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Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
LiquidSolstice said:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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They all operate on HTC's framework ... HTC completely reconfigures the framework to run Sense over Android. As a result, Sense will not run with the current Froyo's AOSP framework. However, if there is a port of a Sense 2.2 rom (say, from the Desire or Aria) down the road, you will find what you are looking for. But not until then, sadly.
LiquidSolstice said:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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Which applications are you wanting then ? I am curious about what your asking..that's all....I switched over to the RC1 build and have been going back and forth with deciding which look and feel I prefer. The stock sense phone application on my Hero,while nice, doesn't really impress me at all,not since I can modify my phone to use what programs I need now. This build allows me to have almost the same applications as any stock Froyo phone..note I said almost..The weather application that is loaded with this build is fantastic,and is 100x more responsive now than it ever was before.Same for the stock browser,and while it may not have all of the features say Dolphin has it doesn't have all the bloat neither so it runs faster. The stock flip clock to me is clumsy and...well..boring as hell and besides it takes up too much on my screen.
So..if you don't mind me asking..what applications are you really wanting from it that you can't live without that there isn't a good if not better alternative right now ? Like I said..I'm just curious..
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LiquidSolstice said:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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Nothing sense (apps or widgets) will work with an AOSP rom, as the framework for the HTC apps aren't there.
Well, to be honest...I currently have ALL the same widgets working on my 2.2 Hero that I did when I was running 2.1 w/ Sense....
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Well, to be honest...I currently have ALL the same widgets working on my 2.2 Hero that I did when I was running 2.1 w/ Sense....
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But see, I don't care about widgets. Launcher Pro Plus has all the widgets I need, and Fancy Widget suffices for my clock.
Anyways, thanks for the clarification everyone, I shoulda guessed that the apps were included in the locked framework, or someone would have ported it by now.
I just use the clock on the top rite of the notification bar when I need to cheak the weather there are many options out there for me to choose from.Im fine without sense. AOSP Is all I think ill ever need.
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I just use the clock on the top rite of the notification bar when I need to cheak the weather there are many options out there for me to choose from.Im fine without sense. AOSP Is all I think ill ever need.
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I.....don't care about the widgets (which I've said like 7 times now ) I care about the applications, specifically. The Sense clock app destroys the AOSP clock app in every single way possible. Things like that.
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Which applications are you wanting then ? I am curious about what your asking..that's all....I switched over to the RC1 build and have been going back and forth with deciding which look and feel I prefer. The stock sense phone application on my Hero,while nice, doesn't really impress me at all,not since I can modify my phone to use what programs I need now. This build allows me to have almost the same applications as any stock Froyo phone..note I said almost..The weather application that is loaded with this build is fantastic,and is 100x more responsive now than it ever was before.Same for the stock browser,and while it may not have all of the features say Dolphin has it doesn't have all the bloat neither so it runs faster. The stock flip clock to me is clumsy and...well..boring as hell and besides it takes up too much on my screen.
So..if you don't mind me asking..what applications are you really wanting from it that you can't live without that there isn't a good if not better alternative right now ? Like I said..I'm just curious..
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The clock application itself. It looks and functions perfectly. The AOSP Clock app is pretty paltry (and, forgive me, downright ugly), as is the calender app and the weather app. Oh, and I suppose Friendstream as well, seeing as that app works better for my purposes than even the official Facebook app.
I really liked the Sense Homescreen clock with the animated weather. I thought I would miss it after flashing CM6. I installed Beautiful Widgets recently and it does everything the Sense Homescreen clock did and more. It's more customizable with skins, too.
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I really liked the Sense Homescreen clock with the animated weather. I thought I would miss it after flashing CM6. I installed Beautiful Widgets recently and it does everything the Sense Homescreen clock did and more. It's more customizable with skins, too.
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Right, which is why I said apps, not widgets.
Hello!
I've updated my phone to the official JP6-ROM from Kies. I like it, it's quite fast and feels better in actual use than the stock 2.1 I had when I bought it.
But, as with 2.1, TouchWiz is sooooo laggy. I'm glad they've added a 'glass' dock background to the homescreen for your basic icons, but it seems as if the lag / animations have remained unchanged (possibly gotten even worse).
Is there any way to fix this? Searched the forums but didn't find anything.
I use LauncherPro now, but if it wasn't for the lag, I would use TouchWiz Pro because I actually like its look.
Thanks in advance!
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If there isn't any fix available, would someone be interested in optimizing it for JP6?
First I thought the same. Ohhh feels fast. But when you have many programms from the market and look in the helicopterview... omg...
Didn´t they test it with some more apps? I´m work with launcher pro. Look at it. It is better! You have many options to play with. In the paying version you have also some nice widgets. Give it a try.
I have 6 pages of apps. If I slide fast between pages it acts so laggy.. (this issue is not present in eclair). Also pinch to zoom out in app drawer it's extremly laggy.
Tried Laucher Pro (was a fan of this app before)... yeah, it's faster. But I like more the touch wiz launcher..
Problem is that when i use the latest version of LauncherPro after a few hours of usage i get.a really stupid but very sad bug. My notification bar won t get down when I drag it. Only menu > notifications. Darn stupi.
On 2.1 launcher pro was the only launcher i used. Ao nice so fast, and niw so buggy. Sh1t
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The lag seen with ADW is really starting to annoy me. At first I was ultra happy with the phone, but then some of my friends with iphone 4s pointed out how choppy the switching of homescreens was on the N1 along with the stutter seen on the app drawer. I have googled everything and cant find a fix. I already tried doing the recomended settings from the link below, but there is still lag. Will switching to launcher pro fix my issues? I am hesitant to switch because I love that ADW has the look of the stock froyo launcher, is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2700-adw-vs-launcher-pro-for-cm6/page__view__findpost__p__25057
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
Jack_R1 said:
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
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Haha so true, ignorance is great. Yea i know alot of people had similar questions, but all the threads i found were not for N1s and they were pretty old, figured out some genius must have done something about it since just about everything else has been done on these xda forums. I just hate seeing wasted potential. The snapdragon and 512mb ram is more than enough horsepower to get simple smooth scrolling down. Just wish there was some type of gpu acceleration support.
By the way how do you turn off the wifi automatically when you leave home? I rely on the powercontrol widget.
I had a similar point from an iPhone user, I barely noticed it - and then I pointed out I was running a custom launcher (launcher pro) with a TON of widgets and animated wallpaper. Since then an update has made it silky smooth.
There are a few themes in launcher pro, default froyo is one - I use wide froyo which gives me:
phone-contacts-app-drawer-sms-browser
buttons.
Gingerbread should help in this department, or so they say. Currently the best the launchers can do still has a hiccup or two from time to time. Personally, I don't even notice it, using LauncherPro, as the poster above me, with all 7 screens full of icons and widgets, and Starfield wallpaper.
Locale. It's a great concept app. I used it, but stopped - now I just keep BT and WiFi constantly on (BT almost doesn't drain battery - usually less than 2% of the power - and WiFi is present at home and at work, so I turn it off only when the phone is expected to last long in places where no WiFi is found). Since I don't have other uses - like turning down the volume automatically in specific places, etc - I stopped using it.
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... along with the stutter seen on the app drawer.
is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
adambenjamin said:
Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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You can easily switch back. A lot of people seems to be experiencing a little lag with adw in the latest CM version. Launcher pro doesn't have this issue.
I'm not sure about Adw running in the background, but you can easily uninstall it using titanium backup.
I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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I bought my nexus with cm6 already installed, and still havent bothered updating to the newest 6.1 version. Mainly im just waiting till the end of the month. Dont want to mess anything up and i need my phone to be fully functional till then. All i know is that in the sd card I saw a clockworkmod file, so im assuming thats the backup. I will go into installing custom roms probably when gingerbread is released. I might try installing launcher pro again and uninstalling adw fully and see if that fixes the lag. I like ADW and just wish the app scrolling was a little more smooth.
**** I just found out that my ADW version was 1.0.1, and there have many updates since then. I found a 1.2.0 version and will test that out. http://code.google.com/p/adw-launcher-android/downloads/list
Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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HTCinToronto said:
Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Couldn't agree more I used to juggle roms and now I use miuimod with lpp with the screen cache turned off and if I have to compete against a iPhone showdown then I put my min CPU at 384 and it should be as smooth if not smoother. n1 is great for tinkering
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also turning off the transparency in the drawer should help improve smoothness
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
smachine said:
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
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A lot of it depends on the specific wallpaper in question. Slower, more subtle animations tend to behave better (and use less battery) than some of the more intense ones. I recommend one called Substrate - it slowly evolves and changes, but keeps the homescreen transitions very smooth and snappy.
I'm currently running one called "better matrix" or something similar that is very eye catching but doesn't bog things down too much.
any reason why i get Such a terrible redraw on the stock launcher? i am rooted, debloated and running hte V6 script (does it with it installed and not installed) and i get bad redraw probs...any fixes? with ADW i get nothing..but i kinda like moto lancher...
thanks!!
I believe it's to do with how much memory is allocated for the launcher and whether its set to stay resident.
I'm sure it can be manipulated in the framework somewhere probably systemui.
-smc
i just made ADW look almost excatley like the blur launcher so im ok with that..and it runs so much better..i just wish i could find the EXCATE look alike dock for adw..
Better off trying to hack the framework and work it out from there, i also prefer the stock launcher cos it's refereshingly different enough to most other launchers i've used and i've used them all including- Sony Arc, Samsung Galaxy S 2 and optimus 2x/3D launchers.
Just wish the stock launcher had an option for folders like the Arc, very handy.
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dvigue said:
any reason why i get Such a terrible redraw on the stock launcher? i am rooted, debloated and running hte V6 script (does it with it installed and not installed) and i get bad redraw probs...any fixes? with ADW i get nothing..but i kinda like moto lancher...
thanks!!
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Here's a fix: Move apps from Media Area to Phone if any. Tell me if this helps.
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That could speed things up.
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there was only one app (game time) on the Media Area and no it didn't do anything. The thing is that I'm using Launcher Pro and it is still VERY SLOW to load everything up EVERY TIME I go back to the homescreen. This phone is acting slower than my D2GG
the new blur launcher is very memory hungry. It constantly gets killed (when launching another memory intensive app), then when you get back to home (or even want to see running apps) the horrible redraw/delay happens. Especially if you have widgets on the home screen and stuff like beautiful weather, expect horrible performance out of it. I can't understand why Motorola released the phone with 512MB RAM only...
The only true way to fix this is to go ADW or Launcher Pro (or other lightweight launcher). I was long time ADW fan but it feels LauncherPro behaves better on our phones. Using it now, screen redraw is minimal if not non-existent. Happy now. (not as happy if phone had 1G RAM )
using launcher pro, when I unlock the home screen sometimes it is drawn black where my shortcuts should be and the bottom shortcut bar is displayed fine
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That's been a bug with launcher pro for a looooooong time. Just slide your finger across the screen and everything will appear just fine.
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While I like ADW Launcher and the default CyanogenMod interface, I've been starting to explore some of the other launchers out there. The "GO Launcher" series of widgets are very attractive and generally well done. So, I installed the launcher, weather, and task manager widget.
I have to say that while the widgets look great, they take longer to load than what I'm used to. I find CM7 popping up with a message saying the apps are taking too long to load, giving me the option to force close or wait. Usually if I click "wait", the screens finish loading shortly afterward. Regardless, even after a fresh boot, when I use the home screen, other pages, and apps, I'm finding my whole interface rather sluggish. I've got a 32Gb class 6 SD card installed with apps loaded to it by default as well. What's really most annoying is that when first bringing up the home screen, it takes at least 15 seconds for the Weather EX widget to load the time and basic weather... from cache! I have mobile data turned off by default.
Conversely, I find the ADW Launcher much more responsive. On occasion it does lag and result in a prompt asking to force close or wait, but not nearly as much as with GO Launcher. I wonder if the GO widgets are really meant for phones with more powerful processors... and that despite being compatible with ROMs ported for the HTC Hero, it's simply not worthwhile to try utilizing them.
Anyway, I'm just curious if anyone has experienced this sluggish performance on their HTC Hero and what launcher you'd recommend with similar graphical refinement but reasonable performance. Thanks!
I'm starting to find that GO Launcher is very sluggish right after a cold boot... and that it takes a while before it "settles in". When awakened from sleep, it'll work OK, at least for the most part. The lag I was experiencing before was probably some overhead or memory consumption left over from the initial installation.
Anyway, hopefully the reasonable performance won't be a fluke and will continue to work well. The GO Launcher offers a nice suite of widgets that conserve space pretty well. I especially like how you don't have to drag icons to a trash bar, that a little pop-up will give you several options adjacent to the icon (including trash).
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I'm starting to find that GO Launcher is very sluggish right after a cold boot... and that it takes a while before it "settles in". When awakened from sleep, it'll work OK, at least for the most part. The lag I was experiencing before was probably some overhead or memory consumption left over from the initial installation.
Anyway, hopefully the reasonable performance won't be a fluke and will continue to work well. The GO Launcher offers a nice suite of widgets that conheserve space pretty well. I especially like how you don't have to drag icons to a trash bar, that a little pop-up will give
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jamstewonline said:
I use adw ex. Find it quite fast. Got it for free. Pm me if you want to know how to get it for free too.
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That's piracy. We don't allow that here.
Use Apex or Nova launcher. It's simple and i've gotten virtually no lag on it. It's bland so that's why it's fast. The hero can't really handle anything else with ease. Two of the reasons its sluggish as hell is because of the processor and the lack of ram. There's not really any cure expect getting a better phone, which you probably know.
When running a CM7 based rom I have always found Zeam to be the lightest and quickest launcher. I have run ADW EX as well and loved it for its customization features like changing the app icons and such but Zeam is just hands down fastest launcher on my Hero. ADW was not far behind either. I did try GoLauncher once and it seemed really sluggish on my hero for some reason.
I still have my Hero (Sure I always will) and still mess around with it and right now I am currently using Zeam with the rom in my sig and it is crazy fast! Like a brand new phone all over again.
cytherian said:
While I like ADW Launcher and the default CyanogenMod interface, I've been starting to explore some of the other launchers out there. The "GO Launcher" series of widgets are very attractive and generally well done. So, I installed the launcher, weather, and task manager widget.
I have to say that while the widgets look great, they take longer to load than what I'm used to. I find CM7 popping up with a message saying the apps are taking too long to load, giving me the option to force close or wait. Usually if I click "wait", the screens finish loading shortly afterward. Regardless, even after a fresh boot, when I use the home screen, other pages, and apps, I'm finding my whole interface rather sluggish. I've got a 32Gb class 6 SD card installed with apps loaded to it by default as well. What's really most annoying is that when first bringing up the home screen, it takes at least 15 seconds for the Weather EX widget to load the time and basic weather... from cache! I have mobile data turned off by default.
Conversely, I find the ADW Launcher much more responsive. On occasion it does lag and result in a prompt asking to force close or wait, but not nearly as much as with GO Launcher. I wonder if the GO widgets are really meant for phones with more powerful processors... and that despite being compatible with ROMs ported for the HTC Hero, it's simply not worthwhile to try utilizing them.
Anyway, I'm just curious if anyone has experienced this sluggish performance on their HTC Hero and what launcher you'd recommend with similar graphical refinement but reasonable performance. Thanks!
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Been using all of Go products since v1.5 or something. I also been running there beta's on 1 of my phones. 3.16 or .17 was released in early Oct. Well my Go keyboard and Go locker crashed, had written them asap and within 24 hours there was a new version, and those issue's were fixed. Guess I'm saying these DEV's as most all DEV's are good about keeping there products fresh.
If you're looking for a smooth and sleek launcher I'd go for LauncherPRO. It's unmaintained and not very feature-rich but it's incredibly smooth and stable. Wish it were open source.
FYI, I have gone with Zeam and I'm super happy. Very nicely done launcher, lean and efficient with hardly any lag.