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It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
phelixx1 said:
It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
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What applications did you try?
When you start the application does the right side LED blink orange?
Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
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azop said:
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
or get it here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/softw...ssociateid=1224
When you have installed it, run it and it will auto scan the ports to find the GPS receiver. Make note of the port number - that's the one you'll need for your other applications (like tomtom etc). Make sure you have a clear view of the sky when running it and give it PLENTY time to achieve a first time fix.
By the way if you have ever used the "External GPS" on the Kaiser then you may have altered some settings that can stop GPS working. Unfortunately only a hard reset will cure this. BUT, try the above first. If GPS test can get satellites then so will other applications.
This little application GPS Test is also useful to run before things like Google Maps that some folks have problems with.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
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Mike, this is a great program, thanks.
and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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Ok. If GPS test works and finds sats then, you have an incorrect port set on the other applications. From GPS Test see what port it has found the GPS on. Then in tomtom say, use "other nmea device" or "internal GPS" whichever option it has in the "configure" menu and set the port to the one noted from GPS test.
Fact is that if GPS test finds sats then everything is working and its just getting the link between the GPS and the nav software that needs fixing.
Mike
I just had to leave my house and try it on the road. Now it works everywhere. YEAH!!!!!!!!!
THANKS GUYS (mikechannon) !!!!!!!!!!
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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I used to have the same exact problem...Google Maps just gives up if it doesn't find a fix right away. TomTom does finally get a lock without GPS Test, but it takes less time if you have GPS Test running beforehand.
I had the same problem .. GPS would not work with Google, MSN live. Downloaded GPS test and still nothing. I finally did a "hard" reset (painful, but I did have everything backed up on my PC with Active Sync).
After the hard reset GPS worked GREAT! I must have messed up a setting trying to get it to work. GPS test now reports that the GPS is active on COM4, 9600 baud.
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this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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You don't have to run it before every GPS application. Some folks find Google Maps benefits from doing this but I only suggested running the GPS test app to establish which port was being used. Even with Google maps you may find on subsequent occasions you do not need to run an app like GPS Test first.
Mike
accuracy
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
boultz said:
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
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I don't have that problem - even when I have few fixed satellites. However I did read a report recently where someone routinely had the arrow showing 200mtrs away from his position. Sorry to say it was only after a Hard Reset that the problem vanished.
As a side issue. I have noticed with tomtom and any other GPS software -
If you start the GPS software in an area with no or poor GPS signal, then it will take FAR longer to get a fix EVEN when you go into a clear sky area.. If however when you start the GPS software in a good open sky area then it will fix much more quickly.
The moral of this story - don't start the GPS when you are inside a thick walled building - wait until you get outside first. I'mguessing that starting in an area with a very weak signal sends it searching in all the wrong areas for satellites and it will then take a long time to find them even when you get outside. (This is true, I have noticed with all GPS systems I've used not just the Kaiser.
Mike
FYI, I have found that Map4PDA breaks the GPS. I believe it changes the baud rate to 57600, which is incorrect (it should be 9600). The only way to fix it I have found is to Hard reset and not install Map4PDA.
TomTom, Micrsoft Live Search (with Speach), & Google Maps work great. Features set in that order.
PS that GPS test tool works GREAT. Thanks for the heads up.
heelp... what should I do...
Couple days ago TomTom trial and Google Map found gps device nicely and everything seems to be ok. However now when I am trying to start these sw:s they both are saying that they can't find gps device. What should I do about this?
When you start the apps, does the orange light on the right of the internal speaker start flashing?
If it does, then the GPS is actually starting but not getting a fix probably.
If it doesn't then have you mucked around with your "external gps settings" which should be left set to com4 and 4800
Or try this: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Thx for your answers...
when I tried start tomtom it will find gps-receiver & satellites and if immediatly after that I start Google Map sw it find gps also...
It seems that this happens because of delaying to find satellites... and timelimit at GM is too short... any way solve that problem because it is stupid that I have to start every time tomtom first
which GM version are you using? maybe you should try to download the latest version. The version 1.2.0.18 seems to take a longer time before it times out.
I've downloaded version 1.2.0.18 from the webpage http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html.
what version you suggested? And if that is different, where I could get it?
Or is it possible to use some light software first lock satellites and then start GM? if this is possible what "locking sw:s" you suggest?
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
I've downloaded sw called TGPS which I use locked satellites... Now it seems that this is working well...
thx anyway to all.
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Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
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I had to return my phone for warranty repair but I think the latest version of GMM fixes the timeout problem. Last night I downloaded it to a friend's new ATT Tilt. The GPS took about 1.5min to get a fix and GMM didn't show any errors.
Where I can get this TPGS software???
Sorry not mentioned that before...
http://www.turboirc.com/ppc/
Thanks for the info
I downloaded the software, seems working but google maps is not working at all. What tricks have you done to make google maps work???
Zero, nada....
Just first locking gps with TGPS and then (TGPS background) I start GM... that's it.
btw. in the GM I am using automatic configuration for GPS.
If you setup everything correctly, sometimes its the location where you are at. Whenever I'm in my car, it always works. When I'm in a building, chances are, it doesn't work, even by a window.
So don't think its the phone. Test it outside first and then see if it really is the phone.
There is no need to download additional software to kickstart the Kaiser gps. Open the Camera app and switch to GPS Photo mode. Wait for a fix and then exit and start up Google Maps.
I tested the GPS outside and works fine with TOMTOM and TPGS but still google maps give me errors. When I start TPGS The software gets a signal really fast.
But when I switch to google maps I got ( Error: ConnectError [183]) and I still running TPGS in the background...
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
And another thing: This GPS photo where I can get it?? Because I think I dont have it.... my kaiser I bought it in Denmark...
Thanks for the help you people rock....
GPS Photo is enabled by a registry change -- use your favorite registry editor to set HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9\Enable to the DWORD value 1. It'll then show up as a camera mode when you click the left/right arrows in the upper left corner of the camera display.
Thanks waygeek it worked....
Lets see if this google maps thing works with GPS photo
By the way I want to check out the version of google maps that you guys have??
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
Once again thank you all...
No luck with GPS photo our TGPS with Google maps.
The GPS is working perfectly
thomassster : You said that when you drive in your car Google maps works..
Do you use GPRS or 3G to connect to google maps and after that you use the GPS??? or you just use the GPS??
Because What I been experienced is if I'm outside then I use my GPRS connection then the GPS and google maps tell me Where I'm.. But If I dont use any connection and switch to the GPS, google maps die...
Thanks for the help
Can someone please help me?
I have tried these programs:
Tomtom 6
Tomtom 7
GPSdash
BeeLineGPS
WMMiniGPS
GPS tuner
Google maps
I'm using the latest TLR ROM. My GPS setting are default. Com4 Baud rate: 4800.
Here's the problem. The programs seem to find the receiver and seem to find the satellites. (10-15). But I can get absolutely no signal at all. Indoors or outdoors.
I'm getting quite desperate
Have you used any of the tweaks for GPS? I ask as I did but my signal kept dropping - so I turned the tweak off and now it is fine.
I would also suggest using the QuickGPS application to get the Satellite information quicker
I've tried disabling agps. Didn't help. And yes I have used QuickGPS... but no luck.
Any suggestions? : [
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Was it the first try? When I tried first it was 6-8 minutes. Where do you try? In the outdoor?
Have you ever used it?
TB
Do you have correct setting "GPS is managed automatically" ?
When I set to GPS is managed manually, I could not found any way to power on builtin GPS. You have to check box "GPS is managed automatically". I think, it may be point of your problem
I had the exact same issue dude... TomTom 6 didn't work so I installed TomTOm 7... still no signal... even with QuickGPS ran...
Google Maps didn't work either....
I'm not sure what I did in the end... took out the battery, set GPS to 'let windows manage automatically' and ran Quick GPS again.. then run TomTOm 7, go to the 'GPS Status' screen which shows the sat signal charts and stand in a wide open area for 5 mins.. ever since then it has worked fine
all the best.
btw you have to make sure your system date and time are accurate coz otherwise it'll be searching for Sats with a wrong reference to the Sat almanac..
Yes, it's set to manage automatically. I've been trying to get a signal by the window, I left the device just sitting there for more than a half hour and still nothing. I guess I'll have to try longer while being outdoors. Hope it helps... but thanks for your help.
I did that too and it didn't work for me. You have to be outside for the 1st time GPS fix and make sure you run QuickGPS before that. Ohh yeah use TomTom 7 to detect the signal... I find that the most reliable somehow... and be sure it's configured to use the built-in GPS receiver...
I know it feels odd... I nearly sent my unit back for warranty because I was very convinced that the patch antenna was somehow disconnected from the chip. lol.
I had the same issue at one point, due to my fiddling and inadequate hacking attempts!
see if you can track down the HTC GPS tool (it's here on XDA somewhere, but i can't find a link at the mo) and run that.
Chipset should be set to Q7200 (yes i know its actually a 7201A but it works the same) and com port to com 4.
Tap the open port button and you should see the GOS info scrolling through the grey window in the program.
If you see nothing, check the external GPS settings
program tab should be com 4
hardware tab should be non and 4800
last tab should be ticked.
if you still get no GPS info scrolling through the gps tool, then it seems you have the same problem i did. Sadly, i had to hard reset it to get it working again, but it has been perfect ever since.
FYI, this started happening once i had turned aGPS on, and even turning it off did not work for me, so if you have to hard reset, i wouldn't bother ever turning the aGPS on again.
where's the option to turn aGPS on/off?
I just remembered how I resolved my issue... I put a SIM card in I had previously been trying to use it with WiFi (to update QuickGPS) but once I had a SIM in there, the GPS worked. Could it be because I'm now using aGPS? hmm...
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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I also kept lossing the GPS signal with this on every few seconds. So I turned it off for good
did you maybe install voip on your diamond? If so that's your problem there. Hard reset you diamond don't install voip en there you go.
It worked! Thank you all.... I had to sit for half an hour in direct sunlight but it was well worth it... I'm new to gps... do you have to do this with every new gps receiver or is this just another great feature from HTC?
I'm, having the same probelm here.
I'm on my second diamond as the first one (a HK version) had a fault with the internal speeker. On the First phone the internal GPS worked fine with both TOMTOM 6 and Google maps. The initial setup only took about 30 secs.
With the new phone (UK spec) I have tried TT7, TT6 and Google maps. I have also run quiick GPS, hard reset and enabling and disabling assisted GPS using the advanced config tool.
Is there anything else I should try or is this likely to be another hardware issue?
Solution To Gps Problem
if you installed VOIP you should hard reset...gps dead...:-( no other solution.
Help! My Diamond GPS reception is MUCH worse than on my Touch Cruise
Hi,
I've just got a Touch Diamond, and the GPS reception is absolutely appalling. I have hard-reset twice, after which I've done nothing except download a QuickGPS update, but still the signal strength and its ability to connect to satellites is completely inconsistent and unreliable, even outdoors. I CAN get a good signal occasionally, but it's very rare. Most often I get no GPS signals whatsoever, or else I get just a couple of weak greyed-out signal bars in TomTom.
I can lay my Diamond down next to my Touch Cruise (both have identical TomTom 6 software loaded from the same CAB), and the Cruise always launches the app faster, finds the GPS device faster, AND finds adequate satellites faster. The Touch Cruise has a lot of problems, but the one thing it has always been very good at is GPS, and it has NEVER failed to find adequate satellites in TomTom 6, even indoors. It always takes well under a minute to do so, too. It's surely not unreasonable to expect at least the same level of performance from the next generation of device. Why should the Diamond's GPS performance be demonstrably so much worse?!!
Nine times out of ten, my Touch Diamond will simply sit there for an hour or more with the TomTom status bar reading 'Waiting for valid GPS signal...". Quite often when I open the GPS configuration option in TT6, it shows absolutely NO SHRED of a GPS signal whatsoever, even outdoors. (My Diamond and my Cruise have identical GPS settings in both Windows and TomTom, by the way).
The annoying thing is that the Diamond's GPS HAS worked on a couple of rare occasions, and the signal strength has been at least as good as on my Touch Cruise. The Diamond is much worse at holding the signal however, and is totally and utterly unreliable for navigation. It certainly isn't the 'Ultra-sensitive GPS' that HTC's marketing promised - it's nowhere near as good as the GPS on the Cruise, which is the previous generation! The Diamond's GPS DOES work well on very rare occasions - it's just that 95 times out of 100, I'm not getting anything at all. This makes me wonder if it isn't a WM 6.1 compatibility problem or a conflict of some kind. It's almost as if Windows is having difficulty activating/waking the GPS fully. When (and if) it finally gets going, reception is actually very good.
I have also downloaded the HTC GPS Tool as someone here suggested, and it reveals the same results as TomTom - I usually get either no satellites at all, or I get two or three red satellite status bars and a message saying 'Fix not available'. It ALWAYS shows a data stream coming from COM4 though, so there doesn't seem to be any problem actually finding the GPS device. On the rare occasions when I have got a usable GPS signal, the HTC Tool then shows two or three red status bars and three or four green ones as well. During those rare periods, Google Maps can also find anything from three to ten satellites, even indoors. However, the next few times I try the Diamond's GPS, nothing will happen at all - it's suddenly as if all the satellites have fallen out of the sky.
By the way, would QuickGPS make ANY difference on the Diamond? As other have pointed out, aGPS is disabled on the Diamond by default. Aren't QuickGPS and aGPS the same thing? I don't know. But if so, surely the QuickGPS data is useless on the Diamond?
Does anyone have ANY idea how to make GPS on the Diamond work as well as it does on the Touch Cruise? Does anyone know why it doesn't already? Has anyone else done a direct comparison between the Diamond and another HTC device using the same GPS software?
I really like the Diamond, but it's incredibly frustrating that the GPS is unreliable to the point of being unusable. At the moment, I'm having to carry the Cruise for GPS navigation and the Diamond for everything else! Certainly not what I paid for. It should do this stuff straight out of the box. Since it doesn't, I can only assume my device is faulty so if I can't get it fixed by the weekend, I'm returning it for a replacement.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. Sorry for such a long post, but I needed to vent.
Hi there, I'm having the same problem as RH Photography.
All the programs are trying to communicate, but no fix at all. Once I got a fix, but only 4 sattelites, when in my car GPS BT had fixed to 9!
Will try hard reset and install HTC GPS tool an try to fix
Hi all,
Could you please, be kind and post you experience with TD's GPS...
Since I got my TD(4 days) I have not been able to test the GPS at all
I have loaded some soft that could help me here. ( I travel a lot between Korea and Japan). Cannot really use the phone here, but WIFI works great and I thought I would give the GPS a test run.....no luck YET..
TD's own: QuickGPS has downloaded(through WIFI) all the info and it is up to date......But how do I set up the GPS itself???
Phone did not come with preloaded GPS software so,I have loaded following soft on itnone of them would recognize the gps)
i.e. " no GPS found."
1.Google Navigator 3.4
2.GPSvp (http://gpsvp.com)
3.Effica GPS Utilities (http://www.efficasoft.com/gpsutilities/index_wm_ppc.html)
I would really like to test out the GPS here first.I am returning to EU (home) in october or november and I would like to use it there as well.
sorry for the bump
I tried the search...not just this forum but all of XDA.....I cannot seem to find one successful step-by step activation as of yet???
Nobody has internal GPS running on their TD??
Anyone?
Runs perfect and is good quality.
Make sure you let windows manage gps (in external GPS settings):
programport COM4
hardwareport none
and in last tap check the checkbox.
Programs find gps at Com4 at 19xxx baud.
THX RIEL
thank You for you reply.
Will try tommorow morning.
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Runs perfect and is good quality.
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Don't you have a problem with the static navigation? This behavior "drives"
me nearly crazy, because beside of that, the GPS in TD is superb...
On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
My GPS is a pain in the arse, From what i have read its because of the static navigation. So far it says i live in house number 20 when I live in house number 16 and when i'm on route I'm yet to hear a " You have arrived at your destination" because its accuracy is off about 50 metres.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this very soon.
can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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On mine, no programs can access the GPS and the programs will lock and crash the phone when it tries to connect to GPS.
The onlt one that does not lock the phone is TomTom, but it wont connect to GPS.
I've tried combinations of the recommended port stttings, but I still get no GPS.
I have not activated A-GPS, so I don't know if the phone came with this already activated - how would I check this?
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Hey, have you got installed TomTom 7? I'm running TT7 and when I select "internal GPS receiver" it connects perfect. I know this doesn't exist in TT6, but I can also get my GPS running in TT7 if I set it to use a BT receiver on COM4 at 57600 baud. (Assuming you didn't mess around with the standard GPS settings, like HTC meant them to be )
Google maps is using the selection of "use windows settings".
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can someone get me up to speed a bit? what is the 'static navigation' that i keep hearing about..
admittedly, i find sometimes the gps is slightly less accurate at placing my exact location compared to my old Trinity, but otherwise its worked great for me..
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Check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402039&highlight=static+navigation
and this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401833&highlight=static+navigation
hi guys
Same problem here. AGPS is disabled. I have tried Garmin,TomTom, iGo and google. 95% of the time it can not lock onto the sats. Once in a while it will work fine. Last night it picked up the sats in my bedroom on the second story and this morning outside in clear sky it found 4 sats but with very low signal and could not give me my cordinates, gave up after 15 min.
I have tried GPS tools and even that won't lock onto the sats. Data is upto date with quick gps.
So is it the hardware problem or has it to do something with radio? It can't be faulty TD because there are a lots of people with the same problem, and why lots of other users have no problems accessing the sats?
How is your gps working?
hi
great going sofar...thanks to all. We still have no real answers.
Let's keep this one going.
Looks like GPS is an issue with TD.
( Other than GPS...I am loving this sweet phone )
Now I am trying different roms to see if it is related to that. Will let you guys know if find anything.
Strange, on all ROMS my GPS reciever just works perfect.
Almost the best piece of hardware on the device
As I mentioned in Another topic, I use the GPS for TrackMe, at the same time I am navigation via Igo, and at the same time I showoff Google Maps with GPS support.
It functions very well!
Did you get the GPS-Fix downloads? It speeds up a lot.
Yes got the gps fix downloads but still no go. Still have not lost the hope. I hope its not some hardware problem.
I was fed up messing with mine, so I did a hard reset, and its sorted ...... for now!
same as Paulus
I did a hard reset....and it works perfect. No other adjustments done.
Tried the TomTom, Tracky Pro, GPS VP, and the HTC GPS Tool....all work no problem...outside I get a fix within a minute sometimes seconds.
I think one of the quirks that the TD's GPS has is that, when it's in Acquiring Satellites mode it doesn't seem to spit out any sort of status. The first time I noticed that I thought my internal GPS wasn't working, since with my external Holux unit I can see the satellites which the Holux was trying to lock onto.
Whereas with the TD's built in GPS it just snaps from nothing to.. acquired. So it's hard to see wheter it hasn't gotten a signal because it's in a poor area of reception or not. Usually I'll just try and stay still till I can get a lock.
I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.
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I have a cross-country road trip coming up and I'm hoping to use TomTom on my phone as my navigation. Problem is, it only seems to work half the time. Sometimes it takes forever to acquire satellites, sometimes it doesn't at all, and sometimes it pops up fine. I'm always either outside or in my car, too. Are there any special settings I need to mess with? I see there's an "external GPS" setting on the Tilt, but I thought the GPS is built into the phone? I've searched around and found people changing the baud rate and COM number, but these don't seem to work for me. Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.
EDIT: My apologies, it's TomTom 7.
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I use tomtom 7 on my kaiser with no problems at all. You shouldn't need to play with gps settings. so long as quick gps app downloads its stuff every 7 days. It should work fine on standard install. If still problems you could try using a different radio as some are better that others for phone signal and gps locks and battery life. Which radio is best for you will depend on where you are and can be a bit of a black art to find the right one. I am in UK and use 1.70.19.09 and its fine. Check out the radio thread in the rom development section.
All the looking I did for a fix and I never heard of radio settings...will look into that, thanks.
The day I posted this thread, I left work and TomTom worked no problem at all. This morning it worked for 2 minutes then lost the signal the rest of the way.