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aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?
I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino
Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.
I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?
I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)
I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks
Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,
Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.
jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?
I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards
There have been several threads where members have commented that Voice Cmmd 1.6 worked very well on 8125 but not on Kaiser/tilt (or on the 8525)- the problem is poor recognition through the phone mic (not through BT) - VC worked great on the 8125 but not on either the 8525 or the 8529/tilt. admittedly some say they do not have the problem but others do (as do I on both the 8529 and 8525)and I can not find any explanation - it seems like the mic is either too sensitive or not enough - I have tried switching the ACG mic to either enabled or disabled with no clear difference in performance of VC recognition
Sooo..
- does anyone have any ideas ?
- are there any ways to adjust the mic other than just enabling/disabling ACG?
THANKS!
I can add that Voice Commander does not support the Kaiser as well.
?Glitch
?Glitch said:
I can add that Voice Commander does not support the Kaiser as well.
?Glitch
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It works fine on my Att Tilt, VC version 1.6, no worries.
Voice command works just fine on my unlocked TyTN II
greg3d said:
Voice command works just fine on my unlocked TyTN II
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Same here - works great.
Bratag said:
Same here - works great.
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Same experience. In fact, mine works much better than it ever did on my Eten M600 and until recently my Dopod 838 Pro over WM6 (aka HTC Hermes/TyTN). Do that note that I use mine with a BT headset with the TyTN II (Kaiser) and I no longer have to install hacks for it to work when the BT headset button is pressed. Everything works after first install.
I replaced my 8125 with a tilt. I had VC1.6 on both. it works the same on both. both work well. people just like to whine
It works great on my AT&T Tilt as long as I use my headset. When I don't it's pretty crappy, by luckily for me only time I want to use voice command is with my headset.
the people that are having problems should turn on AGC. i dont have to as it's usually quiet around me and I speak loud and slow, without mumbling
I'm wondering if those that are having no problems with Voice command are finding the same one issue I have found. The one feature that does not work for me is the caller Id annoucement in your BT headset when a call comes in before you answer it. The VC features list states this is a feature but it has never worked for me. How about you guys?
Voice Command works MUCH better on tilt / kaiser if you turn "ON"
automatic gain control in phone settings.
DLD
I have to agree. I had AGC off and I had trouble with voice command, I read a thread that said to turn it on and now I do not have any problems.
Strangely, in my limited testing, I got better results with it off.
I have tried VC1.6 both with and without hacks and I am unable to get it working from the BT headset button. Worked fine on my Hermes though (with hacks).
I guess I might need to do a hard reset but then i have to contact Tomtom to get a new ID licence from them
I'm trying out voice command with my s9's and it's reall cool. One problem i have is that if i press the button on my s9's and say help, it wont do anything. But if i say dial or call, that's the only thing it does. So i went to the options and checked announce notifications through device speaker or wired headset only and it did work. I had it on the announce notifications using bt hands free if availabe which didn't work. I tried that patch for announcing calls and it works great. Now i need it to announce stuff on my headset, how can i do this? Also, when i press the button on my headset, it seems that i have to use the phone's mic to make announcements and i want to use the headsets mic.
I just tried something new. I went to the startup directory and launched VC from there and it worked great BUT the sound is coming through the phone and i want it to come through the headset. However, when i press the button on my headset, i can only say dial and talk.
Okay, i just tried it on the main memory. Still a no go. It still uses the phone's mic. Also, when a the mic sign sound comes on, it comes on through the phone, not the headset. So any help would be great.
Problem with AT&T Tilt & Voice Command
Aight, I've read through various post & replies, have not found one to match my problem. I have a new AT&T Tilt, just upgraded from AT&T 8525, before that an AT&T 8125. Both, prior phones I had no problems w/ VC (1.5). Tried installing VC on to the Tilt (8925) and I get the "VC has encountered a problem restart VC & try again" message. Tried restarting, reinstalling same message. Can anyone shine light, please?
You don't specify what ROM you're running but if it's the stock Tilt ROM, you need to move the Cyberon VoiceDial stuff out of the way. Try the instructions here
I don't have S9's but I get announcements throught my JX10 after I followed these instructions.
I have an MDA Vario III branded phone using the HTC ROM 1.56.405.5 and a sony MEX-BT2500 (Bluetooth enabled stereo with A2DP).
http://www.audio66.com/product.asp?id=5616&cat=1&man=6&main=1&userid=&firstsel=cat&variation=
The A2DP works well (except it's a pain to enable/disable it using the WM6 interface!) and I can make outgoing calls fine with the phone paired with the Sony but when incoming calls come in, the ringer is routed to the stereo but when I answer it the voice doesn't and I have to hang up and call the person back.
I paired my work Nokia with the stereo and both incoming and outgoing calls work fine.
I tried the original T-Mobile ROM and still had the same trouble.
I'm assuming (with no knowledge of what I am talking about) that the bluetooth stack on WM6 has some issue with routing incoming calls but I can't find any reference to this problem anywhere else and it would seem to be the kind of problem I'd expect millions of users to have a problem with and that there would be a lot of posts.
Does anyone else use bluetooth handsfree? Does it work properly? Does anyone use a bluetooth stereo and A2DP? Does it work properly? Does anyone know if there's a fix?
Thanks for the info in advance...
mine works Ok with my BT2500 although sometimes it needs to be re-paired
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Can you tell me what ROM version you have and what model your phone is, radio version, installed programs etc? so I can try changing things.
If you hae a2dp music being streamed and a call comes in does it still work?
ROM is UK Vodafone out-of-the box original (v1615 = Tytn II) 1.56.161.4
Radio is 1.27.12.11
Have Seuth255's A2DPFix from the Hermes forums (prevents skipping)
MS Voice Command V1.6 (i have a SE BT headset too)
Remainder are general apps, gps etc.
haven't tried a call when music is streaming. will do later and let you know
Works for me too, with the original HTC ROM.
Everything is working fine here. I have a MEX-BT2507X, and there's some random 0.2sec cut every 15mins of playtime, but that's not a problem.
Have you used the quickfix from HTC?
jym04 said:
Everything is working fine here. I have a MEX-BT2507X, and there's some random 0.2sec cut every 15mins of playtime, but that's not a problem.
Have you used the quickfix from HTC?
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I didn't know about the HTC Quickfix. I've just downloaded it and installed but haven't got round to leaving the PC to test it yet. I'll give it a go later and post back.
Fingers crossed...
Audio not working
My audio is not playing through the car speakers with the BT-2500. I had it professionally installed, but was running late to class so I didn´t fully test it until I got home a few hours ago.
I can control the tracks and play/pause, accept/end calls, and the dash microphone works, but my audio is not being pushed and played for some some reason (does work for CD, and Radio). I tried repairing numerous times, resets, and different programs, but no luck... but audio push worked great on a handsfree kit.
any ideas are greatly appreciate... I will take this back to the shop tomorrow, but I would like to know if anybody else experienced this and how they fixed it.
Thanks!! =)
btw, I use stock AT&T rom
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I didn't know about the HTC Quickfix. I've just downloaded it and installed but haven't got round to leaving the PC to test it yet. I'll give it a go later and post back.
Fingers crossed...
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...much, much later...
I finally got round to trying it out and even with the quickfix I still have the same problem. My mate also has a Kaiser so I borrowed that (UK O2 ROM I think) and that doesn't work either.
Most odd. maybe I'll ring Sony.
I have the same problem with my Jabra 620s. Maybe somethings wrong with the headset itself?
Can you let me know ur ROM, radio versions so I can see if we have anything the same.
A brief survey to sastisfy my own curiosity:
How often do you guys use these apps?
If so, do you find them functional?
Do you use Bluetooth Audio or stick it out with the speaker?
Do you use them on 3G, Wifi only, or even Edge?
For me qaulity is rubbish on both using wi-fi so I don't bother anymore
I agree, Skype sounded like poo over wi-fi, and fring doesn't even open on my phone anymore.
On HTC Herald, using Skype, the call quality was crap because first, I was with Tmobile and edge was too slow. I got the kasier tytn II, and switched to at&t. Skype call quailty was alittler better now with their 3g and wifi. But then I begain to learn about different radios frequencies and how they can significantly increase/improve your reception. My skype stutters very little and the call quality is very good over 3g.
I don't use it often (twice a week maybe) I mainly use it to save my (anytime) minutes during the day and it comes in handy with I want to make international phone calls. I may just upgrade to the $99/month (Unlimited calling) plan
But in a nutshell, I believe you can improve your Skype (or Fring) call quality by experimenting with different radios.
Bluetooth and skype? Something I don't recommend, but I prefer the wired head set with Skype.
Hope this helps
Looks like that fring was not prepared that WM 6.1 will appear. Everyone who has this version of WM is not able to use fring now. used to have fring over wife - quaility was fine. skype is heavy memmory eater so only tested it nothing else
I tried using 3G but the quality was crap.
Wifi works fine for me - I use Skype quite often at home.
I find that using the head set which came with my TyTN II offers far superior call quality than the speaker.
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Looks like that fring was not prepared that WM 6.1 will appear. Everyone who has this version of WM is not able to use fring now. used to have fring over wife - quaility was fine. skype is heavy memmory eater so only tested it nothing else
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Did she Mind, your wife? And I'm not sure I totally understand your euphemism.
Just installed Skype on my Tilt. All went well, but it seems to only want to be on speakerphone. Also, my call to echo shows no microphone present. I looked for settings to change audio prefs and could not find any. Any suggestions?
I use Skype all the time for overseas calls on both my PC and Kaiser.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Non Palmsms version and the call quality is fine.
Using Radio 1.64.08.21
So, can I use Skype to make outgoing calls to landlines and other non-skype cell phones? Can I use it to get incoming calls of the same nature?
I read somewhere that Skype and any/all other program will ONLY use the phone speaker. It seems that the only funtions that will use the ear speaker is the phone program. Unfortunately my spearkerphone on my ATT Tilt does not function well or at all. Apparently this seems to be a very common problem with the Tilt... I suppose I can still use Skype for text chatting.
Is this true? I was hoping I wouldn't have to sign up for any minutes with ATT if I had Skype
bigboyhf said:
I read somewhere that Skype and any/all other program will ONLY use the phone speaker. It seems that the only funtions that will use the ear speaker is the phone program. Unfortunately my spearkerphone on my ATT Tilt does not function well or at all. Apparently this seems to be a very common problem with the Tilt... I suppose I can still use Skype for text chatting.
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If you plug in the headset that came with your phone, Skype (Windows Mobile?) will use that instead. Call quality is much better for me using the headset.
I rebooted my router and got Skype to hear me. The quality is not so good with the speakerphone. Unfortunately the Tilt doesn't have a standard wired headset that I know of. I thought maybe the bluetooth headset might work, but it does not connect to Skype at all. It just invokes the voice command dialer...
^It doesn't? The Wing includes one!
I think there is a jack for a stereo headset but not sure which one is compatible... Will have to do some research.
On my kaiser, dutty's 6.1 ROM, fring works better than skype... call quality, connection timings, all are good.. maybe due to HSDPA..
I'm using Skype over HSDPA and WiFi and quite satisfy with it, voice clarity is good (using Sony 970 Bluetooth), good call handling, just don't try to use it over Edge
bigboyhf said:
I rebooted my router and got Skype to hear me. The quality is not so good with the speakerphone. Unfortunately the Tilt doesn't have a standard wired headset that I know of. I thought maybe the bluetooth headset might work, but it does not connect to Skype at all. It just invokes the voice command dialer...
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you need to get a headset that does both handsfree and headset profiles. I have the lubix stereo headphones and it works great both as wireless headphones and handsfree.
For the person thinking about just going with skype as voice, your limited to where you have good 3G connection.
arunprakashr said:
On my kaiser, dutty's 6.1 ROM, fring works better than skype... call quality, connection timings, all are good.. maybe due to HSDPA..
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you got fring to work on WM 6.1. what ver r u using?