I could have sworn I saw an app that allows you to make your computer stream to you're phone over the internet. Not using wifi, I mean, like if your running around town, can I connect to my comp and stream to the phone?
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Hi,
Do I need a standalone WiFi network available to cast from my device to the TV or not?
Will I be able to go to friend and cast something from my tablet to his TV even thou he does not have WiFi at home?
Yes, you need a WiFi network and an Internet connection accessible from that.
If you just have your tablet and Chromecast, the Chromecast won't be able to find a network, as your tablet is not a WiFi access point.
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
Best to just bring a small wireless router. There are a number of "travel router" devices that have an internal battery or can be powered via USB.
Connect it to your friend's Internet connection, then off you go.
If the goal is just to show stuff from your tablet on your friend's TV, it might be easier/cheaper to just go hardwired with an HDMI or VGA output adapter for your tablet, if it has that option.
bhiga said:
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
-Lawless said:
ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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Remember that Chromecast still needs a connection to the Internet in order to negotiate the application launch.
Thus the Hotspot. Just might work.
My friend is technologically challenged
He's got no internet at home apart from out mobile phones which we can use for internet at his place...
So, can I use my phone's Wifi hotspot to and use my phone/tablet to stream the web to his TV?
How does the Chrome cast work? Is the tablet interphase only used to set up a link between the dongle and the wifi sender/ router?
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
bhiga said:
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
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Thanx so much for all this data. Not sure whether I wanna try the rooting now. Will wait to see what Google has in store in the next month. It's rooting the dongle easy? Rooting phones comes naturally by now...
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It's really easy with Flashcast but if your Chromecast has been connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes then it has probably auto updated to a non-root able state.
-Lawless said:
ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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I've been doing that for weeks now, if you access 3G (4G) from your device then set it as an access point, and connect to its network with CC. Then all you need is something else to connect to Netflix and the same WiFi access point (a tablet for example or another phone) and you can send it to CC.
The other device is necessary because the Netflix app doesn't show the CC share icon when connected to 3G, whereas on the other device because it's connected to 3G through a mobile WiFi access point it does.
You could use a MiFi instead.
I use it in hotels this way with the CC plugged into the hotel TV (if I'm lucky)
Hey all,
Really weird thing is happening right now with my Chromecast. I started streaming a YouTube playlist of all 82 episodes of Dr. Katz, and when I longpressed home to clear my recent apps, I just clicked the "clear all" button like always. This took the Chromecast icon away from the notification bar and killed my YouTube session, but the video was still streaming. My curiosity piqued, I turned my WiFi off to see what would happen. Lo and behold, the videos are still playing. Anyone have an explanation for this? I'm not complaining, just curious as to how this is even possible.
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This is perfectly normal and how it's supposed work. You are not streaming from your device but rather your device is the remote. Once the link or signal has been sent to the cc you can go as far as pulling the battery on your device and the video will still play.
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This is perfectly normal and how it's supposed work. You are not streaming from your device but rather your device is the remote.
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Exactly this. It's also in the FAQ Part 1, 1.d
45ACP1911 said:
This is perfectly normal and how it's supposed work. You are not streaming from your device but rather your device is the remote. Once the link or signal has been sent to the cc you can go as far as pulling the battery on your device and the video will still play.
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Oh...huh. Well, I sure do feel stupid. I knew CC doesn't "stream" in the traditional sense but for some reason I thought it required the device of origin to always be connected to the same WiFi network as the CC. Anyway, thanks for the heads up guys!
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In the Plex thread we also tested and verified that the Chromecast does not need an internet connection during local streaming from Plex media server on your PC.
It does need an internet connection to phone home to Google when you first connect to the Plex media server on your local network. But after that it will keep on interacting with the controller and playing new selections from the server over the local wifi network even with the internet disconnected. It only needs to connect to the internet again if you disconnect the controller from the Chromecast and then try to reconnect it. At that point the Chromecast goes to black screen and freezes in a wait state if there is no internet connection. But it resumes the local connection seamlessly if you restore the internet connection.
cmb3497 said:
I knew CC doesn't "stream" in the traditional sense but for some reason I thought it required the device of origin to always be connected to the same WiFi network as the CC.
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It's only the case (that the device of origin needs to stay connected) when "forwarding" video from another source and when the source data exists on the origin device. For example, Avia can pull from a DLNA source and push that to Chromecast, and both Avia and RealPlayer Cloud can cast local files to Chromecast.
If Chromecast is using its regular "optimized" playback from a streaming provider (HBO GO, Hulu Plus, YouTube, Viki, Pandora, etc) then the origin device is not needed after the cast starts. That's one of the things I like about Chromecast - you can start playback on one device then move to another device to control playback if you want or need to (for example, your kid decides they really want to play Angry Birds on your phone).
So you can connect a phone that's not on the wifi network to cast videos pics etc. How does it send to the Chromecast?
I thought it had to go through the router or does it stream directly from the phone now?
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791313
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791313
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He is referring to the announcement by Google at Google IO that mentioned being able to stream via proximity without having to be connected to the Local WiFi.
The CCast itself still needs to be connected to a WiFi AP but the phone that is sending to it does not.
It will use location data and show a code on the screen to make a connection over Cell Data.
What they didn't mention is what can be sent to the CCast...
Is it locally stored content?
Is it merely a way to get control and connect to the CCast (For gaming use)
Or does it allow you to do everything you could do if you were connected to the local AP without having to be connected to the local AP...
One thing that is certain is the CCast itself STILL requires having an internet connection and Wireless AP to connect to.
Which the link you posted will help if no other AP is available.
Unfortunately while they announced that feature I don't think it has been implemented or made live yet.
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So you can connect a phone that's not on the wifi network to cast videos pics etc. How does it send to the Chromecast?
I thought it had to go through the router or does it stream directly from the phone now?
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If Chromecast application supports screen casting in your phone then there is a way to cast local media from your phone without external router using phone as WiFi hotspot. Instructions for this can be found from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54976131&postcount=36.
I seem to be at an impasse. I currently use a cellphone from metropcs as my home internet connection. It has unlimited data usage on the phone and 8gb of hot spot data a month. In order to utilize the unlimited data on the phone I watch things like netflix and hbogo on the phone so I would love to be able to mirror my phone to my tv. I was able to set up a chrome cast to connect to the phone directly by connecting the it to the phones hot spot. The only problem is that the chrome cast uses hot spot data instead of the mobile data when I launch netflix on my phone and cast it to the chromcast. It's as if when I cast netflix, instead of the phone running it and mirroring it on the chromecast, the phone hands it off to the chromecast completely and it runs everything there. Is this the case? Is there anyway I can mirror netflix from my phone to my tv while using mobile data?
Thanks in advance.
I would like to do this too. Can you cast to CC using guest mode and still use your unlimited data?
Not possible with netflix cause it won't allow you to screencast which is the only way to send content to CCast without internet.
When you cast netflix to the CCast all it does is load up the Netflix app built into the CCast which needs internet to work.
Connect to the chromecast with your phones hotspot. Go to google home app, options, cast screen/audio. That will mirror your screen to the tv. Go to netflix app and play the video on your phone (without selecting the cast option). Since it's actually playing on your phone it will use regular mobile data. The hotspot is just used to connect to the cc since it's broken without it. Just gotta leave your screen on the whole time so lay it flat and plug it into a charger. Cool thing is that the netflix app stretches the screen automatically so don't worry about it flipping. Hope that helps.
Mirroring works... but... choppy
The mirroring method does work, but it is very choppy on with my phone (Note 8) and TV (LG circa 2015 model). Any suggestions?
So I just set up my chromecast to connect to my Nexus 6p over a wifi-hotspot... this way I can cast the phone screen without having an actual wifi connection.
That said, I'm wondering if I'm still using my cell data if I'm streaming local media? I'm not exactly sure how this setup works so thought I'd ask.
So, for example, if I have a movie on my phone, have the chromecast connected to the phone via a wifi-hotspot, and then cast that movie to a TV (or whatever hdmi display) - am I chewing through my cellular data just as though I was streaming the movie from some other source (e.g. nextflix)?? Or is it just a direct beam (or whatever) and I'm not actually using my cell data?
Hope that question makes sense. Thanks for the info!
Excellent question! I too am looking for an answer.
The data used depends on where the data is coming from....
If the data doesn't come FROM Verizon then it should not count towards your quota.
But any casting requires some data use from the carrier if just to load the player required for the cast.