

sense lx looks wow!!!! pretty good...but i couldnt have it running for me as a daily use rom....i was on eclair,htc clay's super bad for almost 7 months and loved it...also tried a few froyo's which were nice....
didnt fancy cm's much....
yoshi is really good...ginger yoshi ofcourse better than froyo yoshi...
also, cos ds gingerbread is worth a try!!!
mind u, for all the gingerbreads u need to have the latest radio and spl(2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 with 1.33.0013)...

if you want smoothness and functionality i would suggest a stable froyo rom, but update your radio to 2708/2825 for the extra 15mb ram hack adds some speed to the device... my personal favorite was froyo by laszlo with ezbifftest 2708 kernel but it hasn't been updated in so long so im sure there's more stable froyo roms available... i've just been busy keeping senselx up to date and currently me and maximo are building a froyo rom from source so once thats at a stable point i will reccomend it and would love some testers and opinions

THAT'S LOVELY...WOULD LOVE TO TRY THE FROYO, STABLE OFCOURSE!!!!
currently hooked to gingeryoshi

I like Ginger Yoshi also.

I see here is great info on topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079194