WM5 kitchen worst case scenario ~ quick question - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

i'm new to blueangel haxing. i have a hermes wm5 rom ive been building for almost a year, and i cant find any information on this for the blueangel
whats the worst case scenario of a botched kitchen isntall. say i create the file and flash it, is this is a permanent brick or what.
my thinking it it shouldnt affect the bootloader, but somebody care to run down the bricks and **** to me?
Thanks.

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Is my Wizard Dead??

I try to install a Rom Dopod_WM6-CHS. When it finished, my wizard is OFF.
I try to go in Bootloader, nothing!!!
I have G4 unlocked with PDAVIET3.
What happened?
Any solution?
Is this Bricked or what?
Pls
Thnks to all.
Hi
Did you had enough battery when you began the upgrade ?...just guessing
Yes. I have 70% battery.
I try wrongly to install that ROM, who was in Chinese.
When it finished, its going off, and i cant to go on.
Are you sure it doesn't enter bootloader ? Did you tried everything. BTW, why did you tried to install the chineese rom ?
Have you tried takeing off the battery for about half and hour and then trying again bootloader ? When your device is of, and you plug it into charger, does the led lights ? And if so , what colour ... orange(normal) or red or worse ...nothing ?
Yes i Try batter off for 4-5 hour.
I try hard reset (CommManager button, VoiceComm Buton and to reset), Nothing.
I dont see that it was in Chinese. In finishing of installing Extended Rom, he gone off, and no one LED light is taking on.
I dont know what.
If no led is turning on, try this. Pull out your battery, insert your charger(with the battery out) wait for a couple of seconds, and then insert the battery.
This should start charging...
Tell me wat's hapening.
Well, the ROM being in a different language should not cause any problems, rather, the IPL/SPL included in the ROM may have killed the Wizard, which either in different in terms of being G3/G4 or it is for a different unit (eg non Wizard phone).
I know that, but from what I remember, WM6 only has OS, not IPL/SPL.
That's why I was hoping that his Wizard is not dead 4ever.
anichillus said:
I know that, but from what I remember, WM6 only has OS, not IPL/SPL.
That's why I was hoping that his Wizard is not dead 4ever.
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If any rom you flashed included a bootloader (IPL/SPL) then you have bricked your G4. You cannot flash IPL/SPL into a G4 yet. It will work until the first reset then will be a brick forever after.
If you have warranty or insurance on it you might want to exercise one of those options and hope for the best.
I hope that you did not flash a G3 or other bootloader and your device is just being temperamental.
Good Luck.
Zzan said:
If any rom you flashed included a bootloader (IPL/SPL) then you have bricked your G4. You cannot flash IPL/SPL into a G4 yet. It will work until the first reset then will be a brick forever after.
If you have warranty or insurance on it you might want to exercise one of those options and hope for the best.
I hope that you did not flash a G3 or other bootloader and your device is just being temperamental.
Good Luck.
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the op contacted me yesterday for help....some bastard uploaded a Chinese rom to the ftp....with it seems a cross ipl/spl....this means if you install in a g3 or g4 it will brick....the file has been deleted...
Im one of victims who uses that ROM
That ROM was in Upload/Wizard/ROMS/ and i dont know who tolerate to upload that ROM who can brick a wizards of all newbies.
I think that in a future dont be that kind of mistake!!!!
faria said:
the op contacted me yesterday for help....some bastard uploaded a Chinese rom to the ftp....with it seems a cross ipl/spl....this means if you install in a g3 or g4 it will brick....the file has been deleted...
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Is there a schedule of when moderators (or whoever) views the upload directory of the FTP and verify/move the files to the proper spots/directories on the FTP?
I know that it was recently cleaned up, and assume it is being maintained. And if so there should be no reason (other than lack of patience) for someone to DL something from the upload directory.
In any case it's unfortunate that someone is that malicious (whether intentional or not) and caused people to ruin their devices. I would think as a good rule of thumb that before you flash any file downloaded from the upload directory look for an associated thread on the file or ask about it on the forums to see if anyone knows what it is/who the author is.
Zzan said:
Is there a schedule of when moderators (or whoever) views the upload directory of the FTP and verify/move the files to the proper spots/directories on the FTP?
I know that it was recently cleaned up, and assume it is being maintained. And if so there should be no reason (other than lack of patience) for someone to DL something from the upload directory.
In any case it's unfortunate that someone is that malicious (whether intentional or not) and caused people to ruin their devices. I would think as a good rule of thumb that before you flash any file downloaded from the upload directory look for an associated thread on the file or ask about it on the forums to see if anyone knows what it is/who the author is.
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yes we check all we can ,but we cannot check every file and its extensions.....this a voluntary job....as i rule you should only download files that you know that are safe....and for the love of good check the files with antivirus scanner...there is several treads about this problems allredy.....at the moment there is only 2 choices ;ftp for everybody or no ftp at all.
who can check if every rom uploaded for every device is good?.....there is no way.

error 326 in cingular 8125 while installing ROM at the official site plz help

Dear All,
i downloaded the original rom for cingular 8125 from www.htcamerica.net and i updated the rom at 95% it was interupted by error 326 corrupted nk.nbf file
i read much in this forum about that problem but i really got confused from several solutions and i tried them all like COOKING A NEW rom i failed to cook a room and otherwise all the links here from the FTP site are damaged
plz i need the cooked rom directly be uploaded here newly not a link cuz all links for WIZARD are damaged in the FTP
now plz explain me in detail what can i do
2nd if any program will be upload plz manually upload it again i am so sorry
by the way the phone now current state when you power up its just on the splash screen only my original rom version is the latest version 2.25 thanks a lot plz help me in that disaster
centrinouk said:
Dear All,
i downloaded the original rom for cingular 8125 from www.htcamerica.net and i updated the rom at 95% it was interupted by error 326 corrupted nk.nbf file
i read much in this forum about that problem but i really got confused from several solutions and i tried them all like COOKING A NEW rom i failed to cook a room and otherwise all the links here from the FTP site are damaged
plz i need the cooked rom directly be uploaded here newly not a link cuz all links for WIZARD are damaged in the FTP
now plz explain me in detail what can i do
2nd if any program will be upload plz manually upload it again i am so sorry
by the way the phone now current state when you power up its just on the splash screen only my original rom version is the latest version 2.25 thanks a lot plz help me in that disaster
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The links are not damaged. The ROM images have been removed from the FTP per Microsoft's request, and the reason you find yourself here is one of the reasons MS and Carriers have asked these ROMS be removed. The other reason is because of leaked/modded ROMS that weren't supposed to be released for certain devices, and due to what MS calls violation of Intellectual Property rights.
Before doing any modifications to any WM device, its crucial that you know whats involved in doing so and the possible consequences that may arise if you make a mistake. This modding process takes a lot of reading and then some.
When I first started on this forum I made the same mistake of trying to install the ROM at htcamerica.net on my new wizard (because of lockups) as you have done not knowing what I was doing. I ended up bricking my device.
From your Post I know you have a device that has an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. This means that you have a G4 device. G4 devices were introduced into the market to make it harder to modify them. G3 devices lack the .0001 on the end and are easier to mod. Of course the manufacturer and carrier isn't very open about this. All of this is covered in the Wiki. Fortunately I was able to follow the instructions in the Wiki and was able to Modify an original ROM and revive my bricked device.
I recommend you do some more reading, and if you are completely stumped send me a PM and I'll try to walk you through this... Of course... no guarantees your device will be recoverable. In an effort to fix their devices, some people end up damaging the device beyond repair and require that they be sent in for expensive repairs or replacement.

WM6 official to cooked WM6?

Hello guys...need some advises here....
Just bought Dopod 810 with WM6 official....but can I use cooked WM6 that available here?
any risks doing it?
Some risks
Hi Wid -
You can use the ROMs posted here. They will work on any Trinity. Some things to watch out for:
- you can "brick" your phone, which means it stops responding to any inputs, becoming as useful as a brick.
- however you can fix "bricking"
- You can also avoid bricking by removing the Service Provider Lock (SPL) software and replacing it with a non-restictive SPL (see posts in this forum)
- if you remove or change your SPL, you technically have violated the terms of your contract with your telecom provider. This probably won't be a problem for day-to-day use, but if you ever need warranty service, or other service with the device, they can refuse to provide it because of your use of a non-offical ROM.
see here for more discussion of ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331429
Good luck!
Mike
Hi mike....thanks for the information...
I did read about "brick" my device & I have been suggested that I must do Hard SPL first prior flashing with cooked ROM.
FYI, my phone is not under contract with my service provider...just warranty by the manufacturer...so should I still need to remove SPL? or do HARD SPL 1st then star flashing my phone?
thanks
wid
anyone can help me?
If you install any cooked ROM or change SPL you run the risk of your manufacturer warranty been in-validated.
The question you should ask yourself, is it worth the possible trouble?
Changing WM6 for a cooked WM6, i'm not sure, but only you can answer that question.
Yes...I just wondering....because I'm type of person that like to try something new.
But after sometimes, search & read...I decided to keep with my original ROM.
Thank you for all advises here

Flashing with out a HardSpl,

It seems that it is possible to flash the HD2 with with out HardSpl, Is it possible to do this with the Tilt2/TouchPro2's ?
Anyone interesting taking on this project ?
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty..
This is worth reading, it is possible to flash without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, Here is the thread discussing it, hopefully this will be possible on the tilt2 in the near future.
HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Credit goes to bebe for developing this for the HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=270777
I don't know. HSPL is superbly easy, and if your device is too broken to see what the SPL is, you don't have to worry about the repair center seeing what SPL is loaded. If it's still a usable albeit somewhat borked device, just find the stock SPL/ROM/radio and flash that mofo befo' shippin' it off. Hell, you're in USA and on AT$T, too. Phone insurance for thew win, dude. Went from kaiser to rhodium for $125, and free after customer service fu*ked with the wrong mofo.
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
BTT it seems that is a good bit of success of flashing without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, if it can be done on the HD2 then is should possible on the Tilt2 / touch Pro or any other HTC phone..
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty.
F2504x4 said:
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
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HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
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and it would be "free" except for all the Voluntary donations the chef would receive from this..
F2504x4 said:
If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
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I don't see how that makes things a "whole lot easier". It looks to be about as complex a procedure as installing HardSPL, except it has to be done every time you flash, whereas once you have HardSPL:
1) Flashing via USB requires fewer steps
2) Flashing from MicroSD is possible
3) You can flash radios
So tell me how it is a "whole lot easier" when the initial step is approximately the same complexity, and subsequent ROM flashes do not have the reduction in complexity that HardSPL provides?
The problem with the HardSPL is that it many people are having problems and they do not respond to support requests anymore, even with donations. That is why were looking to do it without HardSPL.
sounds like a coup is about to happen!
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
DaveShaw said:
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
thekewlone12 said:
What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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So long as the SPL you have (Hard or Stock) matches closely with the original one HTC intended for that ROM, you will be fine.
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
tonev said:
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
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Please see the HardSPL sticky thread, which is the correct place for this, and where I have tried to help you.
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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No I CANT HARDSPL MY phone so it does not take 3 minutes it takes 3 days 5 hours ( and still counting )
Gunstar_Hero said:
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
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So you are saying that even if I donate for hardspl it won't work?
90% chance that if you're having problems installing HardSPL, this approach is as likely to (if not more likely to) fail for you.
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
Entropy512 said:
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
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Must do automatic flash while synced with pc also.
I asked about this a while ago and got the same kinda responses

different method of flashing custom rom's

hey guys i have been wanting to hspl my device for a while (see signature(pure). but i have seen that it actually working is very tricky... doesnt always work...
a few weeks ago i talked with a developer about this and he said if you could build your own rom that matches your spl and device perfectly than you dont neeed to modify your device's spl....
perfect for me only looking to flash once... to a 6.5.3...
i had no idea how i should go about doing this until i found this project...
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=1915902
using a program called yang...
could i extract only the rom part out of acustom rom and not the spl and fuse it with the official htc original ship rom so i do not have to hspl it????
if i have confused anyone i am sorry or am completely off ... again sorry
however if you have even the slightest of an idea of what im trying to do could you please help me .. and possibly anyone else who might need help
ps. i have flashed many roms on other device for my self and others... always stupidly easy and problem free... like lg incite (took me 10minutes to learn how to flash and to do it and boot up) that thing is a tank ... almost impossible to brick... but it always seems like we run into issues with htc devices and their spl's.... ugh
Check your link as it is invalid.
What you are saying makes sense and could possibly work.
You would just have to find your stock ROM, find a kitchen to decompile it, change some external packages and see if it flashes.
Keep an unaltered copy of your stock ROM in case you need to flash back to it.

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