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I've been having some issues with my Tilt and my car's hands free setup (see: http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=105410). The problems seems to lie with the Microsoft bluetooth stack on WM 6.1. HTC is no help with this issue so I want to take matters into my own hands. Is there a way to replace the default Microsoft bluetooth stack with another, more reliable compatible stack from a reliable company (not Microsoft or HTC)? I don't want to get rid of my Tilt, but I need it to work right in my car. I'm thinking of staying away from purchasing WM 6.1 smartphones because of this.
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Wow, no one has answered my post here, at ATT, at Kenwood, or on tiltsite. HTC answered only to tell me that compatibility doesn't necessarily mean that it would work (bs). This is very frustrating. I've read post all over xda developers and the rest of the internet about tilt bluetooth problems yet no one has an answer. I've completely giving up on trying to get bluetooth to work right with any of my devices (car, computer, etc). I can't imagine buying another HTC product. Good luck to everyone else out there struggling to get bluetooth to work on their tilt while the motorola, blackberry, lg, samsung, and other phone users watch with amazement and pity. Keep fighting the good fight. Hopefully one of you will win. I've completely lost!
That's a pretty strange story you've got there, because I have zero problems with my Tilt and bluetooth pairing to all manners of devices... on a regular basis, I connect my Tilt to my car's Pioneer stereo deck, to my laptop and desktop, and to my wireless headphones and I've had little to no difficulty. Actually, the easiest pairings so far have been between my Tilt and Pioneer Stereo Deck... At least for basic features - in order for the phone book entries to show on the deck's LCD display it required an upgrade from WinMo 6.0 to 6.1 and then in the deck itself I have to manually download the contact book. But that's the only troublesome thing I have to do, which is mostly an advanced feature any way that I could live (but prefer not to) without.
Sucks that you're having problems, all I can suggest is make sure you're doing everything properly... I've had no problems I couldn't overcome with my Tilt and bluetooth capable devices, especially since Windows Mobile 6.1 came out.
Hi,
I'm having the same problems, also when disconnecting from the BT carstereo after a phonecall, the device freezes up.
Anybody found a solution for this problem yet ?
Ny the way, my car stereo is a JVC KD-BT1
GRTZ,
Niels
@k4ever: Have you checked out this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
From what I can tell, they've ported the Widcomm BT stack to the Hermes and TyTN, so I imagine it's not far off from the Kaiser/TyTN-II, if it doesn't already work (my BT is working fine, so I'm not too likely to mes with my phone to find out-- but I hope this helps!)
-Weasel5i2
EDIT: Here's a CAB from the newer threads of the above post:
http://rs38.rapidshare.com/files/30721150/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB
Thanks
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply.
@Weasel5i2
I tried the Widcomm stack when I used the stock ATT rom. It completely disabled bluetooth on the Tilt. I will try it with the PDA Corner rom I'm currently using (the best!) after the holiday weekend.
Thanks again for the replies!
k4ever said:
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply....
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I am experiencing Bluetooth connection issues between the Tytn2 and a kenwood DNX8220BT As far as I've heard from kenwood the Tytn2 is only supported with the older version of Windows Mobile (6.0)
I've also tried the Kenwood with my wife's Touch Diamond (Also HTC but other CPU, don't know about the BT radio though) but that one is also experiencing trouble. I didn't get any indication when they would have a new firmware version ready.
You did indicate that you also tried another WM phone, which version of WM does that one operate on?
@Mautje
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.
widcomm stack a no-go
I tried the Widcomm stack. It did not work at all. Kept getting error that "there was not enough memory to run, please reset device" or something to that nature. Could not uninstall so I had to re-flash my ROM. Back to square one.
k4ever said:
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.
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To bad. I was also looking into the other roms on this forum but it wil probably not work..
Kenwood is reporting that it should work with the rom version mentioned in the compatibility sheet.
In the sheet for version 1.43 firmware there is no mention at all of a rom version just the Tytn2.. I guess that's the WM 6.0 version
Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
nemocool said:
Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
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The Snapdragon chip has FM in it.
But the Liquid doesn't have FM, dunno if it's disabled or took out (hardware)
So what I read is not a fantasy, I hope someone develops a utility that allows us to use it!
I think its the bluetooth chip that have FM receiver, not the CPU.
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608340
If Bluetooth chip is same then Liquid should have radio and since F1 has radio and F1 and Liquid hardware are pretty much the same, I think there is big possibility Liquid to have radio, which is disabled.
Also I have seen in a dump from HTC Espresso a radio application.
Look at this:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325
I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
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I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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It occurs to me that we are experiencing growth Andorid day to day, who knows if in a not too distant future we will also see an application that runs the FM receiver
Exactly, giving the limited resources Acer has to making Android phones (probably just ramping up), they decided to skip on developing software drivers for the FM radio since they figured most people will use 3G streaming. but I like FM radio since it uses way less power and for those who don't have a data plan to burn through. Hopefully someone is able to write software drivers for the FM radio.
Some notes on this subject:
1.Acer has little to nothing to do to get the FM working, it's broadcom who makes the bluetooth (and thus FM) driver. What Acer has to do is only a GUI, which isn't hard to do
2.Nexus One has the same chip (ok, not the same, but they share the same driver), and doesn't have FM enabled either, that makes me think their might be some problem somewhere. (but the previous posts stating that using FM on a recent smartphone is unusual seems like a good guess.)
3.I've seen linux FM drivers for BCM4325, in Samsung Galaxy ROM (It's the btld daemon)
The thing is that this driver is fully closed source and doesn't use the bluez stack (linux bluetooth stuff), that's perhaps the reason why Acer and Google decided not to use it.
Anyway these chips are used by N1, Samsung Galaxy (I7500), iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro2, well, all brand new shiny phones, so it's likely someone of these developers will get something at some point
Does have milestone same chip?
Any news on radio fm recevier on liquid??
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Does have milestone same chip?
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No, milestone have TI wl1271, we have Broadcom bcm4325
an fm radio would rock my world...any news
do you say FM radio!!!!!
If yes, is it possible somehow to enable it....because I realize games,mp3 and chatting doesn't mean entertainment for me on the road.....
I've heard bradcomm released data sheets for their liquid bluetooth chip...
any news on this topic, or fm is just too simple ?
and what about terrestrial digital radio (sorry, french..) ?
can it be supported or received at all by our phones ?
may be it need new hardware ?
well, i'm glad to wake up this thread, as i've got some good news
i'm not able to use it myself, so i'll wait for others or the release of the thing in question.
No more waiting, here it is : fm is coming to our liquids
"://android.modaco.com/content/acer-liquid-liquid-modaco-com/320945/radio-fm-for-acer-liquid-finally/"
I am wondering if there has been any improvements to bluetooth on any of the roms out there. I know there has been some threads regarding the issues with bluetooth since 2.1 and I personally am having issues with my phone staying synced to my car (worked perfect in 1.5). Also does anyone know if froyo get an update to address bluetooth bugs? Thanks.
Bluetooth in 2.1 has been hit or miss depending on the brand you are trying to attach to. I have bluetooth on my computer and can use it fine with my phone. Audio works fine and it stays connected. It could be because I have froyo. IDK.
BTW-This should be in Q&A
BlueTooth does seem to be a little less picky in FroYo.
Hummm maybe its time to try froyo and see if it fixes my issues
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Which features of a ROM Kernel or Modem have the most influence on BT function. I recently purchased a Kenwood X994 for the car and the Captivate seems to have to be "connected" every time. Sometimes it loads the phone book, other times not. I have never been asked for a PIN code when pairing. Even after flashing a new ROM and reinitialization the Kenwood. It does work but even with th Gamin BT the connections were automatic.
I think the Developers might have an idea what influences the BT stack and if any ROM/Kernel/Modem is better in that regard.
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bump - I have the same concerns. Can't seem to find consistent bluetooth connection that was better than stock with lots of trying different roms with different modems and am totally confused on what directly affects the bluetooth connection
tbong777 said:
Which features of a ROM Kernel or Modem have the most influence on BT function. I recently purchased a Kenwood X994 for the car and the Captivate seems to have to be "connected" every time. Sometimes it loads the phone book, other times not. I have never been asked for a PIN code when pairing. Even after flashing a new ROM and reinitialization the Kenwood. It does work but even with th Gamin BT the connections were automatic.
I think the Developers might have an idea what influences the BT stack and if any ROM/Kernel/Modem is better in that regard.
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I am not trying to sell my ROM to you as I don't and am not here to make any money but I have not found a device that Phoenix Ultimate can not connect to. Just a thought for you.
Unless your making your own kernel thats special , their is some devices that it will have trouble connecting to, specifically certain car Bluetooth sets. this was a problem with every kernel I tried, and other users reported this also. I don't think it has anything to do at all with the Rom anyway,(it could, I didnt look into it too much), it think its an issue with kernels built from I9000 source.
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I am not trying to sell my ROM to you as I don't and am not here to make any money but I have not found a device that Phoenix Ultimate can not connect to. Just a thought for you.
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Adam I have used (and am currenty trying out Phoenix Ultimate) and really find you ROMS useful, The BT works fine but the issue is I have to "connect" the phone even though it has been paired
The Kenwood X994 uses Parrot BT system which is supposed to be the best (which is why I chose the Kenwood LOL), I am just wondering why the device cannot auto connect when I get in the car as it did with the Garmin and the Honda. IS there a task I can set up using task manager?
Maybe its the Kenwood. But searches in that arena show no ill effect except with the Captivate and some Droids. IPhone is flawlwess with that system (wouldn't you know it) as are HTC phones it appears. I really hate having to select a phone based on BT in the car.
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Unless your making your own kernel thats special , their is some devices that it will have trouble connecting to, specifically certain car Bluetooth sets. this was a problem with every kernel I tried, and other users reported this also. I don't think it has anything to do at all with the Rom anyway,(it could, I didnt look into it too much), it think its an issue with kernels built from I9000 source.
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Which I thought as well so I flashed Cognition 4.2 and had the same issue...and decided to try Phoenix (GPS was terrible on Cog) Well I guess until I get another phone brand I will have to just make sure I connect the already paired devices. Although iPhone doesn't interest me...maybe HTC,
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Hi there!!!
First of all I have to thank all people here spending their time to develop a good, eyecandy and very nice builds in general.
As I do not have any developer experience, (at leest not for Android platform), I'm forced to ask here for a good FM radio, (not internet stream, but real FM radio), application that will work with newer builds.
I've tried a radio applet that was developed, (or ripped, I do not know weather is one or the other), by some of members of this forum and there are some problems with this app, (last problem is that id does not work with Android 2.3.4, (running on core 2.6.32.15 tytung ....).
- It has some, (at leest for me), annoying bug of turning on bluetooth each time it starts, (personally I cannot see usage of this feature if there is need of headphone plugged in as antenna),
- other is that it has lot of some bacground noise wich is not pink or white noise so tipical for FM,
- and last but not leest is that it has no rds feature plugged in.
Even if I do not have personal experience, I might be able to give a help to other memebers willing to deal with these problems, (to make it work as best it is possible).
Thanks to all spending time to read this post, replying to me and at most offering a help on this issue .
(for moderators of the forum)
It would be nice to make this thread as sticky at leest until this issue is solved, (thatwise we could refeer easier to this thread).
Spirit FM is worth a look. Supports rds features and works on some newer builds. Unfortunately some devices don't get audio but the dev has supplied a workaround that might work depending on your hardware. It works on my hd2 running nexus hd2 2.7 (gb2.3.4) with the patch applied.
I tried Spirit FM, but without success.
Please give link to this patch.