Hi!
Is there a dummies guide somewhere to explain the build numbers and so forth?
I'm not entirely sure whether picking the "latest and greatest" is about just getting the bigger build number, or whether there are multiple build lines going on for example: is 23060 later or earlier than 23420 ? I think they seemed to come out at the same time. That implies that the newer 23064 used in PDAVIET's V68 is perhaps newer than 23420?
Also, what is COM3 / COM4?
Apologies if this information is already somewhere else, I can't find it!
Thanks
Matt.
There is a Thread for listing all roms available. But i think they are still construction this one. A higher build number doesn´t mean a better rom! These roms normally come with the most bugs, because they are most recent, so they are needed for testing. If you want a rom just to see the newest features, how it looks, and to test a little bit, then go for the higher build numbers. But if you want a rom that you can use every day, then try one of the older rom, like 23016.Take a look for Miri´s, EnergyRom, Xanny, Dutty, Laurentius, Topix, etc. There are so many great roms around!
Best you can do is trying and posting you experience in the respective rom thread.
Aha, found this on a search - apologies to the original author of it as it was I think pasted a number of times but I do stress I am *not* the original author of it
212xx = AKU1, all builds leading up to and including WM 6.5
214xx = forget
216xx = HTC htc
217xx = COM1, continuing dev of 6.5.0.1 - 6.5.0.40
218xx = COM2, continuing dev of 6.5.0.50
219xx = MD, feature branch (unstable features are added here, backported to 218xx (this tree is based on COM1, so older base os code, but the UX code is newer [user experience])
230xx = COM3, continuing development of 6.5.0.60
234xx = COM4, continuing development of 6.5.1
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So it looks to me like for those looking for a more stable build and not bleeding edge, 230xx is the way to go, these look to be fixes, improvements and enhancements to the release version of WM6.5, as opposed to 234xx which is the forward looking bleeding edge.
I've got PDAVIET's V67 on at the moment (which is COM4) so I might just give V68 a shot and see how COM3 looks in comparison, given it's got the newer Manilla.
Posting this info in the hope other newbs can learn from it too
Cheers
Matt.
Have a look at this thread. Useful info on rom builds
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Hey All,
It's been almost two months since anyone released a WM5 ROM and there are several fix packs out for all of them now. Are any of the releasers planning to create a new build?
The reason I ask is that there have been lots of questions on upgrading recently. The wiki is quite out of date WRT what ROMs are available and which are recommended. Presently, anyone wanting to upgrade to WM5 must read through several multi-page threads to figure out if they need any fixes. This sucks bigtime. I'd much prefer a "release-often" strategy, with new fixes integrated into newer versions, along with short topics containing info specific to that ROM (and not generic WM5 questions).
Failing any new releases, could someone please spend a short while either writing a post or a wiki page specifying which ROM is the best to use, along with any required and optional fixes? A list of known issues would be useful. I'd do it myself, but a) don't have the time right now and b) I don't know the current states of the various ROMs, and any related issues.
I'd really like to see a shift to a "community" developed ROM, with the kitchen code in source-control somewhere that select people can contribute to when the original contributers go elsewhere. Has anyone done this in the XDA-dev world before? It would be great to be able to run "make vanilla" or "make all" using a build system that can be continually improved by all those involved.
Cheers,
Fraser.
There is almost everything you mentioned:
Just visit the wiki - its Helmi ROM(the best one) and the page with fixes can also be found.
I am not sure if there are all of the fixes but I hope so, I will make a review soon. And the vanila wiki as I promised (not so soon )
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And about the source-control if its not you who want to make a future development or if you dont know someone then its not necessary
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It's been almost two months since anyone released a WM5 ROM and there are several fix packs out for all of them now. Are any of the releasers planning to create a new build?
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IMO helmi_c vanilla version is the best one - clean and stable.
I'm working on small update of 1.4.Vanilla - to include BA_AKU3.5_v1.4_Fix1.CAB, Camera_Patch.CAB, several minor cleanings and tweaks and - the most important - to delete built-in .Net.CF.1.0 and to include .Net.CF.2 with service packs. In fact - it is done, but I need several days to verify things.
kerio said:
Just visit the wiki - its Helmi ROM(the best one) and the page with fixes can also be found.
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Excellent, I just took a closer look. It's been a while since I last looked at it I guess, things are looking pretty good.
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And about the source-control if its not you who want to make a future development or if you dont know someone then its not necessary
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The idea was that rather than having everyone work on different roms, there would be a central place to keep all of the things required to build it. Then, improvements are beneficial to all. I've used many open-source projects in the past, including things like OpenWRT which has a neat builder that downloads everything it needs. Something like that for ROM building would be very useful. Source control is necessary IMHO as it enables any developer involved in the project to be able to see the specific changes between updates. This vastly assists in tracking down bugs as well as improving communication of the work being done.
baniaczek said:
I'm working on small update of 1.4.Vanilla - to include BA_AKU3.5_v1.4_Fix1.CAB, Camera_Patch.CAB, several minor cleanings and tweaks and - the most important - to delete built-in .Net.CF.1.0 and to include .Net.CF.2 with service packs. In fact - it is done, but I need several days to verify things.
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I'll keep my eye out for this; my original post was prompted by me wanting to perform an upgrade soon.
Out of curiosity, does the vanilla build loose out on some ROM space that would otherwise be used by the fuller ROMs?
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Out of curiosity, does the vanilla build loose out on some ROM space that would otherwise be used by the fuller ROMs?
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There is only 15 (0xf) free sectors, so even helmi's fixes wouldn't fit into.
yes me too...
currently I'm on Helmis Vanilla version..I can't wait to try your updated ROM...
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currently I'm on Helmis Vanilla version..I can't wait to try your updated ROM...
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me too..............
well I think you guys will be a bit disapointed...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?threadid=294142
hopefully we van get alternate resources from somewhere ese... it would be a shame to see all this great development go
The world is not over! We will just not use the FTP but other servers!
Why is this a problem? We can just use 4shared, rapidshare, magaupload, sharebig and the million other quality sharing hosts out there.
This will make it more difficult for people to post viruses.
As for the ROM upgrades, I'm looking forward to xplodes AKU 3.5 3rd edition ROM which is in final testing at the moment. For me, Helmi Vanilla version just didn't match it's speed - did like the shiny "egg timer" symbol though . I am sure xplode has something up his sleeve!
hi,
some days ago i have found a thread about the difference between the WinMobile 6.5 (23.../21...) Version, but i cant find this thread again, can somebody say me what is the Difference, or post the link to a helping thread ?
There are basically two types of WM6.5 which are in use at the moment.
The 21xxx branch refers to WM6.5 as the version that is/will be used by HTC when they update their newer devices.
The 23xxx branch refers to WM6.5 as the version which will eventually become WM7. It has the bigger buttons (and start is also on the bottom). This version is also referred to as WM6.5.1.
The 21xxx branch is the more stable atm, since not all programs can adapt well to the new buttons in the 23xxx branch.
Hope this clarifies it a bit !
Thanks for that, cleared it up for me too
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There are basically two types of WM6.5 which are in use at the moment.
The 21xxx branch refers to WM6.5 as the version that is/will be used by HTC when they update their newer devices.
The 23xxx branch refers to WM6.5 as the version which will eventually become WM7. It has the bigger buttons (and start is also on the bottom). This version is also referred to as WM6.5.1.
The 21xxx branch is the more stable atm, since not all programs can adapt well to the new buttons in the 23xxx branch.
Hope this clarifies it a bit !
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I didn't know that until yet...
What is the difference between the 230xx and the 235xx series?
MaryOne X0.03☻Build 23502 COM5
XannyTechROM GRID LEO 1.9 Latest Leo (21870/23081)
I would like to know this, as there doesn't seem any difference at all ?
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I would like to know this, as there doesn't seem any difference at all ?
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no i havent found one single difference so far.....
Leo
Hi guys,
can you maybe also explain (just out of interest, I am not an expert) what Leo means and what this brings on WM? Also I wonder what the Manilla versions do and their differences.
Maybe an Idea to start a threat about all parts/differences.
I am just curious and read a lot so just would like to know a little bit more.
Best regards,
Sander
Sander101077 said:
Hi guys,
can you maybe also explain (just out of interest, I am not an expert) what Leo means and what this brings on WM? Also I wonder what the Manilla versions do and their differences.
Maybe an Idea to start a threat about all parts/differences.
I am just curious and read a lot so just would like to know a little bit more.
Best regards,
Sander
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Leo is the name for the new phone from htc (the HTC HD 2).
It is also the first with the new manila version (2.5), which is why it is often referred to as the 'leo manila version'.
It doesn't really bring anything new to WM, WM is developed separately from Manila (WM by Microsoft and manila by HTC). Of course HTC adepts her Manila to WM, or atleast it should .
This is afaik how things are related
Thank you for explaining. It becomes much clearer now.
thanks for the answers but now i have found the searched thread, here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569715
have fun
Merry Christmas all!
I'm not exactly a newbie when it comes to Windows Mobile or flashing ROMS, but thus far I have stuck to "official" versions. Now I'm looking to get into some of the custom ROMS I keep reading about.
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
Thanks for any help!
Long story short:
This specific forum (the current one that you posted your thread in) is for various GSM ROMs that include WM 6.5 and WM 6.5.x. Basically, you can tell a good bit by reading the title of the threads, but clicking on the thread will give you more insight as to what apps and customization are included.
Also note:
Windows Mobile 21xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5
Windows Mobile 28xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5.x (x=1, 2, 3, etc)
For example, if you look at this thread's title:
|R|6.5.3|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Leo" 28014/21885 |Dec 17| ★ Sense 2.5/ MaxManila /Dusk
|R|6.5.3|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Phoenix 2" 28014/21885 ★Dec 17★ Sense 2.1/Titanium ★
You will see that there is a Windows Mobile 6.5 version (21885) and a Windows Mobile 6.5.3 version (28014). You can also see Sense 2.5 and 2.1 named (Sense 2.5 is the newer Touch Flo 3D interface used on the HD2). Sense 2.1 is what you probably use now and it is more stable. Sense 2.5 still has a little ways to go (screen rotation being one of them). Many ROMs include downloads that include one or both sense versions (2.1 or 2.5).
If you click on the threads, you'll get more info as can be seen below:
You will find TWO core versions of my ROM.
* The 21885 Build is from the OEM COM2 Tree and is the most reliable and bug free release. I recommend you start with this first!
And...
* The 28014 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.3 series with the Start/Close buttons at the bottom. These builds are not as stable but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft.
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IMissPalmOS said:
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
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I agree with you, and I found it very very confusing at first when I came here. However, over a short period of time I could start to see what the more popular ROMs were (based on the number of people giving feedback about them etc), and started to get an idea on what they were about based on reading the latest replies (most of the threads are way too big to read all the way through !);
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
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I don't think so, but the previous reply has given some useful tips. Normally in the first few posts for each ROM you'll find some sort of basic description and screenshots. Don't be afraid to just jump into the water and start flashing though, you can easily change which ROM you're running if you don't like it. Stick to 6.5 (not 6.5.3) and Manila/Sense 2.1 if you want to stay with the "safer" (most stable) options initially.
Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.
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Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.
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yep +1.
no reason for a new thread on this man... flash till you find whats good for you.
What's the difference between the 235xx and 28xxx builds? How come new releases of each build are co-released, are they being co-developed? And how come 28xxx=6.5.3 if the smaller number 235xx=6.5.5?
They are just different, parallel developments, of 6.5.x. The smaller or bigger number doesn't mean very much, as far as I'm aware, just that they're different teams.
Seems like the main work is going on 23xxx now, judging from the updates that have been coming through.
Those who are more in the know might be able to correct me or comment further, though.
The different build numbers are due to the different COM branches, which are developed independently. I know that some of the branches are for different manufacturers, and some are for different features (like the 6.5.x builds vs. traditional 6.5 builds). There's a post here which goes into a bit more detail with the different COM branches.
I had been using WM6.1 ROMs till now and am planning to cook a 6.5 ROM for myself. For this I need a 6.5 SYS and XIP. I went around looking for a SYS download at xda, and within minutes I was baffled. I saw that different cooks use different build trees for X1 ROMs. I couldn't find an answer for the differences between these different builds. In one thread it said was one tree was Motorola, another was HTC, while another was Sony Ericsson. Does this mean that these builds were developed for these companies and will work only in their products.
I need help understanding which version to use. I have seen 6.5 builds with different UI designs, like oval buttons at bottom, rectangular buttons, start menu at top. If some one can help me with this or point me in the right direction, that would be wonderful.
I also need the 6.5 native kernel for X1. The links in the thread for that are dead, and it seems the thread itself is dead. If some one could point out to a thread with a valid link or a link to the NK, it would be great. I could get the NK from someone's kitchen, but the bandwidth is too limited for me at the moment, and I was hoping that I wouldn't have to wait till my DSL problems are sorted out.
Does this mean that these builds were developed for these companies and will work only in their products.
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no.
I need help understanding which version to use. I have seen 6.5 builds with different UI designs, like oval buttons at bottom, rectangular buttons, start menu at top. If some one can help me with this or point me in the right direction, that would be wonderful.
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If you want to get old-style gui, then download WM6.5. Latest available build is 21916.
If you want new style gui, go for WM6.5.3. Latest builds are 23150 and 21686.
I also need the 6.5 native kernel for X1.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6300518&postcount=3