10MB RAM hack, does it affect emulators like Gameboid, Nesoid, etc? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking at trying out KingKlicks Espresso ROM and I since gameboid is my gaming method of choice I don't want to mess it up. I know the RAM hack affects 3D gaming so I'm pretty sure it won't hurt anything but I don't want to flash and find out the hard way.

Well you shouldn't be afraid of flashing.. it's part of a well balanced breakfast! I also use emulators to game and have had no issues with the 10mb Hack.

Yeah you've got nothing to worry about. I use the emulators with the hack as well and have zero problems with them.

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how to make my game run smooth?

I have a game "Peggle" that is very choppy. Just wondering if it is possible that someone would like the project of trying to get this game to play smooth on the Raphael?
I've tried everything I could find on XDA for performance tweaks, and still choppy. Even some of the drivers. Or, just let me know if there is something else, I could try. Thanks.
Not sure if it will help, but you can give this a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509704
I got this driver from a story posted on Fuze Mobility, and it actually made a noticable difference. Granted, PocketSNES is the most intensive application I use, but atleast it runs a lot smoother.

G1 10mb hack and 3d Games

I was wandering how exectly how would the 10 mb hack will effect gaming expirience on my g1?
with all the new 3d games coming out to android, how will it effect them?
is there a way to cencel the hack after applying it?
any other negetive effect from the hack?
thanks.
Death_Keeper said:
I was wandering how exectly how would the 10 mb hack will effect gaming expirience on my g1?
with all the new 3d games coming out to android, how will it effect them?
is there a way to cencel the hack after applying it?
any other negetive effect from the hack?
thanks.
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3d games really aren't too great on the g1, a droid or n1 would be much better with those, personally I don't really need 3d games, but I guess som people like giant pixels and huge textures
hiddengopher said:
but I guess som people like giant pixels and huge textures
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They're sexy
Death_Keeper said:
I was wandering how exectly how would the 10 mb hack will effect gaming expirience on my g1?
with all the new 3d games coming out to android, how will it effect them?
is there a way to cencel the hack after applying it?
any other negetive effect from the hack?
thanks.
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There is a lot of information on this subject. To sum it up, if your into playing a lot of 3d games, I wouldn't recommend using the hack. Your essentially getting the extra 10mb from the phones part of the GPU that is used for 3d gaming. If you do the hack, you will notice a big difference in speed and appearance when running 3d games, which is why your better off not using it.
It doesn't effect emulator agmes, as my nes, snes and genesis emulators run fine, and I do use the hack. ( I cant comment on the other emulators, as these are the only 3 that I can keep running at full speed).
Hope that helps a bit
Dai323 said:
There is a lot of information on this subject. To sum it up, if your into playing a lot of 3d games, I wouldn't recommend using the hack. Your essentially getting the extra 10mb from the phones part of the GPU that is used for 3d gaming. If you do the hack, you will notice a big difference in speed and appearance when running 3d games, which is why your better off not using it.
It doesn't effect emulator agmes, as my nes, snes and genesis emulators run fine, and I do use the hack. ( I cant comment on the other emulators, as these are the only 3 that I can keep running at full speed).
Hope that helps a bit
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any way to cancel the hack after applaying it?

psx4droid

just heard about it and am rather excited. has anyone tested it on the g1? is it even playable?
yes i installed psx4droid on Cm6 on G1 i tested crash bandicoot and it works but exstremly slow, sound is also very poor
but its G1 so what do you expect.
thoughts awesome havent tested any other games yet im thinking if i disable comp cache and enable swapper on my swap partition then it may be faster...??
oh yh i have the same phone with cy6 and amon ra with death spl
in step by step detail can someone please explain the process of getting the rom to work. i tried a file from doperoms and when i putin the correct bios and clicked on the twisted metal zip it open another folder and said there was nothing in the folder. can you please guide me in this. i been so fustrated tryna figure this outfor a while now lol any help is appreciated
Don't download off dope roms unless you know how to convert their psx roms to .ISO or .BIN. I use emu paradise forums as long as the roms are in those two formats you should be fine the only problem is even with swapper or linux swap you cant get enough memory for the games. They seem to run incredably slow and it makes it unplayable unless someone can get the linux swap only to work for psx4droid so it only gives that program the memory it needs then maybe it'll play like the moto droid does with psx4droid. Anyway good luck with getting it run well.
If any progress in getting this to run smooth on G1 PM me
Sad to say it but psx4droid is just a novelty on the G1. Ive tried tekken on down to a 2d game like Suikoden. It makes no difference wat you do. Even overclocked to 700 sumtin mhz with set cpu you only can get around 5 fps.
I got it running a lil faster than 5fps I'm not sure but I keep it at default. And also I disable the sound it gives it a boost. But I will do a video on youtube tonight or tomorrow. Jus search my username androidappman and you will see the video it won't be hard to find.
Sent from my HTC Dream running CM6 RC2 w/ MTD Partition's using XDA App
^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy
themapleboy said:
^^^ thanks i would love too see it running a couple of games to get the idea b4 i buy
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ok no prooblem im up and have one more ciggerette for the night lol so ill post it but im taking back what i said on it moving faster than about 5fps but again it could have been the game cause i had chosen silent hill but i heard ace combat was pretty smooth running as well as crash bandicoot but my issue is i wanna start a dropbox like sysytem to load all the converted games for others to have easy access to. but im a do the video about basically how to convert the game into the proper file type and do so in detail. so look out for me in the morning. p.s anyone get wit me on a site like dropbox so i can sign up and start uploading away with you all.
I also have CM6, and I tried this emulator out. Extremely slow, but seems to work. Needs a lot of optimizations, as I'm sure that the G1 can certainly emulate PSX full speed. How I know this? Cause I could on my Kaiser, with FPSCE. I was able to play Megaman 8 with sound with minimal slow down. Then again, I had to use Windows Mobile for FPSCE.
Considering the difference between the G1 and Kaiser CPU's are 128 Mhz, I really doubt it couldn't be done on the G1. Would like to also mention, on the Kaiser the 3D acceleration wasn't working either. So FPSCE had no help from the GPU.
My guess is that PSX4DROID uses the FPU that you'll find in many modern Android phones, but older phones like the G1 don't have one. They could probably optimize it to run at full speed on phones like the G1, but they would rather recommend getting a newer phone. Even though most PSX emulators for the PC requires a minimum of a 200 MHz chip, and our phones have a 528 Mhz chip.
Really wish more emulator developers would develop on the Android. As it is, it seems like Android only has one person working on emulators for the Android.

Psx4droid

So I got the psx emulator even though the slide probably isn't the best device to be running the app on. Tried a few of my fave games and the larger roms (like GT2) are slightly laggier then the smaller ones (like Spyro 2). This is probably normal due to size.
I know this is the first release so its not a well pollished app but how much better do you folks think its going to get for us slide users? And is this the same experience the rest of you are having?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
took the app from 4shared.com amd game won't load. buying it tommorow tho, but it shouldnt run horrid thinking it might run smooth actually, not a fan of how you have to get the roms but hey it ps1 on the go right?
Update: Looks like my Bios was the issue, but works fine now. Games are pretty laggy tried overclocking but not sure it worked out to well, need to try something else. only tried spyro playable but not normal game play like you'd want. Wish we had hummingbird in this! *drools over keyboard* If FF7-9 work good enough for me then. but maybe in the future once its more polished it could become better but playing fighter games or very actiony games maybe not "amazing". Price you must pay for owning a mid-range device.
the games are wayyyy too laggy for slide imho. i just stick with the good ol snes emulator.
I think its the emulator that needs some work because I have heard it runs crappy on the Evo too, but for a work in progress you have to admit that its pretty impressive to be able to load a PSX game onto your phone. I have tried a bunch of different ROMs and so far the only one that is playable is Resident Evil Directors Cut.
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!
SefEXE said:
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!
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Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
Joe333x said:
Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
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Ah crud. Well I'll probably be trying more things to see what is great. I wasn't really too excited about RE2 anyways. I never really had a PSX, so I didn't play a lot of these games. Of course I could just do it on the PC now, but... well, I do enjoy the slide.
About halfway through disk one of Final Fantasy 7. The game runs perfect on Fenix 1.8 OCed to 844mhz. Zero lag. The only issue is the sound but I usually play it in public places anyway so it's not a deal breaker for me. Even bust out the WiiRemote for a controller sometimes at home

Bored so much... My next is WP7

I'm bored so much everyday something has broken.
With stock rom I can't play dungeon defenders with my PowerSGX 540
And with sucked balls iphone is smooth on this game.
With CM7 browser is laggy and stock kernel is so poor. Look fps in quadrant. F...k quadrant score but just look what a poor fps. After flashing glitch kernel dungeon defenders is so smooth but now it brings millions of bugs.
And now accelerometer doesn't work great it lags on CM7 or MIUI with all type of kernels. And these days are end of gingerbread. We still don't have a great gingerbread or froyo.
I have a great GPU chip great CPU chip I will put all of them into my somewhere. F...k samsung sorry for offtopic I bored so much.
Now CM9 will come with a big "0". Fix bugs fix bugs fix bugs ... And CM10 + a big 0 fix bugs fix bugs.
When can I use this sh*t?
My next phone will be a Windows Phone 7.5 or something. SGS FOR SALE.
LOL. 10 Chars.
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
There is no cure for stupidity..
Before I commited myself to a 2 year contract, i researched which phone to buy for a full month. Consequently, i never moan, ***** or whinge like a little girl.
What did you do? Pull your phone out of a hat?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
This guy has a point. I play with a phone, not games though. That's why Android is perfect phone for me
I am really wondering what games he is gonna play on Windows Phone !?
To those joking with OP...can you guys name one gingerbread firmware released by Samsung that is not laggy..buggy etc etc.
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
I don't play games that often in mobile,might try the above mentioned combo. I need a firmware that works,trusty alarm clock,etc.Samsung does not give a damn about the bugs on recent firmwares that's the reason i feel with the thread starter.
TigerCourage said:
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
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Lets try dungeon defenders. You can't even just open game with this combination.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
haloimplant said:
Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Totally agreed. Flashing back to froyo now. For more ram.
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For games playing, 2.2.1 is only choice.
BHuvan goyal said:
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
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Theres no need to bash someone like that. He's got a valid point in terms of games and the lags inspite of the superb hardware our phone has. After all this hardcore specs...gingerbread released by samsung is ****...yeah i know theres CM7...but come on...lets just talk about phone thats just out of the box...
i also just downgraded to froyo 2.2.1 jsd yesterday...its awesume for playing games......and i also applied supercharger script...i get lot of free ram.....
i had also tried jpk but jsd is awesume...
Well, every time I exit 9mm wich is a very demanding game, I get like 179 free ram. Also, the ARC launcher is very optimized to run on low ram (wich makes it lightweight) and doesn't redraw like TouchWiz 3 bull****.
I can't try Dungeon Defenders couse I'm out of internal SD storage all because I have a lot of games installed on my 8GB version xD.
Quadrant scores mean little to nothing in reality though.
Whole thread should change the topic to:
I'm very disappointed because I had no idea what I'm buying and what for I will use it.
well, for me riptide gp, dungeon defenders, shadowgun etc. run perfectly on jvt+doctorz rom v9+thunderbolt tweaks 1.9.1 50 lmk+loopy tweaks+semaphore kernel 1.8.2 at 1200mhz and they are like butter on 1300mhz. u can say my sgs has a bit of a better processor then most sgs out their. i get 4000 quad. easily with this combo. i am very satisfied with gingerbread and i believe windows phone 7 doesnt even these high graphic games so its just a waste of money to move on windows phone or even ios.

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